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Uh we welcome back Senator Tom Cotton.
He released a statement on the director of national intelligence, Tulsi Gabbard's announcement.
He said Congress created the Office of Director of National Intelligence to be a lean organization that used small staffs to coordinate across the intelligence community, execute specific important tasks, and today's announcement.
Remember earlier in the week, she was on Hannity and they took away 37 security clearances, number one.
And number two, they're cutting back the size and scope of what the organization is because they've gotten away from their original intent.
He said it will make the DNI stronger, more effective for national security for the president.
I look forward to working with Director Gabbard to implement these reforms and provide the ODNI with legislative relief necessary to ensure our intelligence community can focus on its core mission, and that is stealing secrets from our adversaries.
Anyway, Senator Cotton, great to have you back.
Thank you for being with us.
There's a lot of news that is unfolding as it relates to the deep state.
John Solomon will be with us at the bottom of the hour.
And his report on James Comey is very breathtaking in terms of they have smoking gun evidence, according to John, that, in fact, there were purposeful leaks of classified information to reporters coming from Comey directly himself.
He's going to lay out the case.
He's got all the documents.
He put them up on his website.
And then, of course, we have James Comer today finding out that, you know, with the most informative interview of his probe so far into this conspiracy that he only met twice.
Meaning Ian Sams, who testified today, only met twice with Biden, but he was saying, Oh, it's a conspiracy theory if you dare talk about his cognitive state.
And Mike Howell, president of the Oversight Project, is pointing out that Biden's own Justice Department was warning directly that these last minute pardons and commutations were not going to be legal, and he lists four specific reasons why, and nobody paid attention to them.
And on top of that, the FBI director Cash Patel said there was no constitutional basis, no lawful predicate for Biden's Justice Department and FBI to carry out the raid at Mar-a-Lago.
There's a lot going there's a lot going on.
Everything that we had been reporting on seems to be, you know, more and more evidence is coming out every day that it was all true.
Your reaction, all of it.
Sean, there certainly is a lot going on in this front, and I think it's important that the Democratic politicians and the bureaucrats who perpetuated the Russia collusion hoax are being exposed and will be held accountable.
Some of them, it seems like from what I've learned, may be held criminally accountable in certain cases.
But we also have the important reforms that Tulsi Gabbard uh announced this week.
Um the DNI has grown bloated and bureaucratic from its original uh intent of Congress twenty years ago.
This is something she and I discussed in her f our first conversation after President Trump nominated her.
We both addressed in her confirmation hearings, and at my committee, the intelligence committee passed legislation to help implement a couple months ago that I expect to pass Congress later this year.
I mean, if the the DNI does not collect intelligence, they don't have agents running around the world, they don't have satellites, they're supposed to be a coordinating function.
They're not supposed to be involved in politicizing intelligence, really giving directives on how agencies use their own internal assets.
Um but when you have as many people as the DNI has had in recent years, it does open up the possibility of mischief making when people don't have legitimate intelligence functions and responsibilities on the plate, then they start cooking up the kind of things that justify their jobs and their budgets and so forth.
So what Director Gabbard announced this week is an important first step.
We've been working with her closely.
Some some of the problems of the BNI, I'll confess, Sean, it's the problems of Congress over the last 20 years, imposing new mandates on them, creating centers that are superfluous or not related to intelligence at all.
And it's going to take our legislation to eliminate those offices and um those centers so the DNI can get back to its original focus of ensuring that intelligence is coordinated across all the agencies while letting those agencies do their primary job.
What do you make of Tulsi's declassification and and what we learned as it relates to the 2016 election?
And I I I asked her the other night on TV, I said, So is it your assessment that what happened in 2016 is that deep state actors tried to use phony information about a Russia connection to Donald Trump that they knew didn't exist so that it would help Hillary win the election?
And do you believe that after they lost the election and senior career intelligence officials ascertained with their intelligence analysis that there was no Trump Russia collusion and that Obama and his top lieutenants didn't like that assessment, and they came up with a new assessment that said just the opposite, and then they used the dirty Russian disinformation dossier that was bought and paid for by Hillary to write a new assessment to make Donald Trump look bad.
What do you make of all of that?
Is that criminal to you?
Sean, from what uh Tulsa Gabbers released and for uh as well, what John Ratcliffe at the CIA has released, and that comes from senior uh career intelligence officials at the CIA.
It appears that this rot came from the Democratic political appointees.
In fact, one of the uh batches of releases from the DNI about a month ago showed that you had career officials who are pushing back against um uh Jim Clapper and against uh j John Brennan and against Jim Comey, saying they shouldn't proceed.
So in some ways it it's the intelligence officials that were trying to protect the reputation and integrity of their own work and their agencies against these democratic political appointees.
Um I think that's what uh took a lot of people uh or what struck a lot of people is that it really started at the top.
And it seems that Sean had frankly gone all the way up to the very top with Barack Obama in the transition period of twenty sixteen and twenty seventeen.
And if it's proven out by FBI investigation and with Department of Justice prosecutors and any of these people were involved in violating the law, then certainly if the statute of limitations has not run, then they would face criminal liability, as they should for engaging in criminal misconduct.
Well, I mean, when you think of all of that, and then you factor in on if in fact we have deep state powerful actors that are using the intelligence community and you know what what should be the the greatest law enforcement agency in you know the entire world, uh the FBI, and they're putting cinder blocks on the scales of elections.
I would argue they did the same thing in twenty twenty because the FBI knew that Rudy Giuliani's uh attorney, Bob Costello had a copy of Hunter Biden's laptop.
They knew that story would would break.
They verified the authenticity of the laptop in March of 2020.
They went about the process in the summer of 2020 of meeting with big tech companies every single week warning them they may be victims of a disinformation campaign.
It may be about Hunter, it may be about Joe Biden.
And and then sure enough, the story breaks, and Mark Zuckerberg of of Meta uh then Facebook and Jack Dorsey of then Twitter, you know, call and say, Is this what you were warning us about?
And they would not tell them what they knew to be true, that it was authentic, that it was real, that they had verified such.
Uh is that putting cinder blocks on the scale of an election?
It it certainly sounds like it, Sean, and it is really important that we get to the bottom of all this, that all appropriate material is declassified and released.
Um, because it's not enough just to have people like Pam Bondi and Cash Patel in charge now and be confident that this is not going to happen again, at least for the next three and a half years.
It it really is necessary to expose what happened and hold those people to account.
Even if let's say a statute of limitations has exposed, hold them publicly to account, so it never happens again.
Um so no unelected bureaucrat or no democratic appointee in the future thinks that they can use law enforcement or intelligence agencies to influence domestic politics here in America.
It's pretty unbelievable.
And you know, now that we're learning from Cash Patel that the FBI r raid on Mar-a-Lago uh literally he determined that it was illegal, and he said, now's the time for accountability.
He said there was no constitutional basis, no lawful predicate for it.
And then, of course, uh one of the top stories of the day, the president now celebrating his victory over the you know, l over Letitia James and this ridiculous uh settlement of five hundred and fifteen million dollars uh as a you know relates to to a mortgage case,
which is unprecedented, and a judge that you know stood by a valuation of Mar-a-Lago of $18 million when it's when it's a billion to a billion and a half dollars, and they got away with all of that and all of the other law fair, the novel legal theory of Alvin Bragg, the rate of Mar-a-Lago, all of these things combined.
I mean, to me, that's more election interference.
That's more that their job then was to bloody up Donald Trump to make him, you know, uh to but to not to make render him not a viable candidate for president, in my view.
Yeah, Sean, uh to borrow a phrase from our democratic friends, it sounds to me like a threat to democracy.
And it's so funny that they always levy that charge against President Trump and against us when they're the ones who, again, over the last ten years have repeatedly used law enforcement and litigation to try to tar Donald Trump to try to convict him and imprison him for the rest of his life, or in the case that was just overturned today, to fine him a half billion dollars for what, Sean, taking out loans that he repaid.
I remember when that judgment first came down uh last year.
I was talking to a farmer in Arkansas, and he's like, What what are they even talking about up there?
You take out a loan, you repay it all.
Who's the victim?
I bet the banks are happy.
And they were happy.
Well, of course.
Well, that was the case.
I mean, it was uh in the case of the non-disclosure agreement.
It was a legal nondisclosure agreement.
It was put together by a lawyer.
It was labeled the legal expense.
The statute of limitations had run out.
It was a misdemeanor to begin with in the state of New York, even though the statute of limitations had run out.
And then to come up with this novel legal theory and then send the third highest ranking DOJ official from the Biden Justice Department to help out Alvin Bragg tells me they wanted that conviction as badly again to bloody up Trump and render him unelectable.
Yeah, now fortunately, Sean had backfired on them.
But again, it's just an example of how they need to be exposed so this never happens again.
They say they had a legal theory that gussied up what was a misdemeanor into a felony.
They never even adequately explained the legal theory.
The liberal judge that presided over this case and allowed the conviction to go forward or allowed the case to go to a jury at all never explained the legal theory, period.
They they would were willing to break any rule, any procedure, any custom, all in an effort to get Trump to bankrupt him, to convict him, to imprison him.
Thank goodness the American people saw through it all and did not allow it to influence their choice in the election last year.
All right, quick break.
We'll come back more with Senator Tom Cotton, great state of Arkansas, uh as we continue with him, and then John Solomon has breaking news regarding James Comey and the leaking of uh intelligence and information, classified information.
Uh, he feels he has smoking gun evidence.
He'll share that with us at the bottom of the hour.
Uh we'll full coverage of all of this on Hannity tonight on the Fox News channel.
Quick break, right back, we'll continue.
I would continue now with Senator Tom Cotton, great state of Arkansas with us.
You know, a lot of people listening to this show will think back and they'll remember investigations that we've had.
You know, Hillary Clinton's dirty bought and paid for dossier, uh, James Comey protecting Hillary with, you know, no reasonable prosecutor would prosecute, but then of course, a double standard occurred when Mar-a-Lago got raided, and she did not have the protections that Donald Trump did with the with the presidential uh uh authorization act, uh, where he had access to these these papers.
She never had the ability to take them with her.
Uh, the same with Joe Biden.
Again, a double standard, a dual justice system.
And I just wonder, you know, and I know my audience is wondering, uh, because everybody I talk to says, Do you think something's gonna happen this time?
Are people really gonna be held accountable for what they've done here?
Sean, I am because I have confidence in Cash Patel and Pam Bondi um to follow the law and to not break the rules of the Democrats did.
While being aggressive within the law.
Um Sean, I predict that if charges are brought against any of these dirty Democratic players, and and they happen to be happen to involve The charges that are so often been brought against Republicans over the past several decades.
Lying to Congress, lying to federal investigators, obstruction of justice.
You're gonna hear wailing and crying from Democrats and from liberals in the media about how this happens all the time and these are not serious actions and they're engaged in legal warfare when it's AOK against Donald Trump, or for that matter, against Ronald Reagan's uh appointees.
Or yes, George W. Bush's appointees.
It was all fine and dandy back then, and it was a matter of high principle.
But when it's going when the shoes on the other foot and Democrats are being held accountable for things like lying to federal investigators or obstruction of justice or conspiracy against civil rights, then all of a sudden those charges are not gonna be serious at all in the case where everyone does it, and Donald Trump's DOJ under Pam Bondy and Cash Patel is engaging in outrageous misconduct conduct.
Just mark mark my word, Sean, when you hear that.
But I'm confident that Pam and Cash, if there are legal, if a legal case to be made, and it's colorable under the law and under precedent.
We'll move forward to hold these people accountable.
It is amazing that these you know, all this information that they didn't get rid of it.
These burn bags, they they left them there.
This this information, this paper trail, they left it there.
Uh they're supposed to be so clever and so smart.
You would think they would have covered their own tracks, but the discoveries that they're making every day, you know, frankly, take my breath away.
And as somebody who reported on all of these issues, I spent, you know, four years of my life uh reporting on Russia, Russia, Russia.
Uh, and and it even extends beyond that.
It is it is kind of breathtaking.
But uh Senator Tom Cotton, we always appreciate you being with us.
Thank you, sir.
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Uh, we welcome back the founder, editor in chief, chief investigative reporter, just the news dot com, John Solomon.
I will tell you in the last three, four weeks, he has been on a tear breaking one big story after another.
Uh I brought up a lot of news earlier, not the least of which is the president scoring that massive legal victory as then appeals court, tossed out that ridiculous half a billion dollar judgment.
Uh, that New York Attorney General Letitia James and and Judge Erdogan, who's still to this day thinks Mar-a-Lago's just worth a mere 18 million when it's well over a billion dollars.
Uh the FBI director, Cash Patel has determined the Biden FBI's Mar-a-Lago raid was illegal, as I said earlier in the program.
You have a top Justice Department prosecutor hinting that the New York Attorney General could avoid prosecution on uh mortgage fraud charges.
Uh interesting investigations going on between her and Adam Schiff.
Uh and Adam Schiff's, by the way, you know, last minute pardon may be brought into question as well.
Uh the president going out and you know, on on patrol in DC, if you will, Pam Bondi will join us tonight on Hannity to talk about that part.
Uh but we just have breaking at this moment on top of all of the news we've had today, John Solomon.
Uh I'm just looking at this report.
Uh prosecutors have secured evidence about James Comey.
Mr. Higher Honor himself that he authorized classified leaks, but decl but they declined charges.
And uh I'll let John tell you the story himself because he did all the deep digging and hard work and and he found all the evidence, and it looks like we have bombshell revelations from all I can see here, John.
Yeah, and this is a very big moment.
This is one of the deepest, darkest secrets that have been locked up in the vaults at the FBI and the Justice Department, and to the credit of Cash Patel, who dug these documents up and got them, and then to the credit of Pam Bondy, the attorney general, who worked hard to lift redactions.
These are heavily redacted documents.
We now know for certain that federal prosecutors ascertained evidence from the top lieutenants of James Comey, that James Comey uh had leaked classified authorized the leak of classified information to the New York Times, one of those leaks right before the election.
Clearly a leak designed to influence the uh election in uh 2016.
And I want to remind everybody to a famous moment right around the time that pr uh President Trump fired James Comey as the FBI director.
He was brought before the Senate Judiciary Committee, and Chuck Grassley pinned uh James Comey down.
He was asked by uh uh by uh Chuck Grassey, did you ever um uh have you ever been an anonymous source of news reports and matters relating to the Trump investigation or the Clinton investigation?
He answered, never.
Grassey then said, Did you ever authorize anyone else to be an anonymous source on these topics?
He said no.
And whether and then he was asked, was any classified information relating to President Trump or his associates ever declassified or shared with journalists, and Comey said, not to my knowledge.
In fact, he went on to say, I think leaks are a problem.
Well, let's tell you what the Postal Inspection Service and Federal Prosecutors found when they looked at that testimony and looked at a very specific leak to the New York Times.
They concluded that uh based on eyewitness testimony from James Baker, the former chief counsel to James Comey at the FBI.
Baker admitted.
He disclosed U.S. government classified information to the New York Times, and he did so because he had been instructed and authorized to do so by then FBI director James Comey, and he lays out how the instruction came down.
Comey tells his chief of staff, James Rabicke, James Rabicki tells Baker, go leak it, and then Baker goes leaks it to the New York Times.
That seems to directly contradict, uh directly contradict uh the uh testimony of James Comey in 17.
That's something that's well outside the statute of limitations.
But what isn't outside the statute of limitations is a knowing and willful and intentional leak of national security information.
There are certain statutes and certain conditions where someone can be charged up to ten years after a classified leak if it's knowing and willful.
Certainly what Baker and Rabicke are talking about is uh Comey knowing what he was doing and having people downstream from him do the dirty work.
Uh this is a bombshell.
It is big, it's in FBI documents.
We just put the documents up on our website.
Everybody can read them with their own eyes.
Now, what did we learn about why we didn't get accountability before this?
Uh it turns out that multiple people looked at this, including the U.S. Attorney's Office in Washington, D.C., under Donald Trump's first term, and the former special prosecutor, John Durham.
In both cases, they decided not to bring criminal charges, even though they had this pretty clear case of a leak and an emission of a leak and who was involved and who approved it.
I think we're gonna have a lot of fallout.
People are gonna wonder why did that happen?
Who made those decisions and is there anything Pam Bondi can do now to resurrect this case and and bring justice?
You'll get a chance, I guess, to ask her about it tonight on your show.
Well, let me ask you uh to answer your own question.
I mean, the obvious answer would be yes if the statute of limitations have not run out, if you purposefully are leaking classified information, and you're saying the smoking of gun evidence and it's in writing.
It is in writing.
Yeah.
The U.S. Postal Inspection Service was brought in to assist uh this investigation since the FBI couldn't investigate itself.
It is clear in this summary memo that the uh investigation established that uh James Baker did leak the information that James Comey uh through James Rubicke told them to do it.
Now they decided not to charge Baker and uh uh uh Rabicke, the two top lieutenants, but it is silent on the issue of why the authorizer himself, James Comey wasn't considered for charges.
I think that's something we got to do more work on.
It's gonna take us some time.
There are still some redactions in these documents.
There's still some classified information that we can't see.
Uh there will be lots of things that will, but there is a portion of the Internal Security Act of 1950 that does extend a statute out to ten years.
The things we have to know, which we can't tell from this is what was exactly the classified piece of information.
Is there any scenario where James Comey could declassify it himself?
Or did uh someone above him did a Barack Obama or a James Brendan or John Brennan or someone else tell him to leak the information.
We don't know that from these memos, but we do know one thing.
There was pretty darn good evidence to say James Comey didn't tell Congress the truth, and there was a classified leak that occurred in his inner circle, uh reportedly in this these documents, flatly stating James Comey himself approved that leak.
What do you make?
I mean, when you put all of this together, and and for example, what what Tulsi Gabbard was able to declassify, we learned, for example, that senior career intelligence officials uh had determined that there was no Trump Russia collusion.
Uh that was an early they they concluded that after the 2016 election.
Now we could b backtrack a little bit and and we could say, okay, there was no real reason why James Comey stepped up and said no reasonable prosecutor would prosecute, knowing the evidence was very overwhelming and incontrovertible as it relates to Hillary Clinton having top secret classified information on her servers in an attempt to cover it up by using bleach bit to acid wash the servers and the destroying devices with hammers and removing SIM cards.
Uh then James Comey's involvement, he signed three of the four Pfizer warrants, even though uh correct me correct me if my timeline is wrong, even though he was wrong, he was warned in August of 2016 not to use the dirty Russian disinformation dossier that Hillary paid for,
which became the bulk of information for the four Pfizer warrants, and they definitively knew not to use it by December of twenty sixteen, and James Comey was responsible for putting his signature on the first three Pfizer warrants.
Uh and there is a law, as as Greg Jarrett has pointed out many, many times, uh, that says if you give false information to a FISA court and you discover it immediately, your job is to go back to the court and tell them the information you deter that you had presented to the court earned turned out to be false.
They didn't do that.
Uh it seems like there's a lot of legal vulnerability for James Comey.
So maybe when I said back in 2016, 17 and 18, and it would do in Russia, Russia, Russia every day, and you are such a big part of the coverage.
I said, James Comey, just remember you have the right to remain silent.
Maybe I wasn't so wrong.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Maybe you should have listened to a few more Taylor Swift songs and maybe not done so many leaks.
We'll see.
Uh yeah, listen, I I think today is a a day to take a pause and realize how much the steel curtain that kept us from understanding the weaponization machinery has broken, and particularly in just the last few weeks, but certainly over the last three or four years.
We now know that the verdict against President Trump in the civil case was constitutional.
We knew it, but now we have a court saying it.
We know that there were massive leaks.
We know the intelligence community hijacked an assessment and tried to come to a false collusion to carry out a political outcome.
We know that Hillary Clinton authorized the whole Russia occlusion hoax, and that the FBI knew in advance, and so did President Obama, that she had authorized this dirty trick, and still the FBI and the U.S. Intelligence Committee participated in that dirty trick, legitimized that dirty trick, dragged the country through three and a half years of unnecessary turmoil over a scandal that never had, as John Durham told us an iota of evidence to back it up.
And now we know that we had a group of leakers, people in high senior positions who looked in the eye and told us we could trust them who were leaking information.
And those include, according to the evidence that the FBI believed it had, Adam Schiff, the chairman of the House Intelligence Committee, James Comey, the FBI director.
We may have others before we're done, based on what I'm seeing in these memos.
So uh the great steel curtain that hid all of this from us has crumbled.
And the only question left for us is will there be a prosecution or a penalty so powerful that it creates an incentive for future people not to do this?
Right now, there's no deterrence.
If so many people got away with the things we've now chronicled, if I'm sitting and I'm a deep stater who has political motives, I might not be afraid to do something similar in the future.
That is the moment that Pam Bondi that Cash Patel that Tulsi Gabbard that President Trump have on their plate right now.
They could create a deterrence to make sure they make an example of a few people, create an enormous penalty.
We could very well see uh the sort of uh deterrence that's a very good thing.
Well, look, let me ask you this.
Is there three presidential elections, John Solomon?
In which we have deep state actors abusing their power to try to influence elections in this country.
That's that would be the grand conspiracy investigation to me.
May sound complicated, but it's really not.
It's not because it's it it's a very simple pattern.
Obstruct lawful criminal investigations of Democrats who may have done something wrong.
Hillary Clinton with her classified emails, Hillary Clinton with her foundation, Hunter Biden with his taxes, Hunter Biden with his corruption, Joe Biden with his classified documents.
Those were the three uh major investigations that were Democrats had enormous liability and they got a pass.
And they occurred and could have infected the 2016, the 2020, and the 2024 election.
What happened on the other side of that equation?
Donald Trump was pursued almost always on false or incomplete allegations for things like uh Russia collusion, Ukraine impeachment, classified documents in the raid on Mar Lago.
And so the case is very simple.
Well, uh, as complicated as all the facts are, and the timeline is it's very simple.
A wash rinse repeat cycle of protecting and obstructing an investigation of a Democrat so that they don't get in trouble, then projecting a fake scandal or a questionable scandal on a Republican.
In so doing, you're obstructing justice in the Democrats' investigation, and then you're violating the civil liberties of the Republicans who are falsely accused and put through a process.
I think that is what we heard today.
Remember what the uh federal the uh New York appeals court ruled today, that what Judge Edgeron and what Letitia James did wasn't just an error.
It was a violation of the Eighth Amendment of the U.S. Constitution.
It is civil liberties, a civil rights violation.
That is the theory that Cash Patel opened up this case in.
That's the theory that Harmeet Dillon talked about on my show the other day.
The people now about to face criminal investigation could be charged with crimes under the same civil rights laws that we used to prosecute crooked uh cops and dirty cops in the South in the 1960s who were violating the rights of black Americans in the South.
Those laws could very come around and could very much come around and used in this conspiracy case.
John Solomon, just the news.com.
All these documents are available, just the news.com, founder, editor in chief, chief investigative reporter.
We'll have more on this breaking news tonight on Hannity.
Also, James Comer will be on.
Pam Bondy will be on.
We're gonna get to the bottom of it in a way that nobody else in the media will.
John, great work.
You've been on fire lately.
We appreciate you sharing it with us.
Thank you, sir.
Good to be uh spending time with you.
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