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I have gone over these numbers again and again and again, and I'm and we just had Governor Abbott on earlier in the program today, and I don't think people fully completely are comprehending why the issue of gerrymandering is critical in terms of what we have.
If you're conservative, if you're a Republican, we have been victims of for the longest period of time.
And, you know, this is why when they keep saying, fight fire with fire, let me play a montage of Democrats repeating the same line: fight fire with fire, because Texas is going to do redistricting.
It is called gerrymandering.
Democrats have mastered the art of gerrymandering, but this is they're acting like they're victims in this whole game.
And I, again, will give you the numbers so you know the truth because they're lying through their teeth because this is their practice and has been their practice for a long time.
Listen, my hope is, and I hear this from everyone everywhere: the Democrats fight back with everything they have, fight fire with fire.
Only if they move forward to dismantling the protocols that are well established, would the state of California move forward in kind, fighting yes, fire with fire?
If Republicans are willing to rewrite these rules to give themselves an advantage, then they're leaving us no choice.
We must do the same.
There's a phrase: you have to fight fire with fire.
You need to stop him from cheating, from lying, and from stealing the election.
And if they're doing something to add their congressional seats, we need to look at our ways of doing that right now.
This is not the Democratic Party of your grandfather, which would bring a pencil to the knife fight.
This is a new Democratic party.
We're bringing a knife to a knife fight, and we are going to fight fire with fire.
Everything's on the table.
I mean, we look, we got to fight fire with fire.
They've frankly tossed the rulebook out.
They tossed the rule book out here.
One Texas Democrat comparing the Republican redistricting to the Holocaust, which is now their basic go-to.
That's their new racist, sexist, homophobic, xenophobic, Islamophobic.
Added to that.
So Democrats, James Carvel among them, calling on Democrats to unilaterally pack the Supreme Court in response to it.
Now, here's the problem.
They want to fight fire with fire.
Okay, they can fight fire with fire.
There's only one problem.
They don't have any ability to fight fire with fire because they have gerrymandered themselves to death.
I'll give you examples.
I keep giving these out, but nobody seems to understand it.
Now, in the state of California, the first person to say fight fire with fire was Gavin Newsom.
Republicans won 39% of the House vote seats in California, but they only have 17% of House seats in California.
Why?
Because of gerrymandering in the state of Connecticut.
Republicans won a respectable 40% of the vote for the House of Representatives.
They have zero seats in Connecticut.
Illinois, maybe the most gerrymandered map in the nation.
Well, Republicans won a very respectable in 2024, 47% of the statewide House vote.
They only have 18% of House of Representatives seats in the state of Illinois.
Maryland, one of the bluest states in the country.
Again, 35% Republicans win the statewide House vote, but they only have 12% of the seats.
I love Massachusetts.
I love the governor there saying, we're going to fight fire with fire.
We're going to fight back.
Meanwhile, President Trump did win 36% of the vote last year in Massachusetts.
Republicans have zero House seats.
They haven't had a House seat since the 1990s in the state of Massachusetts.
Why?
Because of gerrymandering.
Nevada?
Okay.
Republicans win the statewide House vote by 10 points and only walked away with one single House seat.
New Jersey, you heard Corey Booker.
Kamala Harris won only by six points in New Jersey.
Republicans got 45% of the House vote.
They only have three seats, 27%.
New Mexico, 45% of the vote.
And again, a small percentage of the seats there.
New York, okay.
Republicans win 42% of the statewide House vote.
They only have 27% of the seats.
Oregon, 42% of the vote, 17% of the seats.
Washington State, 42% of the nation of the statewide House vote.
They only have 20%, less than half of the seats.
That's gerrymandering that has been mastered by one group of people, and that's the Democrats.
And now, you know, if you listen to the likes of James Carville and others, well, now they're talking about stacking the Supreme Court to create new blue states to save democracy.
Well, this is their game.
This is their rules.
They built it.
They created it.
And now they're mad that Republicans are playing the game the way they set up the rules.
Anyway, John and Jim McLaughlin are with us.
They know a lot about gerrymandering.
And President Trump announced that he has ordered a rare mid-decade census to exclude illegal immigrants.
By the way, another weapon used by Democrats to cheat as this battle over redistricting between Republicans and Democrats heat up.
By the way, this is not going to be an issue decided by the Supreme Court because they've already decided they don't have a say in this.
Anyway, welcome back, John and Jim McLaughlin.
John, we start with you.
Have I summed it up somewhat accurately?
You summed it up very accurately.
And the Democrats are usually hypocritical on this.
I couldn't believe that Governor Hochle in New York, after what she's done in the last couple cycles to Republicans in her state, had the nerve to write an op-ed in the Houston Chronicle attacking Texas Republicans.
Where was the media outcry in 2021 when New York state voters in three proposals statewide passed a proposal not to count illegals in redistricting, passed a proposal for no excuse absentees to get rid of that to make sure that doesn't become law, and also to eliminate same-day registration?
The voters in New York, where we don't even have voter ID, voted against those proposals.
And guess what the Democrats did?
They just overruled it and just did it anyway.
They've been counting illegals in all these census.
And when the Trump administration tried to not do it in 2019, well, the Democrats fought it.
And the other part about Hochul is she had a redistricting plan in New York where it was so bizarre it would have cut the Republican delegation down to four and total representation.
They were having seats go from the north shore of Long Island all the way through the Long Island Sound up through Democrat areas of the Bronx and Westchester to eliminate the New York 3 seat as a Republican chance where Georgianos got elected.
But what they did was after a judge stepped in and ruled that they could have competitive races and Republicans funded that challenge, what they did was they came back two years later and they changed the rules again by stacking the court.
They forced out a moderate Democrat that Cuomo had pointed as the Chief Justice in New York.
They forced her out, put in an unqualified liberal progressive, and they passed a new plan where they were able to make Tom Swasey more secure in New York 3 because he won the special election against succeeding Santos.
They also made it tougher for Anthony DiEsposito in New York IV to get re-elected, and they secured Democrat seats upstate, and basically they're whittling away at the Republicans by changing the rules.
She gerrymandered two years ago.
And they won law cases on this.
And now she says the Republicans in Texas can't do it because she does it in New York.
And when you look at the seats, this is all about the midterms.
If we don't win the midterms, they will contain Donald Trump.
They will impeach him again.
And this is all about control and power and trying to contain Donald Trump because he's been so successful in the first 200 days of his second term.
So this is a battle for control in the midterms, and we should not take it lying down because they will cheat.
They will rig the rules.
They'll do anything they can to try to take our House majority from us.
How is it possible, Jim, that Democrats were able to sneak in the census illegal immigrants, and it wasn't really a big deal?
We did talk about it here, but nobody else really paid attention to it.
Which, by the way, Sean, is clearly, I'm not a lawyer.
By the way, I need to say thank you for showing up on time.
We really appreciate it.
I won't even mention that you were late.
But with all that being said, I'm not a lawyer, Sean, and I don't pretend to play one on the radio.
And you laid out the Democrat hypocrisies brilliantly at the start of this.
But this is a violation of the 14th Amendment.
It guarantees equal protection under the law.
One person, one vote.
You're taking away Americans' right to vote by letting illegals, foreigners, they're letting foreigners vote in American elections.
Talk about a threat to democracy.
But to go back to your question, which is the right question to ask, you know who was running the redistricting on the Democratic side?
It was this aptly named group, probably not an aptly named group, but the National Redistricting Action Fund.
That's the group that the Democrats were using.
It shouldn't have been called the National Redistricting Action Fund.
It should have been called the National Gerrymandering Action Fund.
And you know who ran it?
Eric Holder, Barack Obama's attorney general, his quote-unquote political wingman, and guess who else?
Mark Elias, the same dirty lawyer that gave us the Russia hoax, the same ones that were giving us lawfare against Donald Trump, they're the same ones that gave us the phony impeachments.
That's what they did.
So they went into these states, and there were states.
You know, you mentioned it.
How can you have a place like Massachusetts?
We don't have one Republican in Congress.
We haven't had one there since the 90s, just like you said.
And we've had Republican governors in Massachusetts, and the corrupt Democrats there will not allow a Republican member of Congress.
You've got to be kidding me.
And to go to Texas, when you look at Texas, their redistricting plan, what it does is it makes eight Hispanic districts and two black districts.
They've never had black districts in Texas.
So you see the Republican Party down there is trying to give Hispanic voters and trying to give black voters more representation, and the Democrats don't like it.
Talk about the ultimate hypocrisy.
Whenever the Democrats start saying that we're the threats to democracy, they are clearly violating the Constitution, and they're doing more corrupt things.
All right, quick break.
We'll come right back.
We'll continue more with Jim and John McLaughlin on the other side.
Then your calls are coming up.
We continue with Jim and John McLaughlin looking at the issues surrounding gerrymandering and redistricting in the president's proposal that we have a new census that does not include people in this country illegally.
What do you make of the reaction to this?
And we could play Kathy Hochle and James Carville.
Kathy Hochl saying that it's nothing short of a legal insurrection.
We must do the same.
The only problem is they already did the same.
The only problem is they set the example.
They set the bar.
They set the rules.
Here's what she said.
What Texas and Republican states are doing at the direction of Donald Trump, I say is nothing short of a legal insurrection against our capital.
Legal meaning they're using the legal process does not mean it's legal, and it must be stopped.
If Republicans are willing to rewrite these rules to give themselves an advantage, then they're leaving us no choice.
We must do the same.
There's a phrase, you have to fight fire with fire.
That is a true statement of how we're feeling right now.
And as I said, another overused but applicable phrase: all's fair in love and war.
That's why I'm exploring with our leaders every option to redraw our state congressional lines as soon as possible.
And then you had James Carville.
He said they should, Democrats, when they get back in power at D.C. and Puerto Rico as states unilaterally, they're going to have to do it.
And then he talked about expanding the Supreme Court to 13 members.
And I mean, basically, there's nothing they won't do to maintain power.
This is all about power, which, by the way, is Mark Levin's new book.
Right.
And by the way, Sean, you've nailed it because she's a governor who's in trouble.
She's right now, she's got high negative ratings.
People don't like the job she's doing, whether it's crime, taxes, cashless bail, sanctuary city for illegal immigrants.
I mean, even in a Democrat New York, she's in trouble.
And whether you've got Elise Stefanik or Mike Lawler or Bruce Blakeman, they would all give her a close race right now for governor.
But she's changing the rules because she wants to have a one-party state.
It's almost like communist China, where it's basically, you know, you just want to have the Democrats be the only ones who can win the election.
You really believe either Lawler or Elise DeFanic can win?
Yes.
There's been published polls where she's an incumbent.
I helped Lee Zeldon last time.
We hit a wall.
We ran close.
We needed Democrats to basically, we needed a couple more points for the Democrats to switch.
She almost got beat last time, and now she's done an even worse job.
And published polls have her running in the mid-40s.
When you're an incumbent running in the mid-40s, that's where Mario Cuomo was when he lost in New York.
You're in trouble because the majority of New Yorkers don't want to vote for you.
They want to elect somebody else.
The state has lost too many Republicans.
It's a very different era.
I think it's an uphill battle.
I don't doubt your polling.
I think it would be very close.
If you're saying it's doable, I believe you.
I have to leave it here, though.
John McLaughlin, Jim McLaughlin, appreciate you both.
Thank you for shedding some light on all of this for everybody.
I hope people understand it.
We'll get you phone calls when we come back, by the way, if you want to join us.
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So we have Marxist Mamdani in New York.
The Democratic Party in Minneapolis has decided to put aside their current mayor, which I think is pretty interesting.
Jacob Frey is his name.
And they're going with and have endorsed the guy Omar Fatah, which is his name, to be the next mayor of Minneapolis.
And here's what he says, that the real threat to America is white people.
Heard them being called terrorists.
We heard them being called drug dealers.
We heard a lot of insults.
We heard that they're a threat to our national security.
And that's a flat out lie.
You want to know who the real threat is, Madam President?
I'll give you a hint.
They don't look like our chief author.
They don't look like the folks up in the gallery.
They don't look like the folks on the rotunda.
They look like many of the members that sit in the front.
And you don't have to take my word for it.
According to DHS, Madam President, the greatest domestic threat facing the United States comes from, quote, racially or ethnically motivated violent extremists, specifically those who advocate for the superiority of the white race, not our immigrants.
We are safer and we're better off because of them.
Wow.
Now, Mom Donnie wants to tax white people and white neighborhoods more.
You know, there used to be a word for that.
Linda, do you remember?
I'm struggling to find the word.
I have so many words for these people.
Most of them I cannot say on air, but I think the one you're looking for is racist.
Oh, I know.
It begins with an R. Put a racist.
All right, let's get to our busy phones.
Michelle in California, the United Socialist Utopia of Gavin Newsome.
How are you, Michelle?
Oh, I'm good, Sean.
I don't clean California.
I'm just here with helping my kids.
Are your kids live in California?
Are they going to school?
They live out there or what?
Well, I have a daughter with four children, just a married son who's about to have a baby, and then another son who's in, you know, who's in the movie business, the good movie business.
He helped make the passion of the Christ and the sound of freedom.
So, you know, I have that to help.
Wow, what a great mom you are.
You're awesome.
Good for you.
Hey, thank God.
And I want to tell you why I'm calling you.
I'm calling you to give a great rebuttal to last week's call.
It might have been a few days ago where the woman called and was calling you out for, you know, how you spread hate.
That is, I'm giving you a huge rebuttal.
I have so much respect for you.
Your children, you're leaving them a legacy of a great man who acts like a Christian.
And you want to know something, Sean?
I was going to call you before that lady ever did her speech on that or her call on that.
I was going to call you before then and tell you how much I respect you and how you act like a Christian before she even did that.
Isn't that crazy?
Well, first of all, you're very kind.
You know, one thing I feel that Christians are not understood.
You know what the reason, the main reason I am a, I'm passionate about my faith and why faith and my belief in God as a Christian is so important to me is because the first thing you have to acknowledge as a Christian is that you're a sinner like everybody else and that we're in a fallen state.
And all you're really hoping for is a desire to be a better person.
And the word repentance means to change your heart and to become a better person.
And you're very kind to say it.
I don't hide my faith.
I don't like to proselytize either.
I think that, you know, religion is a very personal thing.
It is, I really do appreciate all the people that I run into in my life.
Like, for example, I actually had to announce on the air because people are very reluctant.
Oh, I don't want to bother you.
But is it possible maybe take a picture?
Please, anybody, if you see me out anywhere and you like the show and you want to take a picture or you want to say hello, please do.
I absolutely am grateful to all of you for giving me this microphone every day and giving me that camera every night.
And so it's an honor for me to get to meet all of you.
But I will tell you, there are groups of people, Michelle.
It was especially bad and getting really, it was getting worse in New York when I lived there in certain places, especially New York City, where my very presence would trigger people and it was so obvious they couldn't stand the sight of me.
And I'm not sure because if I see liberals that I disagree with politically, I promise you, I'm not going to get triggered.
And if they're in the same restaurant that I happen to be in, I'd probably send over a glass of wine or whatever they're drinking.
And Sean, that is the difference.
And again, and another thing is when the lady was talking about, oh, you talk about this group or that.
But Sean, you're bringing to light even our Lord Jesus said they're vipers and they're snakes.
We're calling out the evil.
We don't go against the people.
That makes the difference.
We go against their actions.
And that is the difference.
And you're bringing to light even Ladani, you're just bringing to light.
But the good news is we can pray.
And our nation is great because of God.
That's the only reason we have any greatness.
And we saw with President Trump how he spared his life.
That was a miracle, as we know.
So, you know, we know we have that hope.
But you're not spreading hate.
You're spreading truth.
And you're bringing things to light that needs to be brought to light.
And that's a good thing.
And we can.
Listen, if I'm ever wrong, unlike Linda, I can admit that I'm wrong.
And what does that mean?
You're not exactly good at admitting that you're wrong.
You still have never acknowledged that the trip I sent you on to California was a very nice thing to do and you complained bitterly about it and I learned a lesson, never do anything nice for people.
It would have been nice.
You made it unnice because of what you did, because you can't admit when you're wrong.
I'm actually very mayaculpa.
I'm all about it all day long.
Okay, that is fake news, but we'll put that aside.
Michelle, I sent her on a beautiful vacation.
She was getting a great reward, a great award.
And I said, her and her family, I put them in the nicest hotel in San Diego, the Del Coronado.
And all she did was complain because I decided on a day that I was scheduled to be off because of breaking news.
It wasn't one day, bro.
It was like three days.
It wasn't one day.
And we can survive without you, but I digress.
You cannot.
You cannot.
Fake news.
That would be what you're saying.
But Michelle, I do have something that I want to share with you.
You want to watch great series about that really inspired me and my faith because I like not only do you read the Bible and go to church and sometimes I watch church sermons online and stuff.
You have to watch the series if you haven't watched it, The Chosen.
Then there's a history channel series on the Bible if you want to learn more about the Old Testament because it's hard to read the Old Testament.
It takes a lot of time.
I've been trying to do the Bible in a year and it's going to take me three years.
And then a new series by Mark Burnett and Roma Downey, or at least I just found it.
I didn't know it existed.
And I found it by accident and I really loved it.
I just finished it the other night.
It's called AD.
It starts with the crucifixion and then the life of the disciples and Paul of Tarsus or Saul of Tarsus.
It goes through those years in the early days of the church.
I thought they were very, very, it was very enlightening.
I liked all three of them.
I think you might like it.
The other two I knew and the one really transformed myself, you know, the Lord really used in one of my children's life, Chosen.
And then I was going to say, yeah, that's great.
I haven't heard of the AD, so I will definitely look that up.
Love things like that.
Yeah, I just go to Apple TV and you just AD.
Roma Downey, who I love, and her husband, Mark Burnett, they're wonderful people.
And I like them both a lot.
And they've been on the program before.
They do a lot of really good stuff.
Anyway, Michelle, I appreciate your kind words.
You know, radio is a heart medium, and I could tell you have a good heart.
And as most of our listeners do, the overwhelming 99% of you.
Thank you.
Jason in the free state of Texas.
God bless Texas.
What's up, Jason?
How are you, sir?
How you doing, Sean?
I just got a comment made from one of your interviews on manufacturing jobs.
He's talking about the number of manufacturing jobs that are available in the United States right now, over hundreds of thousands.
Okay.
Well, actually, we had Mike Rowan.
He said he gave him a number over 6 million, if I heard him correctly.
Oh, 6 million.
He's talking about jobs available in the country.
Well, I've heard around 700,000 manufacturing jobs from other states.
That's probably right, but that's about to increase exponentially when this money comes online, this $12 to $15 trillion in committed monies for manufacturing.
Well, that's my point.
There's a lot of kids who do not want to do those type of works.
And there's a lot of parents who do not want their kids working like that.
They look at it as being beneath them.
You see it in manufacturing.
You see it in trade work.
Are we going to be able to fill those jobs?
And that's the point I'm trying to make.
Are there going to be people to fill those jobs?
I mean, back in the 70s, before the 70s, people move across the country for a factory job.
That's not the case anymore.
People have a long list of what they want from a job.
And a lot of those jobs like that are not on the laundry list.
Well, that would be a self-imposed limitation.
And that would close doors for people.
And they're doing it to themselves.
If I had that attitude in my life and my career, I never would have left Santa Barbara, California and gotten my first paid radio job in Huntsville, Alabama.
If I didn't move to a bigger market in Atlanta, Georgia, I wouldn't have had a better paying career job and advanced my career.
Again, self-imposed limitations.
You know, what shocked me, I'll tell you a story, and longtime listeners will remember this, but when the Balkans in North Dakota were just thriving and they were training people to be drivers and giving them a place to live and starting salary, being trained was anywhere between $80,000 and $100,000 a year and probably end all the overtime that you could handle and great benefits on top of it.
I said at the time, if I was in a situation where I had a dead-end job, wasn't making a lot of money, I would have moved up there in a second.
Anyway, then a couple of months later, I started getting calls.
People heard what I had said.
They made the move.
They were thanking me for the advice.
And then I said, well, let's take this to another level.
And then we started calling companies, oil companies, energy companies, and we started asking them what jobs they had available for people.
And we were partnering listeners that weren't happy in their current positions.
And people were moving wherever the jobs were, left, right, and sideways.
And they were happy.
And they'd call back months or years later and they tell me they bought a house, they got a new truck, you know, things that were unavailable to them just a couple of years earlier only because they were willing to take the chance.
I would say to everybody, don't put self-imposed limitations on your life.
You've got to take chances.
You've got to make moves.
You've got to jump when you're on the high board.
That's part of life.
And if you have an opportunity, if your opportunity is in another state, look at it as an adventure.
I've lived now in six different states in this country, and it's some of the greatest experiences of my life.
I've learned so much about the country, different parts of the country.
You know, having been raised in New York and ending up in Alabama, how you doing?
Sean, New York, talk radio.
Sean, how you doing, man?
Welcome to Huntsville.
Man, you talk funny.
I mean, I learned so much, and I just don't want to see people.
I want the American dream alive for everybody that wants it.
I want Americans to have their own home, beautiful home, and a safe neighborhood with good schools for their kids, with a car or truck of their choice that can take a family vacation, which I never took as a kid.
We didn't have the money.
And, you know, be able to go out to dinner as a family once or twice a week, not have to worry about it, order pizza, whatever you want, not have to worry about the cost, and put money away for your future and your retirement and your health care and things like that.
That's what I want for every American.
That's going to wrap things up for today.
Hannity, tonight, 9 Eastern on the Fox News channel.
Donald Trump saying, no, we're not going to count illegals in the census, and we're going to have honest numbers, especially when they factor population size into congressional districts.
We'll get Tom Holman's take on that.
Also, the power grab that James Carville is talking about, packing the courts in D.C. and Puerto Rico statehood.
We'll check in with Victor Davis Hansen, Katie Pavlich.
Also, the very latest on Russia, Russia, Russia Gate as it is exposed.
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