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Best of Hannity: Crime, School Safety, and Trey Gowdy - August 30th, Hour 3
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I pointed this out last night when we had former New York City mayor.
My affectionately refer to him as Comrade De Blasio.
Never thought we'd have Marxist commie Mamdani running and likely winning in New York City, but here we are.
It's got gone from bad to worse.
But, you know, he's been out there trying to make the argument no, no, no, there's more crime in red states than in blue states.
And I'm like, no, not true.
And I went over every major city with the most homicides per 100,000.
And you have Democratic mayors in every one of them.
Every single one.
An AP poll finds 81% of Americans see crime in major cities as a serious problem.
Of course, because they're living it every day.
We have this terrible school shooting in Minneapolis today.
And it wasn't even in the news for two hours before people are racing out there to politicize this.
And here's what infuriates me.
The same people that support defund dismantled no bail laws, reimagine the police and send in the social worker lunatics, are the ones that are the loudest voices here.
The ones that have supported open borders and sanctuary cities and states, unvetted, illegals, 12 to 20 million, Biden Harris, Majorcas, unvetted illegals, including known terrorists, murderers, rapists, uh, drug dealers, other violent criminals, cartel members, gang members, and now they're gonna lecture us.
No, uh, Nutty Newsom, you know, who does nothing to help the people in his state, the homelessness out of control, some of the worst schools in the country, the highest income taxes, property taxes, sales taxes in the nation.
They're still running, you know, tens and tens of billions of dollars in budget deficits.
Uh, can't get permits eight months later for the people in the Pacific Palisades to rebuild their homes, which many of which could have been saved if they have water and fire hydrants and a reservoir that was not empty.
And he we can't even make it through the first week of school without a mass shooting, and the GOP will do absolutely nothing uh while our kids are being gunned down.
What is he talking about?
Because, you know, it's it's people like Donald Trump.
All the last two weeks, all we've talked about is Donald Trump trying to prevent our nation's capital from being the number one capital city of any country in terms of the homicide rate at 41 and the and the books they've been cooking, we're now finding out per hundred thousand.
And then you've got circle back, Gensaki, when kids are getting shot in their pews at a Catholic school mass, and your crime plan is to have National Guard put mulch down around DC.
No, if you look at the numbers, you know, it we went for the longest period of time in our nation's capital because Donald Trump got sick and tired of it, and he proved with every crime category going down, which we've gone over ad nauseum, including the homicide rate.
We went the longest period of time when they were averaging nearly four homicides a week in in DC to two weeks of no homicides.
It's unreal.
And Trump has directed federal prosecutors to seek the death penalty.
Again, these same left wingers, you know, are against the death penalty in DC murder uh cases.
You have Senator Klobuchar blaming Republicans for the shooting, all the work we've done to ban these automatic rifles and do something when it comes to background checks, we keep getting thwarted.
It's not the answer.
I have over the the years since I've been on radio and television, 30 years of Hawks, started my radio career in 1987.
I've come to the conclusion and stated this many, many times.
If you want to prevent school shootings, I have a way to do it that won't cost taxpayers a dime.
If you have retired police and military that are empowered to volunteer to go to every school all across the nation, and they are there armed on campus.
They don't have to make a show of it.
They can dress dress in plain clothes and metal detectors in every school.
And the only cost it would be whatever other jobs they have, whatever retirement plans they have, no state taxes, no local taxes, no federal taxes, no death taxes if they do 10 years of service, 15 hours a week.
If you do that, every school in the country will be safe and secure, and school shootings will be a thing of the past.
Joining us is our friend Trey Gowdy, and he, of course, hosts Fox News Sunday Night in America.
He has a new novel out, by the way, and he's been a prosecutor, one of the most successful I've ever met in my life.
He's an incredible prosecutor.
His new book is called The Color of Death.
We have it on Hannity.com and Amazon.com.
Now today in bookstores all around the country.
Uh this is not new to you.
You have dealt with this in the course of your life and your career.
Do you like my idea?
And I are you as offended as I am at the defund dismantle reimagine the police and Sanctuary City and state liberals lecturing everybody within hours on school safety.
You know, Sean, I was wondering how long it would take to left uh to blame per President Trump for what happened in Minnesota.
And and the the children aren't even to the morgue yet before Jin Saki is trying to politicize it.
Uh what she's really doing, although she is doing it unwittingly.
Uh she's either not smart enough or too disingenuous to realize she's making a very powerful argument for the president to expand what he's doing in DC to other cities.
Because it actually dovetails with your idea.
There is no deterrent like police presence.
Nothing keeps people from committing crime, quite like the fear that they may be shot at first.
So you do the background checks, you have retired men and women, you have people who are willing to protect.
Look, I don't care if I have a kid there or not.
I don't want anybody's child harm.
I would volunteer to do it.
You have to deter people.
It can be a mock mark.
Squad car, it can be uniform or non-uniform.
You have to let people know there's going to be a consequence if you pick on this target.
So I like your idea coupled with what the president is doing in D.C., which proves police presence deters crime.
I saw it for 20 years.
Let's talk a little bit about your background and your career because a lot of people don't know.
You were a prosecutor.
Uh, you don't like to talk about it.
You're kind of a humble guy, uh, but you did not lose a single case that you brought uh uh brought before a court in terms of prosecution, did you?
Sean, I had I had really good cops, I had really good victims.
I was I was in by the way, why can't you just say it?
You're right.
I was uh I have a hundred percent track record.
I really did my job very well.
Well you can take credit for that because not many prosecutors can say that.
No, they can't.
But what makes me feel awful is I've seen really, really, really good prosecutors that just got bad juries or something went wrong, uh, and they got a not guilty verdict.
But they they were every bit as good, if not better than I was.
So it's not false humility.
It is the unpredictability of a jury.
But you're right.
I had a hundred jury trials.
Um uh about half of them were in federal court, and then half were in state court, and most of those were murder cases.
And some of them were death penalty cases, which means you got to try them twice and win twice, beyond a reasonable doubt.
So every kind of crime you can possibly prosecute, every kind of grief, every kind of victim.
I have seen it.
And I can tell you this, you're around the president more than I am.
But when he talks about the loss of life, whether it's war or whether it's crime, it is personal to him and it is real.
I mean, I'm not talking about a press conference.
I'm talking about sitting at a lunch table, he realizes no other right you have matters if you are dead or living in fear.
So the reason I became a prosecutor is because I want I think public safety is the number one function of government.
Number one function of government.
If you're not safe, what else matters?
If you're dead, what else matters?
So, yes, that is the job I hope that people will remember me for.
You've had a remarkable career that spanned decades.
You you're the best that's ever been at what you've done.
But I want people Well, I don't know.
I don't I don't I don't know about that part, but you're very kind.
Um, I will say this.
There are solutions to the problem.
You know, for example, there's a solution.
We have known terrorists, murderers, rapists.
I mean, one of the one of the I I think the lowest moment for Democrats is at the joint session speech with President Trump, and they couldn't stand for the families of Lake and Riley or Jocelyn Nungarry or the young man who up to that point had beaten cancer and became a secret service agent that night.
Uh, they couldn't stand for them because, oh, Donald Donald Trump is speaking out against their ridiculous policies.
But they have made this country unsafe, and they did so knowingly, and they purposely lied to the American people.
And we have known terrorists, murderous rapists, other violent criminals, cartel members, gang members.
I keep repeating it because it's worth repeating.
Uh we don't know these people.
And then they get, you know, they're aided and abetted by states like California, sanctuary state.
That's why hearing from Gavin Newsom, you know, who's become absolutely nutty.
Um, you know, makes my blood boil because they haven't lifted a finger to make their state safe and secure.
They allowed all these v unvetted people into the country, including that guy that killed three people, the truck driver, he got a license, commercial license in the state of Washington and the state of California.
They get all these benefits that cost the taxpayers out there billions and billions of dollars.
They have massive budget deficits as a result, and now they're gonna come out within an hour and lecture the American people on law and order and safety and security, and they're the same people that have been screaming bloody murder about Donald Trump for weeks.
I'll let you know a little secret about Governor Newsom and what a hypocrite he is.
It is against federal law to be in this country unlawfully and possess a firearm.
So when we ask for the list of people who have overstayed visas or crossed the border if you have their name, the answer is always no, from these blue states.
How in the world can we keep them from buying firearms?
Because that's always the first place they run to is gun control.
How can you keep them from buying firearms if you won't provide us with the names?
It is so disingenuous and hypocritical.
They don't want any guns, but it is already against the federal law.
You know, they always wanted more federal laws.
And our response, I remember sitting there with Jimmy Jordan saying, tell us how you're doing with the current federal laws that you have.
You know how few firearms prosecutions there were under President Obama?
The the lead cheerleader for more gun control.
And all we wanted to know is, okay, how are you doing with the laws you already have?
The list of people who cannot lawfully possess a gun is law, court martial, convicted felon, domestic abusers, people who have been adjudicated mentally ill, not in the country lawfully.
That's a great place to start.
Keep it you want to prevent homicides?
Look, I was a homicide prosecutor, but that means we've already lost.
Somebody's dead.
I want to stop the killing.
So keep the guns out of their hands.
He won't even give the names of the people here unlawfully.
How about how big of a hypocrite is that?
Well, I'm gonna tell you something.
As a matter of law, they don't keep uh any statistics at all in California as a sanctuary state or any of the sanctuary cities within California of illegal immigrant crime.
They don't keep any statistics at all.
And they do so by design.
They do it on purpose because they know it would outrage the citizens, the legal American citizens that live there if they knew the truth about illegal immigrant crime.
Um, which brings us to your new book, The Color of Death.
It's a dark mystery.
It's about a murder in a small South Carolina town, which is appropriate considering you're from South Carolina, and an assistant DA has got to pick up the pieces of his own life in order to solve the case, um, which I am predicting is is going to become a movie because it's so good.
Uh, but it's kind of ripped out of the headlines today.
So many series, movies, uh uh, you know, they don't get it right.
Television shows.
Prosecutors are there.
I can't tell you how many crime scenes I want you, Sean.
I was literally there.
I was telling my wife on the way to the airport, describing walking into a bank seeing three people having been executed who simply went to deposit a check.
And they happened to be there when the bank robber came in.
So prosecute I was at the crime scene.
I mean, the notion that we show up on the morning of trial and pick up a file is so wrong.
I mean, we we walked through this case with the homicide investigators from day one and the families.
The bond between prosecutors and the family.
You remember Susan Smith.
You and I are old enough to remember that case.
Absolutely.
The father of those two boys worked at the grocery store that I shopped at um every Saturday, and seeing grief etched on that man's face for all of time.
He will never ever recover from that.
We never talked about the case.
I didn't want to do that.
We talked about sports, we we talked about other things.
But if you want to see what grief and mourning does to even a young man, it is literally etched on his face.
And I want people to know that that bond is real.
You can get it by reading true crime.
I just I did it so long.
Sean, I I don't want to write true crime.
I want people to know that this wasn't real, but it could be real.
So it's the best of all worlds.
You get to experience it, but it didn't really happen to somebody.
Well, I urge people to get a copy of it.
It's in bookstores now all around the country.
It's on Amazon.com, Hannity.com.
It's called The Color of Death.
Uh, my friend, colleague Trey Gowdy, host of Sunday Night in America on the Fox News Channel.
Sir, thank you.
Appreciate you being with us.
Hope people will uh pick up the color of death bookstores all across the country.
Go to Hannity.com now.
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The years we have had some uh really a small number of congressmen and women that have been willing to do the deep dive investigative work of understanding the influence of deep state operatives and the impact that they have had on presidential elections and also a deep dive in terms of Joe Biden,
his cognitive state, what who knew what and when uh did he himself uh personally sign off on and authorize every commutation, every pardon.
Uh there has been, you know, one one committee that has dug deep into Verisma, which is, you know, zero experience hunter.
He goes on, good morning, America.
Have any experience in energy?
No.
Oil, no.
Gas, no.
Uh, Ukraine, no.
China, no.
No experience at all whatsoever.
Then why is he getting paid millions and millions of dollars?
There's no earthly explanation for it.
And then it gets into the whole issue of okay, was this information purposefully hidden from you, the American people, in the lead up to elections?
For example, uh, we know that John Brennan uh warned Barack Obama, warned the administration at the time that Hillary Clinton would hatched a plan about a Russia-Russia-Russia connection with Donald Trump that didn't exist, uh, but yet they let it go forward.
We know that James Comey, you know, knew that she had top secret classified information, way more than what they found to Mar a Lago on her servers, and bleach bit and uh, which basically is acid washing the the servers took place, and hard drives were destroyed with hammers and SIM cards were removed.
Uh that sounds like a cover up where I come from.
And then, of course, we learned from Tulsi Gabbard after all of this, you know, putting cinder blocks before an election on the scales of an election, and then using the Hillary Clinton bought and paid for dirty Russian dossier uh to issue not one but four FISA applications over the course of a year, not only destroying Carter Page's life, but also giving a backdoor to spy on the Trump campaign transition team and Trump presidency.
Uh, and then after, now we know from declassified information from Tulsi Gabbard that in fact the career senior intelligence officials that examined the 2016 election, found no evidence at all whatsoever that in fact, and I played this yesterday, that in fact Donald Trump knew anything, had any connection, or that the Russians in any way were trying to help Donald Trump, quite frankly the opposite.
They had damning information on Hillary Clinton that they were holding back because they were assuming that Hillary Clinton was going to win that election.
So, and then what happens?
Then Barack Obama, according to Tulsi's press conference, and we played it yesterday, you know, goes out there and and he's he's telling his top political appointees, the deep state figures, Brennan Clapper, Comey, others, you know, to come up with a new intelligence assessment.
And that's sabotaging Donald Trump as he's going into the White House and trying to serve the American people, a duly elected president.
Then on the issue of Hunter Biden's laptop, we know that the FBI verified its authenticity in March in 2020.
And then they went out of their way to pre-bunk that laptop, knowing it would be so damning to any re-election campaign or any election campaign as it relates to Joe Biden.
And sure enough, the meeting with big tech companies weekly throughout the entire summer.
They knew Rudy Giuliani's then attorney, Bob Costello had a copy of that laptop.
They knew that laptop would be made public.
Sure enough, it drops in the New York Post in October of 2020.
And then when those big tech companies that had been warned they may be victims of Russian disinformation, asked the FBI whether or not this is authentic and real and true, the FBI that had verified its authenticity would not answer them.
And therefore, that story got suppressed.
But the person that's been at the forefront of all these investigations is James Comer.
He's with the House Oversight Committee.
I know that I'm throwing a lot at you here, but I want to go over each investigation and try to get to the bottom of it.
Cash Patel, the FBI director has now opened up what is a grand conspiracy investigation.
And in that investigation, you know, was there a grand conspiracy on three separate elections to sabotage Donald Trump's chances of winning?
And then when he won in 2016, was there an attempt to sabotage an incoming president in your view, based on the evidence that you're you're reviewing every day?
Based on all the evidence I've seen, Sean, uh there was an effort by uh the entire deep state to first create a false narrative that President Trump's campaign was colluding with Russia, and then uh once he won to double down and triple down to try to create some kind of scandal uh to tie around his neck to limit his ability uh to do certain things,
especially foreign policy related, because again, the deep state, you know, uh a lot of their efforts and objectives pertain to uh foreign aid in other countries and military interventions in other countries and spending uh money from the military industrial complex.
And I think that uh Cash Patel and John Radcliffe and Tulsi Gabbard, along with the work on the House Oversight Committee and the and the Intel Committee when Devin Nunez was there.
I mean, all of this is is culminating now into where you're getting hard evidence that this was a coordinated effort, and hopefully, uh with President Trump's Department of Justice, we can finally see some accountability.
Well, I hope so.
Uh more particularly, you spent a lot of time on the issue of Hunter Biden and the monies that he was being paid by Barisma.
You talked a lot also about the WhatsApp message.
I'm sitting here with my father, and again, remember he said that his father had never no interest at all in his business dealings.
The laptop from hell uh paints a very different story because he's whining and complaining in his own words that he gives half of his income to Pops and that he pays for Pops' home repairs, and he's talking with his financial guy about what account he's gonna pay for Pops' home repairs.
And then he says, I'm sitting here with with my father in between everybody he knows of my ability to hold the grudge, talking to the head of the CEFC, which is the Chinese energy conglomerate, uh says, you're gonna regret not basically not paying us the money.
What happened three days later?
He got a wire.
Uh, he got a wire within 24 hours for 100,000.
That was money, just look, hey, just take this and uh the rest is on its way.
Uh and then in less than a week, he got a five million dollar wire by which, and I'm forward fast-forwarding here, he never paid any taxes on, according to the Irish whistle boards.
But but let's go back to that money.
The CELC was a was a on paper was a Chinese energy company, but it it folded after uh you know after the not long after that five million dollar wire, and all the assets mysteriously ended up in the in the possession of the Chinese Communist Party.
So I've always argued that that wasn't a Chinese energy company, that was really just a front for the the Chinese Communist Party.
And this was uh the money, and this is what Tony Bobolinski said under oath in a nationally televised uh committee hearing of the oversight committee, that he viewed that money as a as a bribe, that there was no energy deal.
So so the the thing that we discovered in the investigation channel, we talked about it on your on your TV show, was that the IRS knew what the Biden's were doing.
The FDI knew what the I the Biden's were doing.
You you had uh the Department of Justice knew what the Biden's were doing, but they turned a blind eye, and any time the investigation got close to Hunter Biden or Joe Biden, they were told to stand down by these deep state actors.
And I've always said I didn't believe they do it, did it that told the investigators to stand down on investigating the Biden because they liked Joe Biden.
I always felt like they did it because they hated Donald Trump.
And they didn't want to do anything to help Donald Trump because Donald Trump was a threat to the deep state bureaucracy.
And I'm I'm so hopeful now with with people like Cash Patel and John Radcliffe and Tulsi Gabbard that we can finally dismantle this deep state bureaucracy that has interfered in elections.
Well, that raises another question and another investigation that you're leading, and that has to do with whether or not Joe Biden actually personally signed these commutations and these pardons.
For example, do we know if he signed his own son's pardon, his brother's pardon?
Do we know if he signed the congenital liar Adam Schiff's pardon?
Uh we know the New York Times said that he set out standards and criteria for pardon, but but nobody seems to be able to determine, you know, who gave the okay for the autopen and whether or not Joe Biden personally signed off on every commutation and every pardon, John Solomon reporting uh that in fact his own Justice Department said that it probably wasn't even legal.
That's my interpretation of the memo he got two days before he left office.
That's exactly right.
The Department of Justice caught when that all of these pardons had been signed, as well as the executive orders during the Langduck period, had been signed by the autopen, and they were concerned that it wasn't gonna hold up in a court of law because you have to you have to sign physically sign a legal document.
That is just that is a standard.
And they were concerned, you know, you could probably get by Sean with using the autopin on one or two pardons, one or two executive orders, but he said thousands and thousands of pardons.
And you asked did he sign his his family's pardon.
He signed uh five of the six with the autopin.
The only pardon that was signed physically by Joe Biden was Hunter Biden's.
But his brothers and his sister-in-laws, they were all signed using the autopin, just like Adam Schiff's was and Dr. Fauci's was, and uh and Jamie Raskin and all of the scoundrels that that did the January 6th committee, all those pardons were signed using the autopin.
And what we found in our investigation thus far, we still have three more depositions to do, but but no one ever saw Joe Biden or heard Joe Biden authorize the use of the autopit.
And and and 75% of the time when the auto pen was used, Joe Biden wasn't, he was in the White House supposedly.
Why, if he was in the White House, did you just not have him sign the document?
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I will continue now with Congressman James Comer.
He is now slowly being proven right every day.
He is the chairman of the House Government Reform and Oversight Committee.
You've been interviewing all these people that were in the Biden White House, those that didn't plead the fifth, and there's been a number of those, but like for example, your last interview that I'm aware of was with Ian Sams, and here he is what a White House or State Department Communications Director only saw in person Joe Biden two times.
I mean, I was watching uh President Trump yesterday for three and a half hours on TV have a cabinet meeting, and he spends that much time on TV every single day.
I don't think Joe Biden can stay awake for three and a half hours.
So if it if that's the case, are you telling us that all of these pardons and commutations may now be be invalid?
I think there's a good argument to make them uh invalid.
I think if you take them to court, uh the court will declare them null and void.
And I would strongly encourage President Trump to do that.
Uh especially these executive orders.
I know there's a lot of focus on the pardon, but these executive orders, Sean, were done during the Lamduck period, but and that is the period between, of course, when when Joe when Donald Trump won the election and when he was sworn into office.
That's called the lame duck period.
And usually there's not much activity there, but there was a lot of activity with respect to executive orders.
And it and and we've always suspected that it was the staff that was Trump proofing the next administration.
They made it harder with these executive orders to eliminate the Department of Education.
They made it harder for Trump to make the federal employees to come back to work because you know there's still a big percentage of them that are working from home because of COVID of all things.
So they did a lot of stuff by executive order.
There's no evidence that Joe Biden had any knowledge or ever authorized the auto pen on those executive orders.
And usually when a president does an executive order, they do a press conference like what Trump did with his cabinet or what Trump does every day.
And Joe Biden never even issued a statement.
So it it it it I think there's a strong case, especially with this new evidence that Solomon reported, where there's there's an email now that his own the Merrick Garland Department of Justice said, My God, you can't use this auto pen on all these legal documents.
So I I think that uh you know once we get these these three or four more depositions uh in the book, give everybody their due process.
I think that you know the evidence is is pointing in the direction that Joe Biden had no knowledge of of that autopin and how it was being used and and who was pulling the strings.
I think we're getting there.
I know you've been working hard.
I know it's frustrating probably for a lot of people we don't get to the finish line, but I think we're getting closer every day uh in large part because of the hard work you're doing.
Uh we do appreciate the updates, uh, Congressman James Comer, Chairman of the Important House Oversight Committee.
Thank you for joining us today.
We appreciate your time as always.
Thanks for having me, Sean.
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