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White smoke.
I believe they didn't give us the final number.
It was either the fourth or fifth vote.
Um the first was it the fourth or fifth one?
I don't remember.
It was the fourth.
All right, on the fourth vote.
Uh, and it can happen anywhere between two and usually 15.
Uh, and anyway, we have uh a new Pope that has been uh selected the first American-born Pope.
Uh, graduated from Villanova.
He's been elected Pope.
And his name is Robert Prevost.
And um, he has taken on the name Pope Leo the Fourteenth.
Um very interesting background.
And uh, you know, half of the Christians in in the world are Catholic.
Did you know that, Linda?
I did not know that.
Yeah, half of them.
Uh, born in Illinois, 1955, Pope Leo the Fourteenth graduated from Villanova, bachelor's degree in math, 1977, a member of the Augustine.
I I don't I know I'm not saying that right, religious order, elected the top leader of the order twice in an article about Prevos uh selection as Cardinal, the former head of uh the province of Ta St. Thomas of Villanova referred to him as as our brother Bob.
Uh after Villanova, he studied a Catholic theological union in Chicago, was ordained a priest in 1982 before he was named a cardinal by Pope Francis in 2023.
Um he had held other previously high positions, though.
And post had been a leading candidate, except for his nationality, interestingly.
It had been a long, you know, whatever taboo against the U.S. Pope, given the geopolitical power already wielded by the U.S., I guess, in the secular sphere.
But anyway, Prevost, it's just interesting.
It's just the whole thing was interesting to watch unfold.
Um, I will tell you the years in the Catholic Church for me, 12 years of Catholic school were very, very good for me.
Gave me a good spiritual foundational.
There's so much that I like about the Catholic Church.
The thing is the few criticisms, I'm not going to bring them up on this day, but um he's a brilliant guy.
He has a doctorate in canon law that he got in Rome at uh the College of St. Thomas Aquinas.
Two decades he served in Peru and became a naturalized citizen.
And and prior to that he served, you know, uh i in in many different capacities and directly for for Pope Francis.
Um, you know, uh a lot of people are interested in in they were basically three groups.
It's kind of like everything, everything's political, right?
There were those that were deemed more conservative, uh, those that were deemed more in line with Pope Francis, who I thought was very liberal, too liberal for my liking to be very blunt.
And uh I won't go through the whole conclave.
If you want to know how conclave actually works, go watch the movie.
Uh people that actually have been through it say that process now it it has uh kind of bizarre ending to the story, but putting that side aside, the actual process is kind of akin to what really happens.
Um we do know he has said some things on some controversial issues.
Uh we know the New York Times reported in 2012 he indicated that pop culture created, quote, sympathy for beliefs and practices that are at odds with the gospel in a speech to bishops.
He referred to the homosexual lifestyle and alternative families comprised of same-sex partners and their adopted children.
Um immigration, he it's interesting as a bishop in Peru, had him work with a lot of immigrants, and for the New York Times, he was praised in the country for efforts to support Venezuelan immigrants, not talking about the U.S., but I believe he's talking about Peru in that interview.
They newsweek could not prefer uh confirm any details of his position on any of the conflicts, for example, going on around the world, Russia, Ukraine, uh Prevost uh uh, you know, longstanding ally of of the Pope uh Francis who's just passed.
Um, and we'll see.
I don't I don't think anybody will be as influential as Pope John Paul II.
Um, but you know, you have high hopes.
I think the world does need a spiritual reawakening uh in many, many ways.
And uh that's just my own personal opinion.
The president congratulated Pope Leo on his selection and said it's such an honor to realize that he is the first American Pope.
Um he said, what excitement, what a great honor for our country.
I look forward to meeting Pope Leo the Fourteenth.
It will be a very meaningful moment for the president.
I don't think a lot of people know the the president.
I can tell you firsthand is way more of a believer than people might think.
Well, Hannity, what about all the allegations?
I don't want to, I just please I can't take it anymore.
Your hatred is getting old and predictable.
Um but uh it was it was just this it's just a fascinating moment in history to watch, and I found myself in the middle of my my prep routine uh today, watching way too much of it.
Linda, did you find yourself doing the same thing?
I mean, the process is very interesting.
You know, some of the the morning of you know the previous Pope and putting him to rest.
I thought those were a little strange as a Catholic.
I was like, eh, that's a little weird.
Um, but watching the people gather today, and he actually spoke the Ave Maria, and I just I don't know.
There were certain things I really liked.
I'm not the biggest fan of him just yet.
We'll see.
Oh boy.
You mean there's a chance he might end up on the hate list and the backsliding.
We'll get to that later.
He might be a woke pope.
We shall see.
I don't think that there's no indication it'll be a woke vote.
No indication at all.
The other big news of the day, we will spend a lot of time on this.
The president...
And let me backtrack a second here.
Not to say that I told you so, but all the hand wringing and all the skittishness on Wall Street and all of the overreaction because Donald Trump did what Donald Trump was elected to do.
He he ran as a disruptor, an iconoclast, one that shatters illusions, and he challenges old ways of doing things.
You know, look at the Iron Dome.
Look at energy dominance, deporting illegal immigrants, uh building a wall, uh uh the Ukraine mineral deal.
Everything he does is out of the box.
And most everything he thinks about doing is is big, like peace in Europe, people peace in the Middle East.
I know there are people that just want him to fail just so they could say, well, you failed, you failed.
Well, at least he at least he's in there taking a shot and taking a swing.
He's up at bat.
Um, and everybody was freaking out.
Oh, there's not gonna be trade deals.
And I kept saying that just be patient.
This is fifty and or to sixty years of establishment institutionalized ways of doing things, and he said, No, it's it's it's no longer time for America to allow uh systemic ripping off of our country and being abused and being un uh treated unfairly by countries, friend and foe alike.
And that's when he announced his big trade deal with the United Kingdom today.
I can't think of a more appropriate day, by the way, for him to have uh done this.
Uh the what is it, the 80th anniversary, I believe, of the end of World War II.
Um, I think it was the perfect day to do it.
Um, interestingly, even China now is at the table.
Uh the deal with Great Britain that he announced today will open up British markets to plenty of American farm products, chemicals, machinery.
The president said beef, beef, ethanol, agricultural products are gonna flood into the UK.
The British also agreed to drop non-tariff trade barriers in return.
The UK will see new business partnerships with major American companies and receive relief on sector specific tariffs.
U.S. tariffs on British cars will be reduced uh, you know, from twenty-seven point five percent to ten percent for a quota of a hundred thousand British autos, and steel and aluminum tariffs will be slashed to zero.
You know, if the president didn't try, that wouldn't have happened.
I reported to you yesterday, you know, the widely watched Atlanta Fed, the Atlanta Fed has a lot of credibility.
And we reported yesterday two major developments.
The first was Goldman Sachs and the Atlanta Fed had both increased the GDP growth projections of the second quarter to over two percent.
And what was interesting about it is Goldman revised their growth projection from negative three tenths of one percent to two point four percent.
That is a massive adjustment.
The same day the Atlanta Fed increased their GDP projection from 1.1 to 2.2.
They doubled it.
This morning, the Atlanta Fed raised it even higher.
They they came out with a new GDP production uh projection for this quarter at 2.3%.
Now, this GDP new model estimate for real GDP growth in the second quarter.
Maybe they're maybe they're finally paying attention to what's been happening.
Eight trillion dollars that has been committed to manufacturing in the next four years is gonna be is is real.
You know, um we announced last night on Hannity.
The president is leaving Monday.
I will be on that trip reporting uh going on the trip.
We're gonna be broadcasting Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday next week from Saudi Arabia and Riyadh.
Uh we'll he will be in Doha, we'll be in Qatar.
Uh then we're going to the UAE and Abu Dhabi, and we'll be broadcasting from all three of those countries.
We're going to try and bring you a front row seat into what such a big trip is all about.
One of the biggest issues is, you know, look at the investment.
The UAE has committed one point five trillion dollars in in investment in manufacturing in the U.S. Uh Saudi Arabia, one trillion dollars.
Lindsey Graham will join us later, says, you know, this this is the future of of business and they want to be in business with the United States.
Now, one interesting other thing, you know, people I would expect after this United Kingdom announcement today that there are going to be other countries now.
I know for a fact, because I've talked to the people involved, that there are other countries that are we're very close to announcing trade deals with.
And, you know, when you couple that with the $8 trillion in committed investment between business and other countries, when you couple that with the specific industries that are investing, it's good for national security.
Like we we've got to build, we got to manufacture our pharmaceuticals in this country.
We've got to we've got to manufacture our chips in this country.
We can't be reliant on China.
They're not a reliable partner for these items.
Uh we have automotive manufacturing, as the president said, we want to make our cars here in America.
Now we can partner with other countries and and their car companies like Honda, Nissan, Hayende, you know, have all made deals to manufacture their cars and get their parts from America.
Great.
That's good for American workers.
And with people being deported, that's going to mean less competition for high-paying career jobs.
There's a story today, and we'll get to that, about how young kids in high school are being recruited to be trained in the trades, and their starting pay is 70 grand a year.
It makes you really want to rethink college at that point, because you know, that article I've referred to now a few times about the next generation of millionaires are going to be tradesmen.
Now, in the lead up to Scott Bessant, the Treasury Secretary's meeting in Geneva with China representatives.
Well, it's interesting.
It seems like an olive branch to me.
Uh Boeing announced that they received orders for more than a dozen wide-body jets from China's state-owned airline.
And that order is apparently a calculated gesture of goodwill from my interpretation ahead of these negotiations on Saturday.
And Boeing announced that China Airlines has become the newest 777 customer with an order of 10 passenger and four freight uh airplanes.
In addition to the firm order, the airline has options to purchase nine more 777s.
Last month the another Chinese airline delayed the delivery of a wide-body aircraft from Boeing.
The delay was suspected to be part of their non-tariff countermeasure.
Um I don't think it's an accident that it's happening just before this meeting is taking place in Geneva this weekend.
But of course, if you look at the mainstream, you know, state-run legacy media mob and just their classic maneuver, you know, the New York Times continues to push the Trump recession hoax while admitting the data shows that the economy's healthy.
They just contradict themselves and jobless claims fell more than expected.
And Doug Bergam is warning that the U.S. could suffer widespread Biden blackouts because of the over reliance on green energy.
What stupidity between that and what Sean Duffy inherited.
I can't believe what Sean Duffy's telling us.
They have an up that they haven't updated a thing.
I was wrong.
I see that the new uh post, um sorry, Pope uh Fravost apparently has been critical of President Trump and on the issue of immigration.
That's pretty disappointing.
Does he not know?
Do people not know how many Americans were murdered and raped and victims of violent crime because we don't have open borders?
He says there's nothing remotely Christian American or morally defensible about a policy that takes children away from their parents and warehouses them in cages.
I hope somebody might tell the new Pope that the kids in cages happened under Obama and then later under Biden, because I've got the video to prove it.
Uh and nobody's taking children away from their parents.
I mean, it sounds like he's been indoctrinated into the liberal way of thinking, although he in 2012 he had a different position on the issue of gay rights, but um well, it's it's fairly predictable.
This is the church is has been leaning more left wing, more left wing.
Once tried to criticize J.D. Vance uh as well for talking about Americans, you know, love God with all your heart, and your neighbor is yourself.
The neighbor's the person next door, not the person in another continent.
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Um, I did mention, well, it is a little bit disappointing.
Apparently, the new Pope, uh, which is, I guess now Pope Leo the 14th, uh, whose name who's they come out, they tell you that his his boy the name he was born with, in this case, Robert uh Prevost, and he take he's taken on the name Pope Leo the Fourteenth.
Uh, but apparently he has been critical of uh, even though it's the first American Pope of President Trump and his immigration policies.
And very similar to Pope Francis.
And I'm not really I I really have a hard time understanding it to be honest.
I don't want to get too critical on this day where so many Catholics are happy, and but I I wish Popes would focus on the mission of you know helping people find salvation in Jesus and understand the mystery of the Eucharist and the history of the church and and you know understanding that human beings are mind,
body, and soul, and focus on the soul part, not the politics part, but in one thing that he uh retweeted uh there is nothing remotely Christian American or morally defensible about a policy that takes children away from their parents and warehouses them in cages.
Now, you might recall we tried to get in the middle of COVID and early in Biden's term, they were allowing in all of these unvetted illegals, and they were putting all these kids in cages.
And we sent Sarah Carter and our cameras down to get images of it, and we were denied access.
And then Senator Ted Cruz was given access because he is a U.S. senator, and I asked him if he'd take videos and share them with us, and that's how we that that's how those images were made public.
Anyway, uh, and nobody is taking their children away from their parents.
And under Joe Biden, we're still missing 350,000 kids that came into this.
We don't know where they were.
We don't know where they are.
I mean, we don't know how many of them might have been, you know, sold into sex slavery for crying out loud and sex trafficking, because we know that goes on and on.
Anyway, also apparently the new Pope has previously shared an op-ed from the National C Catholic Reporter entitled JD Vance's Wrong.
Jesus doesn't ask us to rank our love for others following comments that the vice president made on Fox News in February.
I don't know if this was an interview with me or not.
I don't recall.
During the interview, Vance said there is a Christian concept that you love your family and your neighbor, and then you love your community, and then you love your fellow citizens, and then after that, prioritize the rest of the world.
He's basically saying love everybody.
Why is that controversial?
Anyway, the new Catholic Pope shared an op ed saying Vance was wrong.
Now both the president and uh the vice president have gone out very publicly and congratulated the new Pope on his his position.
What is the Bible is very clear.
Love God with all your heart, mind, body, and soul, and your neighbor is yourself.
Okay, your neighbor, the first your neighbor is the people you come into contact with every day.
Um, and that that would if you have to love your family, those are the people you your your number one responsibility is to take care of your family, but you gotta put God first in your life.
Okay, I agree with all of that.
But then the people that you're most likely to need to show the most love to are your family, your neighbors, your co-workers, your community, your country, and there's nothing wrong, and J. D. Vance says that.
Then you know, he goes on to say, and then you hel help people around the world.
The American people the most generous people on earth.
I'm not really sure, you know, how this ends up, to be honest.
It just sounds like more of the same.
Very in line with Pope Francis.
Um with all that said, I it was it was actually uh it's a special thing to watch knowing that half the world's Christians are are Catholic.
But I will tell you, overall, for me, the Catholic Church has served me well in my life in many, many ways, but more than I can even list.
Because I learned, I learned that I learned about God and the Bible, and it was instilled in me.
My parents made me go to church.
My parents were very devout.
And until I was able old enough to be able to, you know, get away.
I went to the I went to the early mass, Dad.
I went early, meanwhile he was sleeping.
Um, but then I then I went to Catholic schools for twelve years.
I studied theology.
I studied Latin.
I went to Mass every day.
I love the liturgy.
I love the Eucharist.
I've the last it is the reenactment of the Last Supper.
You know, Jesus said, you know, take this bread, eat it.
This is my body given up for you.
You know, gave thanks and praise, took the cup of wine.
This is the cup of my blood, the blood of the new and everlasting covenant.
It'll be shed for you and for all men for the forgiveness of sins.
Do this in memory of me, which is why the Mass does that.
And when you eat this bread and drink this cup, you proclaim the death of Jesus as your Lord, Lord and Savor, Savior, sent by God Himself, the Son of God to reconcile man and their sins, original sin.
We're all sinners, all have sinned and fallen short.
It's the whole concept of it.
Um, which is in itself great.
You know, but where as long as I'm on it, I might as well stay here.
But my disagreement is over, you know, eleven of the twelve apostles were married.
I learned that in theology in high school.
And so Jesus chose married men or men to be married that would be married, and they were his apostles, his chosen twelve.
Um the first what, 1100, 1200 years, I don't remember exactly, priests were allowed to marry in the church.
I think at that moment, and then the the motivation for changing that policy was probably rooted in the fact that the church it probably had to do with financial issues.
Everything I've read indicates that it does, and that the church didn't want to lose money, you know, with a divorce.
I guess prenups weren't as common back then, and pretty common now.
And but my point is at that point, I think you you took the potential, the pool of potential priests down to a very low negligible level.
And that means that the standards then would be reduced.
You're not having people compete, you know, and and having, you know, instead of hundreds of thousands of applicants, you know, now maybe you're down to a thousand.
And pretty much if you have a beating heart, that means you're the odds are pretty high that you'll make it.
And so in and and sadly it did attract some some of the wrong people.
And then the church, um unfortunately, rather than deal with the scandals head on, they at the local level, the parish level, the bishops, the cardinals, you know, and and all the way to Rome.
They they they never dealt with it appropriately, in my view.
That's that's that's where I feel the church went wrong.
Not on any of the other things.
You know, it's interesting.
Uh, I'll give you a little bit of background.
Linda, if I'm getting boring on this, tell me.
Um you're not answering, you're not giving me, you're not giving me affirmation of saying enough is enough, right?
I'm curious.
It's such a big part of my life.
You left us on a cliffhanger, and I I think it would be interesting for the audience to know that you went to seminary and did all the things.
Okay.
So the Catholic Church is founded on Jesus asking his apostles, who do you say that I am?
And he asked Peter.
Remember, it was his name was originally Simon, and he said, Well, I'm no, I'm gonna call you Peter.
That was a big part of you know, the biblical story, and and Peter was fishing when Jesus met him, and he didn't catch a single fish.
He said, Drop your net one more time, and he had more fish.
He was able to pay off his debt, and then he said, you know, follow me and I'll make you fishers of men.
But the whole premise of the Catholic Church is founded on on this scripture where you know, Peter, who do you know who do you say that I am?
And he said, You are the Christ, you are the son of the living God.
And Jesus' answer was, Well, flesh and blood didn't reveal this to you, Peter.
My father revealed that unto your heart.
And it's upon this foundation that I shall build my church and the gates of hell will not prevail against it.
Here's the interesting side of it.
When you when I studied theology, in Latin, Peter means Petrus, which means rock.
And upon they took it, Peter, the man, the rock would become the foundation of the church.
I took it very differently.
My interpretation is my own, so take it for what it's worth.
That Peter understood who Jesus was because flesh and blood didn't reveal who Jesus was to him, that God the Father did.
And it is upon the foundation of having a direct relationship with God and inner revelation that Jesus, Jesus' church will be built.
Inner discernment called a conscience, it's called a soul.
You know, how many of us in the course of our lives when you do something wrong, you know you're doing something wrong.
You know, you listen to the wrong voice.
Or, you know, as you get older and more mature and more mature spiritually and more disciplined in life, then you make the right decisions.
That's part of, you know, gradually graciously abandoning the things of youth.
So I I I think the spiritual component was way more important than Peter the Rock, the Pope, Petrus, and so on and so forth.
All right, was that worthwhile or not?
Of course it was.
I mean, I think you have a background, you know, you're basically a theologian.
You know, you have a very, very strong background, and you have obviously you know, you've been committed to the you know the word of the Lord for a very, very long time, and it's amazing.
I don't think a lot of the audience knows that.
I don't talk a lot about it.
I I don't proselytize in life.
I messed up too much of my life.
I was too much, I was so friggin' incorrigible in my youth that I I you know I I have no right to tell anybody what to do, to be very honest.
Nobody has anybody the right to tell anybody what to do.
You know, that's my whole thing is backsliding.
Well, I'm not backsliding.
I don't even like sliding.
I'm more of a standing still kind of gal.
I like the Peloton, you know, a nice breast hard.
But you have but you have a hate list.
I do, I hate a lot of people.
Love God, love your neighbor.
It's all you see.
He didn't say in anywhere in the Bible to hate anybody.
He said to forgive people 70 times seven.
Just never stop forgiving them.
Yeah, I'm not in math.
I'm a media, yeah.
I'm doing my best.
You just you you become a liberal when this topic comes up because you're not a liberal.
No, but you meant you rationalize and make excuses like liberals do.
No, it's the opposite.
I'm not making excuses, I'm not rationalizing honest.
Forgive us as we forgive.
That means if you want forgiveness, it's predicated on you forgiving those people on your stupid hate list that you cling to like manna from heaven.
But I do.
Like I don't I'm sorry.
I don't forgive pedophiles, I don't forgive murderers, I don't forgive rapists, I don't forgive um people who hurt animals in any way, shape, or form.
I do not forgive them.
I do not.
And I hope that you know, uh listen, uh, you you mentioned pedophiles.
I I don't think I can forgive them either.
I'm I'm I might be with you on that part.
You know, one of the most interesting things in Pope John Paul II's life that he did.
You remember he got shot?
Everyone forgets that.
Remember the guy that tried to kill him.
Okay.
He went to prison to pray with the guy.
Isn't that amazing?
That's insane.
Why is that insane?
He's the Pope.
He's practicing.
Well, yeah, but he's still human.
So if you were the Pope and you somebody tried to assassinate you or wanted to assassinate you, you wouldn't go visit them in prison as Jesus instructed us to do when I was hungry, you've you gave me food.
When I needed clothes, you gave me clothes.
When I was in prison, you visited me.
Yours is, you know, the hell with you, and and you're on my hate list.
Well, no, I'd be like, I got a guy, he's gonna come visit you and let you know how I feel about this.
I got a guy that's gonna come there and kick the crap out of you.
Is that what you're saying?
I got a guy in cell block 12, sorry.
It's gonna come and say hi to you.
His name's Frank.
Stand by.
I did not plan on talking about any of this.
I don't know why, where it came from.
Regardless of all of this, I think it's beautiful to see that there's so many people of faith, you know, Christians, Catholic, you know, praising the world.
The Catholic Church has served me well.
It has served me so well in my life, and it gave me a foundation.
And I'm grateful for that.
Although now I consider myself non-denominational.
And it was, but it was nice to see it, although I wish this guy wasn't political.
I hope he doesn't go there where Pope Francis did.
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