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July 16, 2025 - Sean Hannity Show
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Truth on Autopen - July 15th, Hour 3
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If you want to be a part of the program, um, we've got some real issues and and problems as it relates to what the hell is going on with Joe Biden at the end of his administration.
What was going on with all these autopens?
I'd like to know.
And you know, we went into this in some specificity in detail last night, but the scandal around Biden's use of the auto pen has grown worse by the day.
So the New York Times does an interview that they published, what, yesterday or the day before, I forget, and Biden actually admitted he did not approve each individual pardon.
The former president claimed he, quote, made every decision about clemencies, but later admitted that he had his staff replicate his signature because he said, quote, we're talking about a lot of people.
And what's even more alarming in this, according to the New York Times, is Biden discussed pardons at with his advisors on January the 19th.
That's his last night in office.
And after messages circulated among his advisors summarizing the meeting, it was Biden's then chief of staff, Jeff Zeentz, who sent an email reading, quote, I approve the use of the autopen for the execution of all of the following pardons.
Now, the New York Times also said that Biden just put parameters around the issuance of clemency for people, but he didn't sign off on specific cases.
That is not the same as him deciding who to pardon or to offer clemency to.
So they admitting here that he didn't make the ultimate decision, that he just put parameters around what his staff can choose or not choose, uh because that constitutional power authority, which is absolute, there's no doubt about that.
It it appears less than clear that Biden made the decisions.
Matter of fact, it sounds and reads to me like he didn't make the specific decisions.
Uh so we have that issue, and then we have this other issue of the report from John Solomon, who we had on the program yesterday at the FBI now is looking at all the years of weaponization of the federal government, opening the door now for a special prosecutor to look into everything, starting with the Russia hoax and FISA abuse straight on through Jack Smith and and the special counsel.
Anyway, here to weigh in on all of this is the chairman of the House uh Committee of Oversight and Government Reform, uh Chairman James Comer is with us.
Congressman, welcome back.
How are you?
I'm great.
Thanks for having me on, Sean.
So I read this article, and I read it that Biden is admitting he didn't approve each individual pardon and clemency here, and that it was his chief of staff that signed off on these last day clemencies.
Uh Biden acknowledging he didn't agree to the name of every person who received a pardon.
I made every decision he says about the clemencies before admitting that he had his staff replicate the signature because we're talking about a lot of people, and then his team used an auto pen on 25 warrants for pardons and and commutations in December and January, but two of the warrants granted clemency to thousands of people.
And then Biden commuted roughly 1,500 sentences and outright pardoned 39 more.
And three days before he left office, he commuted the sentence of nearly 2500 federal inmates convicted of crack cocaine offenses.
And even the New York Times is saying that Biden approved the standards that would be used in which convicts would qualify for a pardon or commutation while his staff sorted out the details.
Well, that doesn't sound like tell me if I'm wrong, but I didn't know that the the power of the pardon, which is absolute for a president, that he could just put parameters around what what the what the criteria would be and not actually specifically sign off on each individual.
You're exactly right, Sean.
Uh he is not allowed to do that.
That's not how it works.
He has to do them individually, and he has to sign with his own signature.
Think about all the time and effort that prosecutors went in uh to uh convicting these people of crimes, of various crimes over the years.
You had a jury in most cases, and you had you know a huge expense to the tax person.
And then all at once, Joe Biden g supposedly gives his uh unnamed, unelected bureaucratic staff or the authority to pardon them.
Just d just diminish everything that was uh determined in the court of law.
That's not how it works.
And by Joe Biden's own admission to the New York Times, then those pardons should be uh ruled void in a court of law.
And I think you know, it's about more than the pardon, Sean, it's about the executive orders, and it's about the fact that that you know there's no evidence that that shows that there was any formal process where Joe Biden told the individuals who were who were putting using that autopin for pardons and executive orders that uh that he knew exactly which pardon or which executive order he was talking about,
he had read it inside and out, and I want you to sign my autopin because I'm out of town.
The other problem, Sean, is that 75% of the time they use the autopin, Joe Biden, according to the White House logs, was in the White House.
I mean, it none of this makes sense.
It all begs to to the question did Joe Biden have any idea what his signature was being signed on?
And and thus far I can say uh I haven't seen any evidence that would suggest he did.
All right, so you're the chairman of the very powerful House Oversight and Government Reform Committee.
Uh you have been doing interviews with people in the Biden White House.
I know you have other interviews scheduled, then you put out subpoenas for people, and some people are cooperating and others are not.
So what is the status?
What are you learning as you interview these people?
We're learning pretty much what the New York Times reported, uh, that there's no evidence that that Joe Biden had any idea uh the overwhelming majority of what was being signed using the autopin.
Uh there's no formal process.
The people that that have stuck the documents in, the staffers that sucked the documents in and hit the power button to sign Joe Biden's signature, never heard from Joe Biden directly.
Uh in fact, in some cases, they went, you know, long periods of time without even seeing Joe Biden.
So, you know, there was a very select few that were were calling the shots in the White House.
Uh you mentioned we've we've had several depositions and transcribed interviews.
We have several more scheduled.
In fact, one tomorrow with uh Joe Biden's former chief of staff uh who who already uh declined uh a scheduled interview we had, so I had to subpoena him and and bring he bring him in.
But uh we're gonna get to the answers of who was in fact calling the shots.
Uh we brought the doctor in, Dr. O'Connor to see if if uh you know the first question we asked Dr. O'Connor, did anyone ever try to get you to uh lie about Joe Biden's health, and he fled the fifth, Sean.
I mean, so I mean there's nothing good is coming out of this at the end of the did he plead the fifth throughout the entire interview?
Through the whole interview, through the whole interview.
The only question he answered was his name at the very beginning of the deposition, you have to state your name, and he did that.
Everything else he he pled the fifth.
Uh we're going to interview everyone, give everyone their due process, give everyone an opportunity to tell the truth, then we're gonna publish a report based on facts, hand it over to Pam Bondy at the attorney general's office and let them uh go from there because you know when you talk about accountability, the the things that I want to see, many of these executive orders and pardons, these pardons like for the Biden family, are you kidding me?
Uh were a direct result of our investigation on the oversight committee for for finding all the the money they took from from people in foreign countries.
Now you've got executive orders that were signed in the last two weeks of the Biden administration.
They were signed using the autopin.
There's no evidence Joe Biden knew anything about it.
He never had a bill signing ceremony, never had anything like that, and they were done for the sole purpose of Trump proofing the Trump administration.
They they're making it harder for Donald Trump to shut down the government agency.
They're making it harder for Donald Trump to deport the criminal eagle illegals.
These were based on executive orders that were signed using the autopin on days when Joe Biden was supposedly in the White House, but he never answered questions about it, they never issued any Statements.
We think all of these could very easily be declared void in a court of law, and that would go a long way to helping President Trump uh accomplish his agenda.
All right.
So let me ask you this.
Would it not invalidate all of these clemencies and pardons, especially in the in the waning days of the administration?
If there's evidence or if he just laid out standards that should be applied by his team and was not knowledgeable about every single pardon, clemency, whatever he was offering people, and he just laid out a criteria for his uh, I guess, staff to follow, uh, and then an auto pen was used.
It seems to me that that would invalidate it.
Is there anything illegal that you can see here?
Well, again, you know, what Joe Biden admitted to was he he gave the authority, he verbally gave his the authority to his staff to use his signature to pardon anyone.
That's not legal.
That's not legal.
So Joe Biden's already admitted to the New York Times, which is funny.
That should have been a uh slam dunk interview for Joe Biden.
Instead, it it it incriminated him even more.
Uh that's illegal.
Uh we question Joe Biden's mental fitness.
Uh, we're gonna try to do some things uh to to create a situation where uh possibly the doctor can have immunity uh to to try to answer our questions, it still doesn't mean he'll answer them or not, but we're gonna try to go to great lengths to to get a medical uh analysis from Joe Biden's doctors as to as to what his true mental and physical health condition was to determine whether or not these staffers were even communicating with Joe Biden.
They they may have just been acting unilaterally, which which the evidence would suggest.
I think everything that was signed with the auto pin, especially on days when Joe Biden was in the White House, Sean, I think everything can be ruled invalid in a court of law.
All right, let me go to this other issue, and and we had you on TV last night with John Solomon, he was also on this radio program yesterday, and you know, we we have covered at length, I can't tell you how many years we spent on Russia, Russia, Russia, and we had a small ensemble cast of us that were able to unfeel every layer of the onion and and get to the bottom and get to the truth of of that entire story.
Uh the most frightening part of it is that they knew from the beginning that this was a Hillary Clinton campaign bought and paid for, dirty Russian disinformation dossier.
And then even though James Comey in particular was warned that it was a political document of by of all people in August of 2016, although he was warned in July as well, not to trust it, he still used it.
It was the basis of not one but four FISA applications.
He signed three of the four of them.
He years later went before Senator Graham before a committee hearing and admitted knowing what he knows now, as did every other person that signed those FISA applications, uh admitted that knowing what they know now, they never would have used it.
But they didn't know then, and that's the problem.
Now, what's happening is we now have uh the door has been open for a special prosecutor to look into everything ranging from Russia and the Russia hoax to FISA abuse uh to 51 former intel agents that knew absolutely nothing about the very real Hunter uh Biden laptop,
all these incidences, the impact weaponization against Donald Trump, false valuation of our lago, a novel legal theory used by Alvin Bragg when the statute of limitations had run out on a legal non-disclosure agreement, which is only a misdemeanor, and he turned it into 34 felony counts.
And and to the ext all the way through Jack Smith and the double standard with the rate at Mar-a-Lago versus Hillary Clinton and and Joe Biden and their top secret classified materials that they had and they didn't get the same treatment.
Now, where do you see this going?
Because that to me seems like a 10-year deep dive investigation.
Yeah, well, I think a lot of these committees have have already investigated.
I think uh you go back to the work that Devin Nunes did when he was there, uh, he was the first person uh when when he was a ranking member of the intelligence committee going up against Adam Schiff to say that this was all a joke, a hoax.
Uh then you've got, you know, there's there's been stuff that uh House Judiciary Committee's done, House Oversight Committee.
I think a lot of the investigative work done.
Uh if if what you're seeing now from John Radcliffe and and hopefully Cash Patel, they're gonna continue to to expose the truth about how this was all a hoax generated by the Clinton campaign, the Obama campaign to try to take Trump down.
Uh I think that the committees where Comey and Brendan ever testified and lied that's perjury.
I think they should uh have criminal referrals to the Department of Justice.
I think I think that uh the CIA and the FBI should issue reports uh and hand over to the Department of Justice.
And I think the the Attorney General should just start start in now and try to get some accountability here for for perjury uh for abuse of power.
I mean the list goes on and on and on and set an example out of these deep state actors.
The the the truth is known now.
The evidence is out there.
There have been investigations from from various committees there have been Senate committees uh chair Senator Grassley Ron Johnson I mean there are a lot of uh different investigations that I think could be pieced together without having a special counsel and just go ahead and start the start the prosecution of these criminals now because that's what they are criminals and I think the evidence is overwhelming.
Well, we appreciate all your hard work and always being generous with your time to share with us and update us on what's going on.
These are very critical issues we need to get to the bottom of.
James Comer, Chairman, House Government Reform and Oversight Committee.
We appreciate your time, sir.
Thank you, Sean.
Appreciate it.
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All right so there was a a short gaggle earlier today before the president headed to Pennsylvania to talk about uh oil and gas and AI and uh variety of issues let me play a little bit of that and then we'll get to your calls.
President, your reaction to the latest numbers from the Labor Department saying that inflation rose slightly last month?
Very slight.
Essentially, they were exactly as anticipated.
Very low inflation.
So what you should do is lower the rate.
The Fed should lower the rate immediately.
Is it because of terror?
We had a big win with the Supreme Court on the Department of Education.
And we want to, as you know, we want to bring education back.
to the states, take the federal government out of it.
A little tiny bit of supervision, but very little, almost nothing, like to make sure they speak English.
That's about all we need.
Yes, Mr. President, you've given Russia 50 days.
What happens now?
Do you talk to Vladimir Putin?
Well, at the end of 50 days, if we don't have a deal, it's going to be too bad.
But what happens Should Zelensky get more aggressive?
Yeah, the tariffs are going to go on, and other sanctions go on.
Should Zelensky target Moscow?
Should Zelensky target Moscow, sir?
Should Zelensky target Moscow or deeper into Russia?
No, he shouldn't target Moscow.
Well, I don't think 50 days days is very long and it could be sooner than that.
I don't think fifty days is very long.
You should have asked that same question to Biden.
Why did he get us into this war?
You should ask that question.
Yeah, and what did he tell you?
Why did he get us into this war?
You know why he got us in?
Because he's a dummy, that's why, and you don't, and you don't cover it right.
But you should be asking that question to Biden.
Why did he get us into this war?
Because he's incompetent.
It would have never happened if I were president.
I'm Texas, sir.
I believe her pair of might have led inflation to increase last floor.
You think they had any war.
Well, we had very little inflation.
Uh I don't know.
Who do you work for?
What?
USA Today.
Oh, well, they wrote me a beautiful article the other day, so I can't get angry at you.
USA Today just wrote a very good article about me.
What's that all about?
So I can't get angry at you.
On Texas, sir.
There was very little inflation, as you know.
The numbers were very good, very much inside the margin.
So we've had no inflation.
All we have is we're making a fortune.
We are taking in hundreds of billions of dollars.
you saw we had a surplus of 25 billion dollars last month which we haven't had in many many years We are doing because I gotta because I'm able to do it.
Nobody else would be able to do it.
We have tariffs going on because we want tariffs, and we want the money coming into the United States.
But more important than the money, there's two aspects of tariff.
There's the money, which comes in.
The other aspect is that rather than paying the tariffs, the country or the company will build in the United States, make their product in the United States, and that creates jobs.
And I would say of the two, probably the more important to me is that.
Yeah.
Are you on the UK's side now?
No, I'm on nobody's side.
I'm the no.
I want to, you know what the side I'm on?
Humanity side.
I want to stop the killing of thousands of people a week.
I want to stop the killing.
I want the killing to stop in the Ukraine-Russia war.
That's the side I'm on.
Mr. President, Mr. President, you're talking Mr. President.
Your daughter-in-law said that there should that there should be transparency in the Epstein case.
Do you agree with her, sir?
Uh the Attorney General's handled that very well.
Uh she is uh she's really done a very good job, and I think that when you look at it, you'll understand that.
Uh I would like to see that also.
But I think the attorney general, the credibility is very important, and uh you want credible evidence for something like that.
And I think the attorney general has handled it very well.
How many more sees?
The Attorney General briefed you on the DOJ and FBI review, the findings of that review.
The attorney general briefed you on the uh on the DOJ and FBI.
On what?
On what subject?
FD.
On FT.
Now there are a few other files.
Attorney General Pam Bonnie.
A very, very quick briefing.
Did she tell you what did she tell you about the UN specifically?
Did she tell you at all that your name appeared in the no, no, she's uh she's given us just a very quick briefing, and in terms of the credibility of the different things that they've seen, and I would say that you know, these files were made up by Comey, they were made up by Obama, they were made up by but the Biden and for you know uh we and we went through years of that with the Russia, Russia-Russia hoax, with all of the different things that we had to go through.
We've gone through years of it, but she's handled it very well, and it's gonna be up to her.
Whatever she thinks is credible, she should release.
Yeah.
On Texas, on Texas, how many more seats do you want the Republicans to draw five?
And then what if California, New York, Illinois, and other blue states?
Well that's okay too, but five.
I think we get five.
And there could be some other states.
We're gonna get another three or four or five in addition.
Texas would be the biggest one.
And are you five?
Are you calling in for a complete redrawing of the congressional map at all?
No, just a very simple redrawing.
We pick up five seats.
And where are we?
We have a couple of other states where we'll pick up seats also.
What's the right?
What was the last time you spoke with him?
Well, when he was in my office.
And what did you tell him when he was in your office?
Uh I told him he's doing a very bad job.
He's way late.
That's why I call him too late.
Jerome Powell is too late.
He's way late.
Interest rate should be coming down.
We're we have a very, very successful country.
We should have the lowest interest rate anywhere in the world.
And we don't.
Jerome Powell has done a terrible job.
And frankly, I don't think he could do a worse job.
He's called everything wrong.
So they had a report come out the other day.
71 different economists.
And me.
You know who is right?
Me.
Mr. President.
Did you know that?
I was right.
Are you going to appoint this first power to others as head chairs?
You must be kidding.
Mr. President.
Mr. President, what are your thoughts on Andrew?
I had to waste a question like, fuck the president.
No.
We are talking to the EU.
And we're making progress.
But look, you know, we already have a deal with the EU.
It's called the letter that was sent out.
I think it was 30%.
That's the EU.
But we uh at the same time we are talking to the United States.
But Andrew is a bulgar.
No, no, go ahead.
Well, Mr. President, your reaction to Andrew Cuomo staying in the New York City mayor's race.
Andrew Cuomo staying in the New York City Mayor's race.
I think he should stay.
I think he has a shot.
Would you prefer him over?
Well, I don't want to say, you know, I'm a Republican, he's a Democrat or an independent.
No, I think Andrew would have a good shot of winning.
He's got to run a tough campaign.
You know, he's running against the communists.
I would think that he would have a good shot of winning.
Well, tell us about your trip to Scotland, sir.
What are you going to do on your trip to Scotland?
We're going to be meeting with the British Prime Minister, very respected.
And uh we are going to have a meeting with him, probably in Aberdeen, and we're going to do a lot of different things, and we're going to also refine the trade deal that we've made.
So we'll be meeting mostly with the uh at probably one of my properties, or maybe not, depending on what happens.
will be in Aberdeen in Scotland meeting with the Prime Minister.
Mr. President, be very happy.
Mr. President, would that be you if they would retaliate the appearance?
Well, I don't know how they can retaliate.
You know, they've made a lot of money, they've treated us very badly, but now they're treating us very nicely.
And I think we'll end up, I think everybody's going to be happy with the EU.
Well, to prefer any plans.
Any plans to meet with Pope Leo in the near future, sir?
Uh, not a plan.
I would do it.
I have a lot of respect.
I really like his brother.
His brother is a major serious Trumper.
You know that.
He's MAGA all the way.
I like the Pope's brother, and I think I'd like the Pope.
But the Pope's brother lives in Florida.
I met him, and he is vague.
He's got MAGA signs all over the house.
He likes Trump and I like him.
The Pope has also been here.
Mr. President, what's the latest on Iran?
How about you?
Iran.
Well, we're gonna see what happens with President Putin.
So far, I've been very disappointed with President Putin.
I've solved a lot of wars in the last three months, but I haven't gotten this one yet.
Uh, this is a Biden war, it's not a Trump war.
I'm here to try and get us out of that mess.
Any messages for what?
Yeah, go ahead.
Do I have a what?
I'm coming to people.
For the people of Brazil.
Are you from Brazil?
Okay, uh in the world.
Uh he's going to trial now, right?
Yes.
When is that trial starting?
When is the trial for Bolsonaro starting?
When we started when is it a goal?
A month ago.
How is it going?
Now we're at the county to find him.
But they haven't found him guilty, have they?
But have they found him guilty?
No.
President Bolsonaro is a good man.
I've gotten to know a lot of prime ministers and presidents and kings and queens.
And I know him, and I'm pretty good at this.
President Bolsonaro is not a dishonest man.
He loves the people of Brazil.
He fought hard for the people of Brazil.
He negotiated trade deals against me for the people of Brazil.
And he was very tough.
And he was tough because he he wanted to do a good deal for his country.
He was not a dishonest man.
And I believe it's a witch hunt and it shouldn't be happening.
Look, he's not like a friend of mine.
He's somebody that I know.
And I know him as a representative of millions of people.
Brazilians.
They're great people.
And he loves the country, and he fought hard for those people, and they want to put him in jail.
And I think that's a uh witch hunt, and I think it's very unfortunate.
And nobody's happy with what Brazil is doing because Bolsonaro was a respected president.
Very respected.
What do you say?
You say that you want Adam Schiff to talk to justice.
I would love to see him brought to justice.
I think I'll tell you what, I think Adam Schiff is one of the lowest of the low.
I would love to see him brought to justice.
Uh, he is a dishonest crooked guy.
I don't know about the individual charge if that even happens.
But Adam is a serious low life.
And tomorrow morning here in Washington, AOT, the coaching Go Ron Mongani for breakfast.
Are you invited?
I I'd love to be.
I'd really love to go.
I mean, I look forward to meeting them both.
I know him both very well through what I read and through what I see.
Uh look, he's a communist.
I don't think our country is ready for a communist, but we're gonna see.
And I don't think that race is over yet either.
You do have a couple of people running against, and I it'll be an interesting thing.
Things are coming out about him which aren't good.
And uh, you know, AOC, look.
I think she's very nice, but she's very low IQ, and we really don't need low IQ between her and Crockett.
We're gonna give them both an IQ test to see who comes out best.
Now, I took my test, I took a real test at Walter Reed Medical Center, and I aced it.
I got every one of all those questions right.
Now it's time for them to take a test.
Anyway, have a good time.
I like Dan Bongino, yeah.
Do you think Putin's that was the president from earlier today?
A gaggle he held prior to going to Pennsylvania to talk about uh the issues of energy AI and all the things that are gonna hopefully make the economy grow at a level we've never seen before.
That's my hope.
Wrap things up for today.
We got a great hand at the DVR 9 Eastern on the Fox News Channel.
Nuke Gingrich will be with us.
Uh, we'll get his historic view of Trump's first six months.
And turn time is gonna join us on the absolute meltdown of his Democratic Party, Mark Wayne Mullins tonight.
Larry Cudlow on Trump calling on Jerome Powell to lower interest rates once and for all.
Also, our friend Clay Travis.
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