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School Woke Fight - September 8th, Hour 2
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I know the state-run legacy media mob has largely been ignoring how the deep state is being exposed.
There's two big stories out today.
One, the White House, uh the Trump White House counsel raising very serious questions about the legality of Joe Biden's final wave of pardons and commutations, urging the DOJ and Congress to interview the former president's advisors to determine if he truly authorized acts of clemency and pardons uh signed by an auto pen operated by his staff.
And and more and more, even Joe Biden's interview in the New York Times indicate that he only set down standards and criteria which would invalidate probably every one of them.
And so we're trying we're gonna get to the bottom of that.
The other big issue is material evidence has been discovered in previously secret prohibited access case files raising concern about FBI agents and the abuse of their authority or obstruction of investigations to help Democrats.
Anyway, here with uh all the deep dive investigative reporting is our friend John Solomon, again, chief investigative reporter, founder, editor in chief, just the news.com.
Sir, how are you?
I'm well.
You set those up right.
It's it's an amazing moment to see some of these documents come out.
Uh I'm really shocked by some of the things we're finding right now.
All right, let's start with commutations and pardons and autopen and Joe Biden and his in his own words I find a pretty damning, and that was the New York Times interview.
Um, but if you listen to White House counsel David Warrington and you wrote this in your piece in a memo to President Donald Trump's chief of staff, Susie Wiles, they do not have the authority to conduct interviews.
The White House counsel doesn't.
We recommend that you approve making the information contained in this memorandum and the supporting materials available to entities that do have the power.
Explain that.
Yeah, this is a very powerful moment in the um uh in the unraveling of the Biden era and potentially what we didn't know about President Biden because it was hidden from us.
Um first off, what Dave Warrington's investigation found was that the president, Joe Biden staff believed he had a legal obligation to sign by hand uh any pardons that he gave.
That was the rule that they created at the beginning of the presidency.
But as the presidency went on, Joe Biden was working less and less.
He was in the office less and less, and they couldn't get pardons in front of him.
There's a memo at one point that says, we because of the president's limited schedule, we it sometimes takes weeks to get a single pardon from him.
At some point, Joe Biden became so disinterested in exercising one of the most awesome powers that he had as president, the Pardon of the Power, the Parton of Commutation.
He outsourced it to uh Vice President Kamala Harris, which by the way, the Constitution doesn't allow for.
That is the body of evidence is out there.
And now what Dave Warrenson says is listen, to make sure that these memos are an accurate reflection, to make sure we can come to a question about whether these commutations and pardons were legal.
Remember, President Biden gave 37 people a reprieve from death death penalties that juries had imposed on them.
He undid the will of the the juries.
They may be invalid based on some of the evidence.
What Dave Warrington is asking is that the Justice Department and Congress use subpoenas, do compelled interviews and find out if these um documents are an accurate reflection.
If they are, there's a strong possibility that the Trump Justice Department could come and declare some of those pardons and commutations legally invalid.
All right.
So what this thing concludes with, according to the memo, is if Biden made every clemency decision, pardon decision, uh, then why do his briefing books from December of 2024 to January 2025 contain nothing of substance on pardons or commutations that he allegedly approved.
Now that goes to a previous report that you had where his very own Department of Justice, the second in command, and this is behind Merrick Garland, uh, was warning two days before Joe left office that uh raising the question of the legality of all of that.
Um so even they thought that they had legal issues going into this.
Oh, yeah.
They had legal issues At the beginning, they believe the president has an obligation assigned.
He uses the auto pen instead, and as they get towards the end, they're very concerned that these mass category pardons where the president isn't even identifying which people he might be pardoning.
He's just like, hey, here's a class and you guys figure it out.
They were deeply concerned that this was illegal uh and uh not sustainable in the courts.
And that is the mess that Joe Biden left this country as he exited the White House.
And I think we're gonna have to walk through this for a period of time until we get some final answers.
But the fact that his own Justice Department had concerns about his behavior, that his own staff couldn't get him to pay attention to pardons, and that's why he was uh uh outsourcing it.
And at the very beginning, they told the guy, hey, you gotta sign on the dotted line.
An autopen doesn't work.
The fact that he didn't follow any of those three concerns, I think is going to become a major issue.
I would expect James Comer to ramp up uh these interviews and maybe the Justice Department to start to take some action.
And then there's one final point, because about a month ago, uh President Biden reared his head up and said, All right, listen, the reason I use the auto pen is that I don't there were 1,500 pardons and I didn't have time to sign them all.
And Dave Warranton's great review puts a lot of the lie to that one.
It turns out those mass pardons only required two personal signatures.
So it wasn't a lot of work.
It wasn't 1,500 signatures, but unfortunately Joe Biden didn't do that as far as we can tell.
No evidence in the archives that he attended the meetings or that he personally approved some of these.
And I think given that uh there's going to be a pretty strong investigation in Congress in the Justice Department in the next few weeks, and I wouldn't be surprised if before we get to the holiday season, uh the Justice Department's made a determination on the legality of some of these pardons and commutations.
Well, right after you were on the program late last week, we had on James Comer of the Ho House Oversight Committee, and and he raised the the possibility of bringing in people if if Kamala Harris was in fact if this was handed off to her uh of her being called in,
maybe Biden family members being called in, something you and I have discussed in the past, and that would include you know, Hunter Biden, Jim Biden, people that uh as a matter of law would not have the ability to invoke the Fifth Amendment because they themselves got these pardons.
And by the way, I'd I'd call on Adam Schiff while I'm at it.
Uh oh, yeah.
I think all of and Kamala Harris, I think, is one of those, as you mentioned, that is on the circle list now.
I think given the fact that there's a clear reference that uh the president outsourced these pardon decisions to her, knowing what she did uh could be very significant.
And she has skated in most congressional investigations to date.
I think she is next up in the potential um buys of uh congressional subpoena and congressional interviews, so more to come.
You you've raised other important questions, and the memo raises questions.
If the president approved the pardons of commutations, why did staff often wait days before communicating any of these decisions?
Why weren't were these not included in any memos?
Uh why is it, you know, on the on a whole variety of issues, you know, why didn't anybody know who ultimately made the decision to use the auto pen?
You know, uh were staffers to the chief of staff uh uh and deputy chief of staff were policy sending emails on their b behalf regarding pardons and other issues without informing recipients.
And if he was fit to serve meeting Joe Biden as president, why did he need cheat sheets explaining that he had proved the commutations for 1,500 people?
And why did he tell the New York Times that he set down criteria and standards?
I'll add that question myself.
Yeah, listen, the fact that his briefing book is silent on these issues.
You president get the briefing book, tells him this is what you're gonna be doing today.
Never in the briefing book is there, hey, Mr. President, you're gonna sign these 1,500, or you're gonna approve these 1,500 commutations for people who know how the paperwork process works in the uh White House.
Uh, it is a red flag and potentially a smoking gun that uh the president's own briefing books suggested he'll control about what he was doing.
Explain why his own Justice Department only two days before he left office.
The second in charge behind or one of the top lieutenants behind Murray Garland raised the issue two days before they left the White House.
Yeah, because they knew there were these categories of people who had gotten uh either drug offenses or uh COVID uh uh penalties during the COVID era, and Joe Biden did not have the time, nor was there any evidence that anyone had looked at all the names and said, who's on this list?
Is the is the president personally approving everyone?
Is he just giving an Okay, to let someone else decide that.
And to them, that was a misuse of the pardon power.
You know, the great thing about the pardon power in its history, it's derived from uh British law going all the way back to the 13th century.
And American courts and British courts in their in their derision or the uh development of this law are very clear.
Any deviation from the appropriate process negates a pardon.
That is the long-term standard that the courts have set.
And right now there's pretty strong evidence that Joe Biden didn't deviate.
He went way off course on this.
And uh that may come around to invalidate some of these decisions he made.
Imagine if you're sitting on death row, you think you got off, and you might be put back on now.
Joe Biden may have played the ultimate um painful trick on you.
All right, quick break more with investigative reporter, founder, editor in chief, just the news.com, John Solomon.
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Can you go into detail the piece you wrote up about how material evidence has now been discovered in previously, quote, secret prohibited access case files raising concern about FBI agents' abuse of authority or obstruction of investigations?
Uh this is what we have referred to often over the years as the deep state.
Yeah.
Now, this could be one of the most significant development.
And what we're learning is that Cash Patel and his team, using career agents, letting the people do their job, agents doing their job without political interference, are discovering that inside all of these prohibited case files.
These are case files where most agents, even if you were working on a case, you weren't allowed to access some of the evidence.
Um it was kept off of the books.
And these are the most sensitive investigations about Hillary Clinton and Hunter Biden and and the Clinton Foundation and uh other uh CEFC, the China company that was paying lots of money to Hunter Biden and the Biden family.
These were kept off the books, and when uh Cash Patel's team got to look inside the books, they started to discover some very serious concerns.
Timelines that suggested that there was obstruction and interference, not by witnesses.
Normally, obstruction charges are you're investigating in a witness or somebody gets involved and tries to block the FBI.
The FBI was blocking prosecutors from doing their job.
And and you begin to see uh senior executives so concerned by what their bosses are doing above them, what the Andy McCabe's and James Comey's of the world were doing above them, they start writing memos to file, keeping book on their bosses so that if anything ever comes of this, they wrote down a memorial, uh memo saying, hey, for some reason we didn't follow the rules here, or for some reason Hillary Clinton got a pass.
This is so extraordinary.
It's the rarest thing.
I just interviewed an FBI agent, worked for more than two decades for the FBI.
I think I never wrote a memo to file.
I never felt in the entire time of 20 years I needed to do something like that, and yet here you have the executive assistant director, like the number three official in the FBI writing memos saying, uh, this happened.
It's a little unusual about Hillary Clinton's laptop.
Uh, I'm writing it.
And he writes it the day before the election, the September 7, 2016, just before Donald Trump wins.
This guy feels so compelled by what he witnessed his bosses doing that he actually writes a memo to file, and they're discovering this now.
Timelines written by people saying, hey, the story out there isn't what it is.
This is what really happened.
You see this protection racket around Democrats, Hillary Clinton, Hunter Biden, people like that.
And then, of course, the abuses in trying to pursue the Donald Trumps and the Carter Pages and the George Papadopoulos.
It is almost when I just talked to two or three people like, can you ever remember a time where the FBI was investigating its own agents for obstruction?
Like, never.
No, it's this is like unprecedented.
So, what Cash Patel has done is is now created a body of evidence to go look at, and they're going to present it to the Justice Department, as far as I can tell.
And the Justice Department will decide whether some of the things that the FBI did actually obstructed prosecutors from doing their job in legitimate criminal investigations.
That is rare and unprecedented moment.
Now, if you go back to June, the Senate Judiciary Committee Chairman Chuck Grassley urged the FBI to probe how the Bureau under James Comey used a segregated system.
It was is what you're describing here of politically sensitive cases known as prohibited access case files.
Uh fast forward to FBI director Cash Patel recently locating a document showing that then executive assistant director Randall Coleman wrote a memo to file the day before the 2016 presidential election.
That's the one where Donald Trump beat Hillary Clinton, laying out the unusual behavior of FBI managers after fresh evidence in Clinton's classified email uh scandal were discovered on former Congressman Anthony Wiener's laptop.
This goes back to the shut it down memo we talked about in your show a few weeks ago when I broke that.
So the FBI has two simultaneous investigations going on in the other Clinton.
One the email case, one the pay to play allegations at the Clinton Foundation going all the way back to Peter Schweitzer's great butt.
Um both are highly active in the middle of the 2016 election, and all of a sudden Andy McCabe steps in and said, No more investigating Hillary Clinton Foundation unless I prove it.
And then the deputy attorney general comes in, Dally Aids, who works for Obama, saying, Shut it down.
I don't want any more investigation.
That's in and of itself obstruction.
But then something happened.
The Anthony Wiener laptop is found.
And on that laptop are all these emails that are related to the private server.
Now, most of us have known about that in the private email server in the mishandling of the FBI and that, but there was a second component about the discovery of the emails that is now concerned Cash Patel's leadership team.
Those emails were not only relevant to whether she moved classified information through her server, they had potential evidence of whether deals were being made where if you made a donation to the Clinton Foundation, you could get a favor from the State Department.
And it appears there is strong concern based on what uh Mr. Coleman and others have written in these memos that uh they may have been keeping that from investigators, so that Hillary Clinton wouldn't face a potential corrupt investigation or new evidence in that.
That's what this is all about, this new memo.
John Solomon, just the news.com.
Thank you, sir.
Appreciate your time as always.
Good to be with you, Sean.
Thank you so much.
Uh, you know, with kids going back to school, you would think that uh things have changed.
Now things are dramatically different than they were maybe four or five years ago in terms of DEI and you know, woke education in schools.
It has been challenged.
Uh Donald Trump has taken it to a new level.
Uh as a result, there have been significant changes, but not enough in terms of changes.
Uh parental rights are front and center, you know, still for your kids in education debates.
Uh that's why you need tiger moms like Linda that show up at school board meetings and and cause chaos.
Do you cause chaos when you go?
If necessary, absolutely.
Anything from my children.
And and do they know you by name?
I think they know me pretty well.
Yeah.
They no, they know.
Oh, there she is.
They've when you walk in the room, it's like, oh no, it's gonna be one of those meetings, right?
How often does that happen?
I would say every meeting is like that.
You know, you have to stand up against the woke ideology.
I'm all in.
Uh, I'm not afraid.
I love to fight.
But you're uh well, you're fighting, you know.
Look if we would just focus on reading, writing, math, science, uh uh, history, computers, you know, things that will benefit kids' lives.
Uh certainly imposing the, you know, the golden rule, love God.
Well, you can't mention God in a lot of public schools.
Love God with all your heart, mind, body, and soul, and your neighbor as yourself, and the simple golden rule of you know, treat others the way you want to be treated.
It kind of covers every HR book from from start to finish.
I don't care if it's 500 pages or five pages.
Uh, but we're still dealing with a lot of these issues.
Uh now, Gene Hamilton's gonna join us in a second, the new president of American First Legal.
You might recall that was started by Stephen Miller.
He has launched a new parent and student action center.
It's a one-stop hub.
It's designed to give you parents and students practical resources so that you can push back against woe curricula, union-driven agendas, uh, discrimination in schools.
I mean, you are allowed to like Donald Trump.
You are allowed to be a conservative.
Uh, but they say the effort is about arming families with knowledge and tools that they need to fight back effectively against school Bureaucracies, activist agendas, uh teachers' unions, ensuring the parents, not special interests, will direct their child's education.
I mean, you know, again, we spend more per capita on education than any other industrialized country, and we have the worst test results.
You you you we have institutionalized failure at best, institutionalized mediocrity.
Now, let me play for you, if I may here, Temecula, California.
Uh there Temecula Valley uh unified school district confronted and harassed moms at a student walkout for opposing boys and girls' locker rooms.
Yes, this is still happening.
Listen.
I know you all are on the wrong side of the history, wrong side of this.
And I know that's we have nothing to say.
That's right.
You are endangering children's lives by doing this.
This is not making anybody safe.
Have a good day.
Don't throw pearls a swine.
Goodbye.
I'm not a parent.
And you're acting like that.
Oh, okay.
So I'm around the current and you're in the swine is that is that in your Jesus loves that young man just as much as he loves you.
Is that trans she, the young man?
You don't get to tell somebody what they are.
You don't get to tell somebody what they are.
I can raise my voice if I love.
Go ahead.
Thank you so much for being here.
Thank you for so much for your first amendment rights.
We are doing the same.
And that's where government is not supposed to do that.
I am not endangering children.
I'm here for the rights of children.
Oh, yeah.
Yes.
So what about the rights of those children that were scared to go in that bathroom?
They would not go in that bathroom.
The administration may just have bars have been their right and moral or value by everybody.
Please go away.
Because what you're doing is wrong.
Silence is permission, and I'm not sure.
That young man is loved.
She is loved.
She is loved.
She is what she wants to be.
You don't get to tell her that.
You're not her parents.
I can see whatever I want about the children.
You don't get to tell her.
Anyway, if you would have told me when I started in radio in 1987 that I'd be talking about politicians uh fighting for the right to put feminine hygiene products in boys' bathrooms in grade school, I wouldn't have believed you.
You know, if if you would have told me that you if you send your kid off to college, they spend their first day at school walking around, you know, a courtyard asking people what pronoun would you like to be called by, uh, I probably would not have believed you.
If you would have told me that there are vice presidential candidates uh that run states uh that offer gender affirming care for minors without parental consent, I probably would not have believed you, but that's the world we're now living in.
That's where the American First Legal Center and their new parent and student action center is all about.
Gene Hamilton is with us.
He's heading this up.
How are you, Mr. Hamilton?
Welcome back to the program.
I'm doing well.
Thanks for having me on, Sean.
Would you have believed it, you know, 30, 40 years ago?
No way.
No way.
There's not a chance.
And it this it's it's really unreal because it's not just that one school district in California, right?
We know this is happening all across the country.
Every parent across the country is dealing with similar issues on a daily basis.
And so this new action center is precisely for those types of situations, like the clip you played.
Say that your daughter is attending school, and your school district has a policy that allows young men to go into the bathroom with her.
We have a template for you and an explainer and resources to be able to push back to file a complaint, uh asserting your child's rights under Title IX of the Civil Rights Act.
You submit this complaint to the Department of Education, and then they can act on it.
Um we another so in other words, whatever situation parents and students may find themselves in, you are providing a template for them to follow so that they can go through the proper procedure and fight back.
A hundred percent, Sean.
That is exactly what this is about.
So whether we're talking about Title Nine, whether we're talking about uh race discrimination under Title Six, whether we're talking about radical curricula being introduced into schools, improper surveys, uh soliciting their views on matters of sexuality and all kinds of other issues.
We are equipping parents with the tools that they need to fight back, to push back, to go through the proper channels to hold people accountable.
Because as great as it is, and as wonderful as it is that we have an administration in Washington, DC that finally supports and believes in the rights of parents across this country, there's only so much that they can do on their own.
And so what these tools enable parents to do is to push back at the local level and to also let the federal government intervene on their behalf where there are violations of students' rights.
Quick break right back more with Gene Hamilton.
He is the new president of America First Legal that was created by Stephen Miller.
He's launched a new service for parents.
It's called Parents and Student Action Center, so you can deal with the woke mob in your school district.
The final hour of the Sean Hannity show is up next.
Hang on for Sean's conservative solutions.
This coming March, it runs in exactly the opposite direction.
And it would be, I suspect, near unanimity in the room that trans athletes have no place in uh in the female category.
I don't think this is any question.
I just think it was a strange.
I mean, I felt I mean I was the reason I'm ashamed of my performance of that panel because I share your position a hundred percent, and I was cowed.
All right, we continue now.
Gene Hamilton is with us.
If you're having problems with DEI or a woke agenda in your public school, uh you want to you're gonna want to get in touch with the American First Legal Parent and Student Action Center.
We continue with its new president Gene Hamilton.
I think it's great that you're doing this.
I love that American First Legal even exists in the first place.
Uh this is definitely, definitely needed.
Um, but uh I I know it's it's kind of lonely for parents if if they're standing out there.
Mo a lot of parents just want to put their head in the sand, they don't want to be confrontational.
Most most parents are not like Linda, they're not as vocal.
Uh they're not showing up at school board meetings.
I never went to a school board meeting in my life, to be very frank with you.
You know, the only issue I had when my son was in sixth grade many years ago was I knew a science teacher wanted to show the kids Earth and the balance by Al Gore, and I said, My son will not be attending that class, and I'm sure his grade will not suffer.
And that was the end of that conversation.
That was it.
His grade did not suffer, by the way.
That's great, Sean.
Yeah, look, I I think parents like Well, you know, I want to know the sad part is uh I'm I'm gonna be very blunt.
Because I'm a public figure, that you know, there was a certain degree of of I'd even call it a natural fear that I might say something publicly.
And that gave me a lot more leverage than the average parent, which is unfair.
I don't deserve it.
But I also spoke up, you know, there were a couple of other parents that took my lead on it.
And they said, Yeah, well, if your son's not going, mine's not going either.
And it worked out for other people as well, but it's it shouldn't take that.
No, it shouldn't.
It shouldn't take that.
And what these tools are intended to do, and you can find them on our website.
If you just Google America First Legal Parent and Student Action Center, or you go to our X page, or you go to any of our other social media pages, you can find the links to these tools.
What these tools enable parents to do is to push back, but also there's a way that you can talk contact America First Legal, and our team will evaluate any case that's referred to us for potential legal action.
And so just to give you a couple of examples, we represent a student in her family in Fairfax County, Virginia, which is at the epicenter of some of this ridiculousness.
We also now represent in partnership with other lawyers, the two parents in Loudoun County, or the two students, two young boys who were punished by the school district for videotaping a girl going into their bathroom.
We let me ask you about this then.
Because I think, you know, and and I'm very aware of the case that you're talking about.
Um, yeah, because this is now moms confronted by a teacher for protesting boys in their daughter's bathroom, and I mean that's like almost standard fare.
Let me ask you about the Seattle case, where the school district there, all kids need to learn about gender and sexuality.
Parents are not allowed there to opt out their kids about opt-out requests.
Seattle Public School Schools works to provide a wide range of educational opportunities that reflect who students are, help them build empathy for others, and prepare them to be compassionate citizens of a diverse and changing world.
There is no option to quote opt students out of learning about particular identities or groups of people.
This guidance is reinforced by the state superintendent's office, the policies of other major urban districts, including states like California, New York, etc.
etc.
So you can't even opt your kids out legally if you're in Seattle.
Um I I'm sorry, doesn't that conflict with something called parental rights?
Yes, yes, it does, Sean.
And look, I suspect that the Seattle public school system is in uh the they're in the FA stage of uh the phrase, and the FO will come soon.
Uh because they are flatly wrong.
Federal law under the PPRA permits students to uh and parents uh to withdraw from this type of radical curriculum from being forced upon them.
They can opt out.
And the Supreme Court affirmed the rights of parents to be able to opt their kids out of this type of radical uh uh ideology in classes just earlier this year in a case, Mahmood versus Taylor.
So Seattle Public Schools, they might think that they're doing something, they might think that they're on solid ground, but with action from committed parents and with the right legal support, we can fight back and we will, and we can hold people like Seattle Public Schools accountable.
How can people get in touch with you?
Because we have to run.
Uh, go to our website, aflegal.org, and there's a contact us form everywhere and uh fill it out, and we'll be happy to hear from any parent.
All right, that's AFL.org.
We appreciate it.
Gene Hamilton, thank you so much for being with us.
It's a great, great service you're providing.
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