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Aug. 7, 2025 - Sean Hannity Show
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Who's Threatening Democracy? - August 7th, Hour 3
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Um I have gone over these numbers again and again and again.
And I'm and and we just had Governor Abbott on earlier in the program today, and I don't think people fully completely are comprehending why the issue of gerrymandering is critical in terms of of what we have.
If you're conservative, if you're a Republican, we have been victims of for the longest period of time.
And you know, this is why when they keep saying fight fire with fire.
Let me let me play a montage of Democrats repeating the same line.
Fight fire with fire, because Texas is going to do redistricting.
It is called gerrymandering.
Democrats have mastered the art of gerrymandering, but this is they're they're acting like they're victims in this whole game.
And I again will give you the numbers so you know the truth because they're lying through their teeth, uh, because this is their practice and has been their practice for a long time.
Listen.
My hope is, and I hear this from everyone everywhere.
The Democrats fight back with everything they have.
Fight fire with fire.
Only if they move forward uh to uh dismantling the protocols that are well established.
Would the state of California move forward uh in kind fighting yes, fire with fire?
Republicans are willing to rewrite these rules to give themselves an advantage, then they're leaving us no choice.
We must do the same.
There's a phrase, you have to fight fire with fire.
You stop him from cheating, from lying, and from stealing the election.
And if they're doing something to add their congressional seats, we need to look at our ways of doing that right now.
This is not the Democratic Party of your grandfather, which would bring a pencil to the knife fight.
This is a new Democratic Party.
We're bringing a knife to a knife fight, and we are gonna fight fire with fire.
Everything's on the table.
I mean, we look, we gotta fight fire with fire.
They've frankly tossed the rule book out.
They toss the rule rule book out here.
Um Texas Democrat comparing the Republican redistricting to the Holocaust, which is now their their basic go-to.
Hitler, Holocaust, Holocaust, Hitler, intermittent, concentration camp.
Um, that's their new racist sexist uh homophobic, xenophobic, islamophobic, add it to that.
So Democrats, James Carville among them, calling on Democrats to unilaterally pack the Supreme Court in response to it.
Now, here's the problem.
They want to fight fire with fire.
Okay.
There's only one problem.
They don't have any, they don't have any ability to fight fire with fire because they have gerrymandered themselves to death.
I'll give you the examples.
I keep giving these out, but nobody seems to understand it.
Now, in the state of California, the first person to say fight fire with fire was Gavin Newsom.
Republicans won 39% of the House vote seats in California, but they only have 17% of House seats in California.
Why?
Because of gerrymandering in the state of Connecticut.
Republicans won a respectable 40% of the vote for the House of Representatives.
They have zero seats in Connecticut.
Illinois, maybe the most gerrymandered map in the nation.
Well, Republicans won a res very respectable in 2024, 47% of the statewide House vote.
They only have 18% of House of Representative seats in the state of Illinois.
Uh Maryland, blueest, one of the bluest states in the country.
Again, 35%.
Republicans win the statewide House vote, but they only have 12% of the seats.
I love Massachusetts.
I love the governor there saying we're gonna fight fire with fire.
We're gonna fight back.
Uh meanwhile, President Trump did win 36% of the vote last year in Massachusetts.
Republicans have zero house seats.
They haven't had a house seat since the 1990s in the state of Massachusetts.
Why?
Because of gerrymandering.
Nevada, okay, Republicans win the statewide House vote by 10 points and only walked away with one single House seat.
New Jersey, you heard Corey Booker.
Well, Kamala Harris won only by six points in New Jersey.
Republicans got forty-five percent of the House vote.
They only have three seats, twenty-seven percent.
New Mexico, forty-five percent of the vote.
And and again, a small percentage of the seats there.
New York, okay.
Republicans win 42% of the statewide House vote.
They only have 27% of the seats.
Oregon, 42% of the vote, 17% of the seats.
Washington State, 42% of the nation of the statewide House vote.
They only have 20% less than half of the seats.
That's gerrymandering that has been mastered by one group of people, and that's the Democrats.
And now, you know, if you listen to the likes of James Carvel and others, well, now they're talking about stacking the Supreme Court to create a new blue states to save democracy.
Well, this is their game.
This is their rules.
They built it, they created it, and now they're mad that Republicans are are are playing the game the way they they set up the rules.
Anyway, John and Jim McLaughlin are with us.
They know a lot about gerrymandering.
And President Trump announced that he has ordered a rare mid-decade census to exclude illegal immigrants.
By the way, another w another weapon used by Democrats to cheat as this battle over redistricting between Republicans and Democrats heat up.
By the way, this is not going to be an issue decided by the Supreme Court because they've already decided they don't have a say in this.
Anyway, uh welcome back, John and Jim McLaughlin.
John, we start with you.
Have I summed it up somewhat accurately?
Uh you summed it up very accurately, and the the Democrats are usually hypocritical on this.
I couldn't believe that Governor Hokel in New York, after what she's done in the last couple cycles to Republicans in her state, had the nerve to uh write an op-ed in the Easton Chronicle attacking Texas Republicans.
Where was the media outcry in 2021 when New York State voters in three proposals statewide passed a proposal not to count illegals and redistricting, passed a proposal for no excuse absentees to get rid of that to make sure that doesn't become law, and also to eliminate same-day registration.
The voters in New York, where we don't even have voter ID, vote voted against those proposals, and guess what the Democrats did?
They just overruled it and just did it anyway.
They've been counting illegals in all these census, and when the Trump administration tried to not do it in 2019, well the Democrats fought it.
And the other part about Hokel is she had a redistricting plan in New York where it was so bizarre would have cut the Republican delegation down to four in and total total representation.
They were ca they were having seats go from the North Shore of Long Island all the way uh through the Long Island Sound up through Democrat areas of the Bronx and Westchester to eliminate uh the New York three seat as a Republican chance where Jerry George Sanos got elected.
But in the the what they did was after a judge stepped in and ruled that they could have uh competitive races and uh Republicans funded that challenge.
Um what they did was they came back two years later and they changed the rules again by stacking the court.
They forced out a moderate Democrat that Colomo had appointed as the chief justice in New York, they forced her out, put in an unqualified liberal for aggressive, and they passed a new plan where they were able to make Tom Swazi more secure in New York Free because he won the special election against uh uh succeeding Sanos.
They also uh made it tougher for uh uh for Anthony Diaz Davido in New York 4 to get re-elected, and they secured Democrat seats upstate, and basically they're whittling away at the d at the Republicans by changing the rules.
She ch she gerrymandered two years ago.
And and they won law cases on this, and now she says the Republicans in Texas can't do it because she does it in New York.
And when you look at the seats, uh, this is all about the midterms.
If we don't win the midterms, they will contain Donald Trump, they will impeach him again, and this is all about control and power and trying to contain Donald Trump for uh because he's been so successful in the first two hundred days of his uh second term.
So uh this is this is a battle for patrol in the midterms, and we should not take it lying down because they will cheat, they will they will rig the rules, they'll do anything they can to try to take uh our House majority from us.
How is it possible, Jim, That Democrats were able to sneak in the census, illegal immigrants, and it wasn't really a big deal.
We did talk about it here, but nobody else really paid attention to it.
Which, by the way, Sean, is clearly a vi I'm not a lawyer.
By the way, I need to say thank you for showing up on time.
We really appreciate it.
I won't even mention that you were late.
But with all that being said, I'm not a lawyer, Sean, and I don't pretend to play one on the radio, and you laid out the Democrat hypocrisies brilliantly at the start of this.
But this is a violation of the Fourteenth Amendment.
It guarantees equal protection under the law.
One person, one vote.
You're taking away Americans' right to vote by letting illegals, foreigners, they're letting foreigners vote in American elections.
Talk about a threat to democracy.
But to go back to your question, which is the right question to ask, you know who was running the redistricting on the Democratic side?
It was this aptly named group, probably not an aptly named group, but the National Redistricting Action Fund.
That's the group that the Democrats were using.
It shouldn't have been called the National Redistricting Action Fund.
It should have been called the National Gerrymandering Action Fund.
And you know who ran it?
Eric Holder, Barack Obama's attorney general, his quote unquote political wingman, and guess who else?
Mark Elias, the same dirty lawyer that gave us the Russia hoax, the same ones that were giving us law fare against Donald Trump, they're the same ones that gave us the phony impeachments.
That's what they did.
So they went into these states, and there are states.
You know, you mentioned it.
How can you have a place like Massachusetts?
You s we don't have one Republican in Congress.
We haven't had one there since the nineties, just like you said.
And we've had Republican governors in Massachusetts, and the the corrupt Democrats there will not allow a Republican member of Congress.
You've got to be kidding me.
And to go to Texas, when you look at Texas, their redistricting plan, what it does is it makes eight Hispanic districts and two black districts.
They've never had black districts in Texas.
So you see the Republican Party down there is trying to give Hispanic voters and trying to give black voters more representation, and the Democrats don't like it.
Talk about the ultimate hypocrisy.
Whenever the Democrats start saying that we're the threats to democracy, they are clearly violating the Constitution and they're doing more corrupt things.
We'll continue more with Jim and John McLaughlin on the other side.
then your calls are coming up.
All right, we continue with Jim and John McLaughlin looking at the issues surrounding gerrymandering and redistricting in the president's proposal that we have a new census that does not include people in this country illegally.
What do you make of the reaction to this?
And we could play Kathy Hokel and James Carville.
Kathy Hokel, you know, saying that is it's nothing short of a a legal insurrection.
We must do the same.
The only problem is they already did the same.
The only problem is they they set the example.
They set the bar, they set the rules.
Here's what she said.
What Texas and Republican states are doing at the direction of Donald Trump, I say is nothing short of a legal insurrection against our Capitol.
Legal meaning they're using the legal process.
Does not mean it's legal, and it must be stopped.
Republicans are willing to rewrite these rules to give themselves an advantage, then they're leaving us no choice.
We must do the same.
That is a true statement of how we're feeling right now.
As I've said, another overused but applicable phrase.
All spare and love and war.
That's why I'm exploring with our leaders.
Every option to redraw our state congressional lines as soon as possible.
And then you had James Carvel, he said they should Democrats when they get back in power at DC and Puerto Rico as states unilaterally, they're gonna have to do it.
and then he talked about expanding the supreme court to 13 members and uh i mean basically there's nothing they won't do to maintain power this This is all about power, which by the way uh is Mark Levin's new book.
Right.
And and by the way, Sean, with uh you you've nailed it because she's a governor who's in trouble.
She's right now, she she's got high negative ratings.
People don't like the job she's doing, whether it's crime taxes, cases, mail, uh sanctuary city for illegal immigrants.
I mean, even in a Democrat in New York, she's in trouble.
And whether you've got uh uh Elise Stefan or Mike Lawler or Bruce Bruce Blakeman, they would all give her a close race right now for governor.
But she's changing the rules because she wants to have a one-party state.
It's almost like communist China, where it's basically, you know, you just want to have the Democrats be the only ones who can win the election.
And you really believe either Lawler or Elise DeFon can win?
Yes.
Uh there's been published polls where she's an incumbent.
I helped Lee Zelden last time.
We hit a wall, we ran close.
We needed Democrats to basically we needed a couple more points for the Democrats to switch.
She almost got beat last time, and now she's done an even worse job.
And published polls have have her running in the mid-40s.
When you're an incumbent running in the mid-40s, that's where uh Mario Cuomo was when he lost in New York.
You're in trouble because the majority of New Yorkers don't want to vote for you.
They want they want to elect somebody else.
So the state is the has lost too many Republicans.
It's a very different error.
I think it's an uphill battle.
I don't doubt your your polling.
I think it would be very close if you're saying it's doable.
Uh I believe you.
Um, I have to leave it here though.
Uh John McLaughlin, Jim McLaughlin, appreciate you both.
Uh, thank you for shedding some light on all of this for everybody.
I hope people understand it.
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So we have Marxist Mamdani in New York.
Uh the Democratic Party in Minneapolis has decided to put aside their current mayor, and which I think is pretty interesting, Jacob Frey is his name.
And they're going with and have endorsed the guy Omar Fatah, uh, which is his name to be the next mayor of Minneapolis.
And here's what he says that the real threat to America is white people.
Heard them being called terrorists.
We heard them being called drug dealers.
We heard a lot of insults.
We heard that they're that they're a threat to our national security.
And that's a flat out lie.
You want to know who the real threat is, Madam President?
I'll give you a hint.
It doesn't they don't look like our chief author.
They don't look like the folks up in the gallery.
They don't look like the folks on the rotunda.
They look like many of the members that sit in the front.
And you don't have to take my word for it.
According to DHS, Madam President, uh the domestic the greatest domestic threat facing the United States comes from quote, racially or ethnically motivated violent extremists.
Specifically, specifically Those who advocate for the superiority superiority of the white race, not our immigrants.
We are safer and we're better off because of them.
Uh wow.
Now Mom Donnie wants to tax white people and white neighborhoods more.
You know, there used to be a word for that.
Linda, do you remember?
I'm struggling to find the word.
I have so many words for these people.
Most of them I cannot say on air, but I think the one you're looking for is racist.
Oh, I know.
It begins with an R. All right, let's get to our busy phones.
Uh, Michelle in California, uh, the United Socialist Utopia of Gavin Newsom.
How are you, Michelle?
Uh, I'm good, Sean.
Um, I don't claim California.
I'm just here with uh helping my kids.
So your kids live in California, go they go to school, or they live out there or what?
Well, the daughter with uh four children, uh just a uh a married son who's g about to have a baby, and then another son who's in um you know, he's in the the movie business, the good movie business.
He helped make the Passion of the Christ and um the Sound of Freedom, so um, you know, I have that uh to help me.
Well, what a what a great mom you are.
You're awesome.
Good for you.
Hey, thank God.
And I want to tell you why I'm calling you.
I'm calling you to give a great rebuttal to last week's call that uh it might have been a few days ago where the woman called and was calling you out for you know how you you spread hate.
That is I'm giving you a huge rebuttal.
I have so much respect for you.
Your children, you're leaving them a legacy of a great man who acts like a Christian.
That and you want to know something, Sean?
I was gonna call you before that lady ever did her her her speech on that or her call on that.
I was gonna call you before then and tell you how much I respect you and what how you act like a Christian before she even did that.
Isn't that crazy?
Well, first of all, you're very kind.
You know what one thing is I I've feel that Christians are not understood.
You know what the reason the main reason uh I I am a I'm passionate about my faith and why faith and my belief in God as a Christian is so important to me, is because the first thing you have to acknowledge as a Christian is that you're a sinner like everybody else, and that we're we're in a fallen state, and all you're really hoping for is a desire to be a better person.
And the word repentance means to change your heart and to become a better person.
And you're very kind to say it.
I don't hide my faith.
I don't like to proselytize either.
I think that you know, religious religion is a very personal thing.
Um it is I I really do appreciate all the people that I run into in my life.
Like, for example, I I actually had to announce on the air because people are very reluctant.
Oh, I don't want to bother you.
Um, but is it possible maybe take a picture?
Please, anybody if you see me out anywhere and you're you like the show and you want to take a picture or you want to say hello, please do.
I absolutely am grateful to all of you for giving me this microphone every day and giving me that camera every night.
And so it's an honor for me to get to meet all of you.
But I will tell you, there is there are groups of people, Michelle.
It was especially bad and getting really it was getting worse in New York uh when I lived there in certain places, especially New York City, where my very presence would trigger people, and it was so obvious they couldn't stand the sight of me.
And I'm not sure because if I see liberals that I disagree with politically, I promise you I'm not gonna get triggered.
And if they're in the same restaurant that I happen to be in, I'd probably send over a glass of of wine or whatever they're drinking.
And and Sean, that is the difference.
And again, and another thing is when the lady was talking about, oh, you talk about this group or that, but Sean, you're bringing to light even our Lord Jesus said they're vipers and they're snakes.
We're calling out the evil.
We don't go against the people.
That makes the difference.
We go against their actions.
And uh, that is the difference.
We and you're bringing to light even Ludani.
We that you're just bringing to light.
But the good news is we can pray.
And our nation is great because of God.
That's the only reason we have any greatness.
And we saw with uh President Trump how he spared his life.
That was a d you know, a miracle, as we know.
So, you know, we know we have that hope, but you're not spreading hate, you're spreading truth, and you're bringing things to light that needs to be brought to light.
And that's a good thing.
And we So listen, um if I'm ever wrong, um, unlike Linda, I can admit that I'm wrong.
Uh and what does that mean?
You're not exactly good at admitting that you're wrong.
You still have never acknowledged that the trip I sent you on to California was a very nice thing to do, and you complain bitterly about it, and I learned a lesson, never do anything nice for people.
It would have been nice.
You made it unnice because of what you did because you can't admit when you're wrong.
I'm actually very mayor culpa.
I'm all about it all day long.
Okay.
That that that is fake news, but we'll put that aside.
Michelle, I sent her on a beautiful vacation.
She was getting a great reward, uh a great award, and I said her and her family, I put them in the nicest hotel in San Diego, the Del Coronado, and all she did was complain because I decided on a day that I was scheduled to be off because of breaking news.
It wasn't one day, bro.
It was like three days.
It wasn't one day.
And and we can survive without you.
But I digress.
You cannot.
You cannot.
Fake news.
Uh that would be what you're saying.
But Michelle, I do have something that I want to share with you.
If you want to watch great series about that, I that really inspired me and my faith, because I like not only do you read the Bible and and go to church and and sometimes I watch church sermons online and stuff.
You have to watch the series if you haven't watched it, the chosen.
Then there's a history channel series on the Bible if you want to learn more about the old testament.
Because it's hard to read the old testament.
It takes a lot of time.
I'm I've been trying to do the the Bible in a year, and it's gonna take me three years.
And then a new series by Mark Burnett and Roma Downey, or at least I just found it.
I didn't know it existed.
And I found it by accident, and I really loved it.
I just finished it the other night.
It's called A D. It starts with the crucifixion and then the life of the disciples and and Paula Tarsus or Solitars.
It it goes through those those years in the early days of the church, I thought they were very, very it was very enlightening.
I liked all three of them.
I think you might like it.
Uh the other two I knew, and the one really transformed my you know, the Lord really used in one of my uh children's life, uh chosen.
And then I was gonna say, um, yeah, that's right.
I haven't heard of the AD, so I was definitely look that up.
Love things like that.
And uh Yeah, I just go to Apple TV and you just A D. Uh it's Roma Downey, who I love and and her husband Mark Burnett, they're wonderful people, and I like them both a lot.
And uh they've been on the program before.
They do a lot of really good stuff.
Um anyway, Michelle, I appreciate your kind words.
You know, radio is a heart medium, and I could tell you have a good heart.
And as most of our listeners do, the overwhelming ninety-nine percent of you, thank you.
Um Jason in the free state of Texas, God bless Texas.
What's up, Jason?
How are you, sir?
How are you doing, Sean?
Um, I just got a comment made uh from one of your um interviews on manufacturing jobs.
Uh he's talking about the number of manufacturing jobs that are available in United States right now, over uh hundreds of thousands.
Okay.
Well, actually, we have Mike Rowody, he said he gave him a number over six million, if I heard him correctly.
Oh, six million.
He's talking about jobs available in the country.
Well, I've heard I've heard around seven hundred thousand manufacturing jobs uh from other stuff and stuff.
That's probably right, but that's about to increase exponentially when this money comes online, this there's twelve to fifteen trillion dollars in committed monies for manufacturing.
Well, that's my point.
There's a lot of kids who do not want to do their software.
And there's a lot of parents who do not want their kids working like that.
They look at it as being beneath them.
You see it manufacturing, you see it in trade work.
Are w are we gonna be able to fill those jobs?
And that's that's the point I'm trying to make.
Are there's gonna be people to fill those jobs?
I mean, back in the 70s, before the s before the 70s, people move across the country for a factory job.
That's not the case anymore.
People have a laundry list of what they want from a job, and a lot of those jobs like That are not on the laundry list.
Well, that would be a self-imposed limitation.
And that would close doors for people, and they're doing it to themselves.
If I had that attitude in my life and my career, um, I I never would have I I never would have left Santa Barbara, California and got gotten my first paid radio job in Huntsville, Alabama.
If I didn't move to a bigger market in Atlanta, Georgia, I wouldn't have had a better paying career job uh and advanced my career.
Uh that that would again self-imposed limitations.
You know, what shocked me, I'll tell you a story, and longtime listeners will remember this, but when the Balkans and North Dakota were just thriving, and they were they were training people to be drivers and giving them a place to live, and starting salary being trained was anywhere between eighty and a hundred thousand dollars a year, and probably and all the overtime that you could handle, and great benefits on top of it.
I said at the time, if I was in a situation where I had a dead end job, wasn't making a lot of money, I would have moved up there in a second.
Anyway, then a couple of months later I started getting calls.
People heard what I had said, they made the move, they were thanking me for the advice, and then I said, Well, let's take this to another level.
And then we started calling companies, oil companies, energy companies, and we started asking them what jobs they had available for people, and we were we were partnering lit listeners that weren't happy in their current positions, and people were moving wherever the jobs were,
left, right, and sideways, and and they were happy, and they'd could they call back months or years later and they tell it tell me they bought a house, they got a new truck, you know, things that were unavailable to them just a couple of years earlier, only because they were willing to take the chance.
I would I would say to everybody don't put self-imposed limitations on your life.
You've got to take chances, you've got to make moves, you gotta jump when you're on the high board.
That's part of life.
And if you have an opportunity, if your opportunity is in another state, look at it as an adventure.
I've lived now in six different states in this country, and it's it's it's some of the greatest experiences of my life.
I've learned so much about the country, different parts of the country, you know, having been raised in New York and ending up in Alabama.
How are you doing?
Sean, New York, talk radio.
Sean, how you doing, man?
Welcome to Huntsville.
Man, you talk funny.
I mean, I learned so much, and I just don't want to see people.
I I want the American dream alive for everybody that wants it.
I want Americans to have their own home, beautiful home in a safe neighborhood with good schools for their kids, with a with a car or truck of their choice that can take a family vacation, which I never took as a kid.
We didn't have the money, and you know, be able to go out to dinner as a family once or twice a week, not have to worry about it, order pizza, whatever you want, not have to worry about the cost, and and put money away for your future and your retirement and your health care and things like that.
That's what I want for every American.
That's gonna wrap things up for today.
Hannity tonight, nine Eastern on the Fox News channel.
Uh Donald Trump saying, No, we're not gonna count illegals in the census, and we're gonna have honest numbers, uh, especially when they factor population size into uh congressional districts.
Uh, we'll get Tom Homan's take on that.
Also uh the power grab that James Carvel is talking about packing the courts and DC and Puerto Rico statehood.
I'll check in with Victor Davis Hanson, Katie Pavlich, uh also the very latest on Russia Russia Russia Gate as it is exposed who is at risk of going to jail.
We'll check in with Greg Jarrett, Mark Penn, Katie Miller.
If you don't know, she's Stephen Miller's wife, work with Elon Musk, she's starting a Rome Podcast, and Joe Concha, all coming up, say you DVR tonight, Hannity, 9 Eastern on Fox.
We'll see you then back here tomorrow.
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