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How Can Trump Bring Peace - May 8th, Hour 2
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We have had a lot of flare-ups with the Houdi rebels.
Now, two days ago, the president in the Oval Office said the Houdis were done.
They were going to stop their international waterways, all of their military activity, et cetera, et cetera.
Now you have the Houdis lashing out of President Trump, I believe probably at the direction of Iran, because Iran is clearly calling the shots here, saying, denying that they ever have been pleading for peace.
And the president now has been very clear.
Iran will never get a nuclear weapon.
The president has been clear they've got to stop enriching all uranium.
Marco Rubios confirmed as much with me as well, publicly, and that if they want nuclear power, like other countries like the UAE, for example, whatever the rods that are necessary for nuclear power will be given to them or they can purchase them.
But these facilities have to be dismantled.
And that would mean Americans observing the dismantling, maybe even involved in it.
And frankly, these facilities need to be destroyed.
The breakout time, once you get to 60% enrichment, which is where the IAEA even thinks that the Iranians are, to get to 90% weapons grade enrichment is next to nothing.
And then if you have the missile technology to deliver the system, well, you've got to think that people that believe in and chant death to Israel, death to America, and believe in a caliphate, which is convert or die, would be capable of using those weapons down the line.
We've seen them fire ballistic missiles at Israel.
Thanks to God, we have the Iron Dome to protect them for now.
But I would argue that's probably a band-aid, a temporary band-aid.
But they've been fomenting terror all throughout the Middle East.
They helped plan the attack on October 7th and 23.
They provided the weaponry.
You have the Quds forces, the Iranian Revolutionary Guard involved in the planning of all of this.
This came from the top.
That's the supreme leader.
They've been also helping, they're helping Hamas out of Gaza, Hezbollah out of Lebanon, the Islamic Jihad out of Lebanon, the Houthi rebels, and, of course, firing into Israel themselves.
Anyway, here to update us on what the odds are as I prepare to travel with the president to the Middle East next week is our friend Aaron Cohn, longtime friend of the program.
And Aaron, if you don't know, is an Israeli-trained career special operations and intelligence veteran.
Great to have you back, Aaron.
How are you?
Good to be with you, Sean.
I'm good.
Well, I'm making my first trip to Saudi Arabia and Qatar and the UAE and Abu Dhabi.
Have you ever been there?
I have never been to those regions, but I'm glad you have a deal with Six Hour.
I need to get you one of my holsters.
I don't think I'm going to be allowed to travel with it, but thank you anyway.
Well, look, I've been pretty outspoken against Sharia, pretty outspoken.
I'm not going to change.
I'm not going to change who I am.
However, I do see one of the things that really is sort of an untold story in the first Trump term is there was a coalition against Iranian hegemony, and it did include the U.S.
It did include Israel.
It did include the Saudis.
It did include the Emirates.
It did include the Jordanians and the Egyptians sharing intelligence and the like, all against Iranian hegemony.
Everybody in the region fears Iran, except some are just more quiet about it.
Let me speak to what you were saying right there, because the fear is what Iran has been able to successfully put out there.
These are the propaganda master puppeteers.
And I think for the first time, and we spoke about this just the other night on your show on Fox, what we're seeing for the first time now, regardless of what the Houthis are putting out, is that Trump is speaking the language of the Middle East correctly, more than any president I've seen in the last decade.
Biden, absolute failure.
But when Trump came in and hit the Houthis with a thousand-plus strikes over, I believe it was 50 days.
Correct me if I'm wrong.
That to me was almost less about dismantling the Houthis and more about signaling to Iran that this is very easy for us.
And you should be lucky that you're just dealing with Israel.
Because Israel will be selective with its strikes, Sean, and they'll really deploy that very specific pinpoint intel because Israel doesn't want to be the one to spark the entire region into pieces, which it always gets stuck in the middle of.
But once the big dog gets moved, which is Trump, and here's what I think Trump is doing really brilliantly, and I think you're going to see this as you get down there.
His ambiguity, I believe, puts that region on eggshells, which is the only thing that those mullahs understand.
What happens, we don't know.
And that scares them.
And so for the first time, the paradigm of fear is starting to shift.
And Trump changing his plan, mid-flight, changing his direction, not just with the Middle East, but with the tariffs and this one and that one.
That ambiguity that he creates, which I think comes from his deal world, his negotiations of real estate, creates that fear.
And it's the only language these people understand.
And you can kill them all day long, but the idea of getting killed by the Americans and being tacked with a thousand strikes by the Americans is almost worse than getting hit a thousand times by the Americans and the Israelis.
And I think that's what Trump has been able to architect very, very cleverly.
That's where I'm at.
I think there are too many people out there, Aaron, that have not heard the president clearly state that if the Iranians will not give up their nuclear ambitions, he was asked, well, would you work with the Israelis?
He said, we will lead the effort.
I don't think many people seem to hear that very, very clearly.
And obviously, that meant taking out these nuclear sites.
We have the capability of doing it.
Ultimately, Israel does, but they would probably, you know, it would be a better military effort if we were to use big bunker buster bombs, which would, I believe, have to come from America.
Otherwise, you could use tactical nukes if it comes down to it.
But I don't believe under any circumstances under Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, who I've known for 30 years, I don't see any circumstances where Iran will get close to a nuclear weapon when push comes to shove.
I agree with you, and I don't think so either.
And it's tricky because the president doesn't want to look like he's doing a Biden 2.0, which is he's allowing the Iranians to put together to have a nuclear program, and then we're going to go in and do inspections, which is similar.
The difference will be that the Israeli intelligence machine will have to keep an extremely close eye on the Iranians or Iranians through their network of flipped informants, which is what gave us the pager up and Qasem Suleimani.
I'm sure that intel came from us as well.
But Trump killed Qasem Suleimani.
Let's not forget that.
He didn't hesitate.
He's not afraid of targeted assassinations, which is very rare for U.S. military operations, particularly under Biden.
We never saw any military action under Biden.
He was just dumping billions to the Iranians to this day.
I can't understand why.
He was trying to appease.
So I agree with you, and I do believe that Trump is pulling back slightly to give the Iranians the benefit of the doubt and to show Saudi Arabia we can put Iran on a leash, but don't get it twisted.
A thousand of these rockets can rain down on every inch of your nuclear program, bunker busters on bunker buster on bunker buster.
But the president has been very clear.
He will go there.
They will not get nuclear weapons.
I don't think the one thing I know about Donald Trump, having known him for 30 years, if he says it, he means it.
It's not an idle threat.
And I think the Iranians have to know that.
I think they do.
I think they do.
I think they're scared of President Trump, and they should be.
Because I think President Trump, like you just said, I think he - All right, so then the next question is obvious.
Will they dismantle and allow Americans to observe?
Will they allow anywhere, anyplace, anytime inspections by Americans?
Because that's got to be part of any deal.
I'm not letting some international organization that historically has been anti-Semitic and anti-American do the observations.
You wouldn't put up with that either.
I think that they're going to have to.
And I think that we're going to have to rely heavily on Israeli intelligence assets to make sure that all of the hidden, if there's any hidden bunker, Sean, is going to be dead.
So the Iranians will lie, cheat, steal.
That's what they're going to do.
The IRGC has built the entire framework.
And end delay and try and buy time.
That's right.
They're going to try and buy time, but they're not going to be able to get away from Israel being able to pinpoint every single potential place where an inspection needs to occur.
And then they're going to get pushed back against the wall, the Iranians, and then they're going to have to make a decision.
But I think...
All right, question.
What do you think their breakout time is now?
I mean, public information has it anywhere from three months to a year.
I agree it's somewhere in that problem.
I believe that's a fair assessment of the time scale.
Okay, so that means three months is a pretty short period of time.
You know, we can't get that intelligence wrong.
The world historically has underestimated how much progress that they have made.
Historically, they have underestimated that.
I agree.
And I do think that the window for Iran being able to have nuclear-grade weapons capability is somewhere in that timeframe.
And I think that if the Americans have to tap and knock if it gets close and give them a little tickle, then that's what it'll be.
But I just, I don't think Iran is really understanding.
I think they understand that Trump is the real deal, and I think they're going to try and stretch it out.
And I'm hoping that there's meetings happening right now at Galilotsky in Tel Aviv with Israel's intelligence and the U.S. generals and Trump to say, look, these are all the places where everything is going to be hiding.
Time to start the inspections immediately.
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Aaron, by the way, an Israeli-trained career special ops intelligence veteran who has served in counterterrorism in that space for over two decades.
Let me ask you this.
Let's say it comes down to it and the president decides that a regime that believes in the caliphate and the converter die cannot have nuclear weapons.
It's too great a risk for the world.
And that would be my assessment.
I don't want a forever war.
I don't want American troops on the ground in the Middle East.
I don't think we need to.
I think if they take out the nuclear sites, they also then have the option of bankrupting that country by taking out their refineries.
Then they'll have no money.
And at that point, I believe probably it would be regime change, but then, you know, be careful what you wish for always, right?
I agree.
Reza Pahlavi or Pavlavi, the son of the former Shah, seems to be making the rounds.
Maybe there's conversations that are being happened.
Maybe there's conversations happening about flipping that regime change.
The Americans have been in the regime flipping business since the beginning of America.
I just hope they've gotten better at it.
And maybe they've got to leg up with Trump now in office to be able to make sure that if they do try the regime flip and they do go after the MOAs, that there needs to be all of that infrastructure in place very quickly with a lot of backing immediately with the strength and the help of the United States.
Because you might be right.
It might be the regime change with the strikes.
Nobody wants U.S. boots on the ground.
Israel doesn't want U.S. boots on the ground.
Israel's always been able to handle its own business when it comes to combat operations, minus buying weapons, which Israel pays for for the Americans to be used in Israel from the Americans that the Israelis can use in their operations.
But it might be time for that regime change.
And I think that's the option on the table.
Because ultimately, at the end of the day, I just don't think you can trust the molishan.
I think they're going to keep trying to draw this out.
And so what happens?
They want to pull you in the way Hamas pulled Israel into Gaza.
And so what ends up happening?
Got to make a regime change, but the system that the CIA built to flip the regime has to be comprehensive.
It's got to be comprehensive, and there's got to be a ton of meat behind it with a ton of smart people.
Ideally, the Iranians would understand the situation they're in, and they would realize that they're never going to be a nuclear power, and they would be able to remain in power and run their theocracy the way they want.
I don't think we would get involved.
But when they are an existential threat, the number one state sponsor of terror, they have earned what will end up happening.
They will decide their own fate.
And at the end of the day, I don't think it'll be a protracted war.
Because we'll take out the nuclear sites.
We'll take out their refineries.
We'll take out their weapons.
Israel already proved you can take out their air defense systems.
Anyway, Aaron Cohn, we appreciate you, sir.
Thank you.
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If you're just joining us, we do have a new pope, the first American pope ever elected.
And his name is Robert Prévost.
He has taken on the name Leo the 14th.
there's a whole story about why they take on names, et cetera, et cetera.
I was not under consideration, Linda, as we know, but it was kind of very interesting.
It's an opportunity missed for them.
I tell you what, the Vatican City doesn't know what they're missing.
No, you can't joke about it.
Some people have zero sense of humors.
The popes sometimes choose their names from a recent predecessor out of respect or indicate a desire to continue in their footsteps.
We're getting kind of mixed messages about this particular guy and now Pope Leo 14th.
Could tell you all about his background as we went through earlier in the program.
I won't repeat myself here.
Seems more conservative, a little bit more conservative than Pope Francis.
He's 69 years old, relatively young, considering the last two were well into their 70s when they were chosen.
And he is fluent in Spanish, Italian, and English, which is pretty interesting.
And again, born and raised in the suburbs of Chicago, first American Pope ever chosen, although he has served abroad for a big part of his career.
It appears he does not align with Pope Francis on issues involving the LGBTQ community.
New York Times has him quoted in 2012 saying about pop culture creating, quote, sympathy for beliefs and practices that are at odds with the gospel.
In a speech to bishops, he referred to the homosexual lifestyle and alternative families comprised of same-sex partners and their adopted children.
Seems a little bit more lenient on issues involving illegal immigration.
We made our announcement earlier that on Monday, I will be traveling with the president on Air Force One, reporting on his first big overseas trip.
We will land in Riyadh in Saudi Arabia.
That'll be our first stop.
And really, the purpose of this, and I asked if I can report on this trip, and we've done this before.
We've been to when the president went to Vietnam, when he went to Helsinki, when he went to Singapore, we were on all of those trips.
And it's part of what we do, although this time I'll have a little more access than I've had in previous trips, which I'm grateful for.
And basically, it's designed to kind of give you an insider's view of what a president does on these trips, what they're about.
And Linda will not be going on this trip.
You want to tell everybody why?
Oh, man, that was a big pause.
I was like, oh, what's the lead up?
All right.
Why am I not going?
No.
Because I'm not.
Go ahead.
Are you going to be a little bit more?
Well, we were joking, and it was a joke because you would be perfectly fine that you could cause an international incident.
I would cause an international incident because I don't engage in women.
No, I don't.
Right.
So you definitely have.
Well, I mean, and I do too.
You know what the thing is, though?
I mean, this is something that we've, you know, as Americans, we sometimes need to understand we're not going to change some countries from their deeply deep philosophical roots and belief systems.
And if you adopt, for example, Sharia law, that is, that's, that's, we are not going to change that.
And I think America in the past has thought that they can change ideology such as that.
And I don't think we can.
I don't think we should.
And I don't think we should try.
It's where things become problematic are those people that want to impose their beliefs on the rest of the world and believe in a caliphate.
And that means convert or die and are willing to, you know, in the name of religion, you know, murder and kill and wage jihad and holy war.
That's one of the things that's very problematic.
There's no support in the Quran for Sharia either.
I mean, Sharia is a man-made thing using the Quran as a clutch, you know, and saying, oh, okay, you know, this is where it comes from.
Here it is.
It's right here.
Oh, really?
Okay.
Paige number, please.
Thank you.
Well, the second country We're going to, you can say it both ways, either Qatar or Qatar.
I tend to say Qatar, but it's, and we're going to Doha, fairly modern city, far less stringent rules and regulations as compared to Saudi Arabia.
There is no doubt that a modernization in Saudi Arabia is taking place.
That is indisputable.
And then we go from there to the UAE and Abu Dhabi.
Never thought those three countries would be on my list of countries I'd visit in the course of my lifetime.
But one of the things that, I mean, I really want to do my one of my goals here is that I really want to give people kind of like an insider's view of what a president's trip like this looks like from behind the scenes.
And we'll have enough access, I think, to be able to do that.
Our plan is to do radio and TV, even though there's a seven-hour time difference.
I will be traveling on Monday and Friday.
That means we'll have fill-in-host those days.
And on Tuesday, Wednesday, and Thursday, we'll be doing our regular shows, both radio and television, from those remote locations.
We've done this in the past.
We've successfully from England and Singapore and Helsinki and where else to Vietnam.
So we have the capability of doing it, and we will.
And I hope people find it worthwhile.
You want to give me any advice before I go?
Yeah, don't take your teams.
Go by yourself.
Call it and tell us how it's going and leave us all on the edge of our seat.
That's what I think you should do.
I think this is a good question.
Just don't do.
Oh, you think I should take a vacation and just make it all about?
It's not a vacation.
Let's be very clear.
You're not going to like, you know, it's not my place for a vacation.
I'll leave it as that.
This is not what I would choose.
And I don't think it's what you would choose either.
But I think when you're going on Air Force One and you're going to be accompanying the president of the United States to meet foreign dignitaries and kings and princes and what have you, you go.
You don't need to try to fit in four hours of live media in the interim, just my humble opinion.
Okay, well, my job is to serve this audience.
That's my job.
Not next week.
Next week, you serve as measure of the president.
Nope.
No, I'm not going.
I'm going to do my job.
I'm not going as on a vacation.
What are you imagining here?
This is a vacation.
I never said that.
It's not.
It's work.
I'm saying exactly.
And part of my work, my job is to serve this audience and to give them news information.
And in this case, a backstory that they're not going to get from anybody else.
And that's what I plan to bring them.
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How close are you to more deals?
And what do you expect the next to be announced?
Well, very close.
We have numerous deals.
I know Howard's going back as soon as this is finished, your press conference, he's got numerous.
And Scott, who's right over here, who's fantastic, by the way, you were great on television this morning.
I want you.
You gave him a little lesson in the world and economics.
But Scott's going to be going to Switzerland, meeting with China.
And, you know, they very much want to make a deal.
We can all play games.
Who made the first call?
Who didn't make it?
It doesn't matter.
It only matters what happens in that room.
But I will tell you that China very much wants to make a deal.
We'll see how that works out.
Every country throughout the last 40, 50 years has literally ripped off the United States on trade, on military protection, on all the different things.
And we are now making fair deals.
Let's get to our phones as we say hi to Jonathan.
He's in the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania.
Jonathan, hi, how are you?
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You know why Democrats are attacking your senator, John Fetterman, is because John Fetterman dared to break with the rigidity of the radicalism now adopted by the left on issues involving the border and Iran.
And he stood up for Israel.
That is the real reason these recent attacks have come at him.
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Anyway, what's on your mind, Jonathan?
Glad you're with us.
Thank you for having me.
I've been listening to you ever since I was younger when my dad used to play your show in the truck.
That's awesome.
I'm glad now you're listening freely as a young adult.
How old are you?
21.
Oh, that's awesome.
What are you doing with your life?
I go to college at Duquesne University in Pittsburgh.
Oh, great.
What do you study?
Marketing and sales.
Great for you.
I wish you the best career possible.
You know, there was an interesting article today, and you might find this interesting, about young people.
And companies now in America, and I thought this was so fascinating, are now offering salaries to high school students starting at $70,000 a year, and they're training them in the trades because there is a shortage.
Companies are desperate to hire skilled tradespeople.
So they're willing to trade them and pay them good money to start their careers out.
And a lot of young people are choosing that.
But I wish you well in your chosen profession.
Just remember, anything worthwhile in life is hard to do.
Work hard.
Work harder than everyone else.
Be dedicated.
And don't be entitled.
I think there's too many young people that are entitled today.
No, yeah, that is exactly right.
And I really appreciate the good luck.
But one of my main concerns is actually talking about my generation.
So at college, majority of the people where I go to school, and I assume majority of colleges around the United States, is the amount of brainwash or how brainwashed these kids are.
And I just think it's absolutely ridiculous because I'm sure you understand what it's like to argue with stupid.
It's nearly impossible.
And I kind of wanted to see if I could get your advice or to see what you thought on how I can go about having these conversations with these people because it is nearly impossible to talk to you.
Are you talking about students or professors or both?
You know what?
I might as well add the teachers in two because they do push their agendas as well.
Listen, it depends what your career goals are.
I mean, there's no shame.
I had one professor at NYU once, you know, the first words out of his mouth is that he's a Marxist and a communist.
And I ended up spending half the semester.
I was the person we would argue.
He and I would argue the entire class, and that went on for the whole second half of the semester.
And I did not care, you know, that it would impact my grade.
And I was usually a Dean's List student, not always, but most of the time, in college.
And I just rolled the dice.
I got an A- on the midterm.
And that was before I started speaking up.
And then I started speaking up, and I ended up with a C-plus in the class, which is the lowest grade I ever got in college.
I always was pretty much an A student, occasional B-plus, whatever.
And so it was a little frustrating to me.
I think it was because of my politics.
I ran into this guy years later, put him on Hannity and Combs.
He remembered me, which was fascinating.
But if you have goals that say, let's say you want to get into medical school, which is hard, graduate school, which is hard, law school, which can be hard, and you just play the game and just get, you know, regurgitate back as long as you know that you're doing it, there's no shame in that because, you know, pick your fight sometimes in life.
You know, it's however, if you feel strongly enough that you want to take on these professors or other students, and you know, I would say do it with a smile on your face.
You know, be patient, you know, loving, understand that they've been indoctrinated probably their entire life into a system of thinking that is faulty.
Try and awaken them, but do it in a nice way.
I think you can be persuasive.
And I try to keep it nice and cordial, but it's just difficult because they're so strong and they're so extreme with their views.
It's almost like it's impossible to break through.
And I feel like it's only going to get worse.
Yeah, look, it's getting worse, but on the other hand, young people are waking up.
Anyway, my friend, thank you.
Appreciate the call.
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