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What was nothing short of an epic historic moment at the White House today?
President Zelensky walked in and they had plans to sign a rare earth mineral deal.
He got very obnoxious with President Trump and JD Vance, and he got a beatdown.
And President Trump let the cameras roll and we got to see history in the making.
Now, some on the left, this is terrible.
This is awful.
Well, okay, what is this now devolved into?
Because you have hundreds and hundreds of thousands of dead people.
You have basically infrastructure in Ukraine has been leveled and is now rubble.
You had an opportunity for the United States to negotiate a ceasefire for you.
You had an opportunity to get money through this rare earth minerals deal, and that's now all gone.
With Zelensky walked out that door today, after acting the way he did, it ended.
And, you know, the idea that they got all of this money from Joe Biden, who did nothing at all to ever bring peace to Europe.
And the president wasn't wrong at one point observing that this could lead to World War III.
Now, the media ran about 12 minutes of it, but it went on for almost an hour.
So we're playing it in its totality so that you can hear what led up to it.
And then in the back half of this hour, we'll get to the part that everybody heard that we played at the beginning of the show, because I just think it's important that everybody hear this.
This was a historic day.
But I'm going to make a prediction.
Zelensky will be back or somebody else will be back from Ukraine.
There's my prediction.
Now back to President Trump and President Zelensky in the Oval Office.
He says you can't do any deals without compromises.
So certainly he's going to have to make some compromises, but hopefully they won't be as big as some people think you're going to have to make.
That's all.
That's all we can do.
I'm here as an arbitrator, as a mediator to a certain extent between two parties that have been very hostile.
To put it mildly, they've been very hostile.
This has been a vicious war.
It's been a vicious war.
You know, it's a very level battlefield, and those bullets go out.
And as I've said many times, we were talking about it with Pete.
Many times the only thing stopping those bullets is a human body.
And in the case we're talking about, generally young human bodies are stopping a lot of bullets.
It's dead level.
That's why it's great farmland.
It's great land.
It's great farmland.
But there's very little protection against the bullets that are being and other things that are being shot.
So all I can do is see if I can get everybody at the table and get an agreement.
I think we're going to end up with an agreement.
Otherwise, I wouldn't probably be even here today.
Mr. President, I've got two questions for you.
You think ultimately your legacy will be the peacemaker and not the president that led this country into another war and ended foreign wars?
And I've got a question.
I hope it will.
I mean, I hope I'm going to be remembered as a peacemaker.
This would be a great thing if we could do this.
I'm doing this to save lives more than anything else.
Second is to save a lot of money, but I consider that to be far less important.
So I hope I'm going to thank you, Brian, for that question.
It was a nice question.
I hope I'll be known and recognized as a peacemaker.
This would be a great thing to solve.
This is a very dangerous situation.
You know, this could lead to a third world war.
This was headed in the wrong direction.
If this election were lost, if we didn't win this election, and by the way, we won it by a lot.
That was a mandate.
We won every swing state.
We won the popular vote by millions and millions of votes.
We won everything.
The districts, if you look at the areas of red, take a look at a map.
This was a big mandate.
And this was one of the things I said, we're going to get this thing settled.
If we didn't win, I think this could have very well ended up in a third world war.
And that would not have been a good situation.
What was your second question?
My second question for President Zelensky now.
Do you ever, why don't you wear a suit?
Why don't you wear a suit?
You're at the highest level in this country's office, and you refuse to wear a suit.
Just want to see people.
Do you own a suit?
A lot of Americans have problems with you not respecting this office.
I will wear a costume after this war will finish.
Yes, maybe something.
Maybe something like yours, yes.
Maybe something better.
I don't know.
We will see.
Maybe something cheaper than...
Yeah.
Thank you.
Thank you.
Thank you, President.
Thank you, President Trump.
You said yesterday that you have, are you going to send more arms to Ukraine in case there's no peace?
Yeah, we're going to have arms to Ukraine.
Yeah, sure.
Hopefully I won't have to send very much because hopefully we're going to have it finished.
We're looking forward to finishing this quickly.
We're not looking forward to sending a lot of arms.
We're looking forward to getting the war finished so we can do other things.
But we very much appreciate the agreement because we needed what they had and we're treating, you know, our country is now treated fairly.
Biden didn't do that.
He didn't know what the hell he was doing.
This should have never happened.
This should have never started.
But, you know, sure, the answer is yes, but hopefully we won't have to send much because I'm looking forward to getting it done quickly, very quickly.
Does that mean you realize security guarantees, Mr. President?
I don't want to talk about security yet because I want to get the deal done.
You know, you fall into the same trap like everybody else.
A million times you said over and over, I want to get the deal done.
Security is so easy.
That's about 2% of the problem.
I'm not worried about security.
I'm worried about getting the deal done.
The security is the easy part.
Security is very nice.
Everybody stops shooting.
And now will Europe put people there?
I know France is going to.
I know the UK is going to.
I know other countries are going to when they happen to be right next door.
We haven't committed, but we could conceivably, you know, we have security in a different form.
We'll have workers there digging, digging, digging, taking the raw earth so that we can create a lot of great product in this country.
So in that sense, you have something.
But we haven't determined that yet.
I will say, in speaking to France and in speaking to, and they were here, as you know, last week and just the other day, they have committed to a lot of security.
I don't think you're going to need much security.
I think once this deal gets done, it's over.
Russia is not going to want to go back and nobody's going to want to go back.
When this deal ends, I really believe this deal is going to be over.
Please go ahead.
Go ahead.
Thank you.
Mr. President, thank you.
You had Mr. McCrone and Kier Starmer at the White House this past week, both of whom praised your courage and conviction to lead the pathway towards peace.
Part of that involved, though, re-engaging Russia in diplomatic relations, something that previous leaders lacked, the conviction to do so.
What gave you the moral courage and conviction to step forward and lead that?
Well, I love this guy.
Who are you with?
What American News, sir?
Well, that's why I like him.
What American News does a great job.
I like the question.
I think it's a very good question.
It's a pathway to peace.
It's a pathway to getting something solved.
And I feel that as the head of this country, I have an obligation to do that.
Plus, you know, we're very much involved.
We got involved.
It's too bad we got involved because there should have been no involvement because there should have been no war.
And there shouldn't have been October 7th.
That would have never happened.
As you know, Iran was broke.
They had no money to give to Hezbollah.
They had no money to give to Hamas.
They were stonecold broke.
And then under Biden, they became rich as hell.
They went from no money to $300 billion in a period of four years.
And they gave a lot of that money away.
And you see what happened.
And that's a real mess also that we hope to be able to solve.
But no, I appreciate your question very much.
I feel I have an obligation to try and do something to stop the death.
If I can answer, yes, I can answer.
Sorry.
Please.
Please.
And I do like your clothing very well.
You already?
I think he's a great guy, by the way.
I don't know if you two like each other, but you know, I think it's why I like this guy.
I think he stressed me.
So I have more serious things than answer on side questions.
I will answer on more serious questions if I can.
Yeah, so please.
About security guarantees and about the ceasefire.
We can't just speak about ceasefire and speak and speak.
It will not work.
Just ceasefire will not never work because I'm like the president.
I have this experience and not only me.
Ukraine, before my presidency from 2014, Putin broke 25 times.
25 times he broke his own signature.
25 times he broke and ceasefire.
But he never broke to me.
He never broke.
No, no, you were the president.
You were the president.
He never brought him in.
In 2016, you were being the president, Mr. President.
You've been the president, but he had, of course, not with you, but he had during those periods, he had conversations with our side.
And we had Normandy format, you know, the France, Germany, Ukraine, and Russia.
And he broke them 25 times.
That's why we will never accept just ceasefire.
It will not work without security guarantees.
Security guarantees, maybe President is right about this document and other, but this document is not enough.
Strong army is enough.
Because he's soldiers afraid, Putin's soldiers afraid of our soldiers when we're strong enough.
If we are not strong enough, if we are empty, if our storage is empty, we can't defend our land.
Today, you know, he knows that we have me.
All the world knows that we have meeting, yes?
Why he's using ballistic?
Putin today using ballistic on our hospitals, schools, and etc.
Ballistic.
So he knows that we are here and that President Trump really have goodwill to stop this war.
And you hear now the president.
So why he's using.
So he doesn't want to stop.
So he doesn't want.
But I hope that we will do it.
Really, we'll do it.
Security, when we speak about security guarantees, when the Europeans are ready for contingents, they need USA backstop.
If there will not be United States, we will not never have any contingents, strong contingents from the Europeans, because they don't want to divide airlines.
Connection between the United States, the main and strongest ally, and Europeans.
This is crucial.
This is important.
That's what we want to speak about very much.
This is very important.
And air defense.
So, air defense, really, we have big deficit with all these systems and we need to provide this.
We need it very much.
Otherwise, Putin will never stop and will go further and further.
He doesn't want.
He'll hate us.
You know?
It's not about me.
He hates Ukrainians.
He thinks that we are not a nation.
He thinks, and he shared this thought, I think maybe with your team also, I don't know.
But with all the Europeans in media, officially and not, he always said that there is no such country, such nation, such language, and such life like Ukrainia.
No.
He really doesn't respect all the Ukrainians and he wants to destroy us.
And you are right, Mr. President.
That's 2%.
This document, maybe other documents, it's a very good start, very good, but it will not be enough to stop this person.
Should Russia pay for Ukraine?
Mr. President, this is the rule of the United States.
This is the rule of the war.
During all the centuries, all the history, this is the rule of the war.
Who began those pay?
This is the rule.
Putin began this war.
He has to pay all money for innovation.
He has to pay.
Of course, some Russian assets, what we have in Europe, about 300 billion.
We can use them.
We can use it for innovation and buy military support from the United States also.
We can do it.
But it's not enough.
Mr. President, I know the question that you did in the trilateral summit was Putin and now.
Wait, one second.
I want to ask this question that you didn't like because I wanted to know if you want to position yourself in the middle between Russia and Ukraine or on the Ukraine side.
No, I'm in the middle.
I want to solve this thing.
I'm for both.
I want to get it solved.
And it's wonderful to speak badly about somebody else, but I want to get it solved.
If we can solve it, great.
If we can't solve it, they're going to have to find it out.
And who knows what's going to happen.
But I want to see it get solved.
There's one more question about U.S. troops in Europe.
After Russian invasion of Ukraine, your creditors have sent additional troops to Eastern Europe, including Poland, my country.
Are you committed to keeping this troops on the eastern flank of NATO in the future?
I'm very committed to Poland.
I think Poland has really stepped up and done a great job for NATO.
As you know, they paid more than they had to.
They are one of the finest groups of people I've ever known.
I'm very committed to Poland.
What about Baltimore?
Poland's in a tough neighborhood, you know.
What about Baltimore?
The Baltics.
The Baltics.
It's a tough neighborhood too.
But we're committed.
We're going to be very committed.
We're committed to NATO.
But NATO has to step up and the Europeans have to step up more than they have.
And I want to see them equalized because they are in for far less than we're in.
And they should be at least equal.
Quick break.
We'll come back more with President Trump and President Zelensky on this historic day on the other side.
And it was an opportunity lost and wasted by Zelensky.
We'll have full coverage on Hannity tonight at 9 as well.
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We spoke about this in detail with the Prime Minister, the Foreign Secretary, and others at lunch yesterday.
And I know that Secretary of Commerce Lutnik followed up in line these days.
And we're going to defend that right as it pertains to.
But it remains to be seen.
The principle that will guide us is we believe in free speech in this country and we'll fight for it for American citizens.
Mr. Harvard, on the deal, is there any other oil and gas components for the deal is it offered?
A little bit.
We'll see.
On LNG.
But we're not really looking for that so much.
We got a lot.
We have more than anybody in the world by far.
So no, we're not talking about it too much, but a little bit.
I think it affects also.
But for the most part, no.
And sir, is there any agreement from Ukraine to purchase U.S. LNG as part of the deal?
Is that on the table at all?
No, we don't need this.
I was just going to ask you about it.
You just mentioned that you guys spoke into Lavinia Putin a couple of days ago.
Just to be clear, that's a new call, not the one that you're talking about.
I've spoken to him on numerous occasions.
Okay.
How was the latest call?
What did you discuss?
How did it work?
Are you serious with that question?
It went well.
I think we're going to have a deal.
On the mineral skill, Mr. President, some of those minerals are in the east of Ukraine, not far from the front lines and in areas that Russia has occupied.
Will you direct President Putin to withdraw his forces from those areas if there's U.S. interests?
Well, we'll take a look at the time.
We have a lot of area.
It's a very big area we're talking about.
So we'll take a look.
I'll study that and I'll see.
And who would protect those minerals if they are U.S. interest?
Would that be Ukraine or United States?
They'll be protected.
The agreement will protect them.
The agreement, yeah, we're signing an agreement.
What if Russia tries to evade or order Trussia and Russia or Scott?
I just told you, I don't think that's going to happen.
And if that were going to happen, I wouldn't make a deal.
If I thought that was going to happen, I wouldn't make a deal.
You know, they ought to focus on CNN, on survival, not asking me these ridiculous questions.
Focus on surviving, because CNN's got such low ratings, I don't think they're going to survive.
Let's go.
I already mentioned Poland.
Poland was under Russian control for decades after the Second World War.
When I was a kid, I looked at the United States not only as a most powerful country, the richest country in the world, the country that has great music, great movies, great muscle cars, but also as a force for good.
And now I'm talking with my friends in Poland, and they are worried that you align yourself to Marshall.
What's your message for them?
Well, if I didn't align myself with both of them, you'd never have a deal.
You want me to say really terrible things about Putin and then say, hi, Vladimir, how are we doing on the deal?
That doesn't work that way.
I'm not aligned with Putin.
I'm not aligned with anybody.
I'm aligned with the United States of America.
And for the good of the world, I'm aligned with the world.
And I want to get this thing over with.
You see the hatred he's got for Putin.
It's very tough for me to make a deal with that kind of hate.
He's got tremendous hatred.
And I understand that, but I can tell you the other side isn't exactly in love with, you know, him either.
So it's not a question of alignment.
I'm aligned with the world.
I want to get the thing set.
I'm aligned with Europe.
I want to see if we can get this thing done.
You want me to be tough?
I could be tougher than any human being you've ever seen.
I'd be so tough.
But you're never going to get a deal that way.
So that's the way it goes.
One more question.
I would respond to this.
So, look, for four years in the United States of America, we had a president who stood up at press conferences and talked tough about Vladimir Putin, and then Putin invaded Ukraine and destroyed a significant chunk of the country.
The path to peace and the path to prosperity is maybe engaging in diplomacy.
We tried the pathway of Joe Biden of thumping our chest and pretending that the President of the United States' words mattered more than the President of the United States' actions.
What makes America a good country is America engaging in diplomacy.
That's what President Trump is doing.
Can I ask you?
Sure.
Yeah?
Yeah.
Okay.
So he occupied our parts, big parts of Ukraine, parts of East and Crimea.
So he occupied it in 2014.
So during a lot of years, I'm not speaking about Judge Biden, but those times was Obama, then President Obama, then President Trump, then President Biden, now President Trump, and God bless now, President Trump will stop him.
But during 2014, nobody stopped him.
He just occupied and took.
He killed people.
You know what the contact?
2014 is 2014.
2014.
So he was not here.
That's exactly right.
Yes, but during 2014 till 2022, what the situation is the same.
People have been dying on the contact line.
Nobody stopped him.
You know that we had conversations with him, a lot of conversations, multilateral conversation.
And we signed with him, me, like a new president.
In 2019, I signed with him the deal.
I signed with him, Macron and Merkel.
We signed ceasefire.
Ceasefire, all of them told me that he will never go.
We signed him with gas contract, gas contract.
Yes, but after that, he broke the ceasefire.
He killed our people and he didn't exchange prisoners.
We signed the exchange of prisoners, but he didn't do it.
What kind of diplomacy, GD, you are speaking about?
What do you mean?
I'm talking about the kind of diplomacy that's going to end the destruction of your country.
Mr. President, with respect, I think it's disrespectful for you to come into the Oval Office and try to litigate this in front of the American media.
Right now, you guys are going around and forcing conscripts to the front lines because you have manpower problems.
You should be thanking the president for trying to bring it into this conflict.
You have not been to Ukraine that you say what problems we have.
I have been to what happens is you bring people, you bring them on a propaganda tour, Mr. President.
Do you disagree that you've had problems bringing people in your military?
And do you think that it's respectful to come to the Oval Office of the United States of America and attack the administration that is trying to prevent the destruction of your country?
A lot of questions.
Let's start from the beginning.
Sure.
First of all, during the war, everybody has problems.
Even you, but you have nice ocean and don't feel now.
But you will feel it in the future.
God bless you.
You don't know that.
God bless you.
God bless.
Don't tell us what we're going to feel.
We're trying to solve a problem.
Don't tell us what we're going to feel.
I'm not telling you.
Because you're in no position to dictate that.
You're in no position to dictate what we're going to feel.
We're going to feel very good.
We're going to feel very good and very strong.
We'll feel influenced.
You're right now not in a very good position.
You've allowed yourself to be in a very bad position from the very beginning of the war.
You're not in a good position.
You don't have the cards right now.
With us, you start having cars.
You're playing cards.
Right now, you don't have to play cards.
You're playing cards.
You're gambling with the lives of millions of people.
You're gambling with World War III.
You're gambling with World War III.
And what you're doing is very disrespectful to the country, this country, that's back to you far more than a lot of people said they should have.
Have you said thank you once?
This entire meeting?
No, in this entire meeting that you said thank you today.
You went to Pennsylvania and campaigned for the opposition in October.
Offer some words of appreciation for the United States of America and the president who's trying to save your country.
Please, you think that if you will speak very loudly about the war you've been doing.
He's not speaking loudly.
He's not speaking loudly.
Your country is in big trouble.
Wait a minute.
No, no.
You've done a lot of talking.
Your country is in big trouble.
I know.
You're not winning.
You're not winning this.
You have a damn good chance of coming out okay because of us.
Mr. President, we are staying in our country, staying strong from the very beginning of the war.
We've been alone.
And we are thankful.
I said thank you in this cabinet.
We gave you, through this stupid president, $350 billion.
We gave you military equipment.
You won't.
And your men are brave, but they had to use our military equipment.
If you didn't have our military equipment, if you didn't have our military equipment, this war would have been over in two weeks.
In three days.
I heard it from Putin.
In three days.
This is something.
Maybe less.
In two weeks, of course, yes.
It's going to be a very hard thing to do business like this.
I'm going to tell you.
To say thank you.
I said it a little bit.
Except that there are disagreements, and let's go litigate those disagreements rather than trying to fight it out in the American media when you're wrong.
We know that you're wrong.
But you see, I think it's good for the American people to see what's going on.
I think it's very important.
That's why I kept this going so long.
You have to be thankful.
You don't have the cards.
You're buried there.
People are dying.
You're running low on soldiers.
Listen, you're running low on soldiers.
It would be a damn good thing.
And then you tell us, I don't want to ceasefire.
I don't want to ceasefire.
I want to go and I want this.
Look, if you could get a ceasefire right now, I'd tell you you take it so the bullets stop flying and your men stop getting killed.
Of course we want to stop the war.
But I'm saying you don't want to ceasefire.
I want to cease guarantee it.
Because you get a ceasefire faster than anybody.
Ask our people about ceasefire what they think.
That wasn't with me.
That wasn't with me.
That was with a guy named Biden who was not a smart person.
That was with Obama.
It was your president.
Excuse me.
That was with Obama, who gave you sheets, and I gave you javelins.
I gave you the javelins to take out all those tanks.
Obama gave you sheets.
In fact, the statement is Obama gave sheets and Trump gave javelins.
You got to be more thankful.
Because let me tell you, you don't have the cards.
With us, you have the cards.
But without us, you don't have any cards.
One more question to my new Vice President.
I'm sorry.
It's going to be a tough deal to make.
Because the attitudes have to change.
What if Russia breaks ceasefire?
I understand that it's a heated conversation, right?
What are you saying?
She's asking, what if Russia breaks the ceasefire?
What if anything?
What if a bomb drops on your head right now?
Okay, what if they broke it?
I don't know.
They broke it with Biden because Biden didn't respect him.
They didn't respect Obama.
They respect me.
Let me tell you, Putin went through a hell of a lot with me.
He went through a phony witch hunt where they used him and Russia, Russia, Russia, Russia.
You ever hear of that deal?
That was a phony Hunter Biden, Joe Biden scam.
Hillary Clinton, shifty Adam Schiff.
It was a Democrat scam.
And he had to go through that.
And he did go through it.
We didn't end up in a war.
And he went through it.
He was accused of all that stuff.
He had nothing to do with it.
It came out of Hunter Biden's bathroom.
It came out of Hunter Biden's bedroom.
It was disgusting.
And then they said, oh, oh, the laptop from hell was made by Russia.
The 51 agents.
The whole thing was a scam.
And he had to put up with that.
He was being accused of all that stuff.
All I can say is this.
He might have broken deals with Obama and Bush, and he might have broken them with Biden.
He did, maybe, maybe he didn't.
I don't know what happened, but he didn't break them with me.
He wants to make a deal.
I don't know if he can make a deal.
The problem is, I've empowered you to be a tough guy.
And I don't think you'd be a tough guy without the United States.
And your people are very brave.
But you're either going to make a deal or we're out.
And if we're out, you'll fight it out.
I don't think it's going to be pretty, but you'll fight it out.
But you don't have the cards.
But once we sign that deal, you're in a much better position.
But you're not acting at all thankful.
And that's not a nice thing.
I'll be honest, that's not a nice thing.
All right, that's going to wrap things up for today.
Hannity tonight, 9 Eastern on the Fox News channel.
We're going to play large chunks, if you missed it today, of President Zelensky and President Trump at the Oval Office.
We'll get reaction.
Also, Brett Baer is an interview that will take place with Zelensky and Victor Davis Hansen, Clay Travis, Joe Concha on the media, not understanding Trump, never wanting to understand Trump.
Miranda Devine, Jason Chaffetz, set you DBR.
9 Eastern.
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