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	Toll-free on numbers 800-941 Sean.
	If you want to be a part of the program, I know we probably have spent an inordinate amount of time talking about the radical Marxist Mamdanies, Kami Mamdanny, whichever you prefer.
	But there are two other important races that will be taking place in November.
	And one, I think that we made a mistake going back four years ago.
	I think I think Phil Murphy could have been defeated had we paid attention to it.
	And while the polls at the time didn't show that it was close, it ended up being, you know, a very, very close race in New Jersey.
	New Jersey does have a history of electing Republican governors.
	Tom Kane would be one.
	Christy Todd Whitman would be one.
	Uh Chris Christie would be one.
	And it just has a streak within it that you know what, when people get sick and tired of Democratic rule and failure in New Jersey, there is an opportunity for them to change course, and that's the hope of Jack uh Chitterelli is what who's the gubernatorial candidate, and here's his latest ad.
	We all know it.
	New Jersey's a mess.
	And all Mike Sherrill wants to talk about is President Trump.
	Come on.
	What does the president have to do with rising property taxes and higher electricity bills?
	New Jersey's a mess because out of touch politicians like Bill Murphy and Mikey Cheryl care more about pronouns in sanctuary cities than they do solving our problems.
	That changes when I'm governor.
	I'll lower electricity bills.
	Cut and cap property taxes, and keep our community safe.
	Folks, it's time to fix New Jersey.
	When I'm governor, we will.
	Now it's still, I mean, like New York and like California and like Illinois, there has been somewhat of a mass exodus.
	Anyway, the Republican gubernatorial candidate Jack Chiller Chitterelli joins us now.
	Um, sir, welcome back to the program.
	How are you?
	Very well, Sean.
	Thanks for having me.
	And thanks for also pointing out that we Republicans do win governor races in New Jersey.
	We're gonna win this one.
	Well, I think it's important.
	I really kind of was kicking myself four years ago because that was such a close race in the end.
	I don't know why the polls didn't show it.
	This time now I've seen at least a dozen polls where you're within single digits of the Democrat, and I think there's such anger and host uh hostility, outright hostility at the failure of Phil Murphy, the current governor, that there's an opening here that maybe didn't exist even four years ago, even though you had a close race.
	Republicans are always underrepresented in any of these polls that come out of our universities, they don't invest the necessary money, but the party that really dictates the outcomes of elections, statewide elections in New Jersey, Sean, or the 2.6 million unaffiliated independent voters, they lean right, and uh they've had it with Phil Murphy's failed policies, and make no mistake, my opponent is Murphy 2.0.
	And the fact that she endorsed Mundami and he returned the favor is a disqualifier.
	Well, it's you would think it's a disqualifier.
	Are people talking about what's going on in New York City?
	I mean, a lot of people commute from New Jersey to New York City to work.
	Uh are they talking about Mamdanny?
	They've you bet they are.
	I mean, the Jewish community is very, very concerned, and the 400,000 New Jerseyans that have to travel in the Manhattan each day to work are very, very concerned.
	Um, and the guys also come out with a whole lot of anti-business rhetoric, uh, not to mention his anti-Semitic remarks and remarks against Italians.
	So listen, I hope he doesn't win.
	But if by chance he does, I'm rolling out the welcome, Matt.
	Well, uh, I gotta tell you something.
	It's it's it's a shame that New York would go down this road.
	It's so funny because he did a series of interviews and he says absolutely nothing.
	I just want the people of New Jersey, and we we have a big listenership for New Jersey.
	I want people to know the candidate that you're running against and exactly where this person stands on the issues that should be of importance to them and how this will impact their life.
	Uh like New York, it's a high tax state.
	Like New York, you have a lot of burdensome regulation.
	Like New York, you have a lot of crime issues.
	Uh like New York, you have high property taxes, uh, law and order, safety, security.
	You do have the defund, dismantle, no bail law idiocy and reimagine the police idiocy there.
	Your electricity rates, I've been reading it through the roof.
	You know, explain, you know, what is your opponent stand for?
	She's trying to portray herself as a centrist.
	She's anything but this is somebody that supported Joe Biden's open border policies, his inflationary policies.
	Somebody voted no on the Lake and Riley Act.
	Somebody who voted yes twice to allow biological males to participate in female sports.
	Supports us having sanctuary cities, us being a sanctuary state.
	Somebody was found guilty of breaking federal law on stock trades and stock reportings for a congressperson.
	And someone who the New York Times reports was trading defense stocks while sitting on the House Armed Services Committee.
	I mean, this is who this person is.
	She tripled her net worth since she got to Congress.
	She's only been here six plus years.
	But can't explain how that happened in in interviews.
	And she's ducking public appearances left and right.
	And last but most importantly, Sean, she's not from New Jersey.
	John Corzine wasn't, Phil Murphy wasn't.
	Cheddarelli's have been here for a hundred years.
	We've all been business owners.
	We all know what's going on here in New Jersey.
	So, but not my opponent.
	She hasn't even been here all that long.
	The demographics, like New York, California, Illinois have shifted.
	A lot of people have left.
	A lot of people got fed up, like I left New York.
	Um, and they have moved to states that uh you know have less crime, better quality of life, better schools, lower taxes, and and issues such as these.
	And a lot of people have left New Jersey also.
	Um, so I would imagine that that makes the that makes your race that much harder because those would be people that I would think would be more prone to vote for you.
	You're not wrong.
	A lot of people have left, but I gotta tell you what, the ones that have stayed behind are pissed.
	They're pissed about property taxes, they're pissed about the election.
	Don't piss off the people in New Jersey.
	That's like pissing off New Yorkers on steroids.
	Exactly.
	And uh, and and people know a phony when they see and hear one.
	So when she uh can't answer the question on a recent national TV interview, what's the first thing you do as governor?
	I mean, we got 15 seconds of mumble jumble.
	She couldn't answer the question.
	So I've talked awful bat on day one, we get out of Reggie, the regional greenhouse gas initiative has been a failure.
	I can lower electricity bills on day one by pulling out of Reggie.
	We're gonna support law enforcement, make our communities safe again.
	Nonviolent crime is through the roof in New Jersey.
	We can lower property taxes with a new school funding formula.
	I'll reduce the size and cost of our state government to afford a tax cut for individuals and businesses.
	She doesn't stand for any of those things.
	Oh, it's gonna be interesting to watch.
	Uh, we're gonna continue to follow the race.
	If people want to get in touch with you, your campaign, how do they do it?
	Jack4NJ.com, and that's the number for Jack4NJ.com.
	And thank you for asking, Sean.
	We appreciate it.
	Jack Cheddarelli, thank you so much for being with us.
	800 941 Sean.
	I mean, this is very a quintessential race.
	And, you know, I I just wish hope and pray for people that live in states like New Jersey.
	Like I have a uh for a long time.
	I first started talking about leaving New York.
	Linda, you might remember this in 20 what, 14.
	And remember, all the governors from all of these different states were so gracious to me and calling and inviting me to move to their state.
	And we made it very public.
	And uh it was pretty cool.
	And it got Andrew Cuomo's attention at the time.
	Do you remember?
	And then remember Andrew Cuomo asked to meet with me.
	I'd never met him before.
	And we met next to Fox at a at a steakhouse, and we had a nice conversation.
	He made a promise to me that if he was elected, re-elected, this is gonna be for his second term, that as soon as he got back in office, that he would open up fracking in New York, which would really have helped New York State dramatically, like it helped the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania.
	And within like a week or two after he got re-elected, he did just the opposite.
	I mean, hey not, yeah, I just I was just stunned.
	Because he just said he's gonna be able to do that.
	I'm not very stunned in the face.
	They all lie.
	And that family is, you know, it's a it's a legacy family, you know.
	His father Mario is in politics, now he's in politics, his brother's in media and politics.
	That's what they do, they lie.
	You know, and most politicians lie, to be fair.
	We have like a lot of people.
	And I understand him defending his brother.
	I I felt like he was treated unfairly.
	If you if you're gonna defend a family member, I kind of consider that honorable.
	I do.
	Uh, but that's separate and apart.
	But you're right about a legacy family.
	Yeah, it's uh it's a well-known name in New York, but it's not doing much to help them win the New York City mayoral race.
	He's just not polling well.
	Well, they need to team up.
	That's what they don't realize.
	See, the problem is is that Republicans are not investing in the mayoral race in New York because where New York goes, so goes the nation.
	Whatever is happening in Europe, the United States follows five years later.
	So take a real hard good look at what you're seeing in the EU and open your eyes up.
	Because if you're going to vote for Comie Donnie, all you need to do is look at the UK.
	You're going to see your future right in front of you.
	So don't make the wrong choice.
	It's absolutely wrong.
	Vote for somebody else.
	Do not split the vote.
	What we need to do is bump up that ticket, get everybody on one.
	So it's either got to be Adams and Slewa or it's got to be Cuomo and Sleeva.
	Because Cuomo and Adams hate each other, so that's not happening.
	Oh, I don't think that's going to happen either, but uh I like the fact that you're thinking out of the box.
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	Uh, John, in the United Socialist Utopia of your part-time Governor Gavin Newsom, full-time Tweety Bird, full-time podcaster, full-time Trump hater, uh, John, how are you?
	Glad you called.
	Thank you for the call.
	Yes.
	Nowhere on the planet throughout history has communism or socialism work for the citizens.
	And the Democrats think with the GDP of the United States, they can make it work here.
	Well, California has the fourth largest economy in the world.
	And it also has the highest taxes in the United States.
	By far.
	And they have a supermajority.
	And they have massive deficits.
	And it's a sanctuary state, and they spend billions on services for illegals.
	That's why they have massive deficits.
	Yes, and who depending on who you listen to, that deficit is 12 billion to almost 60 billion.
	It's insane.
	Yes, and it should be a Democrat proof of concept here.
	They have the fourth largest economy in the world.
	They have the highest taxes.
	And if it's gonna work, it should work here.
	What have they gotten?
	The highest deficit out of all the states.
	They have the highest homeless, and they have the most costly fires almost every year.
	And on the flip side, Florida has a GOP supermajority.
	They have a balanced budget.
	They have about the 15th largest economy.
	And they are one of the safest states where California's at sixth worst and the best schools.
	And and look put it this way, where the population, uh, they have a much higher population than the state of New York and my state of Florida, and half the budget.
	Half.
	Fully half.
	And their services on in every category are infinitely better.
	And the same goes for California.
	If you set out to destroy a state, you know, look at New York, look at California.
	Unfortunately, New Jersey and Illinois is another one.
	I mean, you they're doing everything imaginable to fail, and they're failing spectacularly.
	It really is.
	Now you said something earlier in this conversation that I took note of, and that is socialism always fails.
	You're right.
	And if it was gonna work, it would work in California because they're trying everything imaginable to make it work.
	You know, I wrote a whole chapter in the last book I wrote in 2020, Live Free or Die.
	Socialism, it's history of failure, whatever name, whatever manifestation, whatever you want to call it, socialism, statism, Marxism, communism, it always ends the same way.
	Unfulfilled promises, more poverty, and a loss of freedom that you end up calculating in the name of false security and promises that they can never fulfill.
	That's what Mom Donnie's offering New York right now.
	Um, you know, we he gives these you know platitudes about everything's gonna be free, but it's not gonna be free.
	Uh I'm telling you what's gonna happen.
	That you know, if you look at the years when when big businesses left New York City and Wall Street South was created, and that means every private equity company, investment company, every big bank, you know, they all have half their businesses now in South Florida.
	And it wasn't COVID in 2020 that pushed them out, it was when they raised taxes in New York in 2021.
	That was that was the tipping point for them, the combination thereof.
	If mom Donnie is successful at putting this extra burden on wealthy individuals, quote, tax the rich, tax the rich, tax the rich, unquote, Andrew Cuomo.
	Well, we did.
	Well, you know, God forbid the rich leave.
	Well, people that make money have left and they're leaving in droves.
	What they I'm telling you, they have a plan B. How do I know this?
	Because I know too many people that are very powerful business people in New York that are planning their exit right now.
	They are they're assuming that Mom Dani, people are saying, well, why don't they invest?
	You know, Linda, for example, had a great idea.
	You know, two people team up, put those two teams together.
	Hopefully, you can beat Mam Dani.
	I don't at this point, I would say as of today, and it could change, it's a fate of complete.
	Mam Dani wins.
	But these companies, they're not stupid.
	You don't become successful.
	Anyone that has been successful that has not inherited wealth, you usually, you know, so while maybe some are lucky, most do it the old-fashioned way.
	Hard work and and common sense and just and just a dedication to providing goods and services that people want, needed, and desire.
	They did it the old-fashioned way.
	And they're not going to give it away to inefficient, ineffective government with the pie in the sky promises to waste their hard-earned money.
	Uh they didn't uh because they're they're business people.
	Anyway, that's that's my prediction.
	Anyway, I appreciate I do appreciate your call.
	800 941 Shauna's on number if you want to be a part of the program.
	Uh, by the way, a New York City judge, as of yesterday, struck down an executive order by the New York City mayor currently, Eric Adams, allowing uh that allowed immigration agents onto Rikers Island.
	I mean, this you can't make this up.
	New York State Supreme Court, Justice Mary Rosato declared executive order number 50, a decree that reopened immigration and custom enforcement office on Rikers Island prison conflicts to be unlawful and void, according to court documents.
	Skating, seven-page ruling, democratic judge suggesting the order was tainted by the appearance of a conflict of interest between the Trump administration and Adams.
	This is just asinine.
	This is the law of the land.
	We're a constitutional republic.
	We have a supremacy clause which gives jurisdiction on issues involving federal issues like federal crimes like illegal immigration.
	You don't respect our laws, our borders, our sovereignty, that then goes immediately to the federal government.
	That's why ICE is now conducting raids all over Boston and Chicago, and there's nothing the Boston mayor or the Boston governor, I'm sorry, Massachusetts governor, the Boston mayor can do about it.
	There's nothing that the Chicago mayor, Brendan Johnson can do.
	There's nothing the Chicago, I'm sorry, the Illinois governor of J.B. Pritzker could do.
	Anyway, 800-941 Sean is our number.
	Now we are awaiting a presser from President Trump in the Oval Office.
	Uh, among other things, I think he's gonna sign some executive actions.
	He'll probably take some questions from the press as he usually does.
	Uh we'll get to your calls here in the interim.
	Uh, again, the number 800-941.
	Sean Christian is in New Jersey.
	Christian, how are you?
	Hey, Sean, thanks for taking my call.
	Uh, I just want to offer my endorsement to Jack Federelli.
	I'm a New Jersey, and you're all my life.
	My family's been here.
	They moved to Italy from Italy from here, you know, over a hundred years ago.
	Um, and we're just getting crushed.
	I'm not offering the endorsement just as a Republican, but as a pure New Jersey.
	Phil Murphy is overdeveloping the beautiful Mammoth County, closing farms, making people sell, building condos, um the property taxes are going up by three, four thousand dollars a year.
	Companies are fleeing the state.
	Uh electricity bills used to be two, three hundred dollars a month.
	Now they're six, seven hundred dollars a month.
	Um, you know, I'm not fleeing.
	I'm standing my ground, and I'm voting for Jack Cinderelli, and I need everybody in the state to do so, Republican or Democrat, and moderate especially.
	This guy's a great guy, and if anything, he's more moderate than any governor we ever had in the state.
	I think he'd be a great candidate.
	I think he's gonna be great uh if he can win New Jersey.
	New Jersey New Jersey does have a history of electing Republican governors.
	They do.
	Um, however, I think unfortunately, New Jersey like New York, New Jersey like California, New Jersey like Illinois, has seen a mass exodus of people in large part because of high taxes, burdensome regulation, uh, quality of life issues, crime, homelessness, and and the like.
	And I think it has made it that much tougher, you know, for people to stay in New Jersey.
	You know, you listen to Mamdanny.
	Well, we're gonna raise the corporate tax rate to equal your state of New Jersey.
	Now, every other tax is higher in New York City, and every other tax pretty much, you know, the highest tax state is California by far, the highest income taxes, the highest sales taxes, the highest gas taxes.
	And yet people and and we see what people do.
	They've been voting with their feet and they have been leaving.
	Now, I think those would be people more inclined to turn those states red.
	And you know, what I say to people if they're moving, you know, it's okay if you move to a red state, but don't bring your your stupid blue state ideology and philosophy with you because it's not wanted.
	Uh anyway, appreciate the call, Christian Tyler, Utah next Sean Hannity Show.
	What's up, Tyler?
	How are you?
	Thank you for taking my phone, Carl Sean.
	I'm a third generation farmer, and we have a silent epidemic, in my opinion, about ready to explode in this country with our agriculture.
	It's prejected by several magazines the next six months.
	Any farmer will 75% of us will have to take out some sort of bankruptcy.
	All of us are in the red.
	It's great we did dough and tariffs and that, but farmers always bear the brunt of it.
	But we have no farm bill in place.
	We have no anywhere for grain to get sold right now.
	All the contracts are canceled or on hold.
	We also export alfalfa.
	Those places are all in pause mode.
	All of our input costs the last two years are up 30, 40, 50 percent, and we're all just about ready to throw in the towel.
	We don't know what to do, and that's why I'm calling you for somewhere to get some recognition of this is not a joke.
	This is really gonna happen if we don't get some help.
	Well, my understanding is that in a lot of these trade deals that the president has made, he's been looking out for farmers and for ranchers.
	For example, Australia is now gonna be importing American beef for the first time since you know, mad cow disease.
	What was that back in 2003?
	I know that some of the agricultural products that have that European countries and Canada have been resistant to importing.
	That my understanding is that they are lifting those restrictions, and that should open up markets that you never had before.
	Is that not happening?
	What do you what are you growing?
	We grow alfalfa, barley, wheat, and corn, and that is not true.
	None of those have taken place at all.
	In fact, I read yesterday for the first time ever, Brazil will outdo the United States this year in beef production.
	We have a little bit of a here in northern Utah, 50% of the cattle they kill are live brought in from Canada every day.
	Yeah.
	Well, uh look, what I'm hoping for is that in the end that this is going to be a net plus for everybody.
	I mean, you know, the president even said that our farmers, he has said many, many times he is he has singled out farmers, for example, uh, on the issue of the illegal immigration, he's willing to make exceptions for workers if it's going to hurt farmers and their ability to harvest their crops.
	Uh That's one example.
	And I know that the president also is part of these trade negotiations has made it very clear that he wants American agriculture and American uh beef products and poultry products uh being sold into every country that we're doing business with.
	It has been front and center.
	I mean, I'm sure you're you're following it.
	Um so uh I'm I'm not sure where does it stand for you now?
	Is it just not taking effect yet?
	It's not fast enough.
	If we go back to COVID, we all every year have to borrow money against our property, and we have all gobbled up our equity to get us to this point, and we are lit literally all tapped out.
	I was in our farm service agency office yesterday, see what programs right now today, there is zero programs for farmers.
	I haven't had a subsidy check in over eight years.
	But there is not a low interest loan program, there's no zero program interest programs because the farm bill died, and let's be honest, two-thirds of the farm bill is food stamps, wick.
	Farmers only get one third of the farm bill when it's all said and done.
	I wish they'd move that money to help and human services, because every article every morning say, Oh, these farmers get all the subsidy money.
	I wish we we can't.
	I mean, a combine now is one point two million dollars for a brand new John Deere combine, yet corn price is the same as 1978.
	When a combine $50,000, well, I I I would I would argue that can't be the case.
	Um, you know what, let me dig a little deeper into this because my understanding was that in all the trade deals, especially with Canada, I believe it was part of the Mexico negotiation as well, and the European Union negotiation.
	You know, for years there has been restrictions.
	Europe has not imported American uh meat products, poultry products, or or agricultural products, and uh in part this this is something that Health and Human Services have been dealing with as well, and a lot of it had to do with issues involving pesticides, hormonal use, etc.
	Some of it was just outright excuse making.
	Like there's no excuse for Australia not to be importing our beef at all.
	I mean, going back to mad cow disease, really.
	Uh that was a long time ago.
	But we're gonna look into it.
	Listen, I will say this, Tyler, we are lost without people like you.
	You feed the world, and you certainly need to make ends meet.
	You need to be able to buy that John Deere tractor.
	You need to be able to keep you know those fields plowed and and that food growing, because we're feeding the whole world.
	Anyway, my friend, appreciate you uh being out there, appreciate what you do.
	Christian in California, the United Socialist Utopia of your part-time governor Gavin Newsom.
	You're a full-time podcaster, full-time Tweety Bird, full-time Trump obsessed hater.
	What's going on?
	Hey, how's it going, Sean?
	Yeah, I'm out here in Northern California, and of course we dislike our governor.
	Um my family's lived here since the 30s.
	And uh we love California.
	We love our weather, we love just everything about it except our politics.
	Um but what's happening is all of my friends, I'm 56 years old, all my friends are moving out of state.
	But my family, my my aging family, we're older and we just don't we don't want to leave and have to start all over again.
	Um, my parents are in their 80s.
	So what I'm wondering is what's gonna happen to California and New York when all these big businesses leave and there's nothing left to provide jobs.
	Nobody left to provide jobs.
	Look, there's always going to be some business that will survive in California.
	The weather's too good.
	You know, it's interesting.
	Many of the wealthiest people in the country have come from or still live in California.
	Many have made their money out there, and as things have gotten worse, they've pulled up stakes and they've moved their operations and their companies elsewhere, and red states are benefiting greatly from it.
	I mean, you use the perfect example, which is U-Hall.
	If you take a U-Haul out of California, you bring it to Texas, it's gonna cost you a fortune.
	If you bring it back from Texas to California, you you are doing you haul a favor and you're gonna pay like twenty percent of the price, you know, if you were coming from California.
	So I but you know, do uh eventually do people wake up?
	Do the politics change?
	I I it's it's hard for me to predict.
	I mean, when I give up, when when people hear me say that it looks inevitable, Linda in particular, that Mamdanny is going to win the mayorship in New York, it does look like he's going to win.
	Now, the only poll that I saw that saw that was encouraging was it was a dead heat one-on-one with Andrew Cuomo and Mom Donnie, maybe in a general election, maybe Andrew Cuomo, you know, could compete with Mom Donnie.
	As again, I'm looking at polls.
	I'm not looking at Matt Towery or John McLaughlin or Robert Cahaley or Rasmussen or the people that I trust the most, but you know, when I say that it's kind of a fate of complete that these cities, you know, Andrew's pretty left to center as well.
	Um and then you then Linda says, well, why don't people join forces?
	Uh why doesn't Eric Adams and Curtis Leewood get together and maybe form a coalition?
	I don't know if that gets to the number they need to get to.
	And you know, I'm not in the business of telling people to get in or out of races, and you know, it would be nice if you stopped a Marxist and a communist and a guy that you know went all the way till Saturday before he could condemn the use of the phrase global antifada.
	Uh I mean, that type of you know, Marxist extremist is really, you know, beyond the tail and beyond anything I thought I'd ever see in the country, to be very honest.
	Uh all right, 800-941 Sean uh Jason, Ohio.
	What's up, Jason?
	How are you, sir?
	Good afternoon, sir.
	What's going on?
	Listener, first time getting through to talk to you.
	I'm glad you're out there.
	Glad you've been listening.
	What's on your mind?
	Glad you made it through.
	Uh talking about the farmers.
	Uh farmers around here bust their butts and try to make a living, and you know, it's more regulation and law and regulation.
	Sometimes, even in red states, I hate to say, because I own a red state Ohio, but sometimes even the regulations here are hurting people.
	Uh I think it's what are the regulations hurting farmers in Ohio?
	What's that?
	What are the regulations hurting farmers in Ohio?
	Too many taxes.
	Too much tax.
	They want to take everybody.
	Uh to me, it feels like they want to take everybody's land away from them.
	So you can't own anything.
	Is it state regulation or federal regulation?
	I would be sure I'd be kind of shocked if it was state.
	Uh it probably it probably jumps county to county, but uh, I'm in Tuscaroris County, Ohio, so uh we've had a tax increase here three out of the last four years, and some of that is oil and gas drilling.
	I think that's because some people in the county seats and somewhere around the counties here think that you know they're gonna get more money because they probably will, and it's good to a point for everyone.
	But when you tax people to the point that's even if they're making some royalty checks from the oil and gas, then it sounds to me like you have a local issue going on there, and it sounds like it's gas-related and properly property related, and it's on a more localized level.
	Uh, hang in there, buddy.
	I the business is tough.
	We don't give enough credit to these farmers.
	We don't give enough, they don't get enough support.

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