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June 4, 2025 - Sean Hannity Show
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Trump's Triumph - June 3rd, Hour 2
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Sean, if you want to be a part of the program in a moment, we'll be joined by our friend and former Speaker of the House, the last speaker, by the way, to balance the budget, but four or five consecutive years, Newt Gingrich.
His brand new book is out today.
It's called Trump's Triumph, America's Greatest Comeback.
You can get it on Amazon.com, Hannity.com now in bookstores all across the country.
Also, the speaker will be in Ridgewood, New Jersey tonight at Bookends.
He has a book signing at 6 o'clock tonight.
If you're in New Joise, you might want to go and see this.
Not only did we see the greatest comeback in history, but then we see every big thing the president is trying to do.
Anywhere between, what, 12, 14 to 20 million illegal immigrants, unvetted, including known terrorists and murderers and rapists and cartel members and gang members.
He's getting rid of them.
Then you see the president gets $10 trillion in commitments from countries and companies to build manufacturing centers back here in America, including auto factories, pharmaceuticals.
So we won't have that national security, health risk, semiconductor chips.
He's going after rare earth metals, so we'll be independent in that category as well.
And then you see the president restoring law and order and safety and security.
Then you see the president building out the next generation of weaponry.
Then you see the president trying to bring peace to Europe and peace in the Middle East.
Not something anybody, probably in their right mind except Donald Trump, would try to do for the betterment of the world.
And he gets nothing but nonstop criticism for it.
Anyway, former Speaker of the House, Newt Gingrich, is with us.
What I love about the book, and I finally finished it, cover to cover.
Congratulations, number one.
It is, it really is, it comes from my friend, the professor, the historian, because what we're living through right now is revolutionary.
And if the economy turns around, and we saw the Atlanta Fed yesterday predict 4.6% GDP growth for the second quarter, which is if we get anywhere near that number, if we get to 3%, it is going to be a massive reversal in terms of economic fortunes in this country, in spite of doom and gloom predictions.
And if Donald Trump, he's already secured the border, he's now deporting illegal immigrants, if he could somehow thread the needle and get peace in Europe and peace in the Middle East, and the economy is going to run at a level we've not seen our entire adult lives with $10 trillion in committed investment.
This is the most historic revolutionary president in our lifetime.
And you wrote this book from that perspective as I was reading it.
That's how I felt it was written.
Well, you know, I started writing this in October because I was convinced Trump was going to win.
And I wanted to take a historian's view and put it in a context beyond the daily news.
And I wanted it to be as much forward-looking as backward-looking.
So it's Trump's triumph, but it's the American people's greatest comeback.
And it's the combination of the two, that the MAGA movement made Trump, Trump made the MAGA movement.
And together, I think it's both fascinating to look at last year, but it's even more fascinating to look at the future.
Remember, this is the only candidate in history to defeat an incumbent president, pivot, and defeat an incumbent vice president all in the same year.
And so it's just utterly remarkable.
You know, I never really have a lot of hope for midterm elections just based on history.
If I'm not mistaken, how many years had it been, 40 years since Republicans had a majority in the House when you were elected in 94?
And then you held that majority two years later, and that does not happen very often, does it?
Well, when we held it, it was the first time since 1928.
And what's really interesting, Sean, and of course you were there, you were part of all this, but think about this.
From 1928 to 1994, the Democrats hold the House for 64 years, the House Republicans for four, so 64 to four.
Once we broke through and we survived in 2096 for the first time in 68 years, we have held the House since for 22 years and the Democrats for only eight.
So in terms of a genuine shift in the balance of power in Washington, it's one of the more remarkable elections.
And frankly, if President Trump can win next year, then I think we have a chance to see the biggest change, bigger change maybe than Franklin Delano Roosevelt, which would put Trump in a very unique league of effective change-oriented presidents.
There's only been two times in the last 100 years where Republicans have held control of the White House and the House and the Senate.
And I would like to see them maintain that for the four years that Donald Trump is president.
Otherwise, we're going to be facing endless impeachments and nonstop attacks.
You know, people ask me, well, why do you keep saying that you like Jasmine Crockett and AOC and Grandpa Bernie and Uncle Timmy Walls and the squad?
I like because they represent the Democratic Party.
Now, over at Fake News CNN, they have this guy that analyzes numbers.
His name is Harry Enton.
I have no idea who the guy is.
Anyway, but he did say something, and it was on real clear politics.
Democrats are no longer the party of the middle class, and Trump and Republicans have taken that mantle away.
I've been saying this now for a long time, and that is really the force of Donald Trump.
The $10 trillion to bring manufacturing back to America that Barack Obama said could never happen and will never happen.
But now we have every auto manufacturer, both foreign and domestic, building plants and committing to building plants in America.
We have semiconductor companies that are going to be building our chips here in America.
That's good for national security.
We're going to build our pharmaceuticals in-house because of Donald Trump's threat of tariffs.
$10 trillion in investment in four years is a massive amount of money that will help men and women, the hardworking men and women, the working class, the backbone of our country, to have better lives.
And then you add to that no tax on tips, no tax on Social Security, no tax on overtime.
You know, how could they ever get back that mantle when they're still championing the rights for men to play women's sports and championing the rights of illegals, including gang members, over the safety of Americans?
And they continue to say it's a constitutional crisis to weed out hundreds of billions of dollars in waste, fraud, and abuse that never should have been spent.
I mean, that's the party this has now become.
Look, they have the moral authority of the movie Jerry Maguire, where the football player keeps saying to the agent, show me.
Show me the money.
Think about it.
I mean, these guys, they're all, you know, all of them lie.
All of them are hypocritical.
And all of them want the money.
I mean, once you get that in your head, Democrats make perfect sense.
And of course, I'm talking to you today from New York City, where the Democratic primary is between a crook and a communist.
I mean, it's the most amazing thing I've ever seen.
But it all comes down to show me the money.
And they couldn't care less about what it does to America, as long as their allies get the money.
Well, the question is, and there seems to be now, and I assume that there'll be a deal at some point.
But if you look at the flashpoints in the Senate reconciliation debate, Medicare, immigration, food stamps, you know, I can go through all of its snap benefits and resistance.
And every senator has their own individual agenda, clean energy tax credits, and they're grappling with competing claims to various bands on radio waves, critical for the military and commercial applications, immigration, for example.
I imagine they'll get to a point where they're going to make it work.
Democrats plan to use the bird rule to challenge every reconciliation point that they can, if it doesn't have to do with spending.
Do you foresee this being stalled because they can't get along in the Senate and we have a slim majority?
And then do you see it stalled in conference?
Well, I mean, first of all, the House majority was even thinner.
I mean, Senator Thumb, who's doing, I think, a very good job as majority leader, can afford to lose three people and have the vice president cast the ballot and win.
So start with that.
Second, I do think a lot more attention ought to be paid to the amount of power that the parliamentarian has because it's kind of crazy that 100 senators, 435 House members and the President of the United States are all dependent on one person's interpretation of the Byrd Rule.
Third, I think when you get down to it, if you'll notice the president's schedule the last couple days, he's out of sight.
He's talking to senators.
The Senate's a totally different institution than the House, and he knows he just has to listen and talk, listen and talk, and eventually they'll figure out a way to get there.
I am convinced that Thune and Johnson will, in fact, probably be the Senate before the 4th of July, the House before the 1st of August.
And frankly, if I were the president, I'd say, you guys cannot go home until this is done.
I'll call you back into an emergency special session.
And they'll get it done.
I mean, it is the way the constitutional system works.
It is painful, slow, difficult, and partly because 435 House members and 100 senators all get to have a say.
And that's really a lot of work.
It's a lot of work.
I'm hoping the timeline is better, and I'll tell you why.
Because I believe that peace and prosperity, meaning the economy, drive elections.
And it is imperative that this bill get passed as soon as possible because it's going to impact the economy.
And I want the economy, you know, firing on all cylinders by November of 26.
Look, I agree totally.
I mean, look, the American people deserve to have this bill passed because it's going to be money in their pockets.
It's going to be jobs they can go do.
It's going to make the economy dramatically better.
And in the process, it's going to cut out a bunch of crooks, a bunch of money going to illegal immigrants.
And it's going to change the idea that you can be able-bodied and just refuse to work and will give you money anyway.
Let me ask you this, because you did all this work, and you were very confident going into the election.
I was only confident because of early voting numbers.
And as each day passed, and I'd read the numbers in every swing state, I knew that Kamala had a massive math problem.
What is it about Donald Trump that makes him so unique?
He's such a unique historical figure.
And that's the essence of your book, Trump's Triumph and America's Greatest Comeback.
What was it?
Well, you'll think this is funny as a New Yorker.
I think the heart of Trump is Queens.
I think it's coming out of basically a solid, middle-class, working-oriented area, going to Manhattan, being repudiated by all the fancy elites, and deciding that, by God, he was going to make it.
And that shaped him into a very tough guy who was prepared to stand outside the crowd, do what he thought was right, and frankly not care about their opinion.
And I think without that experience, you cannot explain Donald Trump.
Again, I appreciate the shout-out in the book also.
Yeah.
Well, look, there are very few people who know Trump as well as you do or who have the ability to chat with him at the level you do.
So I'm just reporting factually on the remarkable relationship.
But, I mean, I just think Trump somehow, and you see this, by the way, very early, even in the 1980s, he's buying full-page ads to talk about policy.
He's going on Oprah.
He has a very strong feeling about what we should do with murderers and criminals.
He has a strong feeling about tariffs and about America getting ripped off.
And this is in the 1980s.
And so the Trump we saw then is now the Trump who's in the White House with all the intervening years of growth and experience and sophistication.
But there sure are a lot of parallel patterns.
It's amazing and remarkable when you go back and see those old tapes, how consistent he has been throughout the years.
And I would argue not having two consecutive terms has actually worked out in his favor, but we can do that for another day.
I want to remind people: in about an hour and a half from right now, Newt Kingrich will be in Ridgewood, New Jersey at Bookend, signing copies of his brand new book, Out Today in Bookstores Around the Country, Trump's Triumph: America's Greatest Comeback.
Go see Newt in New Jersey if you're there.
And he'll tell you on his website, Newt360, about other book signings he's going to be doing.
But you can get it in bookstores all around the country.
It's called Trump's Triumph, America's Greatest Comeback.
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Well, I see Tim Walz.
I mean, Uncle Timmy is now being enlightened by his teenage son.
We saw him at the Democratic Convention.
We saw him bursting out in tears.
But he's enlightening him as to why young men gravitate towards Donald Trump.
Listen.
Next Tuesday, I'm going to have a high school graduate with my son Gus.
And he's pretty in tune to this.
But when he said this, he said, Dad, a lot of these young guys, especially, they're not voting on the policy issues.
And he wasn't dissing them.
He said they may know the policy issues, but most of them don't.
They're doing it because there's a sense of excitement, a sense of thrill in this.
It's entertainment or whatever.
And I've always said this as a teacher.
If you don't give a kid a place to belong, they'll go find one.
So, why you want them to be involved in sports and music and things in school?
Because they will go find a group of folks.
And I think Donald Trump understands belonging, understands groups.
I mean, you look at it.
He gives them a uniform, the red hat.
He gives them some chance, some talking points, whatever.
It's not all that different than when we build sports teams in high school.
You belong, you're part of this.
It's not so much the policies.
I think it's incredibly dangerous, but I don't think we went out to get them.
We didn't out to make them feel a part of this.
I thought he was brought in to bring in the bro vote.
I mean, those are his own words.
He's so out of touch.
And this is why I keep saying, you know, Uncle Timmy needs to keep talking.
Grandpa Bernie needs to keep talking.
Jasmine Crockett needs to think that she's loved by conservatives.
AOC needs to keep talking.
The squad needs to keep talking because they're the leaders of this radicalized party, and they're so out of touch.
Oh, it has nothing to do with our policies.
It's about belonging, not about belonging in red hats.
It's about wide open borders and the average American not liking the fact that known terrorists, rapists, murderers, cartel members, gang members are in our country, unvetted, and to the tune of anywhere between 12 and 20 million of them.
It may have something to do with the idiocy of him advocating for, let's see, college tuition, taxpayer-funded college tuition for illegals or gender-affirming care for minors or his running mates supporting gender-affirming treatment,
meaning treatment for illegal immigrants and for convicts and the horrible economy they left and the high energy and the fact that they want to take away stoves and straws and air conditioners and everything in between.
In New York now, there's a big movement to get rid of nonstick pans that you get at your local Target.
It's so ridiculous.
By the way, I like nonstick pans.
Linda, do you use non-stick pans?
No, you probably don't.
I don't.
You don't, but I do.
And do you mind if I have the choice and the freedom to get whatever pan I want?
Not at all.
Thank you.
Appreciate it.
And they're so out of touch.
They don't understand.
They don't want to understand.
They don't want to recognize their failures.
They don't want to understand that they are no longer the party of working men and women.
This guy is insufferable, but I'm glad he's out there.
And you say, well, why, Hannity?
Why are you glad he's out there?
Because he represents what this party has become.
And the more he talks, the more people realize he's nuts.
I mean, the guy on CNN, we played it last night, Harry Enton is his name, just went absolutely crazy over the Democrats and their horrendous polling and that they're no longer the party of the middle class.
And you expect that Democrats will have this massive lead on the economy.
It ain't so.
It ain't so.
The party that is closest to your economic views, in November of 2023, it was the Republicans by 11 points.
Now it's still within that range, still within that margin of earth, plus eight-point advantage for the Republican Party.
How is that possible, Democrats?
How is that possible?
If it was just one CNN poll, that would be one thing.
But take a look at Reuters Ipsos.
What do we see here?
Party with a better economic plan.
Well, in May of 2024, just before Donald Trump was re-elected president, Republicans had a nine-point advantage.
Look at where we are now in May of 2025.
The advantage actually went up by three points.
Now Republicans have a 12-point advantage.
And now in our latest CNN poll among registered voters, which is the party of the middle class, it is tied.
This, I think, speaks to Democratic ills more than anything else.
They have traditionally been the party of the middle class.
No more.
Donald Trump and the Republican Party have taken that mantle away, and now a key advantage for Democrats historically has gone adios amigos, and now there is no party that is the party of the middle class.
Republicans have completely closed the gap.
And when you have $10 trillion a new investment that Donald Trump has committed to this country to produce manufacturing in automobiles and pharmaceuticals and silicon chips, it's no wonder that the Atlanta Fed, which has always had a very good track record, their latest GDP estimate for growth over the first two months of the second quarter is now a booming 4.6%.
So much for that Trump recession that the media was obsessing about.
Never mind inflation when we got the latest numbers in last week is at 2.1%.
Well, the Fed's target is 2%.
So I would expect that interest rates should be coming down anytime, coming down very soon.
And consumer confidence is up to a four-year high.
You know, so much for the so-called experts because the experts, as per usual, have been proven wrong.
Never mind the lower price of gas and the president moving to reverse Biden's restrictions on oil and gas and Ford Motor Company reporting a 16% sales increase for May.
They lost whatever how many billions of dollars, $4.5 billion, trying to build out an EV plant when they didn't want to ever build electric vehicles.
That's not what their business is.
Dollar General raised their yearly sales forecast.
Why?
Consumers are shaking off all the hysteria in the media over tariffs and everything in between.
And job opening showed an unexpected increase in April as well.
Bureau of Labor statistics showed that jobs, available jobs totaled $7.4 million.
That's an increase of $200,000 from March and higher than $7.1 million.
The forecast that economists surveyed by fact sheet and hiring increased for the month as well by $169,000 of $5.6 million.
Layoffs fell by $196,000.
I mean, so, you know, so much for all these, you know, doom and gloom gloomers out there.
They don't know what the hell they're talking about.
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Tiffany in Texas.
God bless Texas.
Tiffany, how are you?
I'm great.
How are you today?
I'm good.
Thank you.
Good.
Well, there's two things.
One, you're talking about the Democratic Party.
Well, it's the party of the mentally ill now, is what I'm thinking.
But I think Newt says it best.
This the party are crazy.
Yes, the crazy train party.
Absolutely nuts.
Yes, the auto pin thing.
I've been in security for quite a few years, and, you know, getting in and out of different places, and I know the White House has got to be the exact same.
You've got to have a card pass, a card key to get access.
That's all in a system that's logged who Jane Doe came in at 1253.
And is there cameras where the pin was?
So if they really, really think about it and think outside the box, they go to the card keys and they watch the cameras in the hallway going to where the auto pen was.
They probably could figure out who the heck was putting in all of these pardons and all of these other little frivolous rules and regs that they wanted to write in.
It's just my thought and process of finding out who these people were that were pushing the button for the auto pen besides, you know, look, the Trump DOJ is now investigating Biden's auto pen pardons, and I think they should look at all the auto pen usage.
Remember, the last few months of the administration, they used that autopen, you know, more than they used at the entire presidency leading up to that point.
And that includes all the pardons.
Yeah, and his cognitive ability had declined extremely.
So there's a lot of.
We had a guy on last night, and I said, when did you recognize Joe's cognitive decline?
He said he didn't.
And I'm like, okay, you're either blind, blinded, and this is charitable by your political bias, or you're just flat out lying to me.
I don't believe you.
Right.
And I think you're full of crap.
I actually said that to him on TV.
Was that wrong?
No, that's right.
I mean, again, crazy terrain.
Exactly.
Exactly.
Anyway, Tiffany, appreciate it.
Jeff in Oregon, next Sean Hannity Show.
Hey, Sean.
How are you?
I'm good.
How are you?
I'm good.
I've been a listener and watcher since the Combs days.
I was just listening to the lady talk about Autopen, and also I've been kind of listening with the other ear of Carolyn Levitt.
And she said it's clearly illegal.
My question is: in what way?
Is it a forgery?
Is it treason?
Is it even a temporary coup?
Nobody's talking about that.
At least I haven't heard Doshowitz or Jarrett talk about it on your show.
A forgery just seems too mild.
And can you have a temporary coup?
Yeah, you're usurping the constitutional authority and powers of a president, and you're not a duly elected president.
Yeah, that would, I would categorize, I'd categorize it any way you want.
Certainly illegal, certainly unconstitutional, and certainly full of lies and deception, and certainly a national security disaster.
Look, I'm calling this the biggest White House presidential scandal in history because it is.
He was not competent to be president.
They all knew it.
They all hit it.
They all lied about it.
And now we've got to investigate it.
My guess is most will lie.
The question is: will there be one honest person that tells the truth?
That's what we're looking for.
Yeah, these definitions kind of talk about the use of force when they're talking about treason or coups.
And so forgery, like I said, is just too mild.
I was just wondering what the penalty might be.
And I wonder if anybody's going to tell the truth.
I would think the majority will not.
That's my guess.
And I think their feeling probably will be if we all stick together.
Remember, they did this, and they did it because they thought that stopping Donald Trump at any cost would be the best policy.
Remember the one guy quoted in that fake Jake Tabber book as actually suggesting, well, we'll get him re-elected and then we'll show proof of life occasionally and then put him back in his bedroom and let him sleep it off.
I mean, pretty much that's what he was saying.
And that to me says everything, that they themselves were going to anoint themselves president of the United States.
By definition, that's a coup.
I appreciate the call, my friend.
Thank you.
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Let us say hi to Earl in Kentucky.
Earl, how are you?
Glad you called.
Good afternoon.
I've been involved in politics for 40 years.
I mean, I grew up under Ronald Reagan as my governor, but let me just talk about the lack of work being done in the Senate.
On the regular schedule of the Senate, the Senate comes in session at three o'clock on Monday, and they usually leave on Wednesday.
They don't work a full week, people.
That's why nothing's getting done.
Yeah, but actually, I don't really have a problem with that.
You don't have a problem with government work not working?
Well, you know, we can't get legislation passed.
It's all about legislation.
Executive orders don't work, people.
It's a band-aid on the cancer of American government.
We need legislation passed.
We need these politicians working six days a week until we get our economy back and American back on track.
But working two days a week is not cutting the mustard here.
Listen, I prefer that they stay away.
They do less damage.
Now, with that said, there are a lot of flashpoints with this one big, beautiful bill that we've got to watch.
It's going to be changes as it relates to Medicaid.
And there's a lot of concern from senators that Medicaid provisions in the House pass budget reconciliation bill, you know, would harm rural health facilities.
And you need the votes of Josh Hawley, Susan Collins, Lisa Murkowski to make all of this come true.
You know, snap benefits, clean energy tax credits.
Everyone's got their own agenda.
At the end of the day, they're going to have to come together, though, as a team.
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