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The Future of Conservatism - August 8th, Hour 3
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So I I'm still fascinated with the Sydney Sweeney controversy.
And I don't think there should be a controversy.
I mean, the idea that you have a young, attractive person, male or female that is put in an ad campaign should not really ever be news.
The idea that it's a a gene commercial, in this case, it's American Eagle Jeans, should not be controversial either.
And the fact that they do a playoff of, oh, okay, we have an attractive young person and they're doing a gene ad, and oh, he has great genes.
Uh oh, what a play on words, and somehow these lunatic woke, you know, triggered uh leftists are are trying to make the claim that this is eugenics, this is Nazi Germany.
Now, simultaneously, like a week and a half later, Beyonce comes out with uh with a gene ad for Levi's.
Uh, okay, another example.
Young, attractive woman in this case, that's in an uh in a an ad campaign.
There was no controversy over this one.
And what's the difference?
I don't see any difference.
Anyway, here to uh weigh in on all of this.
Uh uh, Isabel Brown, the host of the Isabel Brown show.
She's at the Daily Wire.
Catalina Loff is with us, political commentator.
She has a book coming out soon, Time to Choose Reclaiming Liberty from the Swamp.
Uh, welcome both of you to the program.
Appreciate you both being here.
Uh Isabel will start with you.
Um I couldn't be happier, especially in light of what happened to Bud Light and Dylan Mulvaney and Bud Light and Anheiser Bush having no clue what their audience thought of woke.
Absolutely correct.
And this really signals, Sean, a seismic shift in culture away from what's the loudest voices are demanding these companies bow down to with every manufactured outrage issue of the day, be it the black squares on Instagram, Pride Month flags, the women's march, or anything in between.
I think what you're watching is powerful entities, companies, universities, celebrities, influencers, and politicians alike, realize that the base in America is conservative.
The vast majority of people, especially young people under the age of 35, are done with wokism, and we just want to be able to laugh again, which I think is what this campaign really has sparked in the hearts of so many people around the country.
The play on words about great genes and the ability to poke fun uh at some of the craziness over the last few years is a reminder that it's okay to smile, it's okay not to take everything so seriously, and it's okay to celebrate beauty and beautiful people again as well.
Let's get your take.
Uh, Catalina, what are your thoughts on this?
Imagine if the left had this much outrage for something that mattered, you know, like the border invasion under the Biden administration, for example, instead of an ad over a beautiful young girl, you know, our country would be in a better place.
But this is exactly how Sean, the woke left scrambles to remain relevant.
They take these cultural moments, blow them up to push their agenda, which this tactic was laid out by Marxist groups uh as early as the 70s, and they're still using it today.
Uh, but the fact that so many young people, in particular on TikTok, for example, a small minority, but they're still outraged by this, is indicative of where our culture is today and how we are taking back that culture to Isabel's point.
You know, some of these young minds have been so conditioned uh to be brought up in these culture wars that an ad like this is somehow, you know, they find racism and become outraged by it.
It's ridiculous.
It's scary.
Uh, but it's also the positive point is that we are taking our culture back and it and it within these moments, these cultural moments that have a really powerful influence on young minds, especially.
Was there a double standard in the reaction of people when it comes to Sydney Sweeney versus Beyonce Isabel?
Oh, absolutely, Sean.
And it's of it's of course really indicative of that mental conditioning, Catalina was just mentioning that anything remotely associated with classic Americana imagery, even down to a beautiful blonde-haired blue-eyed actress, which has always been a bit of a phenotype in Hollywood, has to be indicative of racism or Hitler or Nazis or even eugenics, which is often the word that I'm seeing thrown around, especially on TikTok, with that very vocal minority who's outraged about this particular ad.
Of course, these are the same people who will go march in the streets of our country on behalf of Planned Parenthood founded upon legitimate eugenics in our country's history, uh and who have absolutely raged against the idea of racism for the last several years.
But there is this note of casual or even overt racism in promoting a white person all of a sudden having to be associated with eugenics or Nazism as this undercurrent here.
And make no mistake about it, that very much is the direct result of uh initiatives like the 1619 project and this idea of systemic racism that has been pushed through every level of the American education system.
Why is it so wrong, Catalina, to recognize that it's not a bad thing that famous people or people that are attractive are usually chosen over maybe honor m more people that are not famous, not overly attractive.
Um why is that so shocking to people because that's the way it's always been and nobody got all outraged about it in the past.
And you know many millennials like myself and and Isabel as well we live sort of in this in between space.
You know, we grew up watching like Baywatch in the 90s or Bond movies with Song girls and grew up you know with Victoria's Secret models.
These were the female figures that our millennial generation grew up with.
They embodied sort of this peak femininity in America before all of this woke DI stuff.
So a lot of us know what natural beauty is and Sydney Sweeney not only embodies that but it's also this moment to Isabel's point too about Americana, this all American girl persona and taking back that culture and celebrating femininity and beauty.
In this day and age so many young people I know you I all have seen it you know ads of men dressing as women, wearing makeup like those are advertisements are considered art nowadays.
And and then and it's worshiped.
So it's it's about time that we stood our ground, took our culture back, brought brought back sanity and I'm so happy that American Eagle uh doubled down on this on this and they refused to bow down to the woke mob.
I actually have my own idea.
If I was Anheuser Bush and they still have never gotten back to where they were in terms of sales because of the Dillam Mulvaney disaster.
I mean they were so out of touch with their own audience.
The most ironic part of that whole ad campaign is uh he never drank Bud Light.
I mean when when that statement came out I was like you gotta be kidding me.
But putting that aside if I was if I was Anheuser Bush today, if I was you know in charge of Bud Light's marketing campaigns today, you know what I do?
I'd hire Sidney Sweeney tomorrow.
And I'd do an ad campaign with Sidney Sweeney just to send a message we hear you loud and clear.
Isabel good bad idea.
I think we're gonna see a lot more of that Sean and Sydney has been the face of many many ad campaigns for major leading companies across the space in the last few months.
You're also watching attractive, all-American, even very Christian male actors start to be the face of similar ad campaigns.
There's a young man who plays one of the lead characters in the most popular show among teenagers today, The Summer I Turned Pretty.
Who's also gracing the cover of many many ad campaigns from these big companies I thought it was Love Island.
Is it not Love Island?
That's up there as well but this young man is absolutely incredible named Gavin who very much shares his faith on the public stage.
He's a young married actor in the midst of Hollywood constantly telling young people they should never consider marriage.
And I think we're watching this cultural undertow that really transcends just Sidney Sweeney who's unfortunately or fortunately depending on how you look at it really become the face of this cultural backswing and the pendulum shift back towards normalcy.
I really truly believe what we're watching now is the result of the American people saying enough.
We are done with companies telling us we have to support I don't know tucking bikinis for children as Target tried to several years ago.
We're done with companies donating our profits that we are giving to them uh to organizations like BLM or Planned Parenthood.
What we really want is a celebration of our values, of our culture, of our identity, and it's okay to claim that there is an archetype of an American identity again.
For so long, you would be considered a white supremacist or a racist to say that, which is of course ridiculous.
Uh, but to know that we are retaking pride in our country and building sort of a new American dream for this next generation that the rest of the world can be inspired by really humbles me and really speaks to, I think, the character of this next generation, Gen Z as we continue to come up into adulthood.
You know, I love the fact that more and more young people are becoming more conservative.
Linda just is shaking her head, she can't even believe I know that Love Island is a show that really exists.
Um but I do think that there is a a new generation of conservatives that are standing up and speaking out, uh, Catalina that we never heard before.
No, we didn't, and you know, it's been much needed.
Yeah, the culture wars, whether it's the infringement on political and economic freedom, everything that has happened over the last few decades in in this country, we're we're at a turning point, and it's time that our generation stands up.
You know, people in the past have you know, every generation has their own moment uh of leadership and their own moments where people need to to rise up.
And I think this is our moment for millennials.
It's it's our turn to carry that torch forward.
That was really the inspiration behind uh my book, Time to Choose.
It really is a turning point here in in our country and where we want to head and what our country is going to look like twenty, fifty years from now.
And I also wanted to point out the greatest hypocrisy about the woke left and and how the young people who who are almost um i they are almost manipulated by uh the wokism and the socialist topic, you know, the same people who called this ad racist and say things like they hate capitalism.
I'd like to point out that for the Levi genes that Beyonce was was promoting, those cost around 200 for a pair of jeans, whereas the American Eagle jeans that Sydney Sweeney was promoting are half the price.
So you have one brand trying to cater to people with this luxury elite look, everything that you know the woke left says they hate about America, this capitalist elitist culture.
Whereas here, American Eagle styles are so much more approachable and affordable, and I think people are finally waking up to this.
You know, our generation is finally waking up.
All right, quick break, right back.
We'll continue.
Uh, it's great to hear young conservatives that actually are making a difference and a new generation of conservatism emerging.
Uh we'll have more with Isabel Brown, host of the Isabel Brown show at the Daily Wire.
Uh Catalina Loff is also with us, political commentator.
She has a book coming out soon, Time to Choose, Reclaiming Liberty from the Swamp.
All right, we continue now with Isabel Brown.
She is the host of the Isabel Brown show.
She's with the Daily Wire, and Catalina Loff is also with us, political commentator, author of the forthcoming book, Time to Choose, Reclaiming Liberty from the Swamp.
Let me ask you both the question.
How is it possible?
Where did you both get your influence from?
I mean, I was a conservative in my teenage years, and I listened to the great pioneers of talk radio.
They had a profound influence on me.
But even though it's becoming more common to hear both of you so young and so articulate and and your platforms are growing bigger and bigger by the day, and I'm very happy for both of you.
Where did your influences come from?
I'm just amazed by it.
Catalina.
It very much came from my family.
You know, my mother immigrated here legally from Guatemala.
Uh she just wanted to strive for the American dream.
And so those values of what she fled from, the corruption, the the civil war, everything in her home country, to find freedom and opportunity here, that was very much a part of my upbringing, as well as you know, my father, small business owner.
You know, we always had uh, you know, you on Fox News, listening to Mark Levin, Rush Limbaugh, all of the great uh that were influenced.
Thank me.
God bless us.
I'm done.
That's it.
You input significantly.
Oh, that's really you know what?
Uh honestly, everything does really start back with your family, doesn't it?
It really is amazing.
Isabel, how about you?
What were your influences?
You're young, you're conservative.
Where did it come from?
Sure it does.
That that foundation of family is everything, and I would say that was certainly my primary influence in life.
I was raised by two Catholic lawyers, so we talked a lot of politics and religion around the dinner table, even though those are the two subjects uh they say you should never talk to your family about.
Our Our parents were very passionate about their children being involved, aware, understanding what was going on in the world, and we could make up our own mind, but we better have the evidence to back it up.
Uh, but beyond that, I think generationally, I was born in 1997 in the first year of Gen Z, and I was among the older ones of us who still remember a time before the constant cultural impact of the internet.
You know, in the midst of COVID and the world being thrust, maybe against our will in many ways, into the metaverse, so to speak.
I actually do credit social media and the internet for this generational shift.
You'll often hear from particularly conservative older Americans that everything on social media and YouTube and podcasts is all degenerate content, it's destroying our society, it's poisoning the minds of the next generation.
And I'm finding the opposite to be true.
Without a doubt, without TikTok, Donald Trump would not be sitting in the Oval Office today without podcasts on some of these leading voices targeting young people, we wouldn't be seeing the resurgence of masculinity today.
And without young female voices like myself, Catalina, and so many others, you're not going to see the same response from women of quitting our dating apps and throwing away our birth control that you're now starting to see culturally.
So these voices that have seized uh the metaverse in many ways are changing the universe and our country on the ground as we know it.
Well, both of you give me a give me a lot of hope for the future.
Uh it makes me know that the future of this country is going to be in good hands.
Uh, if we could ever help either one of you, please let us know.
Uh God bless you and your work and and your your personal lives and everything in between.
Uh, we really appreciate you.
Thank you, Sean.
God bless you too.
Thank you.
God bless you.
800-941 Sean, if you want to be a part of the program.
Um, you know, it is actually having these two guests on these these young women, uh, it's it's pretty amazing to me.
It gives me a lot of faith.
And then you guys have guys like Charlie Kirk and others, that young people are becoming more conservative, that they're outspoken about their conservatism, that they're not buying into this woke ideology of people.
Um I think it's it's beyond impressive, and I'm I'm glad that people are discovering young conservative voices, because I mean, that's the next generation.
And as Reagan admonished, you know, freedom is but one generation away from extinction.
Every generation has it on their shoulders.
It's their responsibility, Linda, that they've got to do their part.
And if we don't have young people coming up, you know, behind us, then the the movement will, you know, stop dead in its tracks.
We can't have that.
And let me tell you one other thing, and this is a little known fact.
So the person who books those two girls is a very dear friend of mine.
She is a female owner-operated PR company out of DC.
She and I have known each other for a long time working in this business.
And I reached out to her and I was like, Hey, I want to do a fun segment, looking for some strong conservative chicks, yada yada yada.
And she's like, Oh, I've got these great girls.
You know, so you said to this booker, you said, I need strong conservative chicks.
Yes.
I said, I have a segment that I want to do, and I want to talk to strong conservative women that can speak to this.
I'm not looking for what you just said.
You said you do know that you're politically.
But six is not politically incorrect.
I'm not here for the sensitive uh, you know, Sally's, as we call them.
By the way, that was so funny earlier in the program today when I called that guy sensitive Sally.
I mean, I'm best thing ever.
The guy said he was a marine.
There's no marine that I've ever met that is that sensitive.
But putting that aside.
I agree.
Um I just never met it, but met that person.
But it really is refreshing to hear it.
I mean, I was a bit of an anomaly when I was a kid because I was a weirdo.
And I'm still a bit of an anomaly now.
I got news for you.
No, I'm not I'm not there's no disagreement.
I'm a complete and total loser in my real life.
Um I admit that to anybody.
You you don't you acknowledge it, right?
No, I said you were an anomaly.
I don't know where that became synonymous with loser, but all right.
Why am I an anomaly then in your view?
Well, because you've maintained like you're a lot like Trump in that way.
If I look back and I re like, you know, 20 years ago, and Stangers in the studio today, so he can back me up on this.
You know, you have not changed.
You're kind of like, you know, this stalwart conservative your whole life.
You're a little more tame now than you were 20, 30 years ago, Stanger.
Can uh uh adhere to this.
Sluggo once said to me, uh, he used to be the the general manager at the local station I was at from ninety-two to ninety-six in Atlanta, and he goes, You're a diamond in a rough and in the rough.
And I'm like, what does that mean?
And they had done research on the station and on everybody that worked on the air, and it came back that everybody loved my opinions, but I had a little bit too much New York in me, and I was kind of rough back in the day, but I had grown up listening to the likes of Bob Grant, and I wasn't really my authentic self, hadn't found my my true voice on radio or on TV yet.
And I would be I I kind of acted the way I thought a radio talk show host should be.
Well, I mean, you're also a New Yorker that they stuck in Alabama and Georgia.
So there's a little bit of there's some new ones.
I definitely have more edge.
Yeah, you know, that's not that's not how they talk, that's not how they act.
So they're like, what the hell's wrong with this guy?
Meanwhile, you were just anybody else in New York would have been like, oh, he's fine.
Look, I don't know these uh look, it's not shocking that that you have young, attractive men and women that are chosen to do ads.
That is that is as old as commercial advertising has ever existed.
That is a common practice.
And I don't care if it's Sidney Sweeney, I don't care if it's Beyonce, I don't care if if it's whoever it happens to be.
And the only mistake Bud Light made is they they totally went woke thinking that they were doing the right thing.
I assume I'm not sure who made the decision, and it it they just completely showed that they didn't know who their audience was, which is where I think Howard Stern has gone south.
Well, Howard Stern is not gonna get paid.
Go ahead.
You want to finish that thought, and then I'll tell you my thought on Bud Light.
No, go ahead on Bud Light.
You go.
Okay.
So the Bud Light thing is interesting because the woman who made the decision to hire the trans was like, you know, fairly new, you know, and somebody who is all about you know new age marketing and how we can reach you know a different demographic and reintroduce Bud Light, you know, because it was sort of like, you know, that was like uh one of those, you know, old faithful, you know, like Bud Light's the beer people have been drinking, your father drank it, your grandfather drank it, yada yada.
So they're trying to appeal to a new audience.
And so that particular marketing person was like, you know how we're gonna appeal to New York, we're gonna ask trans.
I'm like, what?
You know, that is that's called making a hard left and finding no way to come back to it.
So they fired her, and of course, upper management said we had no idea.
Now, working for a big company, I can say that there are people in the ranks that make decisions, and it's not like the president and all the corporate, you know, C-level folks know everything that's going on at every turn.
So I will give Bud Light, you know, and Anheuser Bush, sort of like, okay, I'll give you a nod on that.
That is possible, but that reputation brand, I think your idea is a good one to bring in somebody like a Sydney Sweeney to bring them all back home.
You had some woke marketing agent that made the decision, certainly upper management should have caught it, and they didn't.
But by the way, I was never gonna bring up there.
I am really pissed off at one thing, and it may sound like I'm standing with feminists on this issue.
Well, first of all, the WMBA has a lot of problems, a lot of problems.
I do not like the treatment of Caitlin Clark.
I don't.
And I'm not sure.
Yeah, I don't really care about the treatment of Caitlin Clark because Caitlin Clark had an opportunity to speak out about it, and she didn't.
She went the other way.
So good luck, Caitlin.
I think I think but yeah, but there was a lot of pressure for her not to.
And Caitlin Clark is doing more to to bring awareness and fill seats in the WMBA because of her incredible talent that's far surpasses, and there are a lot of talented people in the WMBA, but I don't think anyone shoots as well as her.
I've never seen anybody in the uh even in the MBA that can shoot as well as her in some cases.
I I don't know that much about basketball.
And I I'm not gonna pretend like I do.
But if I was gonna talk about basketball, I'm a much bigger Sophie Cunningham fan because Sophie Cunningham is just a badass.
She's just in your face, she doesn't give a rip, she's cursing people out, she's playing her game.
It's great.
Yeah, but I uh one thing I don't like.
I mean, I wish I wish Everybody would realize that a rising tide lifts all votes.
I wish people would realize that the more successful Caitlin Clark is, the more opportunities there will be for other women in the WMBA.
And I think this hazing that she's had to go through and this constant negative attention, I think it a lot of it's been unfair.
That's my take.
It is unfair, but the reason it's unfair is not because of her.
She's very so Caitlin Clark is very talented, right?
And she's out there and she's doing her thing.
And people are mad that she's getting attention for doing her thing.
And my problem is just come out and say, listen, ladies, I'm here to play just like the rest of you.
I can't determine who gets attention and who doesn't get attention.
I am like, yeah, the spotlights on me right now, and the spotlight's gonna be on you next week.
You know, I haven't heard Caitlin Clark.
Okay, she doesn't just hit three-point shots.
She hits shots that are nearly from half court.
And she hits it with regularity.
If she's on fire, there's nobody it's lights out, and she can single-handedly carry a team to victory.
You can look at lots of tape of the WMBA long before Caitlin Clark.
These women beat the crap out of each other.
Okay.
There is a far lower bar for when they step in.
I mean, they are rough.
The men in the MBA, I mean, literally, they get like a little nudge and they're like, mm-hmm.
The women are like on the ground in a brawl, and they're like, all right, you know, if you guys could stop, that'd be great.
It's a completely different game.
It just is.
Alright.
And I don't know why people are throwing sex toys on the floor.
That's pretty gross.
It actually is not gross.
It's silly, but it actually was a trick from a meme coin.
They were trying to get some attention because the name is the cryptocurrency traders.
The cryptocurrency.
Except except for my Florida Panthers, you should never be throwing anything at any athlete on any field on the ice.
Oh, 100% on any court.
Because somebody could end up getting hurt.
Although my Florida Panthers, they have rubber rats that we throw on after every victory.
And it's kind of accepted that that's the practice.
It's funny as hell.
I mean, when they won rubber rats.
Why?
Okay, you know nothing about sports.
Why am I talking to you about sports?
You don't know a thing.
It's you don't even know a crossing.
But why rats?
It just is it just became a thing.
It's when one person started it and then everybody started it.
No, but my point is it's the it's the Panthers, right?
So then you're throwing rats?
Yeah.
That's hard to explain.
Uh Joe North Carolina.
What's up, Joe?
How are you?
Hey, Sean.
Pleasure talk to you.
Wanted to bring up a topic that has hit our schools that is greatly affecting the work ethic of the up and coming generations.
Uh my wife been in teaching where North Carolina 15 years ago.
It started in North Carolina, so it's got to be everywhere in the country.
You get a 50 if you don't turn an assignment.
And the lowest grade you can get is a 50 on a test.
And it's training kids that you do nothing and you get a reward for it.
And that's what you're seeing in the work ethic of our kids across the country, is they don't have to put any effort in.
They get a 50 and then all of a sudden you can get a 60 and you pass.
I I can tell you from my experience in hiring a lot of people over the years, there is definitely a generational divide when it comes to work ethic.
Now there are major exceptions.
There are some exceptional young people out there.
But there's also an entitlement factor that I can't comprehend with some.
I don't want to sweep with a broad brush.
But it's frustrating when I see it.
Tom Minnesota, you're on the Sean Hannity show.
Hi.
Hey, Sean, it's a pleasure again to speak with you and thank you for all the work you do.
My comment.
Congratulations on Tampon Tim and uh uh Fatah, the likely new mayor of Minneapolis.
Good luck with that.
Oh God, and I can't he's gotta be tossed out along with uh Ilhan.
But uh I'm not in that district, so I have no say about those idiots.
But uh the reason I'm calling is about the president's idea of uh another census.
And my prediction is that the the left, which is already going crazy over it, is going to say that it's unconstitutional.
Now my point is that the constitution mandates a census every ten years, but it does not forbid More censuses than that.
And I think that they should have one every four years after the presidential election.
And because I think that if they just reapportion all the representatives correctly, especially with all the uh population losses from the blue states, that it might mitigate the losses that the president might have at the midterm.
I'll tell you what's going to mitigate it more.
First of all, this is Republicans only playing the game and playing by the rules the Democrats made themselves.
They are the masters at gerrymandering, as we've been pointing out, and very few in the legacy media will point out.
But the the bigger the bigger determination in terms of the outcome in 26 is going to be what elections are always about peace and prosperity.
And I have repeatedly told you that we have foundationally set this country up for economic success and a boom, the likes of which we have not seen probably in two generations.
I'm hoping and praying that I'm correct.
And if if that's the case, everybody's going to benefit.
every American will benefit.
The $15 trillion is just too much money in manufacturing jobs to ignore And whenever you cut taxes, you stimulate economic growth and energy dominance will also contribute greatly.
All right.
That's going to wrap things up for today.
Uh, I can tell you on good authority that next week is going to be an insanely busy news week.
Let's see if I'm right.
Let's see if my sources as per usual are right again.
Anyway, uh, I hope you have a great weekend with you and your family.
God bless you all.
Thank you for making this show possible.
We will see you on Monday.
Have a great weekend.
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