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Gingrich on Trump's Visit - May 13th, Hour 2
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We are in Saudi Arabia, undisclosed location.
As for security, no, I'm kidding.
Anyway, thank you for being with us.
It's been an amazing trip, as I went over in the last hour.
Then, of course, we have the big issue, the last American-released hostage that has been released from Israel, and this trip, which I think is historic to Saudi Arabia, Qatar, tomorrow, and the UAE and Abu Dhabi.
And we will be on every leg of that trip.
Mr. Speaker, we talk a lot about transformational and consequential.
Every one of these issues is transformational and consequential.
And I forgot to mention that we expect Putin and Zelensky to be meeting on Thursday of this week.
Well, and meanwhile, back at home, the House is steadily moving forward on that gigantic budget bill that really is at the heart of Trump's economic plan.
So you have a lot of different moving parts.
I think the most fascinating thing I'm going to write about this for the New York Sun later on this week is this is a trip by a president which is focused, frankly, a lot more on economics than on geopolitics.
I mean, I think his goal in part is going to be to get huge investments in the United States, make some very big sales for American companies, and significantly improve the American economy.
That is an enormous shift from the way presidents from 1939 on went around the world.
Historically, we were so wealthy and so big, they go around the world giving away things and focusing virtually everything on geopolitics and nothing on economics.
This is going to be the exact opposite.
And of course, he today, I thought very boldly, I was a little surprised they did it, called on Saudi Arabia to recognize Israel.
Now, you know, he has a very good relationship with the royal family.
And they're, I think, thrilled that for the second time visiting Saudi Arabia is the beginning of his foreign travels, as it was in 2017.
But it's also, in terms of publicly just coming right out, I think probably was a little bit startling to them that he was so strong and so clear that he wants them to recognize Israel, which I think is a big step in the right direction.
The untold story of his first term, or one of the untold stories of his first term, was, and it's a little secret, and a lot of these countries are too vulnerable to the military might that is the Iranians, so they don't take them on directly.
And I'm not putting aside, I'm not casting aside past sins, past associations, any of that.
And I think that does need to be discussed and pointed out.
But there was an achievement in his first term where the United States, Israel, Jordanians, Egyptians, Emirates, the Saudis all united together and were sharing intelligence, and they had one goal.
It was against Iranian hegemony in the region.
And now there is an urgency to ensure that, in fact, the Iranians don't get a nuclear weapon.
Now, my interview tonight, it's going to be part one.
I asked the president directly about this question, or Laired, either tonight or tomorrow.
And I will tell you that the president is steadfast.
They're not getting a weapon, Mr. Speaker.
And I've known him 30 years.
If he says it, I believe him.
Yeah, I believe him.
I worry, frankly, that the traditional bureaucrats and the traditional diplomats will try to find some weasel word that allows them to sort of keep the potential and not push them to the wall.
But I think Trump's intent is clear, that we want to eliminate any possibility of the Iranian dictatorship being able to acquire a nuclear weapon, period.
And I think if he's tough enough, I think that, in fact, they'll succeed in doing that.
Well, either they stop enrichment with anywhere, anyplace, anytime inspections, and they break down the nuclear facilities, or probably is not a deal that would ever work.
Right.
And remember, we just discovered a huge secret nuclear facility that none of us knew existed.
So, I mean, trying to police the Iranian dictatorship is a big challenge.
It can be done, but we're asking them to be open to foreigners on a scale they never dream of.
So count me as thinking that in the end we may have to use force just because in the end it may be too big a stretch for them inside their own culture to give in.
I'm not 100% there, but I have a hunch that it's going to be more difficult.
And I think Trump's finding that out, frankly, in Gaza, and he's finding it out in Ukraine.
I mean, it's dramatically easier for an American president to reshape the United States than it is for them to reshape historical situations where you have opponents who are quite prepared to die for what they believe in.
Back to your point about this being a largely economic trip.
So we land in Saudi Arabia and I'm reporting from Air Force One, and we have a lot of great tape that we're going to run during the week on Hannity at 9 o'clock, including part one of my interview with the president tonight, but we have other guests as well.
And anyway, we'd land and within an hour, I'm in a room with the top, every big business that every American whose name they'd recognize.
I didn't realize it at the time because I'm at a table with people, and it was a mix of people from Saudi Arabia, business people, foreign ministers, and cabinet officials.
I was sitting next to the longest-running cabinet official in Saudi Arabia, and they're all there, and the president's cabinet is there, and the crown prince's cabinet is there.
It's a who's who of business.
I mean, when I read the entire list, I was stunned about how many people every big company in America that you can think of probably was here.
That's how big it was.
What is your reaction to that?
Well, I do the piece Friday.
And then why would they ever invite me to such a dinner, like the lunch like that?
I mean, that's the mystery of the century.
No, no, that's a simple commentary on how much he regards you as a personal friend of, what, 30 years' experience?
I mean, you know, you're in a unique position of anybody in the news world in terms of how close you are to him and how candid and deep the friendship is.
But I think what you're seeing, and I wrote about this a little bit on Friday, when I wrote a piece called the Coming Trump Economic Boom, Donald Trump is a businessman who is now president, but he has all the instincts of a very successful entrepreneur.
He is able to call and work with entrepreneurs.
He knows their language.
He knows what they're dealing with.
And he's offering everybody a chance in his first year of his second presidency to be on the ground floor and potentially make a huge amount of money and invest an enormous amount in America.
And if we can get this budget through in the next couple of weeks, I think you're going to see just an enormous impetus because between the tariff negotiations, the dramatically lower taxes, the very dramatic deregulation, America is going to become the best place in the world to invest in.
And frankly, one of the groups that has a lot of money to invest are the Saudis.
So there's talk that they're going to commit to a trillion dollars invested in the U.S. over the next decade.
Now, that's real money.
Now, I want to go back to a point I was making earlier, which is that a lot of these countries, I think, have had to thread this needle of radicalism within their ranks, and yet their desire to pivot to a modernization that is rooted in economic growth, wealth, prosperity for all people.
You're not going to change people's religion.
You're not going to change their culture.
Those people that think those things, I think, are just, it's never going to happen.
And, you know, like this whole issue, for example, is Qatar gives this plane to President Trump.
And I looked at the deal on the surface, and then I started to do some research.
And what did I find out?
The U.S. right now has over $26 billion in active government-to-government defense sales with Qatar that's happening right now.
For context, the foreign military sales program allows the U.S. government to sell military equipment, training services to foreign government and organizations.
Currently, about 190 countries, international organizations participate.
But the recent sales to Qatar, and by the way, the same thing goes for the Saudis as well, include their most sophisticated military technology.
Let me put it another way, Mr. Speaker, maybe a little bit more bluntly.
This plane was not given, and I know people have made comparisons to the Bidens.
This was not to enrich Donald Trump.
If not for the United States, they would not have security in this region.
The Saudis wouldn't have it.
Qatar wouldn't have it.
The UAE wouldn't have it.
And in many ways, I feel like that's part of the relationship because we are saving their country.
We're helping to save their country against radicals that also want to destroy them too.
Well, look, I think that there's no question that Qatar wants to gain some affection with this transaction.
Also no question that it is a public transaction.
It saves the United States over $400 million because Boeing has failed to build the new Air Force ones on a timely basis, which is a disaster.
And by the way, Boeing is going to be one of the big winners on this trip because I think several of the countries are going to place huge orders for Boeing airliners.
So, I mean, Trump is very concerned about the survival of Boeing despite what has been a decade of incompetent management.
And he has great hope that their new CEO, who's an engineer, is going to turn things around.
But this is not what the founding fathers worried about.
This is not like the French president who was privately getting diamonds from a country in Africa for his own pocketbook.
This is a public activity involving a public good.
And I'm not particularly offended if we can get a $400 million plane at no cost given our budget.
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You know, former Speaker of the House, Snoop Gingrich, is with us broadcasting today from Riyadh.
We're in Saudi Arabia.
Well, let me give you more context, because, again, you know, rather than rush to judgment like all of my colleagues in the state-run legacy media mob, Qatar has the largest U.S. military base in the Middle East.
And...
And here's a number that you probably have not heard before, and you know pretty much everything, but it was buried deep in the weeds, and I found it.
And since 2003, Qatar has invested over $8 billion in our military base to support key U.S. Central Command operations.
I didn't hear anybody complaining about that money being spent.
No, and actually, I had dinner with General Abrams at that base just before the campaign against Iraq in 2003.
You put your finger on it earlier.
These countries are terrified of the Iranians, and they don't want to have to rely on either the Russians or the Chinese because they don't regard either of them as desirable allies.
And so in the end, the one country in the world that has had a track record of taking on the Iranians and building a network of support is the United States.
And that's why the Middle East is so extraordinarily complicated.
Because it turns out that from their standpoint, Israel is no longer the central issue that it was 40 years ago.
Iran is now the central issue.
Well, I mean, and we did partner, correct me if I'm wrong, because you are a historian, and at heart you really are a professor.
And I've learned an awful lot from you over the many years of our friendship, and you are like an older brother to me.
But correct me if I'm wrong, we did partner with our arch enemy, the former Soviet Union, in World War II.
That might be a little detail that people forgot.
Yeah, Churchill, who is a staunch anti-communist, said, if the devil decided to fight Hitler, I'd find at least a few good words to say about hell.
Correct.
I don't think you could say it any better.
I know you have to run, Mr. Speaker.
I wish you were here with us in Saudi Arabia.
You are deeply missed.
In all the time I've known you, this may have been the coolest thing you've done.
This trip with you being right in the middle of it is astonishing.
I think you'll enjoy the president and my interview tonight.
I hope you won't miss it.
Appreciate your time, as always, sir.
Thank you.
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108 degrees today, Linda, hunt, and it's a drop.
Listen, you always say you're cold.
So now you're nice and warm, nice and toasty.
No, no, no, no.
This is a little too hot.
A little too hot.
That pale Irish skin.
Oh, it was covered.
I still had my Nike t-shirt on with a hoodie.
Oh, my God.
Oh, my gosh.
All right.
We are always pleased to welcome back to the program our friend Brigitte Gabriel, who herself is a survivor of terrorism.
She's with Act for America, founder and chairman.
I want to play part of Donald Trump in his speech earlier.
Now, we did mention that, and we're going to play it in the last hour of the program, the president's speech here, calling on the Saudis to recognize Israel.
Now, privately, this is all happening.
I mean, that's the untold story that we've been telling since the president's first term, is there is a genuine fright, fear that is palpable in terms of wanting to rid the region of the threat that is Iran and Iran militancy and Iran's caliphate,
live or die, and Iran wanting a weapon of mass destruction, which, you know, when people tell you they want to wipe you off the face of the earth, you might want to pay attention and listen to it.
We told you the president said that.
We'll play more of it later.
But he also said if there is a military intervention against Iran, that Israel will be the leader, but nobody's going to tell him what to do.
Here's what he said.
But with Iran, yeah, if it requires military, we're going to have military.
Israel will obviously be very much involved in that.
He'll be the leader of that.
But nobody leads us.
We do what we want to do.
Anyway, Brigitte, welcome back to the program.
Great to have you.
Thank you, my friend.
Delighted to be back with you, and what a day.
Well, tell me what your thoughts are.
I'm here in the middle of it.
You know, I said this to Newt Gingrich in the last half hour, is one of the things that happen, you know, and I'm very, very clear here.
I'm not putting aside sins in the past.
I'm not overlooking past positions, radicalisms, turning a blind eye towards radicalism.
But I am seeing the emergence of a desire to move away from radicalism, and I think that needs to be pointed out.
But it's going to have to be back with action.
But more importantly, you know, in the president's first term, it was the United States, Israel, Egypt, Jordan, Emirates, the Saudis, all aligned in ways that seemingly never got any press, sharing intelligence, for example, all against Iranian hegemony in the region.
And I think that's an untold story.
Nobody wants the Iranians to get a nuke.
Everybody is aligned.
Everybody knows the danger to the region and the entire world.
That and economic prosperity seem to be driving where the Middle East is potentially heading.
And I think that's why the president called on the Saudis to recognize and support Israel.
Exactly, Sean.
And especially since October 7th last year, we have seen destruction on display on world news.
No matter where you are in the world, the Arabs who are living outside of the Middle East were watching the destruction of Gaza, the destruction of cities in Lebanon, the destruction of Syria, the falling apart.
They are watching the destruction of Yemen under the Hatis.
And they are saying to themselves, especially when they look at the prosperity of Saudi Arabia, the prosperity of the United Arab Emirates, you know, Qatar, all the nations that invested in commercial building and industrial revolution, they are watching how they are prospering.
Their people are living in peace.
They are getting wealthier.
Their children are getting more education.
And on the other hand, you are seeing poverty, starvation, pain throughout the Arabic world for those who are supporting terrorism.
So at the end of the day, especially after the last year and a half, they are tired.
The Arabs who are in the Palestinian territories, as much as they hate Israel, we are now seeing a backlash against Hamas.
Hamas is suppressing that backlash.
This is why it is not being advertised on the world media.
We see glimps of it because Hamas puts the kabosh on it.
But the Palestinians are sick and tired of the leadership of Hamas.
People in Syria want to get back alive.
People in Lebanon are tired of Fuzballah manipulating their life.
After all, they destroyed the country.
So this is why today, President Trump's message and what we are seeing, what we witnessed today out of Riyadh, you know, when I was watching his speech today, I had multiple television screens at my office.
I was watching Al-Rabiya, Al Jazeera, Al-Hadas TV, multiple leading Arabic news agencies, as well as watching his speech.
And the reaction was amazing.
They have hope.
And I was watching the commentary afterward, when different pundits came on to comment on the president's speech, the different commentaries from different nations who came on different Arabic leading TV channels, whether Al-Arabiya or Al Jazeera or Al-Hadas, all said independently of each other, America is back.
You heard that statement repeated from different people who say America is back stronger than ever.
America now is going to bring peace to the Middle East.
There is a chance.
And they all have hope.
Today can be summarized with hope for the Middle East.
And you know, as well as I know, that President Trump is not going to throw Israel under the bus, but he's going to make sure that Israel is protected.
And the Sunni, strong Arab countries in the Middle East are going to sign a peace treaty or have something with Israel before he leaves office in his presidency.
Well, I mean, here's what I've been saying, and I think there's evidence that it's happening, is there has been a pivot in terms of many of these Middle Eastern countries that now want to do business and prosper.
But, however, that's still going to require them to purge the radicals that remain and not turn a blind eye, as has happened in the past, you and I both know it, to radicalism in their midst.
And as the president challenged Saudi Arabia today to make the pivot and we called on the Saudis to join the Abraham Accords, recognizing Israel.
And I think at the right point, I honestly think that the only reason they don't do it is because they believe that there'll be retribution and they don't have the military might to take on the Iranians.
Am I wrong?
No, you are correct.
They are afraid of the retribution.
Because look at it this way.
In America, we have elections every four years.
And every four years, we change leadership.
Look at the previous leadership under Biden.
I mean, what a difference between the welcome reception of President Trump and the chemistry between President Trump and bin Salman.
You can see it on display.
They are true friends.
There's a truly genuine respect and admiration.
With Biden, when Biden landed, when he visited Saudi Arabia, we didn't even know if they were going to shake hands.
I mean, it was such a cold, different type, a fabricated theater in front of the world relationship, but it meant nothing.
So the Saudis were always afraid because they cannot trust what comes next.
What President Trump is trying to do now, especially with the codification of these business relationships, cementing these business deals, especially the military deals that he has been doing with Saudi Arabia, this gives the Saudis the strength, the confidence to say, okay, we know America's got our back.
We know that under his presidency, because we've got another three years of President Trump, we know for the next three years, we can move the relationship and the assurances so far forward that we can be protected if we recognize Israel and do a peace treaty with Israel.
Even if it's on the governmental level, like Egypt, like Jordan, look, Isabel and Jordan have a peace treaty with Israel on a governmental level.
Not that the people of Jordan or the people in Egypt are in love with Israel, but at least at the government level, they know there's not going to be any war and governments are cooperating with each other in sharing intelligence, protecting each other.
As you well know, the Egyptians and the Saudis and United Arab Emirates and the Israelis are coordinating on intelligence, especially when it comes to protecting themselves and their interests from Iran, who wants to establish hegemony in the Middle East.
I think President Trump's today's visit to Saudi Arabia and his speech, and also the way he edified bin Salman, the crown prince, and how he kept praising him and lifting his stature in the eyes of the Arabic world and Arabic leaders.
You know, there's a difference between edifying somebody in front of their own people.
But when you edify them on the world stage, while people representative from around the world are sitting there in a speech carried worldwide, where the Arabic media, the Arabic, everybody was watching today's speech.
When he lifted up the crown prince to the point where you are my friend, I love you.
We're going to have a great relationship, business-wise, family-wise, for years to come.
You will always be my friend.
You did an amazing job building Saudi Arabia.
I'm impressed with what you have accomplished.
He praised him in every way.
And by lifting his stature, as if he's lifting anyway, I mean, he's already very well respected.
But by elevating him to the level of almost like Trump, the Trump of the Middle East, bin Salman, that gives bin Salman the strength to be able to make decisions and move forward without fearing retribution on the level that it would have been four years ago.
Well, I got to tell you something.
I think you've really analyzed this very well.
All right, quick break.
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You know, I brought this up with new too on this issue of Qatar and the plane.
You know, it's very funny that nobody ever mentions that if it wasn't for the United States, its military might, its willingness to share its military technology, we currently have $26 billion in active government to government defense sales with Qatar because they need our technology.
They need our military might.
They need our military advancement.
Nobody ever pointed out, for example, that Qatar is the home of the largest U.S. military base in the entire Middle East.
And since 2003, Qatar has invested over $8 billion in the base.
This has been an ongoing relationship.
In spite of, again, I go back to, you know, all these countries, they cannot turn a blind eye towards radicalism anymore.
Now, with that said, I agree with you.
I think the fear is palpable and real.
They don't want to show down with, they don't want to be fighting the Houdis.
They don't want to be fighting the Iranians.
They don't want to be fighting Hezbollah.
They don't want to be fighting Islamic Jihad.
They don't want to be fighting Hamas.
They don't have that kind of military might.
Maybe United they might.
So, you know, purging radicals, not turning a blind eye to radicalism is a big part and staying focused on economic success, which is where they seem to be headed.
And I'll give them the benefit of the doubt.
But joining the Abraham Accords would be a big step.
And I think the president was right to call them out.
You get the last word.
Yes.
And today we saw America's might and power on display, both political, military, and business power.
And the world respects that.
The Middle East respects that.
And that's exactly why they brought Syria to the fold.
This is exactly why they said we're going to lift the sanctions on Syria.
We are open to start the talks to Syria because Saudi Arabia wanted to immediately make sure they jump in and rebuild that relationship with the Saudis to block Iran completely out.
What President Trump is doing, look, President Trump is not dumb.
He understands the threat of radical Islam.
He understands the threat from Qatar.
By the way, Qatar needs us more than we need them.
We can move that base out of Qatar tomorrow and to anywhere else.
That base is supporting the Qataris, not us.
Thank you.
They need us more than we need them.
That's correct.
And we give them more than anybody ever pays any attention to.
You know why?
Because the legacy media mob is lazy, Brigitte.
They are lazy people that don't do any research.
But I have to run.
It's always a pleasure to talk to you.
All the best.
We think the world to you.
Thank you so much, Brasit Gabriel.
800-941, Sean.
All right.
So the president saying if we have to use force against Iran, we will.
And challenging the Saudis, as we broadcast from Riyadh, to join the Abraham Accords, recognize Israel, which I think was a big step.
And then the president going through what was nothing short of a series of several new agreements with the Saudis today, lifting sanctions, as Brigitte said, on Syria, announcing the billions of dollars that the hundreds of billions of dollars committed from the Saudi government to invest in the United States, including a defense partnership.
There's a lot happening here that will bear a lot of fruit.
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What I told people, I was making a podcast about Benghazi.
Nine times out of ten, they called me a masochist, rolled their eyes, or just asked, why?
Benghazi, the truth became a web of lies.
From Prologue Projects and Pushkin Industries, this is Fiasco, Benghazi.
What difference at this point does it make?
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