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If you want to be a part of the program, there was so much discussion.
Uh, because the president's stated goal was to eliminate Iran can't have nukes, and part two of it was to protect our interests and our assets and our and fellow Americans that are in the region.
That part of the plan that would that was that was in place long before any bomber took off from Missouri or anywhere.
Um, and hence you saw earlier today with the symbolic telegraphed, oh, we're gonna fire back, you know, but it's not really, we're not really attacking.
We just need to be able to save face.
I mean, it's over it's so ridiculous, it's so stupid, but it is what it is.
Um President Trump actually now has responded to this, and rightly so, you know, by calling it uh a very weak response.
And, you know, no Americans were harmed, not one of these missiles fired at our Qatari base uh ever hit the ground.
They were all taken out of the air.
Um, you know, Supreme Leaders saying Iran will not accept any harassment after the attack on the U.S. base.
They told everybody what they were doing.
It was very reminiscent of what happened after the killing of Salomani.
They said, yeah, we're gonna fire all these missiles, but we're gonna miss because they don't want the wrath of Donald Trump.
It is extraordinarily weak.
Um, but it is something you have got to be concerned about because there are Americans in the region.
Uh, these are American bases.
There are lives always, you know, in jeopardy whenever there's any military action.
You don't want to see one American hurt in any capacity.
And as we've been discussing, you know, they gamed out any possible retaliatory strikes, not the least of which is hitting our bases or mining the Straits of Hormuz, which they have temporarily closed down.
And then, of course, we have always discussed the possibility of the known terrorists that Joe Biden and Kamala and Mayorcus and the complicit media that never reported on the wide open borders, and Democrats that lied and said that the borders were closed and secure, but that includes uh hundreds of people from Iran and many that were caught by the Biden administration that then were still released into the into the country.
Uh Iran's uh Fourdeaux facility has suffered massive destruction.
It looks like the their nuclear program has been wiped out as of now.
Now the question is what the future will hold for the Iranians.
Now, there's a couple of things that can happen simultaneously.
When the president mentioned regime change, that wasn't the original goal.
I took it very differently than the way others took it.
I think that's important.
Um it's important to make a distinction here.
And when the president tweeted out, make Iran great again, M I G A. Uh, he's basically saying to the Iranians.
Now remember, every single, you know, every single target was the nuclear facilities of the Iranians, which the president very clearly stated and gave them all the time in the world to accept a deal.
The Israelis have only been targeting military targets.
The Iranians have been targeting heavily populated civilian areas.
And it shows just a whole different mindset because it's a terrorist regime and a terrorist regime that has killed untold thousands tens of thousands of people in the region, and that they have been the number one state sponsor of terror.
And they helped orchestrate the October 7th attacks.
And that's the Cud's forces, the right Iranian Revolutionary Guards forces, although their their numbers, their generals are dwindling very quickly.
I mean, three more leaders were taken out by the Israelis in the last three days, and they know I don't even know what to say about this.
It seems like the Iranians are so overwhelmed by by what the U.S. military was able to accomplish on Saturday night, and the fact that we own their skies, they have no shot at protecting themselves.
Doesn't mean there won't be other attacks.
We've got to be forever vigilant, but I don't want to see an em any single American get hurt.
Uh and there's risks always associated with military efforts.
Uh, but with that said, I I would imagine that the Israelis have far greater interest in dismantling Iran and have every right to dismantle Iran to at whatever degree they deem necessary.
I mean, they have been firing through either directly or through their proxies hundreds of thousands of missiles into Israel.
And if the Israelis decide to take out their refineries and destroy their economy, I don't blame them.
If they decide to knock out their power grid, so that you have instability in the country that would lead to regime change, I don't blame them.
If the Israelis decide to take out the Supreme Leader and the leadership of the Iranian, you know the Republic of Iran, I don't blame them either.
Because there's only so many times you can attack Israel before they have they have a right to defend their country.
And their very existence has been threatened here.
And it really has come to uh it came to this moment because the Iranians were building out two possible plans.
One was the enrichment plan, and and according to every report, they were at 60 percent enrichment, and to get from 60 to 90 percent weapons grade enrichment was a matter of days, not even a full month.
It was just weeks, and so that would mean they were nuclear power, and now they're getting more and more capability in terms of their their missile capability and greater distances involved.
That would be a clear and present danger to every country in the region and eventually the continental United States.
It just had to be done, and the timing couldn't have been greater.
They were gonna go from ballistic missiles of two thousand pounds, which is very lethal, to four thousand pounds, which is extraordinarily lethal, and we know what their targets are, and those were civilian targets.
Um now the question is what will happen next.
Ali uh Safavi is with us, and Ali is a member of the Iranian Parliament in exile and National Council of Resistance of Iran and president of the Near East Policy Research Group, a consulting and policy analysis firm in DC.
Sir, how are you?
You've studied this now, and you've taught at UCLA and University of Los Angeles, Michigan, uh, and have been an activist during the anti-Shah student movement.
What do you make of these events and what do you make of what's happening?
Well, first of all, I'm glad to be on your show, Sean.
Thank you for the opportunity.
I think we are witnessing a historic moment.
I think finally the day of reckoning is arriving for these uh criminal monmas who hijacked the popular revolution after the Iranian people rose up and threw out another dictator into the ashib of history, uh, the Shah's regime, and of course has brutalized the Iranian people.
You mentioned tens of thousands of uh Americans and foreign nationals being executed or killed by this regime well a hundred thousand uh uh dissidents have been executed by this regime in the past uh 46 years including 30,000 in 1988 alone, 90 percent of them from our movement, the MEK, as it is known in the United States.
And clearly, I think we are on the brink of change in Iran.
But of course, the kind of change that we envision is not from above, it's from the bottom, by the Iranian people and the organized resistance.
And actually, we have been working at this for the past four decades within Iran at great cost.
Right now, the MEK
affiliated resistance units uh are active in virtually every city in Iran uh they have been like in 2024 they carried out some three thousand acts of resistance against the IRGC and its paramilitary shocking troops the massive so as the leader of our movement Mrs. Rajavi said a few days ago at the European Parliament it is time for the international community to stand with the
Iranian people to stand with the uh opposition movement the resistance movement uh to uh bring down this regime and I think until and unless the Malahs are overthrown the kind of crisis that we have been witnessing over the past ten years or so will continue.
Uh you know that uh just after the October 7 Mrs Rajadid said that the head of the snake of terrorism and warmongering is in Tehran so that snake must be beheaded and of course that's none other than Ali Khan but as I said it is the Iranian people that will accomplish this joined by the organized resistance movement.
And so the day of reckoning, as I said, is coming.
And we are, of course, hard at work to make that come reality.
But of course, what we need is the political and moral support of the United States, Europe.
We don't want any boots on the ground.
We don't want any money.
We don't want any weapons.
The Iranian people are quite capable and willing to give what it takes to reclaim the country from these mullahs.
um um uh get Iran to democracy.
Let me let me ask you this I think this is very important what would you imagine is likely to unfold uh now that the strike took place and the nuclear facilities devastated and President Trump did warn the people in Tehran to get out immediately and made clear that his his issues are not with the Iranian people but with the government that that rules over them with an iron fist.
Yes.
Well, that's an excellent question.
First of all, the three sites that you mentioned, actually our movement exposed two of them, one, the Natan site in 2002 and the Fordo site in 2005.
But I think what is going to unfold is for you to see that the Iranian people will ultimately come to the streets once the wall of repression is cracked.
And that's exactly what the MEK resistance units are doing as we speak.
They are like the tip of the spear that will make that wall of repression crumble because it is the...
Well, let me ask you this.
The president did not have a goal of anything other than to take out the nuclear sites.
But I would imagine Israel, which has been subject to a never-ending terror campaign and threats to wipe the entire country off the map by the leadership of Iran.
I would imagine that they have their sights on the supreme leader and probably probably on their economy which would be your refineries which are clustered together on that little island and their infrastructure which we made the entire power grid could be taken out probably with just two or three strikes and at that point the Iranian regime uh the Iranian people would suffer and I would imagine that would probably precipitate some type of change.
Well I think that the Iranian people are ready uh basically uh ready for change.
Remember that since 2017, there have been five major uprisings in Iran, the latest of which was in 2022, and ironically, during those uh nationwide protests in which 75 uh of our fellow compatriots were massacred by the IRGC,
the people were uniformly chanting death to the oppressor, whether the Shah or the leader, meaning that for them, the future does not involve the return of the crown and the cloak, which they threw into the dustbin of history, nor are they content with uh the turban and the rope, which the monos represent.
They want a representative government, and uh through the ballot box, and indeed that is what uh our movement and our leader is is promising a ten point plan uh for the future of Iran with uh guarantees uh gender equality, uh the uh let me let me ask you this.
Do you believe that this regime will survive based on what we know now and not anticipating any assistance for regime change from the U.S.?
I do not believe it will survive.
I think uh quite frankly, with what happened uh last uh on uh uh uh Friday night, two nights ago.
On Saturday night, yeah.
Saturday night, apologies.
Uh I think we've turned the page.
I think the policy of impeachment, I think and suffered a great blow.
You correctly said that the Biden administration tried to cajole this regime, tried to give it concessions, as is the Obama administration.
I think as long as the international community uh does not offer any lifeline to this nation.
I think the Iranian people can topple the Mulas.
Because remember that the regime used the windfall of the JCPOA, hundreds of millions of dollars to not only boost its proxy forces in the region, but also to strengthen and empower its repressive forces.
So if that lifeline is not given to them, the Iranian people are quite capable and ready to do it.
Look, they they it it has to come from them.
And and regime change, you're all you always have to worry what's on the other side of it.
Is it gonna be worse?
Although I don't think you can get worse than the supreme leader Khamani.
I do not believe it will be worse uh uh Sean.
You know, this narrative that Iran will become another Libya, I submit to you it's being uh promoted by the regime's lobby uh inside the bathway.
Iran is one of the two nation states in the Middle East, it has a civilization of several thousand years, it has an equated population, it has a a young population, most importantly, it has organized opposition, and uh so as such uh that this opposition is has a plan in place uh to step in the day after and lead Iran to democracy uh very, very quickly.
And so it I do not believe that Ali will be uh happening.
By the way, our movement has tremendous support in the United States in in among members of Congress, a majority of We're gonna we're gonna watch it very closely.
I'm just up on the clock.
Ali uh Safavi, I don't mean to interrupt you, please forgive me, but we're just out of time.
But I do appreciate you being with us, and I I wish your country the best, and I hope they join the free world uh in the future.
But that's gonna be up to the Iranian people in the end.
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Well, Democrats predictably, and this is why 2026 is going to be so important.
It's impeachment, impeachment, impeachment, impeachment, impeachment.
I'm it's all they've got.
They've got racist, fascist, Nazi, Hitler, Stalin, Mussolini, and impeachment.
Impeachment.
You know, it's the same old talking points for them.
And it is pretty outrageous because they you have the likes of Al Green.
He now wants to impeach Donald Trump because he used military force and took out the Iranian nuclear sites and made the world a safer place.
And just put that in a little bit of perspective.
AOC is saying the same thing.
Congresswoman Omar saying the same thing.
And then you got the likes of Chucky Schumer and Hakeem Jeffries that are so scared of their own base, they can't even praise Donald Trump for making the world a safer place.
It's unbelievable.
But of course, the same people that allowed all these Iranian nationals, over 800 that they knew are from Iran, that Biden still released into the country.
Let's see, I'm from Iran.
I'm going to go to the southern border and I'm hoping for a better life for me and my children.
I'm going to make that long trek.
That's where I'm headed.
Okay, maybe some.
I could buy that.
Do you think that maybe the country, the Republic of Iran, maybe sent known operatives into our country?
We know we have known terrorists in the country.
We know we have Iranian assassination squads in the country.
And we just arrested a number of them, as a matter of fact.
ICE arrested eleven Iranian nationals in the last 48 hours.
They're trying to do everything they could possibly do to protect the homeland.
And I've been saying now for the longest time, as this crisis at the border, the most preventable national security crisis in our history, that it's not a matter of if, it's a matter of when we are attacked.
Now, none of these Democrats cared about Obama going after bombing Afghanistan, Iraq, Syria, Libya, Yemen, Somalia, or Pakistan.
They didn't care about George W. Bush, Afghanistan and Iraq, or Bill Clinton, Iraq, Serbia, Sudan, Afghanistan.
They didn't care about George H. W. Bush, Iraq, and Panama, Reagan, Libya of Grenada, and you know, well, Greg Jarrell will join us in a moment.
But then, of course, you've got geniuses like Jasmine Crockett.
I'm the one that's supposed to make the effing decision on bombing Iran.
Oh, really?
Jasmine, President Jasmine Crockett.
And to understand enough about the Constitution to the extent that I'm the one that's supposed to make the decision, or at least get a vote.
Okay.
Anyway, Greg Jarrett, Fox News legal analyst, best-selling author, number one New York Times bestselling author is with us.
He I thought you wrote the definitive column.
I don't know if you heard me on radio yesterday and on TV last night.
I was quoting it extensively.
And you pointed out that Congress already granted consent for a president for exactly the type of action that the president was uh used on Saturday night.
And you pointed out after September 11th, 01.
It's known as the authorization for use of military force act.
Uh tell us with the powers that it grants the president, although I would argue that the war powers act is unconstitutional in and of itself and has always been uh a BS argument anyway, but go ahead, because we do he does have Article II powers.
He is the commander-in-chief.
Yes, he absolutely did does.
And I agree with all of what you said.
Uh let's begin with the Constitution.
Article II, the president's commander-in-chief of the armed forces.
He's empowered to direct military operations to deter foreign threats to our national security.
That is established over 200 years.
Uh, you know, Thomas Jefferson uh on his own used the military uh to save lives.
And you know, a nuclear-armed Iran controlled by a maniacal regime posed the ultimate peril, and Trump had an affirmative duty to act preemptively.
Yeah, it was bold, it was necessary, and frankly, he should be commended, not condemned.
But you know, political fury in the age of Trump requires that Democrats react irrationally and impetuously in opposition.
Uh They pay no attention to the known facts, the law and and the Constitution.
As I pointed out in my column, and thank you for mentioning it yesterday, when Bernie Sanders and AOC say, oh, it's grossly unconstitutional, Congress has to approve.
Well, Congress already did approve in 2001.
As you point out, they passed the authorization for use of military force.
And it granted the president extraordinary powers to target nations that he determines aided and abetted the terrorists or harbored the perpetrators of 9-11.
You know, these Democrats, assuming they can read and comprehend simultaneously, should just take a gander at the 911 report.
It was Iran that actively aided and abetted attacks on America, giving Al Qaeda terrorist training, intelligence, transit, logistics, weaponry, funding.
They even harbored uh Al Qaeda terrorists.
Um you know, Democrats never complained when Obama utilized the AUMF on numerous occasions.
Uh you mentioned some of them, Libya, Somalia, uh Syria, uh Pakistan.
Uh I I think uh the count is some uh twenty-six thousand bombs were dropped by Obama.
Democrats enthusiastically supported.
They said it's completely constitutional and lawful.
Then Biden did the same.
He ordered air strikes in Iraq.
Uh Democrats cheered, but only now because it's Donald Trump.
Uh those same Democrats are howling in protest.
And that's all there is to it.
It's just because it's Donald Trump.
So I agree with your analysis, and people many of them forgot about the authorization after the 9-11 attacks, but let's go to the War Powers Act in in particular.
First of all, no president has ever accepted the War Powers Act and and followed through on an interpretation that would limit their capacity to wage war or conduct military strikes when they thought that it was in the best interest of the of the country.
Um I would argue it's it's legislative interference and that executive authorization as commander-in-chief in the Constitution in Article 2 is very clear and unambiguous.
It's from the 1970s, and I believe it is unconstitutional and violates, you know, violating the article by by trying to take over the the authority of the president.
And you know, but with all that said, the president can also use weapons and military actions for sixty days without any congressional authorization per the war powers act, if we're going to be that that uh if we want to be that specific about what it says.
Yes, you're uh absolutely correct.
So, you know, when AOC, you know, says it's a violation of the congressional war powers, uh, I believe she's referring to the 1973 war powers resolution.
Um, you know, she doesn't really uh realize it because she's probably never read it, but the war powers resolution is a notification requirement to Congress.
It's not a prohibition on military action.
And in fact, Trump complied, he notified Congress.
Uh AOC says it's an impeachable offense.
Um, that's silly.
Uh but you're right, Sean, that some presidents um have actually just said I'm not gonna comply with the War Powers Act, uh, including Barack Obama and his extensive military strikes in Libya.
And at one point in time he said, Well, I don't care.
I'm gonna ignore it.
And no president has ever said it's constitutional because it's not.
Um, but it's never been challenged on a constitutional basis.
So, you know, there we are.
Uh you know, too many Democrats, you know, I I think um have not studied the law, studied the Constitution.
They probably haven't read the War Powers Act.
They just mouth off as AOC did.
Well, it's fascinating to watch, you know, the stupidity on display, but this then goes to a bigger issue, which is the midterm elections in 26.
Now, usually in a midterm, the party in power at the White House uh tends to lose seats and significant amounts, depending on what the year is.
There's only been a few exceptions over the last hundred years.
And my hope is is that the president is so transformational in terms of what he does with peace and prosperity.
If you believe as I do, peace and prosperity drive elections.
Okay, I think the president made the world a safer place by taking out the Iranian nuclear sites.
Uh it doesn't mean we're not going to have problems.
Every military effort has many, many risks associated with it.
It's certainly way more complicated because Joe Biden allowed all these uh foreign nationals into the country uh and that they're coming from countries that have terrorist ties, including Iran and over 800 that they knowingly led into the country.
Uh I have no doubt there are terror cells in the country, but as I always say, I pray to God that I'm wrong.
But to me, that's a clear and and present danger.
So, and then on the economy, I think the 10 trillion in manufacturing investments that will be used over the next four years for automobiles, pharmaceuticals, and semiconductor chips, plus the energy dominance uh program that the president has adopted, and the one big beautiful bill and tax cuts always results in more revenue to the government, more jobs for the American people, and securing our border will certainly factor into people's decisions.
I'm hoping he can break that trend because otherwise we're gonna have, you know, five hundred impeachment uh uh attempts by the Democrats.
Am I wrong?
Uh I agree.
I I I think you have nicely outlined it.
Um Americans are happy that the border is now secure.
Uh they approve of deporting, you know, criminals, murderers, uh, thieves, child molasters, rapists, and so forth.
Um, but I think this one decision by Trump to take out Iran's uh nuclear facilities, cement his legacy as a strong, courageo leader in the annals of American presidents.
Um, as I pointed out in my column, we may never know how many thousands, if not millions of lives have been spared because he had the fortitude that other presidents lack.
I mean, would Canola Harris have done it?
Not a chance.
And of course, we know that for too long, uh, American presidents uh took a playbook out of uh Neville Chamberlain and sought to appease Iran.
Obama Biden tried to bribe them with billions of dollars, only to see our taxpayer dollars funneled into our enemies' nuclear activities and terrorist attacks against us.
Uh, you know, Obama and Biden were willing to trust the Ayatollah's lies.
You you have to be some kind of gullible to do that.
It's like trusting the Scorpion when he promises, I'm not gonna bite you.
So, you know, I think this one act by President Trump will have an influence on the midterm elections.
But of course, you know, in the House, th those are two-year terms, and invariably they tend to turn on local issues, not national, international issues.
So, you know, I think it'll be close in the house.
We'll wait and see.
All right, quick break.
We'll come back more with Fox News legal analysts, number one New York Times best-selling author, Greg Jarrett.
Uh, then we'll get to your calls on the other side.
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Greg Jarrett is with us.
Uh number one New York Times best-selling author, Fox News legal analyst.
What do you make of the Supreme Court in their decision yesterday on the issue of immigration and a huge win for the president, allowing the Trump administration to restore restart their deportation flights of illegal aliens to nations other than their own, like El Salvador, that would be the case of Breg or Garcia, but any other country that they want.
Well, it was a six-three decision.
I think obviously it it is the right decision based on the law.
Uh and you know, the powers of the executive branch, particularly the president when it comes to matters of immigration.
Um, even the Ninth Circuit had, you know, a fairly liberal uh appeals court had tried to remind judges in the lower courts that the executive branch is in charge of this.
Um and you know, but and I think it's an important warning shot over the bow of these lower court judges, but I think the real uh fireworks may come this Thursday of when the Supreme Court may well decide to issue that long-awaited opinion on these out-of-control injunctions by federal district court judges who are exceeding their authority,
abusing their power, they're trying to stop Trump's agenda from being implemented uh by issuing these universal injunctions, and as I say, they have no authority to do it.
Supreme Court justices on both sides of the aisle have complained uh about the excessive abuse of power.
They never did anything about it.
Now, finally, because of their own docket is overwhelmed.
The justices I think are compelled to put their foot down and say stop it.
And I think they may well undertake common sense guidelines and limits on these abusive district court judges.
Uh, Greg Jarrett, great job as always.
We appreciate you.
Thank you, sir.
Thanks.
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The amount of humanitarian assistance that is needed is I I can't even begin to describe it.
Um a nation has vowed to wipe Israel off the map.
We see that they've been taking heavy ballistic missile fire.
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Short time ago, the U.S. military carried out massive precision strikes on the three key nuclear facilities in the Iranian regime.
Four Doe, Natance, and Esfahan.
Iran, the bully of the Middle East must now make peace.
If they do not, future attacks will be far greater and a lot easier.
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Um I don't think enough time has been spent praising the brave men and women That had to carry out this mission on Saturday night, and they did so with grace and precision and professionalism.
Um, you know, you the when you when you look at the laundry list of things that they were able to accomplish, I mean, the amount of of precision, courage, the deception at levels that we've never seen before was was frankly inspiring, and we've got to be grateful to all of them.
Uh I want to just just give you some of a little bit of insight, and we didn't play this the other day, I wanted to.
Um, describing the operation, it's called Operation Midnight Hammer, as you all know.
And uh, this is General Dan Cain, and talking about the intricacy and the absolute amazing you know, might of the United States military, the greatest greatest fighting force on the face of this earth.
Take a listen.
At approximately 6.40 p.m. Eastern Standard Time, 210 a.m.
Iran time, the lead B-2 dropped two GBU-57 massive ordnance penetrator weapons on the first of several aim points at Fourdeaux.
As the president stated last night, the remaining bombers then hit their targets as well, with a total of 14 mops dropped against two nuclear target areas.
All three Iranian nuclear infrastructure targets were struck between 6.40 p.m. and 7.05 p.m. Eastern time.
Again, that's about 210 in the morning uh local time in Iran, with the Tomahawk missiles being the last to strike at Esfahan to ensure we retain the element of surprise throughout the operation.
Following weapons release, the midnight hammer strike package exited Iranian airspace, and the package began its return home.
We are unaware of any shots fired at the package on the way out.
Iran's fighters did not fly, and it appears that Iran's surface-to-air missile systems did not see us.
Throughout the mission, we retained the element of surprise.
I mean, it's unbelievable.
We are so blessed to have so many incredible people that are willing to protect the cause of liberty and freedom so that we can go about living our lives and fulfilling our destinies in life.
Anyway, Dave uh Rutherford is with us, former Navy SEAL medic instructor, served eight years uh himself after his honorable discharge.
He went to work for Blackwater as an international curriculum development and training specialist for two years.
Uh I got a chance to meet him recently.
Uh David, how are you, sir?
Welcome uh to the program.
Sean, I'm doing great.
Thank you so much for having me, sir.
I mean, I I am dazzled by the entire operation.
One of the things that really stood out to me was the level of deception and how the Iranians, they actually created phantom B-2s and the Iran that weren't even in the air, and that the Iranians were firing at them, and meanwhile, the real B-2s that were drumped dropping all those 14 bunker busters uh went completely and utterly undetected.
I mean, wow.
That that's pretty amazing.
I we're I I think what we're seeing now, Sean, is uh a whole new level of our sophistication and technology that's emerging.
And I what I know it does for me is you know, it it sets in a whole nother level of confidence in what our capabilities are and really what our reach has become.
I've been saying for the longest time that we need to build out the next generation of weaponry.
Do you agree with my statement that I don't think future wars are gonna be fought on a battlefield?
That doesn't mean you're not gonna need assets on the ground.
The Israelis proved, you know, they were able to have assets on the ground that even smuggled uh drones and weaponry into Iran and they were able to, you know, know the locations of their top nuclear scientists and the top generals, and from the very beginning of their military operation, take those people out.
I think that was an incredible intelligence and and a covert operation Of a magnitude I don't think we've seen in before.
Um, but I think that the next generation of weaponry, the future wars will be fought in air-conditioned offices and not on the battlefield, although, yeah, you will need assets on the ground.
Yeah, you will need some troops on the ground, but you're not going to be fighting wars on the ground.
From your lips to God's ears, man.
Uh, as a former operator, and you know, I also did a stint with the the CIA, you know, there's always going to be need for that human intelligence on the ground for those operators in conjunction with the larger scale uh operations themselves.
But again, you're right.
When when I think about what those B-2 bombers, what the pilots did, those flying for that amount of time, plus, you know, they had all the other support fighters that were in the the the air, you know, the the tankers, you know, it's just it really I I hopefully war could get to that.
But we also have seen what's taking place in Ukraine uh over the last four years where you know you have trench warfare combined with drone warfare.
So I think it's really yet to be seen what it's gonna look like in the next uh 10, 15 years, but certainly right now, I think we're still entrenched in a mixture of of modern technology with old school operational capabilities.
Yeah, I think that's a great way to describe it.
But well, you know, one of the things that I'm worried about is, and I have a lot of sources, a lot of our munitions were depleted under Biden and he never replenished them.
Uh Biden didn't take any uh steps at all to modernizing our military.
Um when the communist Chinese and the Russians have hypersonic technology, and that's only one system, uh, but we're also deficient and behind in other systems.
Uh that makes me nervous.
Uh granted, we have far superior uh nuclear capability than all of these countries.
I mean, look at the Tomahawks fired 400 miles away from a submarine.
One submarine hits, you know, 30 targets with incredible precision and accuracy.
It's just an amazing sight to see, and it makes me feel safer as an American.
However, we better get very, very urgent in terms of preparing for the next generation of weaponry.
Oh, I completely agree.
And I think that's why we saw in in the new bill that's moving forward that defense spending is not decreased but increased, because I think across the board, regardless of of what side of the aisle you're on, it's it's pretty pretty recognizable that our are in particular the Navy has suffered.
Uh, you know, uh equipment technology.
I mean, I think we're catching up in group drone technology for sure.
Um, but you're right, uh supersonic missile systems, um, that type of technology, you know, auto uh automated systems in terms of there's uh uh develop a new defense uh contractor that's building um basically drone ships to be able to launch strikes in in covert ways.
You know, there's just a lot we could be doing.
So uh in in uh kind of the the evol rapidly evolving modern uh battlefield, which is you know, what's taking place obviously between Iran and Israel, what's taking place in Russia and Ukraine, and then what many people are predicting what's on uh what's just over the horizon is a potential conflict with IR uh China and Taiwan.
Yeah, we definitely need to uh level up, so to speak.
Yeah, definitely.
What are the systems that you think were most efficient at and what would you be looking to build up?
Um I mean, obviously I drone capabilities from you know, small uh reconnaissance type drones uh to drones that can drop projectiles to um uh satellite uh capabilities.
Uh I think uh that's really the future of warfare, like you had suggested.
Um, but I also think you know, cloaking technology is required uh for any type of people you have on the ground.
I mean, some of the uh surveillance capabilities with uh different types of uh FLIER capabilities or or infrared or different types of hologram systems, it really makes it tough for uh troops to move out in the open as we've seen from the countless videos take uh coming out of Ukraine.
So I I think there's a it's across the board, uh weapon systems.
I'd love to see uh electromagnetic systems developed or or any type of systems that can uh really impede drone warfare.
Um that would be awesome to see.
Um, you know, I I think it's really we're on the precipice of uh whoever has the most innovative technology is is gonna lead on the battlefield for sure.
Well, I we appreciate your time and your expertise and uh congratulations.
I know you're doing your own podcast, David Rutherford, former Navy SEAL medic.
Thank you, sir.
We appreciate uh all your insight.
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You know, they made fun of Ronald Reagan when he talked about strategic defense.
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And if you go back in the day and you can you you watch the media mocking him and calling it Star Wars, and they would show images almost exactly almost identical to what's happening in real life now.
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Karen in California, the United Socialist Utopia of Gavanusome.
How are you?
Glad you called.
Mr. Hannity, hi.
Thank you for taking my call.
So nice to talk to you.
Um so and thank you for everything you do, by the way.
Thank you.
Really appreciate it.
I appreciate you letting me do it.
Thank you.
Oh, listen.
So glad you're there.
And so what I was calling about was, you know, I I watch a lot of news, uh, especially since 2016.
And um, you know, uh after the uh October 7th, you see a lot of videos of the you know, atrocities and all the all the terrible things that happened in Gaza and everything.
Well, my point is I think that let me tell you something.
If you saw what I have seen, oh and they won't make it public, but uh they did share it with me.
Uh it would shock your conscience.
It would shock uh y images you will never get rid of for the rest of your life.
No doubt.
I I don't doubt that for for a minute.
I really don't.
Uh exactly.
But my point is this, Sean.
You see so many people I've seen, you know, news people out there talking to people on the street.
Well, what do you think?
Well, you know, uh Israeli where they were attacked on October 7th.
And there's actually people that stand there saying, No, no, that's not true.
They don't act they don't even believe that they were attacked.
I mean, uh, it's just it's unbelievable that there's that on a what's that girl's name, Greta Thunberg.
Remember she was gonna go to the flotilla and the Israelis intercepted her and said, Oh, we want to show you the videos of what really happened on October the seventh, because remember, Hamas video taped it themselves.
They were so proud of themselves for their murder, raped, kidnapping, torture, and beheadings.
And she would she just put her head in the sand and wouldn't watch it.
Right.
I've seen that video.
It's never Been made public because they don't want the families of the victims to live through it again.
But they did show the press, so the press could be very aware what happened that day, and it is shocking.
Right.
It's gotta be horrible.
I mean, you've seen you there's there's been some photos.
You see the blood on the walls and the the drag blood, you know, of bodies they've taken out of the buildings.
And the sad part is I mean, but they but but Hamas, they've shown all these videos of these people in these buildings and blowing up and all the horrible things of the little kids and dying and everything.
So people have seen that and they've so they're so sympathetic toward that, you know, but they haven't seen what happened to the Israelis that day.
It's all about, you know.
My point is it's gotta be horrible.
But somehow I think people should be able to see both sides.
They should be able to see what happened a little bit.
There's been pictures of the music festival.
That was terrible.
I know there's gotta be horrific pictures that people just oh no, that I mean, you you have you have you have parents being murdered and assassinated in front of the children.
Of course.
I mean, you have you have rape at be and be by the way, do you ever see a video of a real beheading?
You know, um I did once before this war got you don't you don't want to see it.
It's it's not something you want to see.
It was horrible.
I I never forgot it.
They had a woman in the street and they were hitting her with uh with a certain sword and back, you know, it was terrible.
So I know it's got to be horrible, horrific things.
But my point is, Sean, how are people gonna but why these people are in denial?
People are actually in denial that things happen to the Israelis.
That's that's the part that you know I know people don't want to relive it, and it's a horrible thing to show the public.
But somehow, somehow people need to know that you know, and and see it for themselves.
I mean, they just let that Khalil out of prison, right?
He's got all these Hamas supporters around him, and people don't even think about the fact that uh, you know, the Israelis were attacked and why they're fighting.
I mean, it's just a sad thing that but they've but they're the videos have come out of Hamas.
They have made sure all their stuff has come out.
You know what I'm saying?
So that's that's basically what I was trying to say.
They're proud of it.
It's uh it is scary, it's really evil in our time, and that's the frustrating part of it all.
Anyway, I appreciate your call, Karen.
Thank you.
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So there was a political earthquake in New York City, and it is probably the the biggest most devastating potential blow to what was once by far, and I said it often, the greatest city in the world.
I don't think it is the greatest city in the world anymore by a long shot.
I think it's been destroyed by uh burdensome regulation, ridiculously oppressively high taxes, uh, quality of life issues have have gone down the drain.
Uh, we're almost in the pre-Rudie Giuliani era of New York City, and with this election of this radical momdani yesterday, and this guy is he wants government-run grocery stores.
Grocery stores don't have high profit margins, maybe one two percent.
Now they they make their money in volume, but they're not making massive profits the way on on items the way you might think that they do.
And of course, he wants free buses, he wants everything free, and then he wants to take what what is already one of the highest tax cities in the country and drive it up like twenty percent.
But something magical has happened as a result of all this.
I was pretty certain that that Andrew Cuomo in early polls indicated Andrew Cuomo was gonna run away with this Democratic primary.
And slowly but surely the race started to shift and change.
And then in the final weeks leading up to last night's primary, all of a sudden Momdani is right there overtaking Cuomo.
And then ended up blowing him out of the water last night.
Now what's interesting is Andrew Cuomo may run as an independent.
The current mayor, Eric Adams, he's running as an independent.
He got another radical leftist running as as an independent.
What does that mean?
That means that there is a possibility New York can get Rudy Giuliani 2.0 or make New York City great again, and that would be Mayor Curtis Sleewa, who's the only conservative with common sense in the race who we you know offer a full throated endorsement of.
I've already done that on this program and on other programs in New York when I'm a guest.
Uh and uh we welcome Curtis Lever to the show.
Curtis, how are you?
By the way, Rock Ribbed all American conservative from Franklin Square, Long Island, check it in, my friend.
Yes.
And remember, when you decided to leave, and I know it hurt you to leave and to make Florida your primary residence.
I always try to encourage you.
Sean, reconsider.
We need you back here too.
And I'm you you you and Mark Simone are New York born bred, and you'll be New York dead.
You are the hardest core New Yorkers I know.
Yeah, but you see, my whole focus is improve, don't move.
We have a situation now with Mandami that it's Chicago 2.0.
It's the socialist Mayor Johnson all over again, and we've seen what a failure that is.
As as I prepared to do your show, I came out of the subway, because you know, I live in the subways, so I deal with the working class people.
I had to go over homeless people emotionally disturbed.
I'm looking across the street.
We're here on 50th and third, the upper east side.
There are five storefronts that are closed.
No lease, no sale, no rental.
The city is in a free fall, and my job is to try to get us back on track with a quality of life.
With Mandami, it will continue to slide into the abyss.
I want to make sure that they are no more Sean Hannities who feel that they have to leave, that we can stem the flow.
And like you said, with Rudy Giuliani, turn things around.
And personally, Sean, you may have remembered it was October of a year ago.
My oldest son was the victim of a vicious gang assault on the Upper East Side.
Vicious.
Almost killed him.
Thank God his stepfather, Democrat Governor David Patterson, jumped in and saved his life.
And they call it a random attack.
There are no random attacks.
You know me, I'm law and order.
I'm the quality of life.
We've got to take back the streets of our city.
We gotta start locking up criminals, Sean, instead of locking up toothpaste in Dwayne Reed's NCBS.
Well said, there's a Wall Street Journal article out today, and I can tell you, living in South Florida, Curtis, and I love you.
And every time I went over everyone on the subway, I would always run into you, no matter what time of day or night it happened to be.
And and I know you your passion, your heart, your soul is for New York City.
I admire it.
Um I i it's unfortunate.
But in South Florida, every Wall Street firm is already down here.
They've they've already half moved out of New York.
And and I'm talking about every major firm on Wall Street, a every private equity company, every major bank, they're now setting up base in Florida.
Governor DeSantis said this is gonna be the best thing that ever happened to Florida if Mom Donnie is elected.
I know you don't want that to happen, but I want you as my friend to be successful.
And I think you could stop the bleeding and you could rescue New York and return it to at least much of its former greatness.
And it did have greatness at one point.
But today's Wall Street Journal points out that this win, you know, literally it's quoting one Wall Street executive after another saying they are going to leave And they are going to move to states like Florida and Texas immediately.
And they quote a number of them.
Hedge fund managers, private equity firms, banks, they they're gonna bail out on New York, and it will be a disaster.
I mean, you know, talk about this guy.
What is he what what are his stated plans?
They're scary.
No police, no prisons, and instead of police protecting the people, he wants social workers.
So for example, Sean, he's been under a threat of late.
I understand that.
You remember we're on the anniversary of me being shot five times with hollow point bullets on the orders of the Gotti family to the Gambinos, and luckily I survived.
I know what it is to be threatened, but he is being protected now by off duty NYPD officers with guns.
Why doesn't he have social workers?
This is what he wants for everyone else, but not for himself.
So we have to get back on track.
And I will go to all these Fortune 500 CEOs, C O O C F O'.
I will tell them, you know me, Curtis, 46 years in the streets and the subways.
We can get this city back on track.
I understand you may want to bifurcate your business and not have your entire business here in New York City.
But give me a chance, and that's why your listeners, they know me.
They know what I've done.
You you've exposed everything that I've done in this city to help this city to everyone in America.
And if they would get online to Sleewa for NYC dot com.
That's Slewa for NYC dot com.
They would see my plan not only to get this city back on track, but to make it safe and secure because there are the blue-collar working class who are now the mainstream of the Republican Party.
That's what Donald Trump, the president has started.
We are the party of the blue-collar working class, and you know, like yourself, Sean, I'm the son of the blue-collar working class.
I haven't forgotten my roots.
I'm in the outer boroughs.
That's where the people pay the taxes.
That's where they get hit with the fees and fines.
That's where they're being driven out.
And if the mortgage rates weren't at six and three quarter percent and down to three percent, they would be joining you and fleeing in fight.
And I'm gonna stop that.
I'm telling you, Sean, you know me.
When I make a commitment, I deliver.
I know that for a fact.
And I know that you will deliver, and I know you will eat, breathe, sleep, uh, making New York a safe place again and more secure for people that deserve it.
Uh there's no doubt about it.
Let's talk about you talked about working men and women, and Donald Trump, for example, is now pushing the big beautiful bill, the largest tax cut in history.
It also eliminates tax on tips and tax on overtime.
What are you gonna do to help the working men and women in New York that can barely afford to live?
And what are you gonna do to entice these bigger firms that hire people with career jobs, high-paying career jobs to stay in New York City?
Well, first off, the veins and arteries, as you know, Sean, because you took the subways, even though you were an entertainment figure doing very well.
It's the veins and arteries of the city.
It's how the working class people travel.
If we can make it safe and secure, many of these people will return to these empty office buildings that have been shut it.
Now, they won't all return because business has changed the way it was done when you and I were growing up.
But you have to start with the basics.
The streets have to be safe, the subways have to be safe.
The majority of the working class people are now women, some of them single women raising families, working two jobs just to make ends meet.
I'm gonna have them in my sights to improve their quality of life, and you'll see.
They will notice a difference, they will stay, and their employers will say, okay, let's give it a try.
Let's give Sleewa a try.
Just like we gave Rudy Julian a uh Rudy Giuliani a try.
Remember, Sean, it was much worse under David Dinkins.
Two thousand murders a year, ten thousand unsolved shootings.
Rudy came along and made a difference.
And I'm consider me Rudy Giuliani Jr.
I can make that same difference.
You know it.
You've seen me out there, and this is what the city desperately needs.
Law and order and quality of life and affordable housing.
And obviously lowering the expenses of living.
That's something I know how to do, and if given the opportunity, I will return that favor to the people of New York City who have trusted me and the Guardian Angels for 46 years.
I can tell people from personal experiences, two people that I've walked the streets of New York with that you constantly hear their name, you know, people scream it out.
Trump is one, and the others, Curtis, you know, and people love Curtis Lee, and they know you're known everywhere you go.
Um, what about how do you incentivize these businesses to stay?
You've got to get rid of some of this regulation.
It is so ridiculously burdensome.
It costs them so much money.
And lower taxes, I mean, that will take away the incentive of these companies to leave, but also lower taxes for the working men and women.
Do you believe you can accomplish that?
Yes, I can.
And most importantly, remember, I'm a Republican who go and go into neighborhoods where the only Republican they've ever seen, Sean, is Abraham Lincoln on a $5 bill.
You start with those small businesses so that they don't vacate, and then you have abandonment.
Then you start on the mid-size level businesses that are getting hammered, and they have one foot out the door.
And then you go to the Fortune 500 businesses who can wait a little bit of time because they have the equity and say, look what I've done for the small business guys and gouts.
Look what I've done for the mid-level size businesses.
Hold your move.
Give me an opportunity to give you that same ability to do base business without the regulations, the fees, the fines, and the perpetual bureaucracy that strangles any kind of development.
You go down to where you are, Florida in Florida.
You can develop overnight, South Carolina, North Carolina, Texas, Tennessee, Virginia.
And that's why so many people are fleeing.
I understand why they leave.
I want to keep them here, including business, and I'll be able to do it.
You know, uh I I really do want you to succeed.
And there is a path for you to win.
And I know it's like nine to one Democrat, registered Democrat to Republican, but I got to imagine a lot of Democrats are sick and tired of what's happened to New York City.
I've got to imagine that they they do know you, they do have faith in you.
And I've got, you know, Donald Trump, remember you said, what have you got to lose?
It can't really get worse, although with Mom Donnie, it's gonna get worse.
That's the that's the scary part.
He's gonna institutionalize stupid.
You have to fight fire with fire in the streets.
He's motivated the millennials.
Remember, Sean, we're the baby boomers.
We are no longer the majority of the population, and you know me.
I've been able to attract young people, especially in inner city neighborhoods.
That's the route.
Uh Trump was very successful in getting male millennials over into voting for him for the presidency.
And many people think that was the margin of his incredible victory, in which he swept through the seven battleground states and won the popular vote.
He got the male millennials.
Nobody thought it was possible.
And I think you understand.
I have that same kind of machismo because when Trump went to Catona Park in the heart of the South Bronx and attracted 30,000 people supporting BAGA.
You know who was in Cratona Park back in 1969 and every year after being received in the same manner by a cross-section of minorities, Curtis Sleewa.
And you know that for a fact, Sean.
That's why people need to go to Sleewa for NYC.com and see for yourself how we can turn this around the way Rudy Giuliani did when he was elected, and people said it's hopeless, it's despair, it can't be done.
Yes, it can be done.
It has been done.
We had George Pataki for 12 years as a governor, no corruption, no chaos.
We had Rudy Giuliani eight years, no corruption, no chaos.
It can be done because it has been done.
You know what?
Curtis, I'm I'm championing you, and I have too many friends, and you're the guy for the job.
I fully wholeheartedly support you.
New York City would be so better much better off.
We'll have you on many times between now and election day.
Thank you, my friend.
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If you want to be a part of the program, I have been reassured by key members of Republicans in the Senate that this issue of the Senate parliamentarian is going to be dealt with.
What I am referring to now, for the Republicans to get this one big beautiful bill passed, they have this arcane legal process that they have to go through, and it's called reconciliation.
This is how Biden passed the inflation reduction act.
This is how Obamacare was passed by Barack Obama.
And by the way, the Senate parliamentarian at the time objected to many aspects of that bill, but that's another issue for another day.
Now, the Senate parliamentarian is not elected.
And for the reconciliation process, why?
Why?
Why it is needed.
It is allowed to be used for issues involving economic issues bills that is passed by Congress.
You don't need the 60 vote thresh threshold that would need it, you know, to uh as for cloture, in other words, to move forward with the bill, you need a simple majority of 51.
Okay, that then gives the Republicans an opportunity to implement President Trump's economic agenda.
Now, the Senate parliamentarian is not elected, and she's not accountable to the American people.
And yet she holds veto power over the over the legislation, supported by millions of voters.
And by the way, there was a point where Trent Lott, I think, was the one that fired a Senate parliamentarian.
Their role is to make apolitical judgments about Senate rules and procedures.
Now, the Democrats want to make this as difficult as possible to make this as difficult as possible.
Senator Tommy Tupperville of Alabama's call for the parliamentarian to be Senate Parliamentarian to be fired.
But if you look at, you know, key portions of President's Trump agenda, the parliamentarian is claiming using the reconciliation process in the Senate that it doesn't fall into reconciliation.
Okay, actually, on every issue that the person's ruling on that just happened to be wrong.
And this has to be dealt with first in the Senate, and then from there it will be dealt with, you know, in conference because there are some differences between the House version and the Senate version of this bill.
I'm not trying I'm not trying to make this complicated, but it it does need to be dealt with.
Um the White House says Congress is debating big footnotes and the big beautiful bill.
And anyway, the person that's kind of spearheading us is the White House director of the National Economic Council, Kevin Hassett.
Uh he seems unfazed by the differences between the House and Senate versions, and that in conference they'd come to an agreement.
Uh but I want to first get your reaction, Kevin, to what the Senate parliamentarian is saying, because he's trying to gut very key provisions of the Trump agenda.
Yeah, thanks for having me on, Sean.
It's great to speak with you again.
The bottom line is that you're a hundred percent correct.
The Senate parliamentarian is playing dishonest partisan games, uh ruling uh stuff has to be out of the bill that should be in the bill.
And the thing though I want to emphasize is that it's still going to be a big beautiful bill.
The president's main priorities are not being tossed out, and um there's changes in language that can happen right up to the last minute, where in the end the parliamentarian case.
This is sort of part of the unfortunate Senate process that the Senate senators set the rules uh and they've agreed to do it this way for all of eternity, and they're playing by their rules, and there are times when it's really frustrating.
But the bottom line is don't lose sight of the prize.
The prize is this is going to be a big beautiful bill that's going to put $10,000 into the pockets of the typical American family.
It's gonna cause economic growth to go way north of three, probably north of four percent, and it's gonna reduce the deficit enormously because of the big uh spending cuts.
And so uh, you know, I a hundred percent understand the frustration that a lot of people have with the things that have been changed, things that we really want in the bill that the parliamentarians are ruling against, but I don't want the headline to be the bill is less, you know, isn't beautiful, because it is going to be beautiful.
Can can the vice president who is the president of the Senate overrule the parliamentarian?
Because the president called on uh actually it was uh Congressman Greg Stuby that called on uh vice president Vance to overrule the parliamentarian.
Is that allowed?
I it is.
Uh it's unprecedented uh allowed and or almost unprecedented.
And the bottom line though is that the hope would be that they'll find ways to change language around the edges so that the parliamentarian stands down and we get everything we want in the bill.
Um but by the way, that did this did happen during Obamacare, correct?
The the the parliamentarian was overruled.
That's a absolute No, yeah, that the parliamentarian originally would was against provisions and then they changed the language and then it's quote acceptable.
Yes.
That happens in every reconciliation bill is the parliamentarian it's it's kind of like you know, every now and then there, you know, the umpire is corrupt in a baseball game, but most of the time the umpire is just trying to follow the rules.
And so the Senate has these rules that allow you to pass it in fifty-one votes, and the rules are pretty clear cut.
But every now and then, you know, there's some interpretation involved.
And so they they call it giving it a birdbath after Senator Byrd was the one who helps the craft these rules.
It's based on the bird rule.
If you want to describe it, you can.
But by the way, it's true that in 2001, then majority leader Trent Lott fired the Senate parliamentarian during reconciliation.
Sure.
Sure.
And and I would not expect that this person is likely to keep their job.
Um and and if it gets really out of hand, then of course then the vice president can step in, and if this person knows that, then that hopefully will help them think about their decisions.
But again, the bottom line, the head.
How much of this is in the hands of John Thune because he has made clear he didn't intend to overrule the parliamentarian.
He's as here here's the thing.
And uh there are senators that agree uh with your position on the parliamentarian and uh more moderate senators that perhaps think, oh, we gotta do what the umpire says.
And so uh uh I'm sure the Senator Thune is frustrated with the parliamentarian, but it could well be that if he just disregards the proletariat altogether, that there would be senators that would say, okay, then I'm not voting for the bill.
And so he's managing a difficult thing.
But let me tell you this it's a hundred percent this bill is gonna pass.
It's a hundred percent this is gonna pass by the weekend.
Um it's gonna have all the things that the president has insisted on, they're gonna be in the bill.
Um, the main headline things.
Uh when we uh Secretary Bessett and I went up to meet with the leaders of Congress, maybe the twenty-first of January, we had a card of the president's top priorities that he ran on, and you know, the no tax on tips, no tax on overtime, no tax on social security, all those things, permanent tax cuts.
We had a card, a pocket card that we gave to everybody.
I said this is what the president wants in the bill.
And the president's bill, uh, his fingerprints are all over this bill, and it's great.
And uh the other thing I could tell you is that I was the dinner speaker for House members this week, and I would say that that the white our expectation is that the Senate bill will be close enough to the House bill that the House members will consider and perhaps be willing to just pass the Senate bill right away and go home over the weekend.
I just Senate parliamentarian as part of the ru the rulings actually ruled that illegal immigrants are eligible for federal student loans.
That tells me that this is a radical extreme leftist.
And the person has been in this job since what, 2012?
This is that that is insane.
You you are a hundred percent right to be outraged by that.
And and the fact is that remember that if you say that you can't give federal money to say an illegal, then the the main reconciliation rule is it has to have an effect on the budget.
So so you can't you can't go in and say ban cigarettes because you don't like them in reconciliation, because that doesn't have an effect on the budget or a direct effect on the budget.
Uh but if you stop spending on something, that has a direct effect on the budget.
So of course Congress controls the first drinks.
Of course, Congress should have the right to stop spending on something.
And and so it's just a preposterous, preposterous ruling.
All right.
Let's talk about some of the other changes to Medicaid and and so on and so forth.
I mean, there are some very significant you know, provision changes.
For example, uh the Medicare Medicaid provider rate, which is the amount of that state Medicaid programs pay providers on behalf of Medicaid uh beneficiaries, which proved to be a divisive policy.
But you know, if you look at Medicaid Medicare, one in one case you're paying three times more for the same exact service than the other, and the work requirement for able-bodied people that are getting a government benefits.
Which is something Bill Clinton supported in case anyone's interested.
Yeah, Medicaid waste fraud and abuse is rampant, and there's a lot of savings that i are gonna be had in this bill because of ending waste fraud and abuse.
And um there are also uh they're putting money aside to make sure that rural hospitals are not affected by uh these reforms.
And so I I think that you know, people are going to some people budget hawks, uh conservatives are going to be thrilled with the progress, but they're gonna want more in the end as well.
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We're really doing what we're dealing with two problems here.
One is the Senate parliamentarian, and the second is the House and Senate versions and coming to agreement on one final agreed upon provision.
Okay.
So how do you deal first with the Senate parliamentarian?
How difficult the process is that going to be?
Uh I know Lindsey Graham, the Senate uh budget committee chair is all over this today.
Um are you saying that you believe that they'll he'll sit down with the Senate parliamentarian and go line by line and get and just like put a comma and a period and get the exact verbiage that the Senate parliamentarian wants and it will still be the same outcome?
It's i in the in the end it's it's a very difficult process to project right now, given the terrible rulings that happened over the last few days.
Uh but in you know, traditionally, what happens is that the rulings um can change right up to the last minute when you agree to changing the language, and it's all kind of like a kabuki theater, because at the end you get pretty much what you want, but you had to say it a different way.
And that's historically the way this process has gone.
Um it's not clear to me that all of the changes will be satisfactory to everybody, and then at that point the senators are gonna have to decide what are we gonna do about this.
Well, what do you recommend, considering you're kind of trying to you're a uh leading point on spearheading this?
Yeah, well, I'm not in the sense that uh the the Senate has to pass a bill.
And it's a difficult process.
So the senators have to decide how are they Well, for the wh for the White House, I mean you gotta navigate a lot of this and work with the House and the Senate.
You know, I guess the the House passed that bill, the Senate will pass their bill, it goes to conference.
Now the Senate, you know, is uh they've muddied the waters by trying to take out very key critical uh agenda items of of the president and by an unelected, you know, bureaucrat that has been there since twenty twelve that thinks that we should be paying college tuition for illegal immigrants, which in and of itself is should be illegal if it's not.
I think it is illegal.
Right.
Well, uh the Senate, you know, we'll we'll see what the final Senate bill uh looks like, but the hope is that the senators are able to navigate uh the bill to something so close to the House bill that the House members can just pass the Senate bill as is right away.
And if the Senate is unable to do that, but you you know there have been some House Republicans that have been, you know, pretty vocal that they don't like some of the changes made by the Senate.
Of course.
And and so and so what the Senate has to do is get it as close to the House bill as they can, given that they've got you know different people in the Senate than there are in the House, so they all have their opinions.
Um but it's my expectation that in the end, and I've spoken with leadership uh in the House and in the Senate.
Uh I gave the theater talk to a whole bunch of House members uh just this week.
And my expectation is that in the end the the House will be comfortable enough with what they get for the Senate that that's the objective of the Senate, that we won't have to go into a conference.
If they're not, then we can go into a conference.
It could happen, but if that happens, then the bill won't be ready by the fourth.
So this is why we call it the swamp, isn't it?
Because this is all swamp bureaucracy.
And you know, it's um one unelected bureaucrat hold up a duly elected president uh and his agenda and a party and their agenda uh is is pretty spectacular to me.
And I think the Republicans ought to bypass it any way they can and let the American people decide in the next election if they support the changes.
There's your answer.
Uh anyway, Kevin Hassett, we appreciate you being with us, sir.
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Scott Brown, remember Scott Brown was supposed to be the defining vote against Obamacare and the shenanigans, the Democrats pulled.
Well, Scott Brown is from New Hampshire, and he made an announcement today that he's running for the Senate as a Republican from the live free or die state of New Hampshire.
Here's what he said.
Hello, I'm Scott Brown.
My life began here in New Hampshire at the Portsmouth Naval Shipyard.
Since then I've had a lot of different titles a soldier, Senator, coach, husband, dad, and the Republican that won the so-called Kennedy scene.
And President Trump's ambassador to New Zealand and Samoa.
My life has been the American story.
But I worry about what America is going to look like in the future for my four grandchildren and all of yours.
And like a lot of you, I'm worried about where this country is headed.
New Hampshire is an amazing place to live, work, and raise a family.
We've been blessed by two great governors, Chris Sununu and Kelly Ai.
But in Washington, we haven't been represented by the right people.
For four years, Chris Pappas has stood with Joe Biden as he opened the border, drove up the cost of everything, and made life just simply unaffordable.
The extreme left wanted the police defunded, Hamas to win, and men and women's sports.
President Trump is fighting every day to right the ship.
He sealed the border.
He stood up to China and he restored our standing in the world.
If we send Chris Papers to the Senate, we'll get more of the same.
Dragging us right back to the Biden years.
It's time to move on.
All right, joining us now is Republican Senate uh candidate Scott Brown is back with us.
Uh I don't know, do I say congratulations or condolences?
I'm not sure what I'm not sure how to approach that to anybody that runs for office.
I assume congratulations because you want to do it.
Well, first of all, um we live in the greatest country in the world, and it's an honor to try to serve, and it's been an honor to serve as a U.S. Senator and as uh President Trump's ambassador to New Zealand, Cook New A Samoa and our interest in Antarctica, you know, pushing back against China every day for almost the four years I served.
So yeah, it's an honor, but obviously it's a battle.
You know, you the Democrats will do their usual stuff, and you know, the party of no no no and complain complain, and so yeah, it's it's it's exciting, and I really appreciate the opportunity to come on and tell people what's going on.
Let's start obviously with this conflict.
If you would have told me in twelve days that Israel would decimate the Iranians, knock out their air defense system, take out their top generals, take out their top nuclear scientists, uh bomb the living daylights out of two of their nuclear facilities,
uh, and take out other critical uh munitions and launchers and and and everything in between and be successful, and then that would be followed up by President Donald Trump wiping out their three nuclear facilities and wiping out their nuclear ambitions.
Uh and then twelve you know, within twelve days it ends and we're now in a ceasefire.
I know it's a bit precarious.
Nobody knows if it holds, but uh that's where we are at this moment.
Well I wouldn't have believed it.
Yeah, no.
Listen, it they're gonna write in the military textbooks, this is going to be studied for for generations.
And in terms of uh what he did, listen, presidents have tried uh and wanted to do this for since our embassy bombing and the taking of hostages.
Uh Iran is a bad actor they were a a bully in the region.
We all know that and as a result a lot of the countries within that sphere uh didn't w had to build up the military and spent more time worrying about Iran and then let's talk about Hamas Hasbollah and the Hoodis.
You know, yeah Israel did a great job.
The president was bold he was courageous and the fact that that the Democrats want to now impeach him and the Democrats have not said hardly one thing about the men and women who have carried off this brilliant mission.
It's it's uh it's disappointing and it's but it's not surprising because Sean just remember Bill uh Barack Obama went after uh Bin Laden.
I congratulate him I said sir you get big balls, congratulations and uh you know he everyone rallied around him.
And he also dropped 26,000 bombs on different countries.
But he used that same authority along with Kennedy, Bay of Pigs and a whole host of other people now the president does it our president and they want to impeach him.
It's it's upside down and it's wrong and that's another reason why I'm running to be there to obviously you know protect uh the president and make sure that he can continue to do his job.
There's one state that I really can't figure out politically and it's your state.
And uh you know it it elects Republicans, it elects Democrats and you never seem to know which way it's gonna go.
Um I mean we've had great people like Governor Sanunu for example, Kelly Ayrt, for example, and then they elect Democrats as well.
And I'm just can you explain it to me.
I I guess it's probably the most independent state of all the states in the Union.
Am I wrong on that?
No I think you're right.
Uh look listen live free or die and we've had Chris Nuno as governor and Kelly Ayard is his senator and governor and she's doing a great job and you know we're blessed in that regard but the the federal delegation over the last decade has been basically trouncing on our our uh New Hampshire advantage you know putting in more regulations,
more taxes, the open border, the sanctuary city, the boys and men and women's and girls sports, you know, fighting to protect the illegals, giving them rights, giving away all of our our money and with it on different types of social programs.
So they're upside down in that regard and as a result of of that, you know, they come back from Washington and and come and try to be a moderate.
Oh I'm the most bipartisan this I did this and I yeah you can cherry pick a couple of votes but in this instance Chris Pappas is like AOC and you know who who is like your your new potential may mayor in New York City um you know they're just uh it's that's the new state of the modern Democratic party.
You know they they they're socialists on the verge of communist and you know they are not that JFK's party anymore that's for darn sure yeah they they really aren't I mean um i it was pretty miraculous that you were able to win in New Hampshire uh I'm sorry in Massachusetts when you did but you're really a new uh a guy from New Hampshire.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Born at the Portsmouth Needle Shipyard.
First couple of days after my birth, I went on Islington Street.
And then when my parents got divorced, I went to my grandparents and, you know, obviously they helped my mom in Wakefield.
But, yeah, I have great memories in Wakefield.
It was honored to serve there.
And the difference, obviously, between the people I'm running against, you know, the listen, I've been a I've been a soldier, a father, grandfather, senator, ambassador.
And, you know, I don't need another title.
You know, Chris Pappas is looking for one.
But, you know, I want a strong room.
America and as a result of what we're seeing now obviously in the Middle East what we're seeing with China you need somebody we need somebody and remember when you're a U.S. Senator you're not just representing your state you're you're you're trying to make sure that the United States as a whole is safe and secure.
You want you're making sure that we can have the tools and resources with our military to you know def defend ourselves and and and that's what it's that's that's what's at stake here.
Yeah.
L let me ask you you know you were talking about the Democratic party this is what this party has now evolved into.
They had an impeachment vote yesterday for example in the House I have not seen Senator Schumer or or many if any Democratic senators with the exception of John Fetterman that has applauded the president's successful mission knocking out Iranian nuclear facilities and it's it's not surprising I d I I mean if Donald Trump cured cancer, I'm pretty sure they wouldn't care.
But this party has evolved into a party of radicalism.
It's not the old Democratic Party of Bill Clinton.
It's not the party of the like, for example, we have this one big beautiful bill that if you don't pass it and Republicans don't pass it, it'll be the largest tax increase in history or the largest tax cut in history.
I don't think you're gonna get one Democrat to vote for that bill.
It also eliminates tax on tips and overtime.
It also expands energy production to make America help make America most the most energy dominant country on earth.
It also gives money to secure our borders.
It also gives money to create the next generation of weaponry.
And as we learned on Saturday night, we need that to stay ahead of our adversaries on that front.
The party of, I argue, of coastal elites, you know, woke elites.
Uh, that champion the rights of men to play women's sports that put the rights of illegals over the safety of our own citizens, even illegals that are gang members.
I mean, look at look at the rhetoric out of Los Angeles.
They've only been arresting murderers, child molesters, uh, gangsters, drug dealers, and the and the most violent criminals, and you would think, you know, it's the most horrible thing on earth.
The party of Abrego Garcia.
You know, this is the party, you know, that wouldn't stand for moms at a joint session speech of President Trump that lost their children because of their open borders policies.
Now, that that is the Democratic Party today.
And you know, you talked about New Hampshire kind of uh that they stay Republican local, but they've they've sent pretty radical, consistent, you know, Schumer AOC uh uh Democrats to the U.S. Senate.
It doesn't make sense to me.
Yeah, Sean.
You know first of all, you're eloquently describing exactly what's happening in our country.
Uh I they're not boy or girl scout leaders, you know, they're they're they're radical uh uh gangbangers, quite frankly, a lot of the people that they're trying to get out of here uh very dangerous, and you've noted that for for months and months and months.
Uh yeah, listen, bottom line is what you have to do is you're gonna go earn the people's votes.
You've got to point out the differences between our records and everything you talked about, is what Chris Papas, you know, cares about.
And you know, if what folks want to get involved, they can go to Scott Brown.com and let's send a message.
You know, we announced today uh we're ready to rock and roll.
And uh, you know, the things that the president is working for, and and and you you pointed out many times as well.
They can't find one thing, not one thing, not one dollar, one program where we can save uh, you know, some type of money, whether it's a hundred bucks or a thousand bucks, it's the party of no, just leave it alone.
Well, if you leave it alone, it's gonna fall apart, whether it's whether it's any of our social programs, any of the programs that people actually need.
If we don't kick the ill the illegals that are getting Medicaid benefits, for example, out, you know, they're gonna drain the system.
And if we don't do some other things and give people a small work requirement of 20 hours, Sean, you do that in a day.
You're like 20 hours a day.
You tell me you can't work 20 hours a week and volunteer and be an activist, go mow the lawn, volunteer at a at a baseball, uh, you know, youth baseball or basketball.
Come on.
Well, they're dead, they're demagoguing it and they're lying like they always do with their little talking point that Republicans are going to cut Medicare, Medicare, and Social Security.
None of which is true.
You know, they're just eliminating waste fraud and abuse, and for able-bodied people, they are insisting that, hey, you do something, even if it's volunteer, as you say.
Right.
And and Bill Clinton did it.
And what was the problem?
He dropped the roles by 60%.
Well, he required how to work requirements.
So things gone so upside down and we we're not motivating, and and this doesn't affect people with disabilities, uh, pregnant moms and and others who have absolute disabilities, and they absolutely need that and I'll fight hard harder than anyone to make sure they get it.
But for people who are just saying, you know what, I don't want to work.
You know, it's hot out today, you know, and oh my gosh, Sean, they got to fill out a few papers.
It's very complicated, apparently.
Give me a break, okay?
Do your jobs, get off the couch, go help out, volunteer, and who knows, you may find something you really enjoy.
All right, quick break.
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He is running as a Republican from the live free or die state of New Hampshire.
I really am hoping.
I think this is a seat that can be won.
Um, and I do have a lot of faith that I love the people in New Hampshire.
They're wonderful people.
I love their rugged individualism.
Uh I love your slogan, obviously.
I borrowed it from my book, Live Free or Die.
And uh, do you expect or anticipate that you're gonna have a primary uh in this race?
Yeah, I don't know.
Sean, I last time I ran, I barely lost to uh uh Shaheen, the 14,000 votes.
I had like 15 people and I beat them by over 50%.
You know, primaries are good things.
The Democrats, as we know by Biden and Harris, don't like them because they have to answer questions.
And, you know, the Democrats here are the same way.
Oh, let's clear the field.
God forbid he answers a tough questions.
I I love primaries.
Let's go.
Bring it.
You know, answer questions, debate.
I'll debate Chris Pappas right now on your show.
Let's let's go.
I'm ready.
Put me in, coach.
Uh well, yeah the invitation's open.
If he wants to do a debate, uh I'll I'll put aside an hour and a half for both of you to debate on this show.
So the challenge is out.
We'll have uh my team reach out and see if he wants to come on.
Great.
Um, but you know, one thing I want everybody to realize is if we don't control the House and Senate.
This 2026 election is very critical.
They just tried to impeach Donald Trump yesterday.
If Democrats get control of the House and Senate, all of his good work will come to a screeching halt.
He won't be able to accomplish anything at that point.
And he will be impeached over and over and over again by you know a party that has been so radicalized, and it would be such a shame for the country.
And that's why I'm I'm warning everybody now.
It matters in 2026.
Get out and vote.
These midterms are critical for the future of our country.
Uh anyway, Scott Brown, we do appreciate you.
And uh, we uh will be following your race very, very closely.
And and thanks for taking our time, your time, and uh we wish you the best on the campaign trail.
Thank you, Sean.
God bless you, and God bless your listeners and America, obviously.
Thank you.
God bless.
God bless everybody.
God bless this country, God bless the world.
We we need to get things straightened out.
We're in the process of getting things straightened out.
We just gotta, you know, really, really keep our foot on the gas.
I want to deputize all of you now for 2026.
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