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Severino on the Trump Cabinet - December 30th, Hour 3
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Joining me right now is the vice president of domestic policy at Heritage, and he was Trump's former director of the Office of Civil Rights.
He is Roger Severino.
How are you, Roger?
I'm doing great.
How are you?
Great.
Good to have you on with us.
Thank you for joining us today.
You know, in your role in the Office of Civil Rights, you work to ensure equal access to education, to promote educational excellence.
There's a lot of things that you were responsible for.
What would you pass on to that next director?
What would you suggest for some of the things that they really need to focus on going forward within these next four years?
Well, Trump set the tone.
He said wokeism is on the way out.
Uh it hurt our country.
It got us away from our founding principles of one nation that is colorblind under the Constitution and it was replaced with DEI.
So the Biden administration did everything it could to institutionalize DEI, not only in the federal government, but in private businesses and education, as you mentioned, and health care.
All these areas are going to take a lot of effort to undo.
Um well, it all depends on the appointees.
So with the Department of Justice Civil Rights Division, for example, Harmie Dillon has been selected by President Trump, and she's going to be fantastic in that role.
I was there as a career attorney at DOJ Civil Rights for seven years.
It's a tough job.
You gotta be savvy.
You have to be uh the wise as a serpent and and be able to deal with some tough career folks who are not gonna be open to the colorblind original equal uh protection vision of the Constitution.
There was a whole bunch of folks who refused to sign on to briefs when the previous Trump administration was around, so you might be uh on your own.
But the real real question is, okay, once you get the right people in, can we move fast?
It's gonna it we we have four years under Trump.
Um we might have four years later with with uh President Vance, but you gotta just say these four years, what can we do to undo the four years of damage of the woke policies on racial preferences in education, racial preferences in business, and to restore the Martin Luther King vision of America.
You know, Roger, that's a really good point, especially when you said they've got to move fast.
And I'm hoping that based on what we've seen so far from Trump and the the lineup that he's already put together, he's learned from his past mistakes, you gotta get in there and hit the ground running, and I think last time it just took a little too long.
I have a feeling that he may just be able to get these people, the people he has working with him in this administration to move quickly.
Do you think that is well?
Yes, I think his appointments so far have been a lot of folks that are disruptors that are willing to take the public heat, not afraid of criticism, not looking for the next career ladder and a feather in their cap.
That's exactly what you need to take on these entrenched interests.
So I already mentioned the sort of race industrial complex.
We see what happened with the Harvard case, for example, where Asians and whites were being discriminated against.
They had flat quotas, especially on Asians.
You couldn't get and there were too many Asians, they thought.
Um, and and that has to end.
And we we haven't mentioned yet the question of boys and girls sports.
That's another part manifestation of DEI in schools and in competitions and colleges, dorm rooms, lockers, showers, and that all came out of the civil rights industrial complex that was unfortunately taken away from the law and imposing new gender ideologies into areas that civil rights laws were never designed for.
And that's another really important area where the administration has to move fast it's gonna go to court, it's gonna get litigated, and it may end up all the way at the Supreme Court, and you want to get it all done within the first four years.
Yeah, absolutely.
So do you so you expect that that would be one of the greatest challenges?
How yeah I I would suspect there are many, many challenges, and if you could just go through a couple of the others that you anticipate and how how confident you are that we will be able to just clear those hurdles.
Okay, well I mentioned the office I used to leave, which is civil rights at HHS.
Right.
Trans issue, it wasn't so much about education there.
It was about forcing hospitals and doctors to perform cross-sex surgeries, On including minors and providing the puberty blockers and cross-sex hormones.
Um whether or not they thought it was good medicine, so long as they had the technical skill to do say a hysterectomy on a child, they would be required to do it if they had a uh psychologist note saying that they should do it.
These sorts of treatments have been outlawed in in several states.
We're getting up to two dozen where putting restrictions on these sort of treatments on minors because the world has realized it was a tragic mistake.
These experimental treatments are causing far more harm than good.
And there was a Supreme Court argument recently where it was abundantly clear that ACL view lawyer said, look, this notion that um there's a increased suicide risk, and if you don't do these treatments, there'll be increased suicides was false.
And that was a lie that's been told to to force doctors to do these things to force insurance companies to pay for it.
And the Biden administration went all in on these mandates, and that's another thing that would have to be reversed as soon as possible for the benefit of children.
And of course, you know, people are being forced to participate in these things when it hurts kids more than it helps.
Right.
And if they object to it too as well.
So yeah, that is so important too when we talk about today's youth and all of the things that they are up against, then we should be protecting them and and considering all ways that we can protect them.
So I I'm glad to hear all of that.
So you feel pretty confident uh in terms of where that department is going to go.
Uh you feel that if there's going to be a successor to you, having served for um President Trump in the past, that things are looking pretty good right now.
But challenging.
But challenging.
Yeah, they're looking great.
I think his nominees um they're gonna get some tough questions, some more than others, but I think they're gonna all get through the the president has the will of the people behind him.
He won uh soundly, and he has a mandate for the American people.
So he has to get his nominees through.
There is a Republican Congress.
Um that I I really don't see too much rough sailing ahead.
Again, there's gonna be some fair questions, some tough questions, but I really like RFK Jr. for HHS.
Um he's shaking things up, Maha, and make America healthy again.
It brings a new excitement and a new wrinkle, um, because now conservatives are saying, look, this is part of our tradition too, right?
We want health, you know.
Uh uh Teddy Roosevelt, he was the picture of robustness and conservation and outdoors and preservation of something we're gonna pass on our generations.
And if we're not healthy to enjoy it, there's something seriously wrong.
And RFK Juniors has shown a spotlight on that.
So the the Maha side of things, I think we're really excited about at the Heritage Foundation, which has hosted a summit with Callie Means with Dr. Redfield from CDC.
Um it's been phenomenal.
And Martin Kohldorf, it it's just brought uh this new coalition of folks that Trump has this magic.
He's able to bring working class people, he's inter well we've been willing to bring young people who are interested in health all together in this moment because they've been forgotten and and those days seem to be coming to an end.
Yeah, it's fascinating to see the teams that he's putting together and what they're going to be responsible for.
And I wonder sometimes too.
I mean, he must have really learned from those four first four years, and in some ways, I almost feel like we needed that time in between because he's really got it together, it seems like this time.
He really I mean, these are things that were unheard of before.
Um, these are areas that we've never really focused on before and as you said should have and these are our issues as well.
And I just feel like I I don't know, I get the feeling that maybe it was a good thing.
I hate to say it because we went through a lot in the last four years with the economy and the security of this nation.
But at the same time I feel like he's coming back and he's more robust and he's really got a he's got a hell of a plan.
Yeah he he's he's acting like he has nothing to lose and that's great.
That gives a tremendous freedom because he already won.
He he's got the the the win that is back and this is his moment.
This is his last term, and he's going to make the most of it.
And you're right, the four-year in between, that's four years of regrouping and planning and making sure that the lessons learned from the first time, especially vetting the right folks to be loyal that won't turn and look out for themselves when they get appointed.
You know, there was many swamp creatures that, unfortunately, you'd get in under the first term.
A lot of people cut tail and ran after January 6th.
I happened to be there all four years, and I was there during transition.
And the difference is start-up.
things are moving very quickly um this time around and getting the appointments through and a lot of the planning has been pre-done and that's really important to see because it takes especially with the regulations so many regulations under Biden that have to be undone on the environment and and ESG on on the race issues on transgenderism on the the quashing of small businesses so many things have to be undone and they the they they left a lot which means you have to hit the ground running.
I I would hope you'd have a flurry of shock and awe of executive orders drafted regulations out and within the first hundred days to get the things moving because as I mentioned earlier some of these things take years to get through all the way into litigation because the left is not going to go quietly.
They're going to say like this was our domain we're going to fight to the nail they're going to bring bring cases in select jurisdictions expect a lot of challenges in San Francisco expect them in New York but we got to go all the way to Supreme Court and there we got a pretty good conservative majority that I think will will back Trump on his deregulatory efforts.
Of course we have Doge, Vivek and Elon, right, and a whole nother new wrinkle to everything on the outside pushing to cut government spending cut the red tape, free the shackles on the American economy that is the administrative state and all the regulations that just kill initiative and we can't ask permission to do to breathe um from the federal government.
It has to be a new day and Doge, Elon, Vivek and Trump make a wonderful team.
Yeah I I agree with you and I I just think this is all so great to watch and unfold.
And you mentioned uh you know un undoing some of these regulations and one of the things I found the most fascinating I remember this uh in Trump's first term was just how quickly and how many regulations he did undo.
Unfortunately he's got to go back and back to the drawing board again and and and uh and strike some of those but he did I I was I I thought that was most impressive in fact in his first term yeah he he put in the two for one rule for every new regulation we had to undo two regulations.
So my office we put in a conscience regulation which protected people from being forced to pay for abortions.
Nuns were being required to pay for abortion insurance in California and we got rid of that under Trump.
But I also had to find two regulations to undo for that right it because normally it's a one-way ratchet where the where the where big government always seems to win and we need to change that default presumption.
It always has to be we have to find a way to shrink government, to get it off people's backs, stop running our lives.
And maybe we'll have a three-for-one rule or a four-for-one rule I've heard some talk of.
There's been talk of impoundment challenges to say, look, is it really constitutional for Congress to say that once money is appropriated, the president must spend every single penny of it?
Maybe that's up for revisiting, right?
Finding ways to say, okay, we have the status quo we've inherited.
Let's have some new thinking.
and figure out a way to say look all the guidance that was issued under Biden let's submit it to Congress so that Congress has a chance to undo it under the Congressional Review Act.
So much of our life is governed by guidance.
Just think back to COVID how many things were determined as to whether we could go you know out for lunch to a restaurant and et cetera based on guidance coming out of CDC.
Let's give Congress chance to undo the guidance permanently under the CRA, the Congressional Review Act, right?
We have to think creatively.
And under Trump, we have that opportunity now.
I agree with you.
One of the other things that you had said earlier and I wanted to touch on was that you said he's got a lot of people coming in, a lot of his appointees and nominees that aren't afraid.
They don't they're not afraid of criticism, and some of them are coming out, I think, particularly of uh Tom Homan, who, you know, uh he was retired.
He was done, but he's gotta come back.
A lot of them are coming back because they care so very much for this country, and they want that last opportunity.
And many of them believe, Roger, that this is a last opportunity.
Oh, absolutely.
You know, the the last great chance.
Um folks, Holman's amazing.
He he has he he there's nothing in it for him really.
And he's in the country.
Um, and you know, he's gonna fight the hardest fight of securing our borders.
And it it it is about time.
That was one of the the marky issues that drove it home for Trump.
He is the one that will secure our borders, and we're seeing uh just the horrific consequences, not on only what happens to wages and um the disorder.
We have somebody who was literally burned alive on a subway in New York City.
Uh somebody who was here uniquely, it seems, was the one who did it.
And uh the American people had enough and Homan would be the one to to undo it, um for love of country.
And you got Pete Heggseth, right?
He's he's would be taking a gigantic pay cut to be defense secretary.
Um, because he doesn't want to do it for the money.
He's a man of character, and you know, he he fought uh for our country and he and would be a tremendous leader uh and and he's ha has uh you know such credentials and bode well because he would be a disruptor and not be hold into the vested interests of you know, the industrial complex or the military contractors.
He's coming up with a with a fresh new vision and approach.
And if these sort of folks that President Trump is stacking his cabinet with, that gives me such tremendous hope.
I'm glad to hear that coming from you, Roger.
We've been talking to Roger Severino, and he's the vice president of domestic policy at Heritage Heritage, and he's Trump's former director of the Office of Civil Rights.
And Roger, you have uh a lot of us are feeling right now going into the new year, uh a sense of um just like expectancy, and we feel pretty good about it, and you just made us feel a whole lot better, Roger.
Thank you for all that you have done, and we appreciate you and happy new year to you.
Happy New Year.
Thank you.
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And as we move on to this new year, we're bringing with us our very new border boss, Tom Holman.
Tom, thanks for joining us today.
How are you?
Thanks for having me.
Good.
Hey, listen, so w let's start with one of the most concerning I things I think as a result of an open border that we've had, and that's the children.
And I know from you before you've said that there are at least three hundred thousand children who are essentially missing in this country.
And And and the government, these last four years, they were supposed to be tasked with follow-up work and and all the check-ins, but when we say missing, we say it because many of them are not easily located, and we've all heard the stories.
How will you help and locate these children?
And is that one of your priorities?
It is.
So secure the border, run a deportation operation, and uh leave a task force to find these children.
You know, there's over three hundred thousand children that this administration uh can't find.
They're not responding to call-ins or or or such.
So a lot of them are you know missing an action.
And so we gotta find these kids because you know, ICE has already found some in forced labor, they're gonna find many more.
Uh some of these children are gonna be enforced labor, some of these children are gonna be enforced sex trafficking, some of these children be just fine.
But we gotta find them because a lot of these children need to be saved, and that's something we're going to do.
It's gonna be difficult.
Uh I'm gonna say that up front because I don't think these sponsors were vetted proper appropriately.
Uh whistleblowers from HHS and some sponsors weren't fingerprinted, some identification used to verify who they were wasn't checked out.
So I'm sure some of these sponsors have been caught on information.
So it's going to depend how good is the information that HHS ORR got from these sponsors, and I'm being told it's probably not gonna be good.
But it's not gonna stop us, we're going to expend the resources we have to to try to save these kids because they need to be saved.
Yeah, you're right.
I mean, the situation is so bad that even the New York Times, I think it was last year, maybe it was this last year that we're leaving behind, but they did a big story on that.
They talked about children um in forced labor.
There was a a guy in Florida that had several children, and they're finding that some of these kids are working like eight to twelve hours a day, they're working at night, they're in jobs that are uh a great hazard to their well-being, and and this is going on.
And I I I remember reading a story once too about a woman who who pointed this out, was working for the government and said, I have a concern about this, and the next thing you know, she was fired.
So we know that's over, that part is over, and I think a lot more people are gonna be paying a lot more attention to these children.
Well, like you I mean, even a CHMV program where they're flying thousands in to our airports from Cuba, Nicaragua, Haiti, and Venezuela, when they first announced that program, I wrote an out and say if they if they do this, it's gonna be a uh systematic of trafficking because to come in this country from those four countries, you gotta prove you have a sponsor and can take care of you.
And I guarantee some of those sponsors are traffickers.
Oh, yeah, I'll sponsor you, but when you get here, you're gonna work for me.
And uh so we're gonna have to locate some of these people too.
And we know a lot of fraud occurred in that program because they shut it down for a while because of massive fraud in my sources.
One source from women inside the C VP told me, for instance, you had one adult male who sponsored over 1,400 people, and he's been dead for several years.
So who and how respond to these key?
Who who really sponsor them, right?
So look, we we got a lot of people to find, and we gotta find them, and and w we're going to do it, and but I I'm telling you right now, it's gonna be hard.
So that's why we're especially with the children.
We're gonna bring in some private sector uh organizations that work trafficking on their own.
We're also gonna count on the American people.
Well, we have to deputize every American citizen, especially parents, right?
Uh parents have an innate ability to recognize when something's not right with a child.
So we want people to look and and pay attention.
If you see something, say something and make a phone call, we're gonna provide a one-handed number.
And look, if even if one out of every hundred phone calls turn up that a child is being abused, that's that's one child we can save.
So we're gonna try on American people to step up for this thing too.
So that's something, you know, bringing the private sector's gonna be great.
I think every American citizen is sick over this issue.
I think they're all gonna volunteer to step in and do what they can do to help us.
I agree.
That's the ugliest part, I think, of this whole wide open border.
This is a crisis, and I am so concerned for those children, and that's one of the main reasons I'm glad that you're gonna be there.
I've got a question for you.
I read that Mexico was planning to effect an alert app for migrants.
So if they're facing arrest here in this country, um they uh I think it was uh foreign minister that said if you find yourself facing imminent arrest, you press an alert button and that sends a signal to the nearest consulate.
So what happens if the migrants reach out to the consulate, Tom?
I don't under what what's this all about?
Well, I don't really care if we call the council's now.
So, you know, look when we remove people, we usually work with councils anyways to make sure that the person is actually a citizen in that country and we we make flight arrangements and remove arrangements, so we reach out to the council all the time.
So if they reach out to council, fine, it's not gonna change your case, we're gonna remove them.
It might even help us.
So I don't really know what I haven't seen what they're doing, haven't talked to them down there, but they can reach out to counselors all they want.
It's not gonna stop their intimate removal, and maybe even help.
What web seek I don't really know quite what that app is.
I've I've asked a few people to find out for me.
So I'll save my opinion so I know it's actually in the app, but the bottom line is if you're in a country illegal, you got a problem.
And when we're looking for you, look what I've said in clear from day one.
They're priority out of the gate.
Day one.
Public safety threats and national security threats.
And we got a lot of them.
We get we know at least over 700,000 illegal animals with criminal convictions walking the street.
So we'll be visiting them for a while, then we're gonna look at fugitives.
So we're gonna prioritize what we do.
We're gonna take the worst first because the worst are the biggest dangers to this country in our communities.
It only makes sense we take them first.
So well, we'll see the Mexican, we'll see what the app does, but it's not I'm not sweating it.
How hard is it going to be to take out the worst first, like targeting the gang members, for example?
Well, look, it's gonna be a dangerous job, right?
What's going to make it more dangerous and more and less efficient is these sanctuary cities that are going to try to block us and you know in in prevent us from doing this.
Which I wake up every day just shocked that any elected mayor, any elected governor really doesn't want public safety threats removed from their communities, especially if you're illegally.
I mean, there's no more responsibilities for protection in the communities.
So look, we can ask the bad guy in a safety and security of a jail, which is safe for the officers, safe for the alien, safe for the community.
But in these sanctuary cities want to keep releasing the community that endangers the community clearly doesn't want a public safety threat reached back into the community.
So it is gonna be dangerous on the community, especially the internet community, that's where most live.
So it's gonna make the immigrant community unsafe.
It's gonna make our officers uh putting them extra extreme risk, and it's gonna be unsafe for the enemy.
So I would think any repr any elected representative, you are you are you know, you're responsible to to the to the citizens of your jurisdiction to your constituency.
The right thing to do is work with us, especially on public safety threats.
We don't want you to be immigration officers.
We want you to be cops working with cops.
Help us take public safety threats out of the community, make them safer.
And uh, but they don't want to help, they get the hell out of the way if we were coming.
But it's gonna make them more dangerous for the officers.
So I'll be going to bed every night hoping and praying that every member of ICE goes home to the family at the end of the night and and and border patrol too.
When we start taking the cartels out of business, uh cross-border crimes going to increase, and I'm I'll be worried about every bullet chill like now down the line.
So I hope American people keep the ice and border to in and your prayers, because uh it's uh you know, it's it's it's it's a hard, dangerous job and these sanctuary jurisdictions are just making it more dangerous.
That's a good point, and that's something for all of us to keep in mind then.
You know, I I did hear you talking recently somewhere about how things are gonna be better to your point right now in New York City very quickly once the process begins.
And it's not, you know, uh and we all know we're not stupid out here.
We know, and that's why Trump won.
It's not just New York City, it's cities all throughout this country that are going to become very much safer as a result of the process.
Well, I think illegal crime would certainly go down.
I think once we secure the border, fentanyl deaths should decrease.
Uh sex trafficking would decrease since we can s secure the border, we rest more rather than having over two million ganaways, we'll be arresting most everybody because the border chose beyond the border, 100% uh vigilant on the border rather than making sandwiches, changing diapers.
So we'll have the agents back on the line.
One thing I want to mention real quick, I see a lot of hit pieces recently about Tom Holman talking about family detention, how cruel that is.
Yes.
I want to remind you the listeners.
Family detention is the opposite of family separation.
But I've seen MSMACNOC, well, they it's all about family uh detention.
Also they start talking about separation.
Family detention doesn't have anything to do with family separation.
Families detention keeps family together.
And why am I even talking about maybe bringing it back?
It's an option.
Why?
Because it's gonna give us a few days to investigate that family, do some DNA tests and make sure they're actually family.
The Biden Minister stopped DNA testing.
We know many of these families weren't even families.
These children were trafficked by an unrelated adult who played a cartel to rent a child.
We know that we we have many of those investigations at us.
We know cartels are renting children.
So this is about saving children.
This is about saving children from sex trafficking.
This is about making sure our family is a family before we release them into the United States with an adult male that they're not related to who may abuse them.
So when people say, well, well, Homan was family attention, how cruel.
No, Homer's trying to save some lives.
Homer is trying to save some children from sex trafficking and forced labor trafficking.
If they want to claim to be a family, all I'm asking for, let's take a few days to make sure they're a family.
Let's do some uh cheek swabs and make sure they're actually related.
This is about protecting children.
If that's cruel, then I'll be cruel.
No, what's cruel is not doing that.
My God, Tom.
My God.
Yeah, I agree with you.
This is you know, I did they the media's already sending out uh uh uh they're lying about what we're talking about, they're they're misrepresenting what I've been saying on the media.
And we know it's coming.
We know it's coming.
Look, they they they do not want us to close this border down.
They don't they don't want us to force immigration law.
But you know, and they and they say what we're doing is cruel.
What's cruel is opening the border up where over ten million people came to our border when these families sold everything they had to give it to the criminal cartels to come to the country, and and this administration knows nine out of ten of them will get ordered removal.
You you you brought in the most vulnerable people in the world, spending every penny they've ever had to make this dangerous journey, knowing they're gonna end up with an order deportation.
That's cruel.
When you have a half a million children being trafficked in this country on under this administration, that's cruel.
When you can't find over three hundred thousand of them, that's cruel.
When we have a record number of illegal aliens dying crossing that border, historic number, almost four thousand that died crossing that border, that's cruel.
When you got a six hundred percent increase in sex trafficking, that's cruel.
When you got a quarter million American time for fentanyl coming across the open border, that's cruel.
So you want to talk about cruel, you need to look in the mirror.
What we're trying to do is secure the border because secure borders saved lives.
Just not of illegal aliens, it saves lives of American citizens.
That's what we're going to do without apology.
Call it what you want.
That's coming, it's going to happen.
Wow.
Well said.
And one of the things uh about you, Tom, is that you really don't care what they say about you as long as you have that opportunity to get the job done.
And you didn't have to come back.
But I know in your heart that you believe this is something that you absolutely had to do.
Absolutely.
I'm taking a huge pay cut coming back, but I'm okay with it.
You can't say no to the president.
I've been complaining about this border for four years.
When President Trump called me one day and said, "Okay, you want to come back and fix How do you say no?
So yeah, I'm gonna come back and fix it.
And I and frankly, you know, people and people say a lot of bad things about me.
I got a security detail right now because of all the death threats.
It's unfortunate you make death turns against me and my family.
So it's like those who enforce law, all of a sudden we're the bad guys and those who break all the victims.
I don't care what people think about me, all these negative hit peas.
As a matter of fact, you know, if I get to live in the mind tractory, that's kind of cool.
Uh I just wish my family wasn't put in danger.
But bottom line is not going to shut me out.
I'm not going away.
I'm gonna do this job.
Say what you want about me.
You can't cancel me, so I don't care.
But when they cancel you is when they write a hit piece on you, then you can't kind of go and go in the darkness, you don't want to talk to me more, you don't want more hit pieces.
No.
When I see read a hit piece, you just pour gas on my inner fire.
It just bars me up.
So write what you want, say what you want.
Tom Holman's not going away.
I'm gonna get this done.
This is why we love you so much, Tom Holman.
We really do.
We appreciate you.
Our prayers for you, your family, for all of those supporting your efforts on the border.
We pray for your safety.
And and Tom, I just wish you a happy new year, and thank you.
Thank you for being where you are and doing what you're doing.
God bless you.
Keep up what you don't.
We need to educate American people and you're one form of education.
Thank you.
Thank you.
Take care.
All right, Tom Holman, our new border boss.
Keep him in your prayers, people, their families, all of these people, they are at risk.
They really are.
We're so blessed to have them.
We really are.
We'll be back with more of the Sean Hannity show.
It's been a wonderful time with you today, filling in for Sean Hannity.
My name is Rose.
Check me out, Rose Unplugged, and she is called by him.
You know, I was sitting here thinking about Tom Homan and so many others who are so brave and so committed And so love this country.
And we were so excited, you know, that we've got a new thing happening in 2025, particularly where the country is concerned, right?
And we forget too that in that excitement, there's also risk.
And we have men and women who are willing to take those risks for us.
That moves me.
It really does.
They love you, they love this country more than they fear the risk.
And I would just encourage you as we go into this new year to keep these people in your prayers and their family members.
It's unfortunate that we live in a society where there are some who will actually threaten the family members of those who are serving.
Keep them in your prayers.
And I would encourage you to step out in faith this 2025.
Ask God what He's got for you, and then get out there and do it.
I love you guys.
I love spending time with you.
God bless you and a very happy new year to you.
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