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Holding The Left Accountable - August 11th, Hour 2
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Hour two, Sean Hannity Show, toll-free on numbers 800-941 Sean, if you want to be a part of the program.
So many issues to get to with former Speaker of the House, New Kingrich, who is with us.
Mr. Speaker, great to have you back.
How are you, sir?
I'm doing great, and I'm always delighted to have a chance to chat with you.
I love you say that, but you really don't mean it.
I know that for a fact.
I've shown it on TV before.
I'll show it on TV again tonight.
And it shows all the different capitals around the world from Uruguay to Baghdad to Nigeria, Panama City, Panama, Brazil, Costa Rica, Colombia, Mexico, Mexico City, you know, Lima, Peru, Ethiopia.
So it also has with it the homicide rate.
The top capital homicide rate by far is Washington, D.C. with 41 per 100,000.
And the next highest is Uruguay, 16.1 per 100,000.
The next highest is Baghdad, 15.2.
And it goes all the way down to Istanbul, Turkey at 1.8 per 100,000.
And so President Trump announced this morning that he's going to federalize DC police and deploy National Guard troops in an effort to keep people alive in our nation's capital and fix what has not been dealt with by local officials.
People like Al Sharpton are calling President Trump's crackdown on DC crime dangerous and disgusting.
I actually think keeping innocent people alive is a good thing to do.
Uh a healthy thing to do.
And the fact that the president cares and what you what what what is the alternative?
They've had every chance in the world to fix this on their own.
They've decided not to do it.
They don't care.
Defund, dismantle no bail laws, you know, rules the Democratic Party today.
Well, look, first of all, Washington is the national capital.
And every American should be able to visit Washington safely.
And it should be non-negotiable.
And it's ultimately a federal responsibility.
Unfortunately, like many city governments, uh, the D.C. government but through co corruption, incompetence, and ignorance, is unable to solve these problems.
Uh and I think the president was doing exactly the right thing.
When I was Speaker of the House, uh working with people like Congressman Tom Davis, we profoundly overhauled the city of Washington.
We changed his tax code, we changed his education system.
Uh we've uh had a we had an audit and overhauled it.
We strengthened his police force.
Um, and we launched what we became a boom in terms of people moving into the city, businesses moving into the city, which lasted until the decay of DC City government, the level of corruption, uh, which is endemic to a lot of these big cities.
When you look at New York, you look at Chicago.
Uh, these are cities who's just plain corrupt.
Uh, and the result is they're dominated by big government socialists who have radical values, who favor the criminal over the innocent.
Uh they favor uh basically organized crime over the police.
Uh, and somehow, and this is where people like like Sharpton just frankly mystify me.
Uh saving innocent people from being killed, saving innocent people from being raped or mugged.
Uh it strikes me, the bias ought to be in favor of the innocent, not the criminal.
And yet you find some of these people who just can't help themselves uh in their commitment uh to to weakening society.
You have, you know, people like uh Mandami, the big government socialist in New York, running for mayor, saying basically uh he would replace the police with uh pacification people who would come by and would be helpful, they'd be helpful in a positive friendly way.
Well, you start dealing with these criminals, uh pacification people are just gonna get killed.
Uh they're not gonna pacify anybody.
And you have you have rule things like uh no bond laws which allow people to go right back on the street where this which is really a reversion to the world that made Clint Eastwood in the 1970s, where you know, you'd it would take you longer to fill out the paperwork than they'd actually be in jail.
Uh and and I think that this whole model on the left uh has been extraordinarily destructive, and what the president's doing is exactly right.
Well, I gotta tell you something.
Uh I agree the pushback is bewildering to me because the idea is to keep people alive.
It's not about power, it's about safety, it's about security.
And and honestly, you would think it would you would welcome more of a police presence, especially from the party that you know is so against violence and insurrection, although they did vote for a vice president that when we had five hundred and seventy-four riots that killed two dozen Americans, injured thousands of cops, and caused billions in property damage, did go on with Stephen Colbert and say uh the rioters won't stop, shouldn't stop, and we're not gonna stop supporting them.
Um let me ask you on the issue because now all of these blue state, you know, leaders, or if you want to call them leaders, you have Kathy Holkel and and J.B. Pritzker and Gavin Newsom and others, you know, they're they're up in arms over the issue of Texas and redrawing their their congressional districts.
Uh the only problem is in every one of these states we find that gerrymandering has been mastered by the Democratic Party.
Now Republicans are just doing what Democrats have successfully done, the model that they have they have mastered, and now they're all up in arms and they say they're gonna fight fire with fire here.
There's no more gerrymandering left to do.
I don't think they can do much.
Look, I loved the governor of Massachusetts because apparently nobody had told her that there are no Republicans you can gerrymander.
I mean, as you point out, there are literally no Republicans in the House, so the in Massachusetts, so she can't fight fire with fire.
She is the fire.
I mean, they've already cheated.
And and uh ironically, as you probably know, uh the term gerrymander occurred in eighteen twelve in Massachusetts, when the Federalists who are desperately trying to survive and ultimately failed, the Jefferson the rise of the Jeffersonians, uh the Federalists in Massachusetts wrote this map, and one district, the guy said, gee, that looks like a salamander.
And another guy said, No, no, that's a gerrymander because it was Eldridge Jerry who'd drawn the map.
So gerrymanders go all the way back to Massachusetts in eighteen twelve.
And I think it's ironic as you point out.
And California is bad.
Um Massachusetts is bad.
Uh these New York is bad.
All of these states have worked overtime to rig the game.
Uh and the fact is uh that that uh this is this is a fight that is important.
I mean, I'm not quite sure how the Texas because they do have to get the Democrats back if they have a quorum, so I'm not quite sure how they're gonna pull that off.
But what uh Governor Abbott's trying to do in Texas, for one thing, probably almost guarantees that the Republicans will retain control of the House uh in two thousand twenty-six.
Well, I hope so, because I think otherwise we're gonna face nothing but two years of never ending nonstop impeachment, impeachment, impeachment, and all progress for the country is gonna come to a sh a screeching halt.
All right, quick break, right back.
We'll continue more with former Speaker of the House, Newt Gingrich, then we'll get to your calls coming up eight hundred, nine four-one Sean, if you want to be a part of the program.
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All right, let's continue now with former Speaker of the House, Newt Kingridge.
Then we'll hit the phones, 800-941-SEAN.
Um so I will be headed later this week to the great state of Alaska.
Interestingly for me, the only state I've never been to.
And I'm obsessed with Alaska.
The fact that I haven't been there is unconscionable, but I'm just obsessed with the rugged individualism.
I'm obsessed with Life Below Zero, the TV show and Deadliest Catch and other TV show about crabbing in the Bering Sea.
Um so I'm kind of excited to go there, but there's a bigger issue in play here, and that is the Trump Putin summit.
I would put the odds at about 25% that Trump is gonna have to pull a Reagan and say Niet and walk away from the table because Putin has shown no willingness to show any compromise.
And the sad thing is this is this is Joe Biden.
This is to me is Biden's war.
This happened on his watch.
Biden watched the troops and the military equipment being moved to the Ukrainian border, and when asked about it, said, Well, what are you gonna do?
And he said, Well, it depends if it's a minor incursion or not.
And I thought that was a horrible answer.
So Putin was able to build up his military.
It was obvious he was going in.
So and right now, I mean, let's be very frank about it.
Europe is not stepped up.
Now Trump is selling weapons to the Ukrainians.
They have fought valiantly.
I do believe Putin's a murdering dictator thug, but that there really is no good answer for Ukraine at this point that I see.
Well thoughts.
I don't know.
I mean, first of all, I think the odds of Trump not getting a deal this week are probably more like 70 to 80 percent.
Um Putin still is not convinced that he can't win.
Uh and he thinks he can hang tough, lie to Trump, and continue to try to fight.
He tried he's trying to offer a totally one-sided truce in terms of air aerial power, um, which tells me that the Ukrainian long-range uh use of drones is going to really impact the Russian defense system.
Uh and I actually think that the combination of American capabilities and European capabilities, uh we are very likely to wear down the Russians.
Yeah, not to force them into a decisive defeat, uh, which would which would be very dangerous because they do have six thousand nuclear weapons, but to force them into a recognition uh that they can't uh they can't claim territory.
I mean, the real question here is gonna be uh does Putin get to claim a victory by keeping land while not allowing the Ukrainians to keep the land they've occupied, because the Ukrainians deliberately set out to occupy a piece of Russia to have a bargaining chip.
Well, I mean, if we agree to a totally one-sided deal where Putin gets to keep what he stole, uh, but but Zelensky has to give back the area that they've occupied.
First of all, I don't think Zelensky will agree.
I think he and the Europeans will say to help you.
The problem is I don't see a scenario where Zelensky can win this war.
I don't think Europe has the commitment to back them.
They have proven me to be right heretofore.
And I I like that President Trump's now putting sanctions on him.
Uh I like the fact that he's selling weaponry so they can continue to fight valiantly.
Uh I'm I concede up front that Putin's a murdering dictator thug.
I just don't see a deal that would emerge that's not going to include land handed over.
The issue for Ukraine to me, the what the negotiation negotiated settlement has to be about is security and and and long-term security.
Sure, but but uh but other since Russia also will not allow European troops to be on the on the border, uh you have to ask yourself how how do you get security?
I mean well, first of all, it was Bill Clinton that took away Ukraine's nuclear weapons.
That was stupid on their part, but looking back through the prism of history.
Now the question is, can they build up enough military might that if another invasion occurs that they have enough of a deterrent to stop them?
And well, I think that's largely a function of our willingness to give them advanced weapons.
And or to sell them advanced weapons.
I mean, look, uh you and I probably disagree in that I think if the United States wanted to, we could supply Ukraine with enough very advanced weapons that they they would cost the Russians an enormous amount.
And if you combine that with Trump's proposed sanctions, uh you really can begin to put a vice on Putin.
And and uh I guess uh Sean, part of what I mean, and I I'll be curious to see how Trump deals with this, because uh I believe you never go into a negotiation from a position of fear.
Uh oh, well, Donald Trump doesn't have fear, so that's not gonna be a problem.
Right.
Well my point is you see you walk in and Putin says says something outrageous, you comfortably get up and walk out.
Which is what he did, remember to to Kim Jong-un uh in uh I think I I can absolutely see that unfolding on Friday.
Right.
And just say, you know, call when you're serious.
And I think then I think second, he should Trump should not accept any agreement Friday or this weekend, even if he should say that that if it is a decent offer, he should say that's a very useful offer.
Let's meet next week and get Zelensky in, and let's the three of us talk it through.
But I think it's very important.
Look, Ukrainians have for four years been the victims of a vicious, deliberate campaign, which targeted civilians, killed innocent people, killed children, and I don't think we should impose on them.
I think we ought to say, you know, Putin has made an interesting proposal.
Let's get the three of us together, let's talk it through.
What'll counter according to J.D. Vance, I mean Zelensky may actually be in Alaska.
We'll find out.
Well, I thought I think that'll be uh it would be very cool if Trump said, Oh, by the way, I brought my good friend here.
Uh Zelensky walked in the room.
We'll see at that point if Putin would get up and walk out.
But I'm Well, uh I I'm listening I'm with you.
The country does not have an appetite for a forever war or a proxy war, which is the the situation that Joe Biden created.
I mean, we were providing all the weaponry, hundreds of hundreds of billions of dollars, and we can't be in that position either.
It's I mean, it's very nuanced, very, very difficult, and with threading a needle and uh however peace in Europe would be a good thing, and the effort is certainly worth it.
But we'll you know, we'll find out what happens.
Uh Mr. Speaker, we wish you were gonna be there.
Be a lot of fun to see you.
Uh thank you for being with us.
Uh I think you should call the president and tell him.
I know you're good friends with him.
Uh eight hundred nine four one Sean, if you want to be a part of the program.
You know, the media scene is getting like crazy.
I don't pay that much attention to it.
Um, I've never heard of this star.
Uh Jennifer Welch from Bravo.
Did you ever hear of this person, Ethan?
It's Linda's birthday today, by the way.
Linda is off birthday.
I have never heard of this person, no.
Okay.
So she's had it with Donald Trump supporters who have had the nerve and audacity to dine at foreign-themed restaurants featuring Indian Chinese Mexican food or people that go to a gay hairdresser if they truly believe the president's aim to rid the country of illegal immigrants.
Instead, she is a very good thing.
So she wants us to discriminate.
She wants people to discriminate.
No, it's even worse than that.
She wants to get your for all of us to get our fat asses over to Cracker Barrow, which is not a bad idea because I love Cracker Barrow.
Cracker Barrel's awesome.
But now when I used to eat pancakes, because they have real maple syrup, I loved it.
Uh the other thing I used to love is their meat love.
It was delicious.
Amazing.
Um the problem is is like everybody else that thinks they know conservatives, they don't.
They or if they think, you know, they're so wrapped up in the Trump derangement syndrome.
Um Donald Trump is against let me define this very clearly, illegal immigration.
I am for legal immigration.
And I don't really care where you come from.
Just do it legally.
Part of the legal process should include a background check to make sure you don't have radical associations post-pandemic.
We probably should have a health check.
And issue number three is we've got thirty-seven, thirty-eight trillion dollars in debt, and you can't be a financial burden on the American people, so you have to show that you're going to be able to financially fend for yourself.
I don't think that's a big big deal.
I don't mind being ordered though to go to Greckerboro.
Newsbusters put out, you know, I don't pay attention to all these other news outlets because and neither does anyone else, to be very honest, but when you find out what they're saying, I mean, I knew that they were talking about, you know, alligator Alcatraz, which is basically a prison, and then it's a temporary prison before you deport people that didn't respect our laws on borders or sovereignty.
But again, if you go through that three criteria that I laid out, and you come through the country and you come into the country legally, I'd even be in favor of expediting the process and make it eat making it easier for people.
However, you should have to pay for your own process fees like every other country.
Um, but you know, the liberals just say these are concentration camps or internment camps.
At MSDNC, I don't know who this person is.
Tiffany Cross asserting that the government is disappearing people and transporting them to concentration camps.
Uh conspiracy theorist Rachel Maddow tell telling her viewers Trump is consolidating dictatorship in our country over at CBS, Seth McFarland, whoever he is, admitted that he's more scared of Trump supporters than the shooter that tried to kill the president.
For those of us there, it was such a horror because you saw an emerging America.
I got put on trauma leave, not because of the shooting, but because of the reaction of the people.
Well, I'm not I'm trying you're you have PTSD.
You're you're now what, taking leave from work and you weren't even shot at?
It was the president that got shot.
You know, then on MSDNC, same thing.
We're normalizing the disappearing of people and sending them to concentration camps.
How does NBC allow this to go over the air?
How?
Joy Reed, MAGA wouldn't even consider itself an insult to be called fascist.
Well, it's it it would be an insult to anybody if it had any real meaning.
I mean, they throw this Nazi fascist, Hitler, Mussolini, Stalin nonsense around every day that it it's lost any impact.
You know, where's Trump on the scale of one to Mussolini?
You got over at MSDNC, some weekend host that they have over there.
Republicans lost their souls.
New York Times staff writer Susan Glazer on PBS's Washington Week with the Atlantic.
Thank God we're not funding that any them anymore.
Uh Jennifer Rubin.
GOP is turned into the fascist party cult of a great leader that's attacking our democracy.
You know, we've now gone through this for 10 years.
Their whole closing argument in the 24 election was racist, fascist, Nazi, Hitler, Stalin, Mussolini.
You know, Chuck Todd.
Trump administration has turned CBS into state TV.
We don't even know what their programming is.
But they just continue.
They go on and on and on.
Jimmy Kimmel sobbing over the re repulsive liberals driving away the Democratic Party.
Now he's talking to Sarah Silverman and on her podcast, another Trump hater, and they criticize those who continue to shun Trump voters who are now expressing regret for supporting the president.
And they mentioned Joe Rogan in particular.
I'm not so sure that Rogan is that anti-Trump, but anyway, we know Kimmel has driven his show into the ground.
There's no way that show's making money.
And if you lose audience to the extent, I mean, there's an event flow to rating seasons for all for everybody in television.
I've done this now 30 years.
Know all about it.
And that's why you don't get too high, you don't get too low, you're constantly making adjustments to anybody's show.
But the reality is these late night comedy shows, as Jay Leno rightly put it, they've alienated right out of the box half the country because it's not even it's not humor.
It's not funny.
They stop being funny.
And when you stop like John Stewart can be funny.
Bill Maher is funny.
They're more honest.
They'll they'll take on their party.
Rosie O'Donnell predicts ABC will cancel the view.
If fake news CNN wants a perfect example why nobody watches them, Dana Bash was, you know, had an interview with Bernie Sanders over the weekend and just did, you know, telling him how much she admired uh his vigor and intensity when asking about a 2028 run.
And I'll say this about Sanders.
One thing you can say about him.
Unlike Joe Biden, I mean, he's as sharp as he was 10, 12 years ago, but he's like 80 years old.
Something that's sure you have seen a Gallup poll.
Did you see this Gallup poll?
Yep.
And what the Gallup poll found was that you are one of the most widely admired Americans.
And I believe you're only second to the Pope.
You want me to declare my candidacy for Pope?
I don't think I don't think that you're eligible for a lot of reasons.
I won't do that.
Um I watched you tonight.
I've watched you for a very, very long time.
Um you're obviously still full of uh of vigor and intensity for for the things that you're passionate about and have been for decades.
Is there another presidential run in you?
Oh God.
Let's not worry about that.
I am going to be 84 years of age next month as a matter of fact.
So I think that speaks for itself.
Grandpa Bernie's not running.
I found this an interesting question.
MSDNC host interviewing other MSDNC hosts, Jen Saki, if she ever worries that President Trump or his administration is coming after you.
Um Ethan, how many times during the last administration did my personal private text messages show up and get talked about for hour after hour after hour on MSDNC or fake news CNN and every other news source?
Your text went viral a few times because they released them, and it was really funny because it was genuinely you, and everyone was shocked that you literally text and say things privately that you say on air because all of the rest of them are fake.
Well, I mean, this is the point.
No, no, nobody on any of these channels cared at all that my personal private text messages in any way were made public.
I mean, they all get to comment on them.
I don't get to see, and nor would I want to see their personal private text messages, nor would I want to see the government weaponized against any any liberal um uh uh commentator or they they're not journalists, they claim to be journalists, they're not journalists.
And the double standard is is breathtaking to me.
And it also implies, oh my gosh, he saw it sounds just like his monologues.
He must really believe this stuff.
I'm like, does that mean is that predicated on the idea that you don't believe what you say?
All right, quick break.
We'll get right back to our phones, toll-free.
It is 800-941 Sean, if you want to be a part of the program as we continue.
Back to our busy phones, 800-941 Sean on number.
Mike in Colorado.
What's up, Mike?
How are you?
Glad you called.
Thank you.
You know, when it comes to the conspiracy to link Trump to Russian collusion, the quote rational analysis says don't expect charges against anyone involved for you know there's two major reasons presidential immunity and statute of limitations.
Both are good arguments for how things are now, but you know, however, how did they go after Trump on E. Gene Carroll?
They wrote a brand new law.
It was somewhat generically written, but it was actually specifically written for one purpose to allow them to bypass the statute of limitations and go after Trump.
How they go after him on the check display.
But they did the same thing, the whole issue of you know, the this the non-disclosure agreement, and then they came up with that novel legal theory turning what is in New York a misdemeanor into a 34 federal count indictment in uh the most liberal jurisdiction in the country uh was insane.
And not one person cared at all because you know, both Letitia James and Alvin Bragg ran on a get Trump platform.
Phrase that another way, they uh erroneously tied the payment to Kim Finance uh campaign finance laws so they could go after him in a way that was not previously legally available.
All I'm saying is the precedent is made.
The left's been pulling this crap for so long, they now think it's their right.
They're bullies.
The only thing a bully understands is the proverbial punch in the face.
You ever see those uh uh equalizer movies with Denzel?
You know, there's this one scene where he's on a train and he Oh, he's a great actor.
I like him a lot.
He tells the guy there are two types of pain in this world, the kind that hurts and the kind that alters.
The left needs to feel the kind of pain that forces them to alter course, or this will never stop.
It'll only post if they if they're not held accountable for their wrongdoing, which I believe the evidence will show.
J.D. Van said this weekend he thinks there will be indictments.
Um I don't want to tell you that because I don't want to overpromise and underdeliver.
But it's in my view, there's enough evidence pre uh there's a prima facie case against a lot of people.
And I think they should all be held accountable.
Now remember, statute of limitations apply to yes, some of this, but if there's if there is a grand conspiracy investigation, then that would that would um circumvent the statute of limitations because it's a much broader investigation.
I I and that'd be great.
But if that doesn't work, find another way.
There's they can find ways to get to go after us, we can find ways to go after them.
You know, as long as we don't do what they did and just make it up whole cloth.
I mean, that's what that that's the opposite.
We we are we believe in our constitution, and we've got to return to constitutional order.
However, we ha we should apply the law equally in this country, and if there's evidence of wrongdoing, which I believe is emerging, then I believe with all of my heart that they should be prosecuted.
I do.
We'll see what happens, though.
Anyway, thanks, my friend.
800-941 Sean, if you want to be a part of the program.
Lynn is in Indiana.
Hey Lynn, how are you?
Glad you called.
Hey, Sean, how are you doing today?
Hey, I just want I'm good, man.
What's up?
I just want to call and tease you a little bit.
On on Friday, you had that guy on there that said he was a Marine and you didn't know any sensitive Marines, and I just got one name for you.
It's Carville.
Was Carvel in the Marines?
Is he a Marine?
Oh, he always wears that Marine shirt, but I think he was in the Marines.
He's usually wearing an LSU baseball cap and an LSU shirt.
He's a huge LSU fan.
I know I know because I've been on the road with him.
I will tell you some fun times I had was debating Carville with Tim Russert moderating.
We had good times together.
We did.
And we never agreed.
I just, you know, kind of rolled my eyes at what he said and wouldn't wouldn't take debate or pay attention.
He'd make his points, I'd make my points.
Russett was a great interviewer.
He knew the he would he would keep the crowd engaged.
He was really great at his job.
Yeah, well, I just think uh he he's got uh Trump derangement syndrome.
He's gone so woke he uh but he's pretty sensitive now.
I mean he he's yeah.
Carvel's lost his mind.
I mean, now I'm calling him crazy Carville.
The guy that I knew back in the day that worked for Clinton, I don't know.
He's he's gone.
Yeah.
You know, now he's he's he's talking about all sorts of crazy stuff.
We're gonna pack the courts, he was saying last week, and DC and Puerto Rico statehood, if we get power back.
I mean, now it's like crazy Carfell.
I don't know what happened to the guy that you know was working for them for a president that said the era of big government is over, the end of welfare as we know it.
He's gone to the crazy side.
Yeah, well, I just that was funny.
And uh Katie needs a raise, so there you go.
Uh why are you sucking up to Katie?
Why does everyone suck up to Katie?
I know why, because you think it's gonna get you on the air more.
That's why.
She's very nice on the phone.
She's very nice.
All right.
I can't really argue with that part.
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