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June 27, 2025 - Sean Hannity Show
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Freedom Caucus Push - June 26th, Hour 3
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If you want to be a part of the program, I have been reassured by key members of Republicans in the Senate that this issue of the Senate Parliamentarian is going to be dealt with.
What I am referring to now for the Republicans to get this one big beautiful bill passed, they have this arcane legal process that they have to go through, and it's called reconciliation.
This is how Biden passed the inflation reduction act.
This is how Obamacare was was passed by Barack Obama.
And by the way, the Senate Parliamentarian at the time objected to many aspects of that bill, but that's another issue for another day.
Um now the Senate parliamentarian is not elected.
And for the reconciliation process, why why why it is needed, it is allowed to be used for issues involving economic issues uh uh bills that is passed by Congress.
You don't need the 60 vote thresh threshold that would needed, you know, to uh as for cloture, in other words, to move forward with the bill, you need a simple majority of fifty-one.
Okay, that then gives the Republicans an opportunity to implement President Trump's economic agenda.
Now, the Senate parliamentarian is not elected, and she's not accountable to the American people, and yet she holds veto power over the over the legislation supported by millions of voters.
Uh and by the way, there was a point where Trent Lott, I think, was the one that fired a Senate parliamentarian.
Their their role is to make a political judgments about Senate rules and procedures.
Now, the Democrats want to make this as difficult as possible.
Uh Senator Tommy Caberville of Alabama's call for the parliament to be Senate Parliamentarian to be fired.
Uh, but if you look at you know, key portions of President's Trump agenda, the parliamentarian is claiming using the reconciliation process in the Senate that it doesn't fall into reconciliation.
Uh okay, actually, on every issue that the person's ruling on, they just happen to be wrong.
And uh this has to be dealt with first in the Senate, and then from there it will be dealt with, you know, in conference, because there are some differences between the House version and the Senate version of this bill.
I'm not trying, I'm not trying to make this complicated, but it it does need to be dealt with.
Um, the White House says Congress is debating big footnotes and the big beautiful bill.
And anyway, the person that's kind of spearheading this is the White House director of the National Economic Council, Kevin Hassett.
Uh he seems unfazed by the differences between the House and Senate versions, and that in conference they'd come to an agreement.
Uh, but I want to first get your reaction, Kevin, to what the Senate Parliamentarian is saying because he's trying to gut very key provisions of the Trump agenda.
Yeah, thanks for having me on, Sean.
It's great to speak with you again.
The bottom line is that you're a hundred percent correct.
The Senate parliamentarian is playing dishonest partisan games, uh ruling uh stuff has to be out of the bill that should be in the bill.
And the thing though I want to emphasize is that it's still going to be a big beautiful bill.
The president's main priorities are not being tossed out, and um there's changes in language that can happen right up to the last minute, where in the end the parliamentarian caves.
This is sort of part of the unfortunate Senate process that the Senate Senators set the rules uh and they've agreed to do it this way for all of eternity, and they're playing by their rules, and there are times when it's really frustrating.
But the bottom line is don't lose sight of the prize.
The prize is this is gonna be a big beautiful bill that's gonna put ten thousand dollars into the pockets of the typical American family, it's gonna cause economic growth to go way north of three, probably north of four percent, and it's gonna reduce the deficit enormously because of the big uh spending cuts.
And so uh, you know, I a hundred percent understand the frustration that a lot of people have with the things that have been changed, things that we really want in the bill that the parliamentarians are ruling against, but I don't want the headline to be the bill is less you know isn't beautiful because it is going to be beautiful.
Can can the vice president who is the president of the Senate overrule the parliamentarian?
Because the president called on the uh actually it was uh Congressman Greg Stooby that called on uh Vice President Vance to overrule the parliamentarian.
Is that allowed?
I it is.
Uh it's unprecedented but allowed and or almost unprecedented.
And the bottom line though is that the hope would be that they'll find ways to change language around the edges so that the parliamentarian stands down and we get everything we want in the bill.
Um but by the way, that did this did happen during Obamacare, correct?
The the the parliamentarian was overruled.
That's a absolute.
No, yeah, that the parliamentarian originally would was against provisions and then they changed the language and then it's quote acceptable.
Yes.
That happens in every reconciliation bill is the parliamentarian it's it's kind of like you know, every now and then there, you know, the umpire is corrupt in a baseball game, but most of the time the umpire is just trying to follow the rules.
And so the Senate has these rules that allow you to pass it in 51 votes, and the rules are pretty clear cut, but every now and then, you know, there there's some interpretation involved.
And so they they call it giving it a birdbath after Senator Byrd was the one who helps craft these rules.
It's based on the bird rules.
If you want to describe it, you can.
But by the way, uh it's true that in 2001, then Majority Leader Trent Lott fired the Senate parliamentarian during reconciliation.
Sure.
Sure.
And and I would not expect that this person is likely to keep their job.
Um and if it gets really out of hand, then of course then the vice president can step in, and if this person knows that, then that hopefully will help them think about their decisions.
So again, the bottom line, the head.
How much of this is in the hands of John Thune because he has made clear he didn't intend to overrule the parliamentarian.
He's uh as here here's the thing.
The the Senate has lots of senators, and uh there are senators that agree uh with your position on the parliamentarian and uh more moderate senators that perhaps think oh, we gotta do what the umpire says.
And so uh uh I'm sure that Senator Thune is frustrated with the parliamentarian, but it could well be that if he just disregards the parliamentarian altogether that there would be senators that would say, okay, then I'm not voting for the bill.
And so he's managing a difficult thing.
But let me tell you this.
It's a hundred percent this bill is gonna pass.
It's a hundred percent this is gonna pass by the weekend.
Um it's gonna have all the things that the president has insisted on, they're gonna be in the bill.
Um, the main headline things.
Uh when we uh Secretary Dustin and I went up to meet with the leaders of Congress maybe the twenty-first of January, we had a card of the president's top priorities that he ran on and you know the no tax on tips, no tax on overtime, no tax on social security, all those things, permanent tax cuts.
We had a card, a pocket card, that we gave to everybody.
It said this is what the President wants in the bill.
And the President's bill, uh his figure fits are all over this bill, and it's great.
And uh the other thing I can tell you is that I was a dinner speaker for House members this week.
And I would say that that the white our expectation is that the Senate bill will be close enough to the House bill that the House members will consider and perhaps be willing to just pass the Senate bill right away and go home over the weekend.
So the Senate parliamentarian is part of the ru the rulings actually ruled that illegal immigrants are eligible for federal student loans.
That tells me that this is a radical extreme leftist and the person has been in this job since what, 2012?
This is that that is insane.
You you are a hundred percent right to be outraged by that.
And and the fact is that remember that if you say that you can't give federal money to say an illegal, then the the the main reconciliation rule is it has to have an effect on the budget.
So so you can't you can't go in and say ban cigarettes because you don't like them in reconciliation because that doesn't have an effect on the budget or a direct effect on the budget.
But if you stop spending on something that has a direct effect on the budget.
So of course Congress controls the first strings of course Congress should have the right to stop spending on something.
And and so it's just a preposterous preposterous ruling.
Alright let's talk about some of the other changes to Medicaid and and so on and so forth.
I mean there are some very significant you know provision changes.
For example uh the Medicare Medicaid provider rate which is the amount that state Medicaid programs pay providers on behalf of Medicaid uh beneficiaries which proved to be a divisive policy but you know if you look at Medicaid Medicare one in one case you're paying three times more for the same exact service than the other and the work requirement for able bodied people that are are getting a government benefits.
Which is something Bill Clinton supported in case anyone's interested.
Yeah, Medicaid waste, fraud, and abuse is rampant, and there's a lot of savings that are going to be had in this bill because of ending waste, fraud, and abuse.
And there are also, they're putting money aside to make sure that rural hospitals are not affected by these reforms.
And so I think that people are going to, some people, budget hawks, conservatives, are going to be thrilled, with the progress but they're gonna want more in the end as well.
Gotta take a quick break we'll come back more with Kevin Hassett head of uh the head economic council to President Trump on the other side as we watch his one big beautiful bill you know and a uh clearly partisan Senate parliamentarian trying uh to muddy up the waters for Republicans there will be a solution that much I can tell you more on the other side than we'll get to your calls coming up.
We continue now Kevin Hassett is with us head economic counsel to President Trump as we are getting an update on the one big beautiful bill.
We're really doing what we're dealing with two problems here.
One is the Senate parliamentarian and the second is the House and Senate versions and and coming to agreement on one final agreed upon provision.
Okay.
So how do you deal first with the Senate parliamentarian?
How difficult the process is that going to be uh I know Lindsey Graham, the Senate uh budget committee chair is all over this today.
Um are you saying that you believe that they'll he'll sit down with the Senate parliamentarian and go line by line and get and just like put a comma and a period and get the exact verbiage that the Senate parliamentarian wants and it will still be the same outcome it's i in the in the end it's it's a very difficult process to project right now given the terrible rulings that happened over the last few days.
But in you know traditionally what happens is that the the rulings um can change right up to the last minute when you agree to changing the language and it's all kind of like a kabuki theater because at the end you get pretty much what you want, but you had to say it a different way.
And that's historically the way this process has gone.
Um it's not clear to me that all of the changes will be satisfactory to everybody, and then at that point the senators are gonna have to decide what are we gonna do about this.
Well, what do you recommend, considering you're kind of trying to you're a uh leading point on spearheading this?
Yeah, well, I'm not in the sense that uh the the Senate has to pass a bill.
And it's a difficult process, so the senators have to decide how are they Well for the w for the White House.
I mean, you gotta navigate a lot of this and work with the House and the Senate.
You know, I guess the the House passed their bill, the Senate will pass their bill goes to conference.
Now the Senate, you know, is they've muddied the waters by trying to take out very key critical uh agenda items of of the president and by an unelected, you know, bureaucrat that has been there since twenty twelve that thinks that we should be paying college tuition for illegal immigrants, which in and of itself is should be illegal if it's not.
I think it is illegal.
Right.
Well, uh the Senate, you know, we'll we'll see what the final Senate bill uh looks like, but the hope is that the senators are able to navigate uh the bill to something so close to the House bill that the House members can just pass the Senate bill as is right away.
And if the Senate is unable to do that, but you you know there have been some House Republicans that have been, you know, pretty vocal that they don't like some of the changes made by the Senate.
Of course.
And and so and so what the Senate has to do is get it as close to the House bill as they can, given that they've got you know different people in the Senate than there are in the House, so they all have their opinions.
Um but it's my expectation that in the end, and I've spoken with leadership uh in the House of the Senate, uh I gave the dinner talk to a whole bunch of House members uh just this week.
And my expectation is that in the end the the House will be comfortable enough with what they get from the Senate that that's the objective of the Senate that we won't have to go into a conference.
If they're not, then we can go into a conference.
It could happen.
But if that happens, then the bill won't be ready by the fourth.
So this is why we call it the swamp, isn't it?
Because this is all swamp bureaucracy, and you know, it's um one unelected bureaucrat hold up a duly elected president uh and his agenda and a party and their agenda uh is pretty spectacular to me.
And I think the Republicans ought to bypass it any way they can and let the American people decide in the next election if they support the changes.
There's your answer.
Uh anyway, Kevin Hassett, we appreciate you being with us, sir.
Thanks, John.
Yep, bye-bye.
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The the there are significant implications as it relates to Mam Dani.
I was bending down against something.
James Carville even warned that Mam Dani has not walked back calls for a global antifata.
And he said, Well, maybe it'll he'll turn out to be a very skilled candidate.
However, I do believe Republicans will jump on those, you think?
He said, I can't imagine that any democratic candidate anywhere in the country is going to be able to escape answering questions about Mam Dani.
There's a lot of Democrats that are gonna have to go hard at this.
I think that it's potentially a very damaging event.
I mean, Crazy Carvel is crazy Carval, but he's not stupid.
He's a lot of things.
I debated him many times over the years around the country.
Well, let's play uh Mom Daniel is mayor he would arrest Netanyahu.
Now I have a question.
Why didn't he talk about arresting members of Hamas, the people that were responsible for the murder based on their population size versus ours of the equivalent of forty thousand Americans in a day, and you know, the the the terror group that also committed atrocities, murder, rape, kidnapping, torture, beheadings, including children, killing mothers and fathers in front of their children.
Why need to call about them?
No, he's talking about arresting Netanyahu.
Would a Mayor Mam Dani welcome Benjamin Netanyahu to the city.
No.
As mayor, New York City would arrest Benjamin Netanyahu.
This is a city that our values are in line with international law.
It's time that our actions are also.
Even though the U.S. is not a signature of the ICC.
No, it's time that we actually step up and make clear what we are willing to do to showcase the leadership that is sorely missing in the federal administration.
I'm never going back to New York City.
I'm the I've had it with that place.
Forget it.
Place is nuts.
I think that place is nuts.
Nuts.
Listen to the L.A. area vice mayor calling on gang members to defend territory from ICE.
Can't make this up.
This is a you know crazy carvel.
This is your party.
Might want to weigh in on this.
I want to know where all the cholens are at.
In Los Angeles.
18th Street Florence.
Yeah, where's the leadership at?
Because you guys are on the Bell Territory, and this is 18th Street, and this is Corancy.
You guys tag everything up, claiming hood.
And now that your hood's being invaded by the biggest gang there is, there ain't a peep out of you.
We're out there like fighting our turf protecting our turf, protecting our people.
And like where are you at?
I don't want to hear it.
Peep out of you once they're gone, trying to claim that this is my blood.
This was not your black.
You weren't even here helping out.
So whoever's the leadership over there, just get your members in order.
All right, that's your modern radicalized Democratic Party.
What do you think of this ticket?
I'm I've been thinking about this, Linda.
You can have Jasmine Crockett and Mom Donnie as the Democratic Party ticket.
Are they are they are they governing in some strange corner of hell or like where are we talking about?
No, no, no.
They would be the Democratic Party's ticket for 2028.
So we have two people who've never run anything, who don't run anything, who barely work in the roles they currently have and want to take everybody's money to give it around because nobody should work because they don't work.
And they both make music videos.
Remember, Jasmine Crockett made it a music dance video in the middle of the halls of Congress.
And Mom Donnie was a rapper.
I think this would be a great ticket.
Run Jasmine Run.
Mom Donnie, you know, it's like Gavin Newsom thinks he's a moderate.
Gavin Newsom thinks he's reasonable.
The rest of the country thinks he's not asleep at the switch and he does whatever his wife tells him.
This is not a man in control of anything.
Please, let's just stop.
I have no idea.
All right, let me get to our busy free.
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All right, Professor Katz is out in the United Socialist Utopia of California.
Professor Katz, how are you?
Hi, Sean.
Well, it's always so an honor to speak to you and to Linda because you guys are the voices of truth, and part of the problem with what's going on, whether it's with Israel or in New York, is that everybody gets to hear all the propaganda.
Um you need to start like your own college on how to be journalists, um, because you were always right on everything, and everybody else is either deliberately getting it wrong or trying to just push an ideology.
Um for where's the socialist capital?
New York's about to be if this Mandami guy gets in.
So I pity New York, and I hope that everybody gets on board.
You're in California.
It's really not gonna be that much different than what you have out there.
It really won't.
It really won't.
And you know, I mean, you know, Gavin Newsom is an idiot, but you know, I don't know that he's an anti-Semite.
You've got an anti-Semite over there in New York where you've got one of the uh second largest population of of Jewish people.
Uh I'll I'll I'll give you that, but I've never heard Gavin Newsom strongly condemn the radicals in his own party and the virulent anti-Semitism in Congress or on college campuses, including campuses in California.
I haven't heard it.
He should be, should be the most outspoken voice.
Well, he isn't because his sites are on the White House, and he thinks by placating the radical left, um, and that's that's basically the name of the game now with the Democrat Party is that they've moved so far left, and if you want to get elected, you're just gonna go on the Bernie Sanders AOC train.
Um, and that's just really sad.
I don't know if there are any moderate Democrats left, but I think I if you're not a part of the Republican Party right now, then you've forgotten all the values and what America's about.
And I don't know where, again, I always say this, um, as the daughter of a Holocaust survivor, um, you know, we've got the people who survived the Holocaust that are always out there speaking about how wonderful President Trump is and the wonderful alliance between him and Prime Minister Netanyahu.
And then sadly you've got all the people who are, you know, on the opposite side of the aisle.
And we've got a few in our party, and then for all those people out there who call themselves influencers and podcasters, shame on you for calling people, you know, like uh patriotic Americans like you and Mark Levin and if Miriam Adelson and so many others calling you warmgers.
I mean, those people also need a good talking to.
Um, and they have no honor because they don't understand in this country that freedom isn't free.
Everybody's been hanging around leftist professors for way too long, um, and and listening to podcasters rather than listening to the truth.
And really, I think that the alliance between the our wonderful military and the IDF, um, they should have like a new symbol, and it should be the Griffin, because the Griffin is part lion and it's it's part eagle, and it stands for for strength and it stands for bravery.
Um, and these people who keep saying, Oh, we don't want to go to war, are they idiots?
No one wants to go to war.
But you know, I had a father that used to say you never start a fight, but if somebody else does, you better finish it because bullies only understand strength.
And if you capitulate, you have nothing.
And it's a good thing George Washington and and all the other generals and presidents uh before you know the Democrats got in, didn't realize that if we hadn't fought for our freedom, we wouldn't have it right now.
Um and since my birthday, I want to ask you, when are you gonna come to California with Jimmy Selah?
Um, I just reunited with my very first love first boyfriend after being a widow for seven years, and I want you to come to Orange County, California.
Wow.
Well, that's a great love story.
Um, first I'm sorry about being a widow.
Um, and uh uh, but I am glad it sounds like you found love again, and I'm happy for you.
Um I think it's hard to go through this life alone.
I really do.
I think it's better to have a significant other if you can.
I mean, you have to have the right one.
And um I I don't have any plan.
I I'll be honest.
My goal is to now stay out of New York and California forever.
I'm done with those states.
I really am.
Doesn't mean I won't go occasionally, rare, but um I I might I have a different recommendation for you.
Maybe, you know, if this is Mr. Wright, you know, you guys can get married, and why don't you move to the free state of Florida or move to Texas?
You have options, you can move to Tennessee.
It is there's uh so many South Carolina's nice, North Carolina's nice.
Uh you can you know depends on the weather.
You if you like Vegas, you can move to Vegas, if you like, or Nevada, you can move to Arizona.
There's so many nicer places that don't, you know, where government doesn't abuse people.
You know, uh the beauty of California is you know, California uh Florida matches it.
I happen to love states that have a lot of water and you know, ocean and uh, you know, I love that about Florida.
I love that about California.
I mean, the Pacific Coast Highway is one of the most beautiful highways to drive in in the entire country.
But they make it impossible for people to really raise their families in a way that they feel comfortable, they want to indoctrinate your kids, their school system sucks, their their level of taxation sucks, their bureaucracy is out of control.
They want to c they want to control every aspect of your life.
And you know, I just believe in in living in a more free state.
Anyway, that's my challenge, Professor.
Congratulations, God bless you.
And uh I don't know, I'll think about going to California.
I'll think about it.
Uh, but I um I'll probably won't stay very long.
Just in and out.
Because if Gavin finds out I'm there, I'll probably be arrested.
Uh back to our busy phones, uh Ken North Carolina.
What's up, Ken?
How are you, sir?
Thank you for uh taking my call.
Thank you.
I've been to your with Franklin Graham to visit with you a few times, and uh I was his chief of staff for uh several years, and uh also Nancy Reagan's director of projects back in the day.
Uh so I've got some some history, and I'm also a Jewish believer in Jesus.
So I have a different perspective on a lot of things.
And uh I was I was on the phone this God bless you.
Right.
Uh friend from Israel, and he is uh uh journalist there, but uh he was down in the Gaza with some of the soldiers.
And I said I asked him what what is their take on things?
What do they want?
And then first of all, the reason that uh we could take out Iran, uh Israel could take out Iran so easily, uh was because it was a plan for over ten years, as we've heard for the Hamas, they weren't prepared at all for the Hamas uh October 7th issue.
Obviously, that's why it was a surprise.
But trying to locate chief leaders and uh find them and take them out has been very difficult.
And the and the ceasefire isn't affecting Hamas.
They're still still killing people, as we know.
And one of the reasons they they said it is because the uh technology is not getting to them.
They've got drones now that can pick up blood samples and and things like that, but it hasn't been developed enough to use it and take up those key leaders.
But most of the the biggest uh question I asked was how do they feel about the taking out the whole regime?
And I'll guarantee you the people in Israel uh, I think the America has uh the ha the president had a whole different agenda here.
Iran can't have nukes, and you you have to listen to what the president's agenda is.
And he took out the nuclear weapons.
You know, and the president has been very, very clear he's not gonna get American troops involved in forever wars.
I agree with the president on that.
Now, with that said, Israel is our closest ally, and I think deserves our support in their war against radical uh Islamic terrorism.
I think it's in our best interest, the world's best Interest to not let this cancer grow.
I think it's critical.
And I think it's very, very important that the president, you know, took this stand.
And uh just like when he took out Salomani and Baghdadi, and when he took out the ISIS Caliphate and dropped the mother of all bombs on Afghanistan.
He didn't get us into forever war, and he accomplished um the mission of making the world more safe and secure.
And I think that, you know, the Trump doctrine is is the Hannity doctrine, peace through strength.
And I think in this case, there's got to be a heavy dose of trust but verify with the Iranians because I don't trust them.
Anyway, my friend, I appreciate your good call, 800-941-Shawn, if you want to be a part of the program.
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