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Speaker Newt Gingrich on a Changing Nation - May 2nd, Hour 2
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Hour two.
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Always a privilege to welcome back to the program.
Uh former Speaker of the House, New King Rich, uh, Mr. Speaker has a new book soon to be released.
It's called Trump's Triumph that talks about changing the nation, the world under President Trump.
You know, I'm I'm actually kind of focusing in on the shock and awe aspect and all the reverberations surrounding Donald Trump and and this week the milestone of a hundred days and the left going insane and and crazy and absolutely they're the they are the the nuts party.
And more importantly, how the president has taken on the institutionalist mindset and he looks at everything anew, and that is shocking to people.
And it's not shocking to people like yourself because you in your way did it in a major way, actually, when you were Speaker of the House, but it took some getting used to before you even became speaker.
They they were saying you're the Scrooge that stole Christmas.
Well, before we jump into that, I'm just reminding you of the fond memories of of of yesteryear.
No, listen.
Well, we we you know we still are the only people to balance the budget for four years and literally a hundred last century in a hundred years.
So I'm pretty proud of that.
And now we have a chance to chat a little bit.
I'm not letting you get off of last night.
I thought you putting first of all, putting President Trump in a great speech in Alabama, and then pivoting immediately to Kamala Harris looking lonely, pathetic, confused.
I thought that was as cruel as anything I I told I talked to the president later on because I thought his speech was historic and extraordinary.
I told him I thought what you did was really mean.
You said what was mean about it?
Well, because she's perfect.
Look, just by herself, she's pathetic.
But you put her up next to Trump.
Kind of by design, if you know, I actually think through these things, and I thought it was a perfect transition.
I know, okay.
I mean and if you remember, I I stopped at one point and I said, I need to, as a public service, thank each and every one of you for going out and working so hard and voting in this election to save us from that.
Oh, I know.
And I tell you, that was as bad as I've ever seen her.
I mean, I'm so it was so bad.
I don't know what was worse, the giggling, the elephant story, or the dancing.
Well, just the look on her face.
I mean, it's like, you know, she's uh the something I think she cannot come to grips with having lost.
And so she's now living in a total fantasy world.
Anyway.
But but isn't that the case for most people?
Haven't haven't we learned that yet.
No, no, I mean, uh isn't it uh the the regular practice though?
Somebody runs for president, they all believe they're gonna win.
That's what I've learned.
Sure.
And they they and and some people a lot of people we've seen in our lifetime, Hillary Clinton would be one.
I'd argue John McCain was never the same after he lost, Mitt Romney was never the same after he lost.
I mean, you can go down the list and people lose and then they lose their minds.
That's true.
And then maybe that's what's happened to her, which frankly, considering how little she had to lose, is not as big a loss as it could have been.
Um but uh I just thought it was remarkable.
And by the way, I went back, I got so intrigued after the show.
I went back and got the transcript.
I think there's a section towards the end where Trump goes through ten lessons of life that he has learned that I think is so remarkable that I'm encouraging the administration to find ways to get it distributed.
I mean, it is the essence of an intelligent, serious conservatism at a personal level.
Uh and it's funny you're bringing all this up because I watched I had never watched a long documentary about him, and I saw one maybe it was on Netflix Netflix or or Apple, I don't remember, and I just watched it and I and I I said to him in a private conversation, and I don't mind sharing it with you, it's it's I'm sure we wouldn't care, that what a remarkable life this man has lived.
And I know the four hardest years, I mean, he could have walked away half in in 2021 and and just said I I became president and gone on him uh with the rest of his life, and probably they would have left him alone, is my guess.
And he decided to fight back, and he he made it his mission, and he put all his chips in the middle of the table, and it was either the White House or frankly, in my view, the big house.
It was no in between.
And he laid it on the line for his country for what he believed in and just being the fighter that he is, and and that's what the sh the shock and awe that we see politically every day.
Well, that's right.
And and what I was impressed with, I put myself the in the in the place of those young people at that commencement speech.
And here's the guy who is a billionaire, who is the president of the United States, who has survived assassination attempts, uh impeachment attempts, efforts to put him in jail, and he is literally at one point in the speech sharing and it's very effective.
I mean, I've I literally spent part of the morning going over it and thinking about it, sharing ten lessons about life that he had learned that he wanted them to learn.
And and it was a reminder to me that Trump is much more a cultural figure with political consequences than he is a traditional political figure.
He the reason he resonates is he speaks to the very core of American values, to the work ethic, to a belief in a better future, to a willingness to do what it takes to win.
I mean, uh it is truly and I I urge all of our listeners to just get that one section, uh, which I'm gonna post it at Gangridge 360 because I th I think it's so phenomenal.
You know what?
In many ways I see a lot of similarities in you.
I remember one speech you gave, I am a genuine revolutionary.
You know the speech that I'm referring to.
Yeah.
And the way that people took that the wrong way.
But you know, if there was three waves of conservatism in our lifetime culminating in the MAGA movement or Make America Great Again movement, I mean it was Reagan, it was the Gingrich Revolution, and and this is now somebody uh that is literally taking a chainsaw to the to conventional thinking in Washington, which I think is beyond refreshing to me, which is why the left has lost their mind and their spirit, and frankly, they've c in my view have become a soulless party.
Well, look, I I think that's right, and and and you see you're gonna see this, and you'll hear me talk about this a lot in the next six weeks.
Republic the Republican plan on Medicaid raises spending every year.
Never cuts it.
The Democrats are gonna and back to your point about having no soul, Democrats as a strategy are gonna lie to the American people every day, and I think it's a trap for them.
I think when the American people realize, and we just did a poll at the America's New Majority Project that we won, uh, and when people are told the facts, only fourteen percent think it's in any way a cut.
Everybody else is totally happy with it, believes it's a fair thing to do, and this is an example where Trump is going to be, I think, extraordinarily important, and I'm hoping that he'll go on the road and go to ten at least ten districts held by Democrats where he had a majority of the vote And explain exactly what's going to be in the reconciliation bill and why you should vote yes.
And I think it'll be one of the great moments in American history because the country will rally and the country will say, Yeah, this is the kind of change we need.
And the Democrats then are faced with either crumbling and doing what Trump wants, or I think basically putting themselves in a long-term decline as a dishonest, corrupt party that votes for things that are you just can't explain.
You see, but the the reason you're so knowledgeable about this, and I lived this with you and watched it all unfold when you reduced it's called baseline budgeting, built-in spending increases.
That that that's the establishment thinking process where you you budget in a ten percent increase every year for however many years, and then you know, you insisted on a seven percent increase every year for seven years, and they were calling it a cut.
It was not a cut, it was a seven percent increase every year.
Uh, those were the exact numbers that we were debating back then, and the exact same lies that Trump will deal with that you had to deal with.
You know, the one thing I give him credit for, though, I wasn't smart enough to come up with the idea of fake, uh as a way of just describing all of it.
So I've said recently that the last three bastions of of opposing Trump are the fake news media, uh the fake district judges, and the fake CBO.
And fake CBO is going to produce a fake score.
And we need to deal with it that way.
We need to say to people up front, this is part of the corruption you're tired of.
These people lie to you because they want your money.
I wrote a piece the other day uh on uh Jerry the movie Jerry McGuire, where the the football player uh has show me the money.
Yeah.
I said, you want to know what the heart of the fight over reconciliation is going to be?
It's gonna be every interest group saying, Show me the money.
No, no policies, no sense.
By the way, you know, you know who is uh resisting now the most?
Uh Republican lawmakers in California and New York because they want salt deduction, state and local taxes deducted, and how much that they ought to be able to deduct every year, which to me only rewards states that elect tax and spend liberal local politicians.
I know why they're doing it, because they it seems like they're bringing the bacon back to the district.
Yeah, I think I look when you're when you're in a very marginal district, uh you're anxiety ridden, uh, you try to figure out how to appease people, but in the long run, you're better off to win the argument.
This will be a good bill.
California, by the way, has a state legislator who just this week proposed a Democrat who proposed that the first twenty-five thousand dollars you steal on welfare should not be considered a crime.
You gotta be kidding.
And by the way, you know what they took out of that bill.
There was this one bill, uh, if somebody's uh assaulted, it would be a misdemeanor of it's against a woman, I believe sixteen or seventeen years old, if I'm not mistaken.
That they they put that in the bill.
Oh, I know.
I mean, the the California Democrats are uh I think are the epitome of having lost their minds.
Well, let me ask you, do you think Gavin Newsom, I think do you agree with me?
I think he has his eyes on the White House.
Do you think he has any shot?
Oh, look, this is a free country.
Everybody has a shot.
I mean, there were sixteen guys that got on stage with Donald Trump.
They all had a shot.
They just didn't get to win.
Uh do I think Newson will be the next president?
No.
I think when people when people learn how really sick California's become, uh how many people are leaving it because they just can't stand it, and how much I mean, Newsom is part of the San Francisco Mafia.
Uh these guys are are a corrupt old machine of huge amounts of money, uh, and they are so far to the left that they they probably wonder, you know, why people like Gorbachev were so moderate.
All right, quick break, right back more with former speaker of the House, New Kingrich on the other side.
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So I'm asking everybody questions only because I just just out of a pure interest.
If you had to guess today, who's going to be the Democrats nominee in 28?
Uh I have no idea.
I think I think it'll be probably an unknown person.
You really do.
It may well be a billionaire who comes out of nowhere.
Do you see any path for a moderate, let's say a Josh Shapiro to get the nomination, because I don't.
Oh yeah.
Well, there's a path, but it'd be it'll be tough.
I read Pritzker's speech in in uh New Hampshire.
You know, Prisco's rich enough that if he wants to run, he can fund the whole thing.
Uh now he's also, I think, a terrible governor.
He's a left winger and not a very attractive personality.
But but there's so many people like that out there.
Uh and and I I don't think we know yet if if Trumpism is working, if the economy which I think it will be, if the economy is booming, if if we really are healthier, safer, and people feel good about it, uh, the Democrats will be in turmoil because some of them will rationally say, shouldn't we kind of go towards the center?
But their hard left is going to say no.
You know, you have to be of the true faith.
You have to be for things that are insane.
If you're not, which is the whole story of the California Democratic Party.
Democratic primary voters tend to be leaning towards the more radical left.
Don't you agree?
Yeah, I think I think you get the excitement in the turnout uh with the Bernie Sanders AOC, you know, and and and uh, you know, I mean to be fair, Newsom, if if if he starts with California, uh he has a pretty big block to start with, but I I personally find Newsom not convincing.
I mean, he he is so plastic.
Uh now that might just be my bias because I'm come from a different brand of politics.
But I mean I I frankly think that that the governor of of Michigan is much more dangerous, or the governor of Pennsylvania are both much more dangerous than he is.
But again, you know, who where's the energy in the party?
The energies towards AOC, Bernie, and Jasmine Crockett.
That's right.
You know.
I'm gonna go over the ten things that you're gonna post on uh Gingrich 360, and we'll post we'll we'll link to yours uh when you put it up uh on Hannity.com.
Uh Mr. Speaker, we always enjoy having you.
Um I first interviewed Newt Gingrich in nineteen ninety in Decatur, Alabama, in a holiday in hotel room and there is a picture somewhere, I don't know where, but there is one.
And I have I and I have a renewing American Civilization.
Um what do you call those tapes?
The VHS tapes.
I have those for you.
Uh that I promised I have to get them mailed out to you.
American Civilization was a course.
It's a course I taught.
And then it is.
It's phenom I went back and watched it.
I ordered it on like eBay years ago, and then I kept it.
Yeah, I think it's fair to say I I got to be a much more competent politician, and you got to be a much more confident radio host.
But boy, I would love to have that original interview of the two of us.
Uh I I would I would rather never hear it as long as I live.
I really don't want to go by I I can't stand listening to old shows of mine.
I hate it.
I hate I hate watching myself or listening to myself.
It's awful.
It's torture.
You want to torture me, just play tapes of me around the clock.
That's nothing absurd.
Uh I I sort of fell in love with you because you had you're you had pure guts.
Uh, you didn't you don't know a lot yet, but by God, you were gonna try.
And I just thought that is exactly what we need.
And when you see this stuff from Trump, you'll see yourself.
No, okay.
I'm gonna go over that one uh at the bottom of the hour.
Uh Newt Gingrich, we appreciate it as always.
Thank you, sir.
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Go to lines one and two.
Okay.
Lines one and two.
Blake is in Texas, God bless Texas.
Linda's in Nebraska.
Uh Blake and Lynn, uh, welcome to the program.
And Linda says you're up first.
I'm not sure why.
Uh, welcome both of you.
Nice to Sanity.
See you and Mr. Hannity.
How are you doing, sir?
I'm good.
Who is this?
Lynn or is this Blake?
This is Lin, his daddy.
Yeah, this Oh, okay.
Oh, you're you're Blake's father.
Terrific.
Yes, sir.
Oh, okay.
Blake, how are you doing?
You're God bless Texas and Nebraska as well.
What's going on in Texas?
Oh, not much.
Just uh trying to survive the rain.
We've got about twelve and a half inches over the last two weeks and trying to fix fences and keep cows in the pasture, but the the creeks like to keep wash them away.
Now, do you do you are you a farmer?
What do you do for a living?
Uh right now, um I'm a full-time ranch uh hand, so uh, you know, there's about uh 8,000 acres and stuff where I work at and trying to take care of all these cows and horses and everything and so you're living like the Yellowstone life, which by the way, when I'm having a bad day, I'm thinking maybe working on a ranch wouldn't be such a bad deal.
Well, it it comes in uh, you know, it's good and it's bad days, you know.
Some days are worse than others, but you know, we like to see the rain because we've had we've had months without rain, and that's worse than it being flooded, so I'll take high waters over low waters any day of the week.
No, I get it.
I mean, it's it's it's tough.
I don't care if you're farming, I don't care if you're ranching.
Uh, but I'm grateful to farmers and ranchers and truckers, cause they they keep our store shelves uh full, and I get to go on Instacart or go to the store and pick out whatever I want.
And you know, I I just ordered a bunch of steaks yesterday, New York strip, and uh had uh one for breakfast this morning with my eggs.
It was great.
Yeah, them let me say them steaks are the lot into making them things.
I'll give I say that.
It takes it's a pretty long process and uh tedious process, I should say.
Yeah.
Uh Lynn, what's going on with you in Nebraska?
You did is this like your way of communicating?
You gotta call the show together to communicate with each other.
I'm trying to get figured this out.
Yes, sir.
Oh, Mr. Hannity, I spoke with you years ago.
I've I was one that got laid off on the Keystone XL pipeline and uh Biden hamstring us about four years, and this boy they're talking to here.
You uh you give him ten thousand dollars one time and uh I I just want to tell you from the bottom of my heart from uh uh wonderful pleasing father of uh a good son.
Thank you very much because it did go straight to his college and he is graduating to be a Texas State game warden.
No way.
Um I I I wish I can honestly, how many years ago was this?
This is sir, this was probably twenty twenty-one.
It was twenty-one.
I remember the interview, um, because you know, he just got laid off when Joe Biden got inaugurated that day.
Um you know, thousands of workers just like him got laid off.
You know, he was putting me through college.
Um I didn't have no student loans or anything.
He was funding it, and you know, he was you know in a bind, because you know, he needed to provide, and without money it's pretty hard to provide and you know, you you done a great deed and gave ten thousand dollars to my to my college fund, and those uh those dollars didn't go wasted because I graduate here in about three weeks and pursue my pursue my lifelong goal.
So we just kind of wanted to get on here and say thank you for thank you for that deed, and it was very much appreciated by both of us.
Lynn Linda, you you set this up apparently because I had no idea that this was coming, but um why is well first of all it's my I I will tell you this.
Uh uh my heart my heart goes out to the people that really make the country great, and that is the working men and women.
And when I hear stories where politicians ruin lives, like in in your case, Lynn, and and here you had, I'm sure, a pretty at the time a high paying career job and on the Keystone XL pipeline, and that gets ripped out from under you for stupid political reasons and and giving into environmental you know, radicals and extremists.
I mean, that's heartbreaking.
And then you uh you have kids and you have bills to pay and responsibilities and a dream that you want to send your kid to college and and help them better their lives.
I mean, I I mean that that's I I th that's that's what we do as parents, isn't it?
That's what we're supposed to do.
And if I'm able to help a little bit, I try to help as much as I can.
You know, I feel like I've lived an undeserved life.
I I never thought I'd be successful in anything, to be very honest.
You know, I was I was happy working in construction, I was happy working in restaurants.
Uh I'm happier doing this, but I never thought I'd make money doing this.
I matter of fact, I started working for free, but I'm I'm glad I was able to help you guys.
It sounds like it really ended well.
It it did, Mr. Hannity, and I'm gonna tell you something.
Number one, I'd like to just say, God bless Donald J. Trump, because he's brought us oil field workers back, pipeline workers, plant workers, and and and I'm gonna tell you this third and fourth year uh quarters is is gonna be excellent next year, is gonna be super excellent, and the next year after that is gonna be we're not gonna have enough manpower.
And it's it's amazing.
A man that is a businessman with common horse sense, it comes in here and gets things going that is a businessman that that can prosper the parents because Mr. Hannity, I don't work for me.
I work for them kids.
That is my ultimate goal in life.
That's my God given privilege to take care of them boys growing up and watching them grow, who I am well pleased with.
I am so thankful they was born.
I just I give thanks to my Lord Jesus Christ every day because of these kids, and they're growing, and and it it's just it's it's heartbreaking whenever you have a president to come in and I mean hamstring you and cut you down to nothing, and all I've ever known for 35 years is welding, and I've done good with it.
And to and this is the first time in my whole career when one man comes in office and I'm talking, it goes from from good to bad.
And it just as a father, uh, I can relate to everything you're saying.
It rips your guts out.
Yep.
You know, ever s ever since my kids were born.
I mean, I I've started putting whenever I could as much money away for their for their college.
Uh I can I can proudly say um they've both graduated college and they went to the colleges that they wanted to go to.
I didn't have any say in any by the way, my kids told me where they're going to college.
I had no say in it at all whatsoever, which didn't annoy the hell out of me.
Um, but it it's it's their life, it's their dream.
It's not mine.
I've I I pursued my life the way I wanted to, and it's up to them now to pursue theirs.
And I'm just glad this worked out for both of you.
Um and and really, you know, when you really think about it, I think it's the goal of any parent, you know, to hand off, you know, a better life to your children and your grandchildren.
And I know in my case, both my parents grew up poor, my grandparents came here, all four of them from Ireland poor.
And I know I stand on their shoulders.
And uh I I'm I'm grateful to them because they live much harder lives than I do.
Whenever I stop bitching, moaning and complaining, whining in my head or my heart, I I stop myself by remembering, you know what, I don't have it so bad.
Yes, sir.
Yes, sir.
Well, we're we're we're blessed.
Me and my me and my family is is blessed and highly favored.
God sees favor favoring us every day.
And I just I'm thankful for it.
Well, I'm proud of you, Blake.
Good job.
Lynn, you're a great dad.
Um, I'm glad I could help a little bit.
And um, I'm very touched by your story.
More importantly, by your faith, your your work ethic.
Uh, you both personify what makes this country great, and I'm grateful to both of you.
Uh God bless you both.
Please stay in touch, and we really appreciate you checking back in with us.
Thank you.
Yes, sir.
Thank you, Mr. Hannity.
It's much appreciated.
Thank you.
All right, God bless you.
And and your kids when they're coming along too.
Uh all right, you set me up.
Thanks a lot.
But that's a good story.
That's like one of those stories where you know, you you feel, my God, there's so much bad news.
And he called in and he was talking to Katie, and he was reminding us of when he called in.
And it the weird thing is is like when you're going through it, it feels so long, but then he's like, Oh, yeah, he's graduating.
I'm like, what?
Like he's done and he's moving on and he's starting his life, and you know, you have a little bit more than the average bear, and the fact that you're willing to share it with so many people is you know, it's really not common, Sean.
Most people are are really, you know, they're just they just don't do what you do.
So I I thought it was great that he wanted to call in and and and talk to you.
And he's just I mean, my God, listen to him.
He's like, I'm blessed and favored by the Lord.
I mean, the guy is so reverent, so kind, so grateful.
It's just he's just awesome.
I don't know.
I mean, I I I don't understand.
I do know people in life that are cheap.
I really do.
And I I sometimes it's it's inexplicable to me.
You know, I do have this sense that if you've been blessed in your life, that you do have an obligation to help other people.
I can't help everybody out, you know, uh, but when I can and I see the moment, um, you know, like churches talk about tithing, right?
And I do give money to my church.
Um, but I'm not the big the the there's lots of ways to me you can tithe.
And maybe I'm just this is my own thought process, but when you see somebody in need, you help them.
I think that just is if you can, you help them.
Um, I saw this thing the other day on X, and I'm addicted to X, I'm always on it.
But this guy is a homeless guy, he's working in a grocery store, and there's um there's this guy that goes around and he will pretend that he needs something, right?
Like he'll walk into a store and he'll say, Hey, do you have a dollar?
I'm trying to get baby food and I can't afford it.
And whoever helps him out from the kindness of their heart, he gives them like five hundred dollars or a thousand dollars or whatever.
This particular guy worked at the store, gave him the dollar, and he goes, Listen, this is this is all I have, but I hope it helps with your baby.
And he hands them five hundred dollars on the spot.
Well, somebody else stopped him on the way and he said, Listen, that guy's homeless.
He just gave you a dollar out of his pocket.
He literally lives on the street and then you know, cleans up at like a shelter and then comes into work.
And so he started like a gives and go or a GoFundMe Online firm.
They raised a hundred thousand dollars for this homeless man.
Because he was the American people are so generous, it's unbelievable.
They are.
You know, my my kids, uh, it was fairly recently, they're both in the car with me, right?
And um, I just see this this old elderly homeless guy, and it was such a sad, sad picture.
I mean, his head is down, obviously looks just so beaten down, depressed, defeated, and I just pulled over the car.
And my kids in the back are like amongst themselves, and they told me after they're betting how much I was gonna give the guy.
Because they've they've seen me do this before, and we talk about it.
The only thing I do say to people when I give the money, I'm saying, please don't spend this money, my money on alcohol and drugs.
I do say that.
And I asked them, Are you drinking?
Are you, you know, and some people are honest, some people aren't.
You know, in this case, I don't think the guy drank.
I really don't.
I just uh I hope he didn't.
I hope well, uh, I didn't get he certainly was sober when when I saw him.
Didn't seem like the type of guy that was using drugs.
And so, you know, I just handed the guy.
I I always carry cash.
My kids don't understand that either.
They don't care kids today.
Don't carry cash.
Do your kids carry cash.
You gotta carry cash.
Cash is kicking.
Exactly.
I tell them all the time, and I'm like, how much do you have on you?
And I uh I'm like, oh and then I'm like, I'm taking money out of my pocket, always carry cash.
I have to have fight with them every single time I see them.
I'm like, I what do I tell you?
Always carry cash.
And anyway, so I gave the guy a hundred bucks, and I'm like, I'm and I just think, and my kids asked me, well, what if they what if they do buy alcohol or drugs?
I said, That's on them.
Because I asked them not to do that.
At that point, and there was a point in my life I thought, well, you're just enabling people, etc.
etc.
I mean, when somebody's that beaten down, there's nothing that they're gonna be that you're gonna be able to say that's gonna get them into a job that day or anytime soon.
And so many people have mental health issues.
Anyway, I think that we it is nice, and I and I will say this the American people and all of you in your own way, I'm sure, have all reached into your pocket to help people out when you can.
And it doesn't matter, I don't care if it's two dollars or five dollars.
I don't care what it is.
It's it's it's and it's not a cliche to say it's the thought that counts, it's just human decency.
If you can help people, why not?
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