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War Against Ozempic - March 10th, Hour 2
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So on Saturday, I went with RFK Jr.
We filmed this.
We're going to air some of it tonight, probably a two-part series, maybe three.
I don't know.
We talked for a lot longer than I thought we were going to talk.
And we went to a steak and shake in Florida where we met up and where they had made a decision to change the oil in which they make their french fries.
And I'm embarrassed to say, I'd never been to a steak and shake before.
I will tell you, I had a burger.
I usually don't eat fries.
Most of you know that I'm pretty keto-friendly in my diet.
I'm pretty much, you know, meat, fish, eggs, that's it.
And I'm pretty rigid in my diet, my dietary plan.
But because they changed the oil from seed oil, a lot of people don't really realize the difference and what a dramatic difference it is to tallow oil.
And I'll explain the difference with Gary Brecca in just a second.
It just is much, much healthier.
You know, it's very fascinating when you discover why won't Europe import American produce and American meat?
Well, it's simple because of pesticides and hormones that we use here in this country.
How come there is a different version of fruit loops for Europe and Canada versus the one that is in the United States?
A lot of it has to do with the ingredients and a lot of it has to do with the dyes that they put in fruit loops.
Not that I'd ever eat fruit loops.
And so I mentioned all of this is, okay, well, then you look at the rates of autism.
You look at the obesity epidemic in the country, the diabetes epidemic in the country.
And there's something very, very wrong in what we are doing.
And there's something to this Make America Healthy Again movement.
I just adopted it because, you know, for the last 14 years, I've been doing mixed martial arts training, but also I got to a period a few years ago where I had to lose some weight.
And so I changed my diet, changed it dramatically, changed it to a keto-friendly diet.
And my blood work has never been better.
And wait till you hear the story about Dana White and Gary Brecca in just a second.
Anyway, RFK was talking about how maybe so many Americans wouldn't be so reliant on these weight loss shots like Ozempic and Wagovi and some of the other weight loss drugs.
Not that I'm against them.
I think there's a place for them because two of the best things you can do in life, I think, is walk 10,000 steps a day, get some sunshine.
And another thing is to lose weight.
A lot of people carrying a lot of visceral fat around them.
Anyway, here's what RFK Jr.
Today, over 100 members of Congress support a bill to fund Ozempic with Medicare at $1,500 a month.
Most of these members have taken money from the manufacturer of that product, a European company called Novo Nordisk.
As everyone knows, once a drug is approved for Medicare, it goes to Medicaid.
And there is a push to recommend Ozempic for Americans as young as six over a condition of obesity that is completely preventable and barely even existed 100 years ago.
Since 74% of Americans are obese, the cost of all of them, if they take their Ozempic prescriptions, will be $3 trillion a year.
This is a drug that has made Novo Nordis the biggest company in Europe.
It's a Danish company, but the Danish government does not recommend it.
It recommends a change in diet to treat obesity and exercise.
Virtually Novo Nordis' entire value is based upon its projections of what Ozempic is going to sell to Americans.
For half the price of Ozempic, we could purchase regeneratively raised organic agriculture or organic food for every American, three meals a day, and gym membership for every obese American.
Why are members of Congress doing the bidding of this Danish company instead of standing up for American farmers and children?
Because Novo Nordis is one of the largest funders of medical research.
The media and politicians and the medical schools all go along with them.
Gary Brucker is with us.
He's a 20-year human biologist.
He's obsessed with how people can achieve peak functionality within themselves through innovative ways.
In other words, proactive steps you can take in your life that will make you healthier, that you won't need weight loss drugs, and that will make you feel better, be healthier generally overall.
And Gary, great to have you on the program.
We're doing a podcast that will be coming out shortly with Gary.
He is well known in the health, wellness, fitness, nutrition space as one of the leading people.
He has worked with people like Dana White and people like our buddy Stephen A. Smith and a bunch of other famous people.
Gary, how are you, sir?
I'm doing amazing, Sean.
It's great to hear your voice.
Great to be back on your show.
Well, I was hoping you'd be able to make it on Saturday, but you had a more important function to go to, and that was a UFC fight.
And I think you made the right choice.
It was great fights, and I got to spend some time with Dana and Joe Rogan out there.
And we went to the slap on Friday night, which I'm still trying to get my arms around the slap as a sport.
Oh, man.
Let me tell you, that is, I love it.
I can't help it.
It's brutal.
And I just, it's entertaining.
I mean, and these guys are tough as nails to take that shot.
You just sit there and somebody slaps you as hard as they can in your head.
And if they get the first shot, a lot of times you're done.
Yeah, and you know, if you flinch, you get slapped again, Sean.
You get a free slap.
If your opponent flinches, I think I'd be flinching left and right.
I think I'll pass on that, especially, you know, because I practice mixed martial arts targeted strikes, and you hit somebody in the right area.
You're going to knock them out every time, although there are certain rules associated with it.
So I go with Robert F. Kennedy Jr.
What is the difference?
Why is tallow oil so superior to the seed oils that we keep that most people have?
And that would be like the Wesson oils.
And I don't want to hurt companies and their brands, but why is this a healthier alternative?
Why is what steak and shake doing superior?
And I will say that this is the best burger I've had in years.
And you had the fries, too.
And I had some fries, too.
There's a number of reasons, Sean.
I mean, first of all, oils have a smoke point, a point at which temperatures will denature them and turn them rancid.
So seed oils have a much lower smoke point than something like a grass-fed butter, a coconut oil, or a beef tallow, or even a ghee butter.
So when you use these oils to deep-fry, you're not deep-frying in a rancid, putrefied, denatured oil.
So beef tallow is one of the most stable oils at high temperature.
It actually will not denature or turn rancid.
And a lot of these seed oils, you know, people think that we're attacking the plant.
We're not actually attacking the plant.
But you have to understand in the manufacturing process of these types of oils, it's the distance from the plant to the table that's very important.
Now, a lot of these oils, when they're put in commercial presses, they come out gummy.
So the plant is a very thick, kind of gummy substance.
And so they have to de-gum it with something called sodium hydroxide or hexane.
And when you take hexane, which is a known neurotoxin, to de-gum an oil, you then have to raise the temperature of the oil to about 405 degrees, which turns it rancid.
So now you have a putrefied, deep-boned, rancid oil.
And then you deodorize it with sodium hydroxide, a very well-known, powerful carcinogen.
So you use a neurotoxin.
You make the oil putrid and rancid, and then you add a carcinogen.
And then in some cases, they're even bleached and then bottled before you put them on the shelf.
You'll notice when you walk down the grocery store aisle, Sean, that all of these oils are exactly the same color.
They're the same thickness.
They're the same viscosity.
They have that beautiful, bright yellowish color, and it's exactly the same.
That's not how it happens in nature.
If you were to take a thousand bottles of these oils and press them, these plants and press them into oils, you wouldn't have this uniformity.
And then, of course, we stick a heart-healthy label on it, which is the biggest crime, in my opinion, because you buy off some of these institutions that are really meant to protect and advise the public, and you stick a heart, healthy American Heart Association label on it.
And so an unexpecting or unassuming consumer grabs that off the shelf, thinking this is a heart, healthy oil, that this is the best thing for their families.
So it's important to know that you can have beef tallow in your kitchen.
I mean, these are very inexpensive oils.
And you can actually get a strained beef tallow, and you can use this to cook at high temperatures.
It tastes delicious, doesn't denature, doesn't turn rancid.
And this whole maha movement is really shining light on the fact that we don't have to come in and take over your freedoms and your choices.
We just want to take the poisons and the forever chemicals out of our diet, not take over people's choices.
You know, the flack that I see sometimes that Bobby Kennedy gets for Maha is that, oh, he's not going to let us eat burgers anymore.
He's not going to allow us to smoke cigarettes or have a beer or have a vape if we want to vape.
None of those things are going away.
What we're doing are taking the toxic forever chemicals out of these foods so that our children have a fighting chance.
Do you think his boss is going to let him take away his Diet Coke, his McDonald's, his KFC, and his pizza?
It's not happening.
I can promise you that.
And actually, we cover that ground in the course of the interview.
I want to give a real life example.
In your previous life, you worked in the insurance industry.
And part of your job is you would, when giving life insurance, you would make predictions about when somebody applied for life insurance, how long that they were going to live.
How accurate were you in your predictions?
Well, these were very accurate predictions.
It wasn't just me.
These are entire corporations whose sole duty is to process your medical records and your demographic data and determine how many more months you have left on earth.
I mean, if you think about the type of risk that an institution like a life insurance company or an annuity company or someone that's buying out your mortgage, what's called a reverse mortgage, all of these financial services instruments, Sean, are based on mortality.
And they don't care where you are on a general actuarial curve.
They want to know your specific mortality before they put $25 million or $50 million worth of risk on your life.
And so these databases have voluminous amounts of data, mainly day, date, time, location, and cause of death for hundreds of millions of lives.
And you can take this data and you can pull it back into the record and you can see what sequence of events causes people to stop living healthier, happier, longer, more fulfilling lives.
And over and over and over again, Sean, what emerged is the reason why the majority of Americans are not living healthy, happy, longer lives or for what we call modifiable risk factors.
And modifiable risk factor in big data is another just fancy term for lifestyle changes.
This is why I love this term lifestyle medicine.
You know, as Bobby Kennedy was saying on the recording before I got onto your show, he was saying that the Danish company that owns the pharmaceutical manufacturer for Zempic doesn't even allow Zempic to be used as a first line of defense for obesity, for type 2 diabetes.
They recommend first dietary and lifestyle changes.
And we've got away from that.
We've lost all faith in humanity and mankind and the body's ability to heal itself and the power that our thoughts and our spirit and our mind have over our bodies.
And I think if we just restored that faith back in ourselves, that we could make lifestyle choices that would dramatically change the trajectory of our life.
Not just add to our lifespan, how many more years we have left on earth, but add to our health span.
I mean, so many of your listeners right now, they know someone, they're connected to an elderly person in their life that maybe passed away in their 80s or 90s, but they've really died in their 70s.
They stopped living in their 70s.
And there's a difference between being alive and living.
And that difference has to do with the choices that we make every day that we're in control of that don't have to do with chemicals, synthetics, and pharmaceuticals.
They have to do with a whole food diet.
They have to do with mobility.
They have to do with finding a sense of purpose and community in your life.
And so if we would get back to these very basic God-given virtues, you would see the entire trajectory of this country change from a health perspective.
I mean, I'm just listening to you, and I want people to understand.
And then we'll probably hold you through the break and let you tell the Dana White story.
But you recommend very specific things that everybody go out and get some sunlight every day or red light therapy and everybody take, you think a cold plunge, you know, gets rid of inflammation.
And even though it's a little bit painful and hard to get used to, and I've done it, my kids do it a lot more than I do.
I've not adopted it the way you have.
And if you just, and you build up a little bit of muscle and you get your weight within a reasonable, you know, you get to a reasonable weight or a healthy weight and you just change your food.
I mean, Jilly Michaels is forcing me now to eat organic grass-fed beef instead of the beef that I was eating.
And I will tell you, it's a discernible difference.
All right.
We'll take a break.
We'll come back more with Gary Brecca on the other side.
I went to the steak and shake with RFK Jr.
We had a long discussion.
We also talked about this measles outbreak.
The media would have you think it's the biggest thing in the world.
It is not, and it has happened many times in recent years.
This is not the only one, and there's a specific reason why.
And of course, the media doesn't want to tell you the truth on that.
We'll come back.
We'll continue more, Gary, and we'll get your calls in as well.
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We continue now with Gary Brecker.
We're talking about health, wellness, fitness, nutrition.
My interview with RFK, I went with him Saturday to Steak and Shake.
It was the best burger.
I actually ended up eating two.
I had two double burgers.
I just, I usually don't eat that kind of quality, but I liked it so much, I just kept going.
And Gary is in this space.
This is his life's work and his life's passion.
And he used to make estimates for people's lifespan, these actuary tables, as they call them.
How accurate were you when you were working for the insurance industry and determine in determining people's life expectancy?
Like, I'm afraid for you to do this on me.
I don't even want to know.
You know, it's some of the most accurate science in the world, Sean.
I want to also point out it wasn't my science.
You know, this is science developed by lots of other very intelligent folks, PhDs, MDs, actuarials, data scientists.
But essentially, this data culminates in a prediction of how many more months someone has left on Earth.
But you've met me.
How many months do you think I have off the top of your head?
I'm just curious.
I don't even know if I want an answer to that question.
Well, I would be a palm reader if I could do that.
You want my biology.
You want my blood.
I need some blood work.
I need 10 years of medical records and some demographic data on you, and you feed it into the model, and it'll essentially tell you.
Well, I can tell you this, ever since I switched to the keto-friendly diet, you pick any category, and my bloods have never been better.
That is absolutely true.
You know, keto is one of those diets.
It's a low-inflammatory diet.
People don't realize that the body can run entirely on ketones, what's called beta-hydroxybutyrate, which is a fat-ketone body.
We can actually switch our fuel source from being a carbohydrate fuel source to a fat-burning fuel source.
You get what's called slow hunger.
You probably notice that you don't get ravenously hungry anymore.
You probably notice that your mood is not so tied to food.
You can go longer periods of time without eating and not getting moody, what we call hangry.
It's one of the lower inflammatory diets known to mankind.
It was actually originally pioneered for epilepsy.
Can I backtrack a little bit?
You did the full workup on Dana, and you predicted he had about 10 years and four months to live.
And you didn't give me the answer on the actuary table accuracy.
You were 90 plus percent, were you not?
And being able to predict when people would die.
And this was for insurance companies, et cetera.
And they're basing their rates on your science, your prediction, the science that you were using to come up with those numbers.
The life expectancy companies are well over 90%.
They're into the high percentile in terms of their accuracy at putting people into a category of deaths that predicts their mortality to the month, their mean mortality to the month.
And if you know how accurate insurance companies are at predicting death, just look at what happened during 2008, 2009 financial services crisis.
We had 364 banks fail.
You haven't had a single life insurance company fail.
In fact, a valid death claim in the United States of America has never failed to have been paid, not once.
So these are some of the most solvent institutions in the world, and they bet all of this risk on a single variable.
How many more months does somebody have left on earth?
So they have to be very good at predicting mortality.
I used to say if the database that I used to work in could see the light of day, it would permanently change the face of humanity.
It would upend modern medicine in a way that would be catastrophic.
Now, I think that day is coming now because of artificial intelligence, big data, and early detection.
I truly believe that big data that is now being analyzed by artificial intelligence, which can take 700 trillion independent variables and create an actionable result, is going to modernize and revolutionize medicine in a way we never, ever, ever imagined.
I believe that if you're alive in five years from today, it will be your choice whether or not you want to live to age 120.
So you tell Dana, as a matter of fact, you're supposed to have a phone call with him.
You decide to fly out to Vegas.
You meet with Dana and you give him really, this is not good news.
I don't think he, at his young age, wanted to hear that he only had 10 years to live.
And then he made dramatic lifestyle changes.
And tell us what happened and what he did and what happened.
And so, you know, clinical team, because remember, I'm not licensed to practice medicine.
I'm not a physician, but I have a clinical team behind me.
So the clinical team reviewed the lab work.
I reviewed the lifestyle changes and the demographic data, came up with their life expectancy prediction.
But what was really interesting is that Dana had a life-threatening level of triglycerides in his blood.
So normal triglyceride level, meaning the level of blood fat in your blood, should be 149 or less.
Dana's was almost 800.
This means that your blood is nearly solid at room temperature.
You have a very, very high percentage of fat in your blood.
This comes from overeating carbohydrates, believe it or not, because people that eat a very hard high carbohydrate or very high glycemic diet, things in high and refined sugars, white flour, white breads, white pasta, white potatoes, and of course all the normal offenders, cookies, pastries, pies, brownies, cupcakes, those sorts of things, they'll have very high levels of insulin in their blood.
And we know that one of the primary roles of insulin is to lower blood sugar.
A lot of people don't.
Do you want to know what my triglycerides are, by the way?
What do you think they are?
I would say that yours are less than 90.
88.
Yes.
88, and it used to be on the high side.
That's fantastic.
Until I change my diet.
Hey, you have any other questions?
I have all of my bloods in front of me.
You do?
Well, you go through them live on the air if you want.
But that's a great triglyceride level, and that's what people should shoot for.
You're almost half of the normal range.
Dana's was around 800.
So this becomes Over 800.
That is insane.
That is scary.
Just on the surface.
Imagine the conversation that I had with Dana when I told him I was going to put him on a high-fat diet to lower the fat in his blood.
And that's exactly what he did.
He did a very strict 10-week keto reset.
I wrote a diet for him right down to the grocery list, and I said, Dana, if it's not on this list, you cannot eat it.
Full stop.
And to his credit, he was militant in following that advice.
He started doing an exercise routine every morning.
We added cold plunging to his routine.
You know, we're not trying to become Eskimos.
What we're trying to do is cause the body to be shocked.
And it's called a hormetic stress, meaning you stress the body and it strengthens in response.
So, for example.
In other words, it lowers inflammation in the body, and inflammation is a big cause of disease.
It does a ton of things, Sean.
It lowers inflammation.
It causes a peripheral vasoconstriction, which drives blood into your core, your liver, your lungs, your pancreas, your kidneys, and your brain.
It releases dopamine, so it elevates your dopamine, which is the main driver of behavior, so it puts you in a great mood.
It activates something called brown fat in the body, which is our thermostat.
It's very different than white fat.
What brown fat does is it exchanges a calorie for a measure of heat.
So it actually takes calories from your body and turns them into heat.
And the final thing it does is it causes the release of something called a cold shock protein.
If you want to have some fun, just Google around about cold shock proteins.
These are magic proteins that are released from your liver that further reduce inflammation.
There's some of them that are implicated in making us more insulin sensitive, less insulin resistant, which is the hallmark of what we call metabolic syndrome, this insulin resistance pandemic that we have in the United States.
So it's really something that people don't engage in because I have a saying that aging is the aggressive pursuit of comfort.
You know, people so aggressively pursue comfort that we tell grandma not to go outside, it's too hot, not to go outside, it's too cold, just to lay down, to rest, to relax.
This is collapsing all of our normal defense mechanisms.
When you did a follow-up, after Dana did this for X period of time, you redid your evaluation on his life expectancy.
Tell us how long it took and how large an increase it was.
It grew by 35 years.
So it went 40 years.
And how long did he, and how long did he follow your program?
Still not now, but he followed it militantly for 21 weeks.
And at the end of 21 weeks, his cardiothoracic surgeon out of Cedar Sinai in Los Angeles took him off of his cardiac medication.
So on blood pressure medication, medication to make the blood thinner.
He was on a diuretic.
He was on other medication for tinnitus.
He was also on a CPAP machine, and he is on none of those medications any longer.
And even what he did, Sean, was lifestyle changes.
Those were the big, big milestones.
And so he took responsibility for his own actions.
He started thinking about and treating his body like a temple.
He stopped putting thieves into his temple, and he started putting things into his body that served him.
And it was a dramatic change over those 21 weeks.
Came off his medications, came off his CPAP machine, came off of diuretics, came off of blood pressure medication, all of which were done by his team of doctors when his lab results and his analysis said you no longer need these medications.
It's amazing.
Now, you've worked with other friends of ours, like Stephen A. Smith.
Anybody else that you publicly care to mention?
No, those that are out there in the public domain, Steve Harvey, Stephen A. Smith, Mark Wahlberg, the Kardashians for a period of time.
But, you know, I don't want to be known as the celebrity biohacker.
This is a message for the masses, Sean.
We are not as sick or diseased or as pathological as we've been led to believe.
We are nutrient deficient.
You know, we make our own GLP-1 in our gut.
It responds to nutrient density.
When we eat highly processed foods, we don't release GLP-1 and we overeat.
If you tried to overeat a ribeye steak or six avocados, you wouldn't be able to get your way through those foods because they're so nutrient-dense, they would release so much GLP-1 that you would be oversatiated.
But you could eat four boxes of Oreos.
You could eat your way through an entire tub of ice cream because these are not nutrient-dense foods.
And so when we have a highly processed diet, we're setting ourselves up for disaster.
Type 2 diabetes, metabolic syndrome, abdominal obesities, cardiac disease, atherosclerosis, arterial sclerosis.
These can be combated with what Maha is trying to shift the country to doing, which is just eating whole foods, getting back to the way things always have been.
All right, quick break more with Gary Brecker.
Our final moments with him on the other side.
We'll get to your calls.
Also, big week for world peace, both in Europe and the Middle East.
We'll check in with Congressman Abe Hamaday also in your calls coming up: 800-941-Sean as we continue.
Final hour roundup is next.
You do not want to miss it.
And stay tuned for the final hour free-for-all on the Sean Hannity Show.
Gary Bricker, and he is in the health, wellness, fitness, nutrition space.
And I will tell you, I've learned a lot listening to him and watching him now for some time.
And he really is, along with Jilliet Michaels, two of they've like become my personal health gurus.
And I'm healthier because of both of them.
Is there anything I've described my diet to you, which is mostly eat meat, fish, and eggs?
You know, I'll add an occasional vegetable in there as well, but small portions.
Does that work for you?
It works for me.
I would add maybe two things.
I would add a mineral salt, like a Baja Gold season.
I use a mineral salt.
So check.
I use a lot of, I actually ingest a lot of salt.
Perfect.
You know, salt gets vilified.
You know, if your blood pressure was so high right now that you called 911, the first thing they would do when they reached you is they would saline.
And if you were so dehydrated that you landed in the emergency room, the first thing they would give you is a saline IV.
So we've vilified salt in a way that is sad.
But mineral salts give our bodies the minerals that we need for billions of transactions.
And so they're easy, they're inexpensive.
Your listeners can buy a bag of this salt for about 15 bucks.
It'll last them five years.
And then if you really want to go next level, I would start adding hydrogen water to your routine.
You can get these hydrogen water tablets that you drop in your water in the morning and you drink back.
And that is one of the best anti-inflammatory agents you can put in the human body.
It will help you absorb your vitamins, your minerals, your amino acids.
That's what you're doing.
I have to run, but I will tell you.
And if people want to read more about what Gary is about, where can they find your website?
They can go to theultimatehuman.com.
I do a lot of teaching on sleep, on morning routines, on whole food diets, travel tips, everything that has to do with bio-optimization and longevity.
I'll tell you which hydrogen tablets that I use, which sea salt that I use.
Very inexpensive ways of completely changing your life.
Yeah.
All right, Gary Brucker, appreciate it.
Look forward to having you on Sean, the video podcast.
And we'll put this on our audio podcast on iHeart.
Thank you, my friend.
Blessed to be on anytime, Sean.
Keep doing what you're doing to me.
Always been a fan.
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