Dec. 28, 2024 - Sean Hannity Show
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| All right. | |
| This is Jeffrey Lord filling in for our friend Sean Hannity and our phone number here is 800 941 7326 or 800 941 Sean. | |
| So let's uh let's spend a little time on the phones here. | |
| And uh what I see up here is uh our friend Claire from Florida. | |
| And uh Claire, why don't you tell us a little bit about why you called. | |
| Okay, well I'm a lifetime Republican, and I couldn't rattle off all the names to prove that. | |
| But so I am a Republican. | |
| However, I think that Biden pardoning Hunter was the right thing to do as a father. | |
| That's his responsibility. | |
| If Biden had not pardoned Hunter, he would be castigated about it for the rest of his life. | |
| Now I hope people will call in and discuss that with you, but that's my opinion. | |
| I'm not improv I don't approve of Biden, but I approve of pardoning his son because he is the father. | |
| Well, you know, you might it it might surprise you, Claire, but I I tend to agree with you on that. | |
| I I just think that uh I I think there's so much more and I I think we will find out uh as we move away from the Biden era, uh the memoirs will come out and investigative reports will come out. | |
| I think we will learn a lot that is not very favorable to the Biden family or as they've been uh mimicked the Biden crime family. | |
| I think that is important to get to. | |
| But I think in this situation and remembering in terms of family history, uh I was uh not to date myself, but I was in college when Joe Biden was elected to the United States Senate. | |
| He was twenty-nine years old, soon to turn the required age of thirty. | |
| And uh this to be elected a United States Senator was a big deal. | |
| And within a matter of weeks after that, uh there was uh uh a car accident that killed his wife and little girl and I think injured uh Hunter and brother Bo. | |
| And I suspect, and then then of course a number of years later, Bo dra uh uh passes away from cancer. | |
| Uh I think if you're the father in that situation, that's enough. | |
| And y you wanted Hunter has, I think unquestionably made a mess of things. | |
| That's his problem. | |
| He'll have to f he'll have the rest of his life to get his act in gear. | |
| But uh I do think that uh uh I don't think that Joe Biden could have done or would have done anything else. | |
| And so, you know, uh on we go. | |
| And I and I think just in terms of the Bidens in general, uh I think now the time is here to move on, to move forward. | |
| And uh having studied presidents enough uh from you know George Washington on, and having uh worked for a president, I worked for President Reagan. | |
| Um what happens is the minute their successor is elected, it's kind it sounds kind of harsh, but wow. | |
| Uh people just turn their attention from that person who had been president and turn it to who the new guy is. | |
| So I think that process is already started. | |
| I think you saw it at the international level, as I was saying earlier when President Trump uh President elect Trump went to France to celebrate the Notre Dame Source. | |
| So uh okay, Claire. | |
| Well, Claire, thank you very much. | |
| I think that that was a good thing to to get uh cleared up here. | |
| I I need to turn now, want to turn now to my old friend Matt Schlapp of the C American Conservative Union. | |
| Hello there, Matthew, how are you? | |
| Hey Jeffrey Lord, how are you? | |
| Merry Christmas. | |
| Merry Christmas, happy new year, happy Hanukkah, and all the rest. | |
| Uh yeah, I think it's great. | |
| Yes, it is indeed. | |
| It is indeed. | |
| And I was sort of wondering w what's your take now that you know 2024 is behind us, 2025 is beginning to take shape. | |
| Um Matt, for those who are unaware, is also the head along with wife uh mercy. | |
| Uh and and by the way, Matt, something some little bird told me that there was something going on with Mrs. Schlap today. | |
| I I don't know what that might be. | |
| She got a little bit older today, just a little bit. | |
| Uh oh. | |
| That means she's finally eighteen. | |
| Well, that's that's good. | |
| That's good. | |
| Well, I I think that um you know CPAC and and the conservative union and and all this, we we have our work cut out for us, and it's going to be very interesting to see as we move into 2025 and presumably the next four years. | |
| What's your take on what lies ahead for us? | |
| Well, first of all, I have to say uh Ded of uh uh thanks and gratitude to you, Jeffrey, because you saw what was going on in the country, you were a Reagan guy, I was a Bush guy, and uh you saw what was going on with Donald Trump and you were with him early, you stuck by him. | |
| I'm very proud of CPAC. | |
| No matter what happened, uh we stuck by Trump. | |
| We put him on our stage in Orlando, Florida, when they closed us down in Washington, DC. | |
| Yes. | |
| And uh and we put Donald Trump on the stage about fifty days after January sixth, and you know, caused a controversy at the board. | |
| Uh some of our people said you can't invite Donald Trump after J 6, and I said, No way, he's gonna be on our stage, he's our president. | |
| Um, and uh and you guys have J6 all wrong, and so now we're to today, after all of that, and uh I all I can say is I don't know if there's a more important year than two thousand twenty-five and probably I don't know, the last eighty years. | |
| This is a big one. | |
| Yes, I think that's absolutely right. | |
| I think it's absolutely right. | |
| There's all kinds of things that can happen here, and I'm led to believe that Mercedes is on the line. | |
| Is that true? | |
| Do we have Mercy? | |
| Oh, I they're telling me in the other end that she just vanished. | |
| Don't you love 21st century technology, Matt? | |
| Here's my take on this year. | |
| Is that you um we've got this first year of her presidency is awfully important, it's critical. | |
| We have these small majorities in the House and Senate. | |
| And uh and for those of us who are insiders and know too much, it's easy to get discouraged. | |
| But uh for everyone else who's just rooting Trump on, um uh I think the key is is we gotta keep these congressional Republicans, these Senate Republicans on the Trump train. | |
| They gotta get a plan on this budget. | |
| I I read lots of theories and talk to a lot of people that have uh different theories about what they can do on the budget. | |
| Um, but I just want them to get on the same page on the budget between Speaker Johnson and John Soon uh and the president and his team. | |
| And and my my advice to them would be keep it simple, stupid. | |
| Not that any of them are stupid, but you know, uh Republicans have a hard time sticking together. | |
| And uh in this case, I think if they try for one budget resolution, get the taxes in there, get all the border stuff you need in there, add a few other policies that we all are on board. | |
| Get one done and uh don't be too worried about how fast you do it, and then let's see how much time we have left on the clock to do a second one. | |
| Yeah, yeah, I think you're right. | |
| You know, one of the things that that I remember vividly when I was starting out my career in Washington, I was working for Congressman Bud Schuster from Pennsylvania. | |
| Oh yeah, legendary. | |
| Legendary indeed. | |
| And uh while he was particularly famous for serving as later as chair of the House Transp Public Works and Transportation Committee, as it was then called, he also served on the House Budget Committee. | |
| And as his legislative uh director, and I I was assigned to uh, you know, do the staff work and go to all these budget committee meetings and read the federal budget, which as you know was thousands of pages and all of this kind of thing. | |
| Yeah, but you could do it back then. | |
| I don't think you could today. | |
| Yeah, I think that's I think that's about right. | |
| Well, one of the things that I learned which sort of took me aback, and I have remembered this always, is it wasn't just Liberal Democrats on the committee who were putting stuff in this budget, it was Republicans. | |
| And I thought, oh my goodness, what you know what what is going on here? | |
| And uh, you know, all these years later, I can see why so many Americans who sort of caught on to how this works are making complaints about the so-called uniparty and that kind of thing. | |
| What are your thoughts on that? | |
| Yeah, I will tell you the birthday girl has joined us. | |
| Uh uh, Mercy is here. | |
| And I'll give you a quick answer because I know you're gonna want to talk to her, but my view is this, which is it's uh it's a pox on both their houses. | |
| Um they are both parties, both major parties are responsible for outrageous uh decision making around the budget. | |
| Most Republican presidents haven't helped the matter. | |
| I mean, the problem is when Reagan was president and we actually had budget fights, uh closed down the government or the government was closed, I should say, and then Duke Gingrich tried to do the same thing when we got the majority in the House for the first time in 40 or whatever years it was, and the um and the uh and the Republicans overcorrected. | |
| They thought, oh my god, we lost the shutdown fight with Bill Clinton, we'll never win a budget fight again. | |
| We might as well just join him on the spending front with our Republican pork joining the Democratic pork, and it's resulted in a very precarious financial situation for America, which means the free world is in a very precarious position, and I really applaud those Republicans who are saying, Look, enough is enough. | |
| We've got to kind of rein in the spending, and it's not just these CRs, this is like a little fraction of the budget, you know. | |
| When you were working on the Hill, that was a big part of the budget. | |
| Now it's a tiny little part, because we put almost all the government on autopilot with the mandatory spending, which is kind of a made up title, and we've got to get into all that spending. | |
| Um, you know, I don't know if President Trump wants this to be a focus of his, but the fact is we don't have much time left. | |
| Republicans better starting like the Reagan Republicans. | |
| Marcy, what are your thoughts on on where on where President Trump goes with all of this uh that we're we're coming along with? | |
| Yeah, no, uh look, I think it's a very important for President Trump to remain the top uh how can I say uh spokesperson leader of talking about these budget fights. | |
| I think that, you know, of course Elon and Vivek have an important role. | |
| They're uh leading the Doge efforts, uh, but you know, they really have never worked in Washington a day. | |
| And I think it's important for them to understand that you they will have to work closely with the Office of Management and Budget and uh and figure out, you know, yes, strip out, take out all these DEI initiatives throughout all of the government, figure out where this all this misspending is happening. | |
| I mean, you're talking about that the Pentagon couldn't even uh, you know, they failed their audits seven times. | |
| You know, there there needs to be major fixes in the government. | |
| With that being said, uh, you know, I do think that the but the that the American people are expecting tax cuts. | |
| They're expecting tax cuts quickly. | |
| And I think that has to be the top priority in addition to securing the border and making sure that if they move forward with some this sort of deportation plan, that it's not gonna become into a you know public re relations fiasco, but really hone in on these criminal aliens. | |
| So I think that there that is where the top priority has to be. | |
| I do think that, you know, I've been watching uh, you know, X yesterday and today, and I see Vivek commenting about you know the immigration visas and and Elon as well, and I'm like, dude, guys, stay out of immigration, stay in your lane, focus on cutting the government, | |
| don't get off message because at the end of the day it is President Trump, it is President Trump's agenda, and we all just have to we have to support him to make sure uh that his agenda gets accomplished, and he's gonna have a very short window because as you know this, Jeffrey, that the your political capital, you start losing it after a year or two. | |
| Right. | |
| Uh and and he's gotta move quickly. | |
| Uh just as a matter of curiosity, are Elon and Vivek uh are are they coming? | |
| Have they expressed any interest in coming to CPAC? | |
| They have. | |
| And uh V Vake has been uh uh, you know, he's come very regularly last uh couple CPACs. | |
| Yeah. | |
| Someone we've actually worked really closely with. | |
| And uh I don't have a relationship with Elon Musk, other than Mercy and I had a wonderful conversation with him in Mar-a-Lago a few weeks ago when we had an event down there, and we've talked with some of his people and they say he wants to come and we'd of course uh love to have him. | |
| But you know, our focus is two things. | |
| Number one, what's the best way to use CPAC to push the Trump agenda? | |
| And we'll be right in the middle of the first one hundred days when CPAC starts in February in Washington, DC. | |
| So like it's almost like the midterms, right? | |
| Like how are we doing so far? | |
| How many cabinet secretaries uh have been confirmed? | |
| Where are we on this agenda? | |
| How many of these day one executive orders are being fought out in courtrooms, which I think 100% will, sadly. | |
| So I think we have to use CPAC to leverage um uh all the people around the country who are so excited that Trump won. | |
| But the second thing CPAC has to do, Jeffrey, is what it's done really well in the last few years. | |
| We've broadened this effort. | |
| People say big ten, I don't really love that analogy, but we've we've expanded this coalition. | |
| We were the first people to invite Tulsa Gabbard. | |
| We were the first people to invite Donald Trump. | |
| We were the first people um to invite Robert F. Kennedy Jr. | |
| Like when these new voices popped up on one issue area, we didn't say oh you can't cut join our club because you don't agree with us on everything. | |
| We said hey why don't you come over to our club we'd like to hear your thoughts and it's a great ride as we expand this coalition it's less about parties now. | |
| Yeah I think that's right. | |
| And I think uh right we're alas we're we're running out of time here but yeah I do think that the parties have uh switched positions if you will I think the Republican Party is the party of working class uh Americans working Americans and I think that's a good thing it's a good thing. | |
| I think this started with President Reagan and President Trump is taking it to the max. | |
| Well, Matt and Mercy, thank you very much. | |
| I will make plans to see you at CPAC. | |
| And happy birthday there to the missus. | |
| Merry Christmas. | |
| Merry Christmas and Happy New Year. | |
| Right. | |
| OK, thank you very much. | |
| And we'll be back. | |
| This is Jeffrey Lord in for Sean Hannity. | |
| And if you want to call in, our number is 800-941-7326. | |
| All right. | |
| Welcome back. | |
| This is Jeffrey Lord filling in for our friend Sean Hannity, our number here is 800 9417326 and let's take a call from John in North Carolina Hey Jeffrey how you doing I'm doing great and you happy new year you know and all the rest. | |
| Yes, sir. | |
| I'm enjoying the time off. | |
| My comment is I've been following politics and, you know, listening to talk radio for many, many, many years. | |
| And about 15 years ago, I started I'm an independent voter. | |
| I'm not a member of any party, but I do vote. | |
| I use common sense. | |
| I back Trump. | |
| And what I don't understand is about 15 years ago, I looked at everything and I said, you know what? | |
| The behavior of these Democrats, they're just like organized crime and I felt and it it's not meant to be an attack it's not meant to you know be name calling except it it it aptly identifies what we're up against. | |
| And if you look at the traits of organized crime, such as tax evasion, which Hunter Biden does, and people are on the take, we're always finding, and I'm not saying Republicans or, you know, that avoid any of this, but the con men, you know, the term con men comes from confidence men, the people that can go out and fool you. | |
| So what I'm saying here is I think the media commentators that are trying to be as truthful as they can really is like when Trump got the term fake news to stick, I think we should try to get the term organized crime to stick whenever we're talking about either deep state. | |
| Well, I'll tell you, you know, I don't know whether the organized crime thing will fit or not, but I think you're on to something. | |
| And I was thinking about this, and I'm of an age that I remember vividly as a child. | |
| My parents were very active in Republican politics in Massachusetts, so they were always very interested in what was going on. | |
| And together we watched in January of 1961, I was in the fourth grade, hello, President Kennedy being sworn in and giving his inaugural address, which was very memorable, the phrase that stuck out. | |
| ask not what you can do what your country can do for you ask what you can do for your country. | |
| And I know without question and I was one of them it inspired young people to get into politics. | |
| Now that said I think that the problem eventually became that young people who were doing this that's all they were going to do. | |
| And And it was a limited experience looking back. | |
| They didn't they didn't say, well I'm gonna go build a business or I'm gonna do this or I'm gonna do that that has nothing to do with politics. | |
| They just stuck with politics all the time. | |
| And this is what encouraged I think a lot of uh you know or a fair share of elected officials to do it's just you know that's all they do all the time and I think over time that that is not a good situation here for them or for the country. | |
| I think that they get so wrapped up in this I think Joe Biden, frankly, is a perfect example of this. | |
| He was 29 years old when he was elected to the United States Senate and makes what what uh I don't know whether there's a hundred and fifty or two hundred thousand dollars something as a United States Senator How in the world does he for afford multimillion dollar houses and all of this kind of thing. | |
| Well he affords it because he uh so go the allegations uh he was the big guy peddling uh you know political influence in return for money in Ukraine and these other places I don't think that Joe Biden is alone. | |
| He he may be uh a standalone in terms of the uh size and the amount and the offices he held but I'm willing to bet you could find people in public office alas unfortunately at much lower levels of government uh local or state who who were doing some version of the same thing and that's where I think this has gotten off the rails here. | |
| With that said you have to come from an honest foundation. | |
| I've worked for major corporations. | |
| I've lived overseas in the Middle East I've worked with high I wasn't I was not in the military, but I worked on big dollar uh Middle Eastern in uh private co corporations and I saw I would dealt I dealt directly with corporate officers that were less than honest. | |
| They were lying and I knew it. | |
| I couldn't say anything at the time because it I didn't have the power but the corruption and people's people are too dishonest. | |
| Everybody's got to look into the soul mayor and you know make sure that you're doing the right thing. | |
| Well you have to be raised by parents who who are raising you with a sense of integrity I think that's that's number one and sometimes I think uh that that sort of falls down and and uh that is definitely not a good thing. | |
| So well John thank you very much for calling let uh let me see do we have some time here I think we're going to m uh move on to uh Josh in Minnesota welcome to Sean Hannity's show. | |
| My cough thanks for taking my call absolutely absolutely so what do you want to talk about Josh? | |
| Well first I was going to talk about Biden but then you start talking about the shift in the in the political parties and you know I grew up in Northwest Minnesota my grandmother was a DFL delegate but was also a strong believer in pro-life. | |
| Wow and my grand my grandfather was a bricklayer president of the bricklayers union. | |
| And I grew up in this area you know we were strong Democrats and our state representative was a Democrat and and we had called Peterson from this area going to Washington and it all shifted about I don't remember exactly what time but about you know the Obama administration those representatives kind of retired and since then this whole area is voted Republican. | |
| And you know we send Michelle Fish back to Washington and we've got a Republican local rep and it's just you know we grew up with those values that you know I'm a veteran and you grew up with loving your country and just kind of you know middle moderate conservative type values and what was once you know what my grandmother would have supported as a DFL delegate would have been more Republican views now. | |
| Yeah and and as a fifty year old white male, I almost feel like a minority now, and I'm really scared for my kids the way, you know, the state of the political parties in the country have taken over, you know. | |
| Well, I noticed uh it says here that you were you were appalled that Biden was making false comments on his way out of office. | |
| And yeah, saying that uh you know he wholeheartedly believes he left the country in a better state took over is just absurd. | |
| Well, I'll tell you something about uh President Biden. | |
| I I personally have long since come to the belief that he's just kind of sloppy about what he does and and boasting when he when he does that. | |
| And I had a personal experience in it long ago. | |
| When I was a kid, a teenager, I was a big Bobby Kennedy fan. | |
| This would be the father of the current uh RFK Jr. | |
| And uh when he died, it was tragedy. | |
| They put out these long playing records. | |
| I was in high school. | |
| I bought the records and memorized his speeches. | |
| Now that's 1968. | |
| In 19 uh September of 1987, I was working in the White House for President Reagan as a political director, and Joe Biden had just finished chairing the sort of disgraceful Robert Bork hearings for the Supreme Court, really uh not doing a good job of it. | |
| Uh, but he was also running for president and he got caught by Governor Michael Dukakis, his Democrat opponent, plagiarizing from the British Labor Party leader, his name was Neil Kinnock. | |
| And the campaign said, Oh, it was a mistake or whatever, he didn't do this, that that kind of thing. | |
| Well, I knew differently, and the reason was that back in February of that year, we'd had a big snowstorm in Washington, and Washington is terrible in snowstorms. | |
| Everything shuts down. | |
| I live relatively nearby, so I walked to my office in the White House, totally alone in there, nothing going on, the phone isn't ringing. | |
| So I thought, well, I'll see what's on C-SPAN, since you know, I I can't do anything. | |
| And there was Joe Biden giving a speech to the California Democratic Convention, and I thought, well, that's interesting. | |
| He's supposed to be a good speaker. | |
| I'll listen. | |
| I listened. | |
| And what did I find? | |
| I was getting to the end of his sentences before he was. | |
| And why was that? | |
| Because he was plagiarizing from Robert Kennedy. | |
| And I I, you know, had the presence of mind to pick up, I called uh a reporter at the New York Times, Maureen Dowd by name, and uh brought over my uh records, long-playing records to the uh New York Times, and within a matter of days there was a front page story about questions being raised by his speeches and quoted among others my much younger self and all this kind of thing. | |
| But I I just I was I was amazed. | |
| I thought, how can anybody think I mean Robert F. Kennedy Sr. was one of the most famous people on the planet uh at that point, now now deceased twenty years by by the time this incident happened. | |
| But still in all, uh, you know, I'm here in New York and uh I I go Bass Science for the RFK Bridge. | |
| Uh the Justice Department in Washington is named after Bobby Kennedy. | |
| So to think that you could sort of, you know, take something from him and nobody would notice, I thought was just, you know, wow. | |
| Yeah. | |
| But typical, I think, you know, it just sloppy in terms of how this uh how he sort of operates here, and I think I think we're paying a price, Afghanistan, that kind of thing. | |
| So I grew up listening to Paul Harvey on the radio. | |
| You know. | |
| Yeah. | |
| And you know, you know, E those don't have shows like that anymore. | |
| And you know, I've got family members that are far right, and I got family members that are far. | |
| I just kind of keep my mouth shut, you know. | |
| I believe in I believe in Trump's policies, but sometimes I wish he'd just stay off Twitter. | |
| Well, you know, that's a modern thing, and I don't think that's ever going to go away, whether it's Trump or anybody else. | |
| I think that uh you know, this is this is ingrained. | |
| You know, I I remember reading historically that I think it was 1920 that there was the first radio broadcast of a national political convention because radio was itself brand new. | |
| And uh, you know, over time uh this the technology changes, and then we got to television and you had that famous 1960 television debate with Kennedy and Nixon and uh the question became how to use makeup and all of this kind of thing because Kennedy took the makeup Nixon didn't and and people thought that that those who watched on television thought Nixon lost and those who listened to it on the radio thought he won. | |
| But my point is the technology changes and we are in the 21st century so buckle in is more or less what we've got to do here. | |
| How we long for the old days. | |
| So, yeah, yeah, things were much simpler in those days. | |
| And now, and I always am sort of, you know, simultaneously horrified and amused. | |
| You see somebody who commits a crime and they have no recognition that there are cameras all over the place. | |
| Like this nitwit who killed the health care executive. | |
| So, well, Josh, thank you very much for calling. | |
| And this is Jeffrey Lord filling in for Sean Hannity. | |
| uh give us a call at 800 nine four one seven three two six and we'll be back. | |
| All right this is Jeffrey Lord in for our friend Sean Hannity and uh we are going to uh be reached here at 800 nine four one seven three two six and let's uh go to Greg in Iowa who wants to talk a little bit more about Hunter. | |
| Good afternoon sir. | |
| Good afternoon So um my point is with Hunter and and I know it's a a terrible deal you know especially for his dad even though it's you know it's Joe Biden but if you love your child, discipline if you your child don't and you know now that he's been given a free pass, you know what what's what's it going to be like for the next ten years? | |
| I th I think we all know what the outcome's gonna be. | |
| You know he's gonna he's gonna end up in the in the gutter again. | |
| And there'll probably be a you know an unfortunate outcome that comes along with that. | |
| But all that being said, Biden had to pardon him to take all the legal troubles off the plate because if Hunter went to court Biden was going to end up in court. | |
| Well I think that's I think that's a considerable situation there. | |
| I think you're you're absolutely right that uh I mean uh the the infamous reference to the big guy ten percent for the big guy who might that be and I do think that they were uh as as long as Hunter was out there that they were in a position to find themselves very much in trouble here. | |
| And so I think he's done what he's done to you know in part because it's Hunter I I don't have any doubt about this. | |
| And you're you're right. | |
| He is he's he's walked away with excuses his whole life and uh you know the question is now he what is he 50 years old something like that? |
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