Luis Elizondo, is the Former Head of the Pentagon program responsible for the investigation of UFOs—now known as Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena (UAP)—he is also the author of IMMINENT: Inside the Pentagon’s Hunt for UFOs, joins to discuss the conversations about the drones we are seeing every night in the sky. Is it aliens? Foreign drones? Or American drones looking for radioactive material? See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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Sean, if you want to be a part of the program, the mystery drone issue continues.
And a lot of the speculation you have to admit comes directly from the federal government because they keep giving different answers or they keep saying they don't have answers and then they do have an answer and then it's well we think they're being operated legally.
I mean, this is insane.
John Kirby literally said the drones, we're not talking about your hobbyist drone here, the size of a bus flying at low altitudes with loud engine noises that sound like a Harley-Davidson.
And they're saying these drones are being operated in a lawful and legal way.
Here's John Kirby.
He thinks he's being cute.
The drones are being operated in a lawful and legal way.
By who, John?
Who's operating them?
Anyway, listen.
Well, I would repeat what we've said yesterday and last night in a multiple agency statement that we have taken a serious look at this.
We have gone through 5,000 some odd sightings.
We have added detection capabilities to the region.
We've even sent up visual observers.
And everything we're seeing to date, our assessment tells us that these are commercial drones, hobbyist drones, or law enforcement drones all operating legally and lawfully.
I don't know hobbyists that have drones the size of school buses.
I don't believe him.
I think he's lying.
Now, if it was being operated legally and in a lawful way, well, why over Wright-Patterson Air Force Base in Ohio, I believe?
You know, why did they have a news report on WHIO on drones forcing airspace to be blocked?
Listen.
Seven small drones forced Wright Pat officials to close the airspace over the base for hours this weekend.
Thanks for staying up with us tonight.
I'm John Bedell.
We've been reporting on drone sightings like this across the country recently.
News Center 7's Malik Patterson is live outside the base.
Malik, you talked to one man who's concerned, and this isn't the first time he's hearing about this.
John, he said he's seen people talking about it on social media all weekend.
News Center 7 reached out to Wright-Patterson Air Force Base to talk about the airspace blockage.
Base officials said the base airspace was blocked for four hours late Friday night and into Saturday morning.
They said they did this because of small drones and that none of the incrusions impacted base residence facilities or assets.
Base officials said they are still monitoring the airspace for anything like this in the future.
We've told you about the mysterious drone sightings across the country recently, including at other military bases.
I talked to one man who's been following this on the news.
He told me what he thinks about this now that is in the Miami Valley.
Obviously, that's a big concern for national security.
It's like you have these FPV drones, people can just fly them around in unrestricted airspace.
If they're shutting it down, then it kind of makes you wonder, like, what are they worried about here?
We also wanted to know if Wright Pat had any contact with Department of Defense or any other federal agencies.
A base spokesperson reached back out to us and told us that they have no clue or no idea if those higher-up conversations are being had.
In Fairborn, Louise Patterson, New Center 7.
All right.
And spotting is now over Great Britain as well.
The U.S. Air Force admitting last month that drones had buzzed over three of their UK bases and reports that American nuclear weapons are being deployed to one of them for the first time since the Cold War have heightened fears that Russia could be behind it.
But again, we don't know a whole lot about it.
We just don't.
And we do know that your government is not being transparent.
That part we know.
You know, NYPD discovered massive drones amid sightings in the New York area.
One of them can be explained.
New Jersey residents say they're suffering alarming symptoms after encountering with these drones.
It's scaring the hell out of people, and they're just very nonchalant about it.
They just don't care.
I'm an UAV pilot, and here's what happened when I tried to fly near one of these mystery drones.
The pilot of fans of a paranormal investigation, anyway, witnessed his own drone crash and burn as he attempted to steer it near one of the many still unexplained drone UFOs.
He said, when this started, I tried to fly my drone over it.
Is it true?
I have no idea.
I'm just telling you what's being reported.
Anyway, maybe somebody that can shed light on it knows a lot more about this than me.
Is Lou Elizondo, former head of the Pentagon program responsible for the investigation of UFOs, now known as unidentified anomalous phenomenon?
I think I prefer UFO.
He's also the author of Imminent Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs.
Anyway, Lou, good to have you.
How are you, sir?
I'm doing quite well, sir.
Thank you for having me, and a big thank you to your wonderful audience.
So I'm assuming that this is a big issue for you, and you know a lot more about this than I do.
What do you know about this?
Well, it is a huge issue.
And look, you're absolutely right.
When you have somebody that is representing the White House from a public affairs perspective doubling down and trying to convince the American public and our elected officials and our law enforcement officials that these are just hobbyists and typical drones and manned aircraft, meanwhile, you're shutting down controlled U.S. airspace over none other than Wright-Patterson Air Force Base.
Let's not forget this is on the context as well of these things being seen over Langley Air Force Base, Andrews Air Force Base, Picatinny Arsenal, you name it, right?
So sensitive military installations and nuclear facilities.
I think it's an abomination, to be honest with you, that anybody in a position of authority would have the gall to try to pawn this off as being just regular and routine.
It is not regular and routine, and it is not regular routine for drones to be flying at night, particularly the ones that are the size of an SUV or larger.
And some of their navigation lights, if they are even navigation lights, are not consistent with the strobe pattern of normal conventional aircraft.
And last but not least, we also have had eyewitness accounts, including elected officials, that say that they have the capability of moving forwards and backwards, not something that is capable of in an airplane.
Right.
In fact, more than that, there's some reports of these things even coming out of the water and stalking a U.S. Coast Guard cutter up to 10 of these things out in the middle of the ocean.
So why nobody's taking action, I don't know.
I can tell you that I think right now the White House has got a real issue on their hands with this.
We have been saying for seven years now that there is a very, very serious vulnerability with our control of our skies, particularly over-controlled U.S. airspace.
do not have situation awareness period and we saw that with okay let's say you're right And let's say this might involve a hostile nation, a geopolitical foe of ours.
U.S. could also be our technology.
But I suspect the lack of urgency would tend to lend itself to that conclusion, wouldn't it?
So, not necessarily.
So, a lot of times...
I mean, if this was China and Russia, you don't think it would be all hands on deck and our military shooting these suckers out of the sky?
Because we'd have to.
Well, we didn't shoot really to look how long we waited to shoot the Chinese balloon that was over our sky.
Unfortunately, that's you know, what you're saying is logical, but unfortunately, this particular guess administration doesn't really pay attention to logic.
Look, there's a whole slew of inconsistencies here.
So you, wait a minute.
You think there's a possibility that these could be drones from hostile regimes and that they're given carte blanche to fly over military installations and entire states in our country, and they're doing it with impunity?
And our military is not doing a thing?
You think that's possible?
Well, it is possible, sure.
And I hope that's not the case, but it is possible, especially if you can't do anything about it.
What do you mean you can't do anything about it?
You can shoot the sucker out of the sky and blow it into smithereens.
Well, one would certainly think so, right?
And there's also non-kinetic ways we can do it.
We have electronic warfare capabilities.
I can put these things to the ground.
The question is, why are they not doing it?
And is it considered a provocation?
I personally think that these drones, most of these drones are probably ours.
I don't think it's foreign adversarial.
I do think it is.
If you look at the way these things can loiter, they're using a battery-powered operator.
Most drones fly for 15 to 20 minutes, max.
And their range is never over the horizon.
If you want to have something fly over the horizon, Sean, what you need is a huge infrastructure to do it.
You need either aircraft to repeat signals.
You need satellites.
You need personnel, resources, infrastructure.
These are not hobbyists.
These are very sophisticated pieces of equipment.
Well, a hobbyist doesn't have a drone the size of a bus, does he?
No.
No.
And more importantly, it doesn't have the most commercial drones don't have the ability to defend themselves.
There's several videos now of other drones coming close to some of these larger ones, these crafts, and completely losing power and just falling out of the sky.
And then these things disappearing into the night.
So there is some.
Let me go back to my earlier question.
The fact that there's such a lack of urgency in this tells me that they've got to be our drones.
There's no way that this would be a foreign entity flying school buses or drones the size of school buses over our country in the numbers that are being reported without some type of military response.
That seems impossible to me.
Even as corrupt as the Biden regime is, I still think it's impossible.
I would never underestimate incompetence.
And what I'm saying, this is true in any organization or administration.
I'm not just picking on this particular one.
There have been many, many, many examples.
It's my time in the government.
I have seen the dysfunction firsthand.
A lot of times agencies aren't talking with the other agencies.
You have Title 10, Title 32, Title 50 organizations.
Then you've got the state, local, tribal authorities.
Then they're not talking to each other.
You have the Bureau that's running the investigation, but with the help of the Department of Energy, you also have DHS, FAA.
It's a real big hodgepodge.
And unfortunately, dysfunction can answer a lot of that.
Again, let's look at the Chinese spy balloons as an example, right?
We only shot it down after it passed over our country and did whatever it needed to do and scoop up the intelligence it needed to scoop up.
And only when there was a public outcry did we actually do something about it, right?
we did it out in the middle of the ocean um there are look i mean there might be a top secret military mission I mean, there's been a lot of speculation, and I want to be very clear.
This is speculation that maybe some radioactive material had been detected or missing or something like that.
And this is a search for it, and it's not something they want the public to be made aware of.
Why wouldn't they just say, no, these are our drones.
They're safe.
They're not going to fall from the sky.
And we're doing military reconnaissance all in the name of national security.
And for now, it's top secret.
Why don't they just say that?
Right?
Exactly.
Exactly.
That's exactly my point.
Why not just be level with the American people?
Say, look, there's things that we can't tell you specifically because they involve national security.
At a certain point in the near future, we will let you know.
Let us get a handle on this operationally, and then we'll let you know what's going on.
But they're not doing that.
What they're doing is they're passing the buck, and they're pointing at each other, and they're saying, no, these are drones.
They're hobbyists.
And you've got some people in the FBI of all places saying, no, these aren't.
We don't know what the heck these are.
We don't know where they're from.
And we don't know their capabilities.
And yet somehow somebody in the White House is a threat.
All right.
Quick break more on the latest with these drones.
Lou Elizondo's with us, former head of the Pentagon program responsible for the investigation of UFOs.
Your calls on the other side, 800-941-Sean, as we continue.
All right, we continue now.
Lou Elizondo's with us, former head of the Pentagon program responsible for the investigation of UFOs.
If I wanted to buy a drone such as this, the size of a bus, would I be able to find one?
I'm sure if you went to Russia, you probably could, but this brings to another...
Okay, I'm not going to Russia.
Could I buy one in the United States?
Probably not.
Could the average hobbyist buy one of these types of drones?
Because the hobbyists that I know, I know, for example, a friend of mine went to drone school, and he's a drone camera operator for Fox News, and he's really good at it.
But it's a little baby drone.
It's nothing like this.
Correct.
And there are ordinances that prevent and rules that apply when flying these drones.
But the question is, is it possible for an American to own and operate a drone the size of a bus?
You would probably need special permissions because those are very specific type and very capable type drones that could be weaponized very easily.
Again, we get to loiterability.
Some of these have been hovering for five to six to seven hours at a time.
We don't have drones that do that.
You're talking a very specific military application type drone, and then you're talking about being able to fly it over the horizon and possibly tens, if not even 100 miles.
And it's not fixed-wing.
That means it's rotary wing.
You're talking a very sophisticated, very expensive platform.
And okay, I can find, I can see you're a multi-multi-millionaire and you buy one of these things, but you're not going to have the ability to deploy these completely anonymously all over the continental United States over censored military installations, deploy them, fly them, and then retrieve them and maintain them without anybody ever seeing you.
Come on, that's that's that's impossible.
And again, back to the lack of urgency tells me that they know everything about these drones and they're not telling us, and it's probably theirs.
I'll leave it.
Anyway, Lou, I've got a roll though, man.
Appreciate it.
Thanks for your time.
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So there's been a lot of talk about, all right, well, what do you do about the Trend de Aragua Venezuelan gang that apparently is getting more violent by the day?
It is now it's been identified in 16 states, and they're getting more bold.
And I read a report yesterday that assassinations are probably the next step for this gang if their past is any indication of what they will do in the future.
And there was an arrest in Aurora, Colorado.
You might remember it became a big issue in the campaign.
You might remember the appearance of JD Vance armed with Martha Raditz, and she downplayed the whole thing.
Listen.
Well, Martha, you just said the mayor said they were exaggerated.
Mostly exaggerated.
There's got to be some, that means there's got to be some element of truth here.
And of course, President Trump was actually in Aurora, Colorado, talking to people on the ground.
And what we're hearing, of course, Martha, is that people are terrified by what has happened with some of these Venezuelan gangs.
Senator Vance, I'm going to stop you because I know exactly what happened.
I'm going to stop you.
The incidents were limited to a handful of apartment complexes.
And the mayor said our dedicated police officers have acted on those concerns.
A handful of problems.
Only, Martha, do you hear yourself?
Only a handful of apartment complexes in America were taken over by Venezuelan gangs, and Donald Trump is the problem and not Kamala Harris's open border.
Americans are so fed up with what's going on and they have every right to be.
And I really find this exchange, Martha, sort of interesting because you seem to be more focused with nitpicking everything that Donald Trump has said rather than acknowledging that apartment complexes in the United States of America are being taken over by violent gangs.
I worry so much more about that problem than anything else here.
We've got to get American communities in a safe space again.
I mean, it's so basic and simple.
Known terrorists in the country.
We have gang members like Trende Aragua in the country.
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Let me stop you right there because I know it's only a few apartment complexes.
I love what JD Vance said.
Are you listening to yourself?
Did you just hear what you just said?
Randy is in Michigan, Sean Hannity Show.
What's up, Randy?
How are you?
Well, just to let you know, I'm a former Marine and from Michigan.
And I want to thank you for your show.
I think it's excellent.
You have a lot of insight and commentary, and I love it.
Well, thank you for making it possible for me to do it.
And what a great year all of us have had.
It took every spoke in the wheel.
Every vote was a spoke.
And we're able to get our country on track again.
Thank God.
Okay, I just want to say, number one, I don't think Joe Biden is capable of doing any pardons.
I don't know who's pulling his strings, but yesterday you made a statement, and I listened to some of the folks you had on in the prior session.
And yesterday you made a statement about the pardons that you think it was okay for someone to be pardoned before an offense or a crime was committed.
And I got to tell you, it almost took me off the road because I didn't expect to hear anything like that from you.
And I'm just wondering, I've searched it out.
I don't see in the Constitution where that's plausible.
Well, it does the power of the pardon, and even Greg Jarrett said it, it's never been challenged in the court.
Now, could it be challenged?
Absolutely.
But, you know, if you're asking me if my interpretation is that that power is absolute, there are no restrictions on it.
Well, it doesn't make it, it goes against all reality and common sense.
I mean, I know now, there's two very, we're talking, we may be talking about two very, two very, very different things here.
Okay.
And I want to be clear that we're on the same page here.
All right.
And, okay.
So if you're asking me, if we're talking about Article 2, Section 2, Clause 1, the President shall be Commander-in-Chief of the Army, Navy of the United States and the militia of the several states when called into actual service of the United States.
He may require the opinion in writing of the principal officer of each of the executive departments upon any subject relating to duties of their offices, etc.
He shall have the power to grant Reprieves and pardons for offenses against the United States, except in the cases of impeachment.
So it establishes clearly the president's authority to grant clemency, encompassing not only pardons of individuals, but several other forms of relief or criminal punishment.
The power which has historical roots in English law.
I don't want to bore you, but let me just say what it doesn't say.
It doesn't offer any restriction at all.
Now, if you're asking me if it's the moral and right thing to do, that's a very different question.
But I've never thought Joe Biden was particularly ethical anyway, so that's not an issue in dispute.
Now, would the courts likely be challenged?
I think it would.
Do I think the interpretation ultimately would lie in the Constitution that is silent on this very question and aspect?
I think they would probably err on the side of it being an absolute power of the president.
That's where I think it ends up.
So, like, why waste our time?
So, if I don't want you to take my remarks as a seal of approval of Joe doing it, the only good thing that would come out of it is it would help Donald Trump focus on his agenda, which I would prefer he focuses on anyway.
Right.
But we got a lot of work to do to fix this country.
I know we've all done things we needed to be forgiven for, for pardoned for, but that's usually after an act has been committed.
Now, you got folks that are all these pardons that you were mentioning that may be forthcoming.
How can they pardon them?
That's what I don't get.
They haven't even been charged to get it charged.
That's why it's a preemptive pardon, but the Constitution does not directly address it, nor does it take that option away from the president.
So if you ask me if it was challenged, and Greg kind of agreed with me, and so did Brett Tolman.
If challenged, I think the power would rest with the president.
And that power, I don't think that the Supreme Court, if ever they ever would take a case like this, would ever go against something that is not prohibited directly in the Constitution.
That's my take on it.
And as a constitutionalist, I think you have to take it for its original intent.
So it's consistent with my belief in originalism.
But it's not, do I think it's right?
No.
Of course not.
But do you have any expectation that Joe Biden is going to do the right thing?
No.
No.
I mean, how many times did he say he wouldn't pardon his own son?
Right.
But I'm not as hot and bothered by any of it.
And I'll tell you why, because I'm just excited about securing our border, you know, removing all these dangerous people from our country to get it safe.
I'm not sure we're going to be able to do it.
That to me seems like the most impossible job.
I want the economy back on track.
I want to be the most energy-dominant country on the face of the earth.
I want to restore law and order in our country.
I'd like our schools to be fixed.
I am very excited about Doge and cutting waste, fraud, and abuse and returning to limited government and greater freedom.
I want America to establish its role in the world as the leader of the free world once again.
I like the fact that foreign adversaries fear Donald Trump and respect his willingness to do whatever is necessary to defend our country.
And I think we're just better off in the end.
So I'm kind of looking big picture.
And this to me is, you know, a bitter, angry old man on his way out that did a horrible job and is trying to cover up all the corruption that we were trying to expose for four years.
Right.
Well, I appreciate your time, sir.
And you have a blessing.
Does that clarify it a little bit for you?
I mean, I don't want you to think I'm giving this guy my, you know, a gold star for doing it.
Okay, tongue in cheek.
I'm going to give you one more chance.
I appreciate it.
Thanks, Randy.
God bless you.
Bye-bye.
All right, man.
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Thanks for talking to me.
I'm a long-tam listener, going back to Combs.
I'm a retired MD who's been teaching disaster preparedness and disaster response for those 20 years.
And I also have lectured to NASA and ASA on preparedness.
And this discussion about drones gets my attention.
I'm also a fiction writer.
Catch my attention in a way that is not being discussed much, although I haven't heard every part of your shows.
Is it's possible the government's covering up a nuclear problem, perhaps even a nuclear weapon that they're trying to find in fear of setting off mass panic.
And that we've seen mass panic in a variety of situations like Hurricane Rita in Houston.
I recall around 2005.
Lots of people died on the highway, some from floods, some from road rage.
People were stuck there without food and water.
It's a huge problem if people panic, especially in big cities.
And so it's conceivable to me that they've chosen that the better route here is to not scare people and keep hunting for whatever they're hunting for.
You have had people talk about these drones have the capability of finding radioactive areas.
And so it's just a thought to me.
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But call the state or the county, the AAA to know about roads, have evacuation routes that you already know ahead of time.
Be prepared for road rage and try to avoid it, of course.
I'm not saying take a weapon, but be careful.
People do get crazy and get mad.
Anyway, this is the kind of stuff I wanted to quickly get in.
Well, I mean, obviously you're very informed, and obviously it's good to be prepared.
I used to be a mini prepper, and in some ways I still am.
I've got an arsenal, I'll put it that way.
And I've had that for some time because I've downsized significantly in my life, and I live in a much smaller place than I used to.
And I actually prefer it, and I live alone.
So, I mean, do I have all the food and water that I used to have?
No, but I have quite a bit of water, and I have quite a bit of food, but I don't have my freezer stock full of, you know, meat like I used to.
But I probably over time will build back up again.
You know, I had six months' supply of emergency food.
If God forbid something happens, you know, I think, do I think everybody needs a generator if you can afford it?
Yeah, I do.
Do I think most people need medical supplies and water and food to sustain them for as long as possible for them and their families, even if it's like MRE type of food?
Yeah, I do.
I think that's smart.
Do I think people need, you know, maybe gold and silver as part of their economic strategies if there's some time of economic calamity or collapse?
Yeah, I've thought that way my entire life.
Everything you're saying is plausible.
So, you obviously know your stuff.
I think you're giving good advice, and I urge people to protect themselves.
I've read the same stuff you've read that, you know, there might be something, you know, militarily radioactive related.
But again, it's all speculation.
They won't be honest with us.
And they could be as honest as just saying something as simple as, We have a national security issue, we're on it.
We'll tell you as soon as we know more.
And, you know, stand by.
We don't see a risk to the American people and explain to the give as much assurance as you can realistically give without lying.
