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June 27, 2025 - Sean Hannity Show
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Freedom Caucus Push - June 26th, Hour 3
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If you want to be a part of the program, I have been reassured by key members of Republicans in the Senate that this issue of the Senate parliamentarian is going to be dealt with what I am referring to.
Now, for the Republicans to get this one big, beautiful bill passed, they have this arcane legal process that they have to go through, and it's called reconciliation.
This is how Biden passed the Inflation Reduction Act.
This is how Obamacare was passed by Barack Obama.
And by the way, a Senate parliamentarian at the time objected to many aspects of that bill, but that's another issue for another day.
Now, the Senate parliamentarian is not elected.
And for the reconciliation process, why it is needed, it is allowed to be used for issues involving economic issues bills that is passed by Congress.
You don't need the 60-vote threshold that would need it, you know, as for cloture.
In other words, to move forward with the bill, you need a simple majority of 51.
Okay, that then gives the Republicans an opportunity to implement President Trump's economic agenda.
Now, the Senate parliamentarian is not elected, and she's not accountable to the American people, and yet she holds veto power over the legislation supported by millions of voters.
And by the way, there was a point where Trent Lott, I think, was the one that fired a Senate parliamentarian.
Their role is to make apolitical judgments about Senate rules and procedures.
Now, the Democrats want to make this as difficult as possible.
Senator Tommy Cubberville of Alabama's called for the parliament to be senate parliamentarian to be fired.
But if you look at key portions of President Trump agenda, the parliamentarian is claiming using the reconciliation process in the Senate that it doesn't fall into reconciliation.
Okay, actually, on every issue that the person's ruling on, they just happen to be wrong.
And this has to be dealt with first in the Senate, and then from there it will be dealt with in conference because there are some differences between the House version and the Senate version of this bill.
I'm not trying to make this complicated, but it does need to be dealt with.
Now, the White House says Congress is debating big footnotes in the big, beautiful bill.
And anyway, the person that's kind of spearheading this is the White House director of the National Economic Council, Kevin Hassett.
He seems unfazed by the differences between the House and Senate versions and that in conference they'd come to an agreement.
But I want to first get your reaction, Kevin, to what the Senate parliamentarian is saying because he's trying to gut very key provisions of the Trump agenda.
Yeah, thanks for having me on, Sean.
It's great to speak with you again.
The bottom line is that you're 100% correct.
The Senate parliamentarian is playing dishonest, partisan games, ruling stuff that has to be out of the bill that should be in the bill.
And the thing, though, I want to emphasize is that it's still going to be a big, beautiful bill.
The president's main priorities are not being tossed out.
And there's changes in language that can happen right up to the last minute where in the end the parliamentarian caves.
This is sort of part of the unfortunate Senate process that the senators set the rules and they've agreed to do it this way for all of eternity.
And they're playing by their rules.
And there are times when it's really frustrating.
But the bottom line is don't lose sight of the prize.
The prize is this is going to be a big, beautiful bill that's going to put $10,000 into the pockets of the typical American family.
It's going to cause economic growth to go way north of three, probably north of 4%, and it's going to reduce the deficit enormously because of the big spending cuts.
And so, you know, I 100% understand the frustration that a lot of people have with the things that have been changed, things that we really want in the bill that the parliamentarian is ruling against.
But I don't want the headline to be the bill is less, you know, isn't beautiful because it is going to be beautiful.
Can the vice president, who is the president of the Senate, overrule the parliamentarian?
Because the president called on actually, it was Congressman Greg Stuby that called on Vice President Vance to overrule the parliamentarian.
Is that allowed?
It is.
It's unprecedented but allowed and almost unprecedented.
The bottom line, though, is that the hope would be that they'll find ways to change language around the edges so that the parliamentarian stands down and we get everything we want in the bill.
By the way, this did happen during Obamacare, correct?
That the parliamentarian was overruled.
That's an absolute.
No, yeah, that the parliamentarian originally was against provisions and then they changed the language and then it's, quote, acceptable.
Yes, that happens in every reconciliation bill as the parliamentarian.
It's kind of like, you know, every now and then the umpire is corrupt in a baseball game, but most of the time the umpire is just trying to follow the rules.
And so the Senate has these rules that allow you to pass it in 51 votes, and the rules are pretty clear-cut.
But every now and then, you know, there's some interpretation involved.
And so they call it giving it a bird bath after Senator Byrd was the one who helps craft these rules.
It's based on the Byrd rules.
If you want to describe it, you can.
But by the way, it's true that in 2001, then-Majority Leader Trent Lott fired the Senate parliamentarian during reconciliation.
Sure, sure.
And I would not expect that this person is likely to keep their job.
And if it gets really out of hand, then, of course, then the Vice President can step in.
And if this person knows that, then that hopefully will help them think about their decisions.
But again, the bottom line.
How much of this is in the hands of John Thune?
Because he has made clear he didn't intend to overrule the parliamentarian.
He's here.
Here's the thing.
The Senate has lots of senators, and there are senators that agree with your position on the parliamentarian, and more moderate senators that perhaps think, oh, we got to do what the umpire says.
And so I'm sure that Senator Thune is frustrated with the parliamentarian, but it could well be that if he just disregards the parliamentarian altogether, that there would be senators that would say, okay, then I'm not voting for the bill.
And so he's managing a difficult thing.
But let me tell you this.
It's 100% this bill is going to pass.
It's 100% this is going to pass by the weekend.
It's going to have all the things that the president has insisted on.
They're going to be in the bill, the main headline things.
When Secretary Besson and I went up to meet with the leaders of Congress, maybe the 21st of January, we had a card of the president's top priorities that he ran on.
And, you know, the no tax on tips, no tax on overtime, no tax on Social Security, all those things, permanent tax cuts.
We had a card, a pocket card that we gave to everybody.
He said, this is what the president wants of the bill.
And the president's bill, his fingerprints are all over this bill, and it's great.
And the other thing I can tell you is that I was a dinner speaker for House members this week.
And I would say that our expectation is that the Senate bill will be close enough to the House bill that the House members will consider and perhaps be willing to just pass the Senate bill right away and go home over the weekend.
So the Senate parliamentarian, as part of the rulings, actually ruled that illegal immigrants are eligible for federal student loans.
That tells me that this is a radical extreme leftist.
And a person has been in this job since, what, 2012?
That is insane.
You are 100% right to be outraged by that.
And the fact is that remember that if you say that you can't give federal money to, say, an illegal, then the main reconciliation rule is it has to have an effect on the budget.
So you can't go in and say ban cigarettes because you don't like them in reconciliation because that doesn't have an effect on the budget or a direct effect on the budget.
But if you stop spending on something, that has a direct effect on the budget.
So of course Congress controls the first drinks.
Of course Congress should have the right to stop spending on something.
And so it's just a preposterous, preposterous ruling.
All right.
Let's talk about some of the other changes to Medicaid and so on and so forth.
I mean, there are some very significant provision changes.
For example, the Medicaid provider rate, which is the amount that state Medicaid programs pay providers on behalf of Medicaid beneficiaries, which proved to be a divisive policy.
But if you look at Medicaid Medicare, in one case, you're paying three times more for the same exact service than the other, and the work requirement for able-bodied people that are getting government benefits.
Which is something Bill Clinton supported, in case anyone's interested.
Yeah, Medicaid, waste, fraud, and abuse is rampant, and there's a lot of savings that are going to be had in this bill because of ending waste, fraud, and abuse.
And there are also they're putting money aside to make sure that rural hospitals are not affected by these reforms.
So I think that people are going to, some people, budget hawks, conservatives are going to be thrilled with the progress, but they're going to want more in the end as well.
Got to take a quick break.
We'll come back more with Kevin Hassett, the head economic council to President Trump on the other side as we watch his one big, beautiful bill, you know, and a clearly partisan Senate parliamentarian trying to muddy up the waters for Republicans.
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We continue now.
Kevin Hassett is with us, head economic counsel to President Trump as we are getting an update on the one big beautiful bill.
We're really dealing with two problems here.
One is the Senate parliamentarian, and the second is the House and Senate versions and coming to agreement on one final agreed upon provision.
Okay.
So how do you deal first with the Senate parliamentarian?
How difficult the process is that going to be?
I know Lindsey Graham, the Senate Budget Committee chair, is all over this today.
Are you saying that you believe that he'll sit down with the Senate parliamentarian and go line by line and just like put a comma and a period and get the exact verbiage that the Senate parliamentarian wants, and it will still be the same outcome?
In the end, it's a very difficult process to project right now given the terrible rulings that happened over the last few days.
But traditionally, what happens is that the rulings can change right up to the last minute when you agree to changing the language, and it's all kind of like a kabuki theater, because at the end, you get pretty much what you want, but you had to say it a different way.
And that's historically the way this process has gone.
It's not clear to me that all of the changes will be satisfactory to everybody.
And then at that point, the senators are going to have to decide what are we going to do about this.
Well, what do you recommend, considering you're kind of trying to, you're a leading point on spearheading this?
Yeah, well, I'm not in the sense that the Senate has to pass a bill.
And it's a difficult process.
The senators have to decide how are they going to do it.
Well, for the White House, I mean, you've got to navigate a lot of this and work with the House and the Senate.
You know, I guess the House passed that bill.
The Senate will pass that bill.
It goes to conference.
Now the Senate, you know, they've muddied the waters by trying to take out very key critical agenda items of the president and by an unelected bureaucrat that has been there since 2012 that thinks that we should be paying college tuition for illegal immigrants, which in and of itself should be illegal if it's not.
I think it is illegal.
Right.
Well, the Senate, you know, we'll see what the final Senate bill looks like, but the hope is that the senators are able to navigate the bill to something so close to the House bill that the House members can just pass the Senate bill as is right away.
And if the Senate is unable to do that.
But you know, there have been some House Republicans that have been, you know, pretty vocal that they don't like some of the changes made by the Senate.
Of course.
And so what the Senate has to do is get it as close to the House bill as they can, given that they've got different people in the Senate than there are in the House, so they all have their opinions.
But it's my expectation that in the end, and I've spoken with leadership in the House and in the Senate, I gave the data talk to a whole bunch of House members just this week.
My expectation is that at the end, the House will be comfortable enough with what they get from the Senate, that that's the objective of the Senate, that we won't have to go into a conference.
If they're not, then we can go into a conference.
It could happen.
But if that happens, the bill won't be ready by the 4th.
So this is why we call it the swamp, isn't it?
Because this is all swamp bureaucracy.
And, you know, to have one unelected bureaucrat hold up a duly elected president and his agenda and a party and their agenda is pretty spectacular to me.
And I think the Republicans ought to bypass it any way they can and let the American people decide in the next election if they support the changes.
There's your answer.
Anyway, Kevin Hassett, we appreciate you being with us, sir.
Thanks, John.
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There are significant implications as it relates to Momdani.
I was bending down to get something.
James Carville even warned that Momdani has not walked back calls for a global antifada.
And he said, well, maybe he'll turn out to be a very skilled candidate.
However, I do believe Republicans will jump on this.
You think?
He said, I can't imagine that any Democratic candidate anywhere in the country is going to be able to escape answering questions about Momdani.
There's a lot of Democrats that are going to have to go hard at this.
I think that it's potentially a very damaging event.
I mean, Crazy Carville is crazy Carville, but he's not stupid.
He has a lot of things.
I debated him many times over the years around the country.
Well, let's play Momdani saying as mayor he would arrest Netanyahu.
Now, I have a question.
Why didn't he talk about arresting members of Hamas, the people that were responsible for the murder based on their population size versus ours of the equivalent of 40,000 Americans in a day?
And, you know, the terror group that also committed atrocities, murder, rape, kidnapping, torture, beheadings, including children, killing mothers and fathers in front of their children.
Why do you need to call about them?
No, he's talking about arresting Netanyahu.
Would a mayor Mamdani welcome Benjamin Netanyahu to the city?
No.
As mayor, New York City would arrest Benjamin Netanyahu.
This is a city that our values are in line with international law.
It's time that our actions are also.
Even though the U.S. is not a signature of the ICC.
No, it's time that we actually step up and make clear what we are willing to do to showcase the leadership that is sorely missing in the federal administration.
I'm never going back to New York City.
I've had it with that place.
Forget it.
That place is nuts.
I think that place is nuts.
Nuts.
Listen to the LA area vice mayor calling on gang members to defend territory from ICE.
Can't make this up.
This is, you know, crazy Carville.
This is your party.
Might want to weigh in on this.
I want to know where all the Cholos are at in Los Angeles.
18th Street Florencia.
Where's the leadership at?
Because you guys are all about territory, and this is 18th Street, and this is Florence.
And you guys tag everything up, claiming hood.
And now that your hood's being invaded by the biggest gang there is, they're ain't a peep out of you.
We're out there like fighting our turf, protecting our turf, protecting our people.
And like, where are you at?
I don't want to hear a peep out of you once they're gone trying to claim that this is my blood.
This was not your blah.
You weren't even here helping out.
So whoever's the leadership over there, just get your members in order.
All right, that's your modern radicalized Democratic Party.
What do you think of this ticket?
I've been thinking about this, Linda.
You can have Jasmine Crockett and Mamdani as the Democratic Party ticket.
Are they governing in some strange corner of hell or like, where are we talking about?
No, no, no.
They would be the Democratic Party's ticket for 2028.
So we have two people who've never run anything, who don't run anything, who barely work in the roles they currently have and want to take everybody's money to give it around because nobody should work because they don't work.
And they both make music videos.
Remember, Jasmine Crockett made a music dance video in the middle of the halls of Congress.
And Mom Donnie.
Run Jasmine run.
Mom Danny, you know, it's like Gavin Newsom thinks he's a moderate.
Gavin Newsom thinks he's reasonable.
The rest of the country thinks he's nuts.
He's going to sleep at the Switch and he does whatever his wife tells him.
This is not a man in control of anything.
Please, let's just stop.
I have no idea.
All right.
Let me get to our busy face.
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All right, Professor Katz is out in the United Socialist Utopia of California.
Professor Katz, how are you?
Hi, Sean.
Well, it's always so an honor to speak to you and to Linda because you guys are the voices of truth.
And part of the problem with what's going on, whether it's with Israel or in New York, is that everybody gets to hear all the propaganda.
You need to start like your own college on how to be journalists because you're always right on everything and everybody else is either deliberately getting it wrong or trying to just push an ideology.
Where's the socialist capital?
New York's about to be if this Bandami guy gets in.
So I pity New York and I hope that everybody gets on board.
You're in California.
It's really not going to be that much different than what you have out there.
It really won't.
It really won't.
And, you know, I mean, Gavin Newsom is an idiot, but I don't know that he's an anti-Semite.
You've got an anti-Semite over there in New York where you've got one of the second largest population of Jewish people.
I'll give you that, but I've never heard Gavin Newsom strongly condemn the radicals in his own party and the virulent anti-Semitism in Congress or on college campuses, including campuses in California.
I haven't heard it.
He should be, should be the most outspoken voice.
Well, he isn't because his sights are on the White House, and he thinks by placating the radical left, and that's that's basically the name of the game now with the Democrat Party is that they've moved so far left.
And if you want to get elected, you're just going to go on the Bernie Sanders AOC train.
And that's just really sad.
I don't know if there are any moderate Democrats left, but I think if you're not a part of the Republican Party right now, then you've forgotten all the values and what America is about.
And I don't know where, again, I always say this: as the daughter of a Holocaust survivor, you know, we've got the people who survived the Holocaust that are always out there speaking about how wonderful President Trump is and the wonderful alliance between him and Prime Minister Netanyahu.
And then sadly, you've got all the people who are, you know, on the opposite side of the aisle.
And we've got a few in our party.
And then for all those people out there who call themselves influencers and podcasters, shame on you for calling people, you know, like patriotic Americans like you and Mark Levin and Miriam Adelson and so many others calling you warmongers.
I mean, those people also need a good talking to.
And they have no honor because they don't understand in this country that freedom isn't free.
Everybody's been hanging around leftist professors for way too long and listening to podcasters rather than listening to the truth.
And really, I think that the alliance between our wonderful military and the IDF, they should have like a new symbol, and it should be the griffin because the griffin is part lion and it's part eagle and it stands for strength and it stands for bravery.
And these people who keep saying, oh, we don't want to go to war, are they idiots?
No one wants to go to war.
But, you know, I had a father that used to say, you never start a fight, but if somebody else does, you better finish it because bullies only understand strength.
And if you capitulate, you have nothing.
And it's a good thing George Washington and all the other generals and presidents before the Democrats got in didn't realize that if we hadn't fought for our freedom, we wouldn't have it right now.
And since it's my birthday, I want to ask you, when are you going to come to California with Jimmy Sala?
I just reunited with my very first love, first boyfriend after being a widow for seven years.
And I want you to come to Orange County, California.
Wow.
Well, that's a great love story.
First, I'm sorry about being a widow, but I am glad it sounds like you found love again, and I'm happy for you.
I think it's hard to go through this life alone.
I really do.
I think it's better to have a significant other if you can.
I mean, you have to have the right one.
And I don't have any plan.
I'll be honest.
My goal is to now stay out of New York and California forever.
I'm done with those states.
I really am.
It doesn't mean I won't go occasionally, but I have a different recommendation for you.
Maybe, you know, if this is Mr. Wright, you know, you guys can get married and why don't you move to the free state of Florida or move to Texas.
You have options.
You can move to Tennessee.
There's so many, South Carolina is nice.
North Carolina is nice.
It depends on the weather.
If you like Vegas, you can move to Vegas.
If you like Nevada, you can move to Arizona.
There's so many nicer places that don't, you know, where government doesn't abuse people.
You know, the beauty of California is, you know, California, Florida matches it.
I happen to love states that have a lot of water and, you know, ocean.
And, you know, I love that about Florida.
I love that about California.
I mean, the Pacific Coast Highway is one of the most beautiful highways to drive in the entire country.
But they make it impossible for people to really raise their families in a way that they feel comfortable.
They want to indoctrinate your kids.
Their school system sucks.
Their level of taxation sucks.
Their bureaucracy is out of control.
They want to control every aspect of your life.
And, you know, I just believe in living in a more free state.
Anyway, that's my challenge, Professor.
Congratulations.
God bless you.
And I don't know.
I'll think about going to California.
I'll think about it.
But I probably won't stay very long.
Just in and out.
Because if Gavin finds out I'm there, I'll probably be arrested.
Back to our busy phones.
Ken, North Carolina.
What's up, Ken?
How are you, sir?
Thank you for taking my call.
Thank you.
I've been to your with Franklin Graham to visit with you a few times, and I was his chief of staff for several years, and also Nancy Reagan's director of projects back in the day.
So I've got some history, and I'm also a Jewish believer in Jesus.
So I have a different perspective on a lot of things.
And I was on the phone this friend from Israel, and he is a journalist there.
But he was down in the Gaza with some of the soldiers.
And I asked him, What is their take on things?
What do they want?
And first of all, the reason that we could take out Iran, Israel could take out Iran so easily, was because it was a plan for over 10 years, as we've heard.
With Hamas, they weren't prepared at all for the Hamas October 7th-ish.
Obviously, that's why it was a surprise.
But trying to locate chief leaders and find them and take them out has been very difficult.
And the ceasefire isn't affecting Hamas.
They're still killing people, as we know.
And one of the reasons they said it is because the technology is not getting to them.
They've got drones now that can pick up blood samples and things like that, but it hasn't been developed enough to use it and take out those key leaders.
But most of the, the biggest question I asked was: how do they feel about taking out the whole regime?
And I'll guarantee you, the people in Israel.
Listen, I think America has the president had a whole different agenda here.
Iran can't have nukes, and you have to listen to what the president's agenda is.
And he took out the nuclear weapons.
And the president has been very, very clear.
He's not going to get American troops involved in forever wars.
I agree with the president on that.
Now, with that said, Israel is our closest ally, and I think deserves our support in their war against radical Islamic terrorism.
I think it's in our best interest, the world's best interest, to not let this cancer grow.
I think it's critical.
And I think it's very, very important that the president took this stand.
And just like when he took out Soleimani and Baghdadi and when he took out the ISIS Caliphate and dropped the mother of all bombs on Afghanistan, he didn't get us into forever war and he accomplished the mission of making the world more safe and secure.
And I think that, you know, the Trump doctrine is the Hannity doctrine, peace through strength.
And I think in this case, there's got to be a heavy dose of trust, but verify with the Iranians because I don't trust them.
Anyway, my friend, I appreciate your good call.
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