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Dec. 12, 2024 - Sean Hannity Show
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Drones over Jersey - December 11th, Hour 2
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Hi, Leonard Skinner, simple man.
And that can only mean one thing on this radio program, and that is all things Self-proclaimed simple man.
That means all things, Bill O'Reilly, and of course all things Bill O'Reilly are at BillO'Reilly.com.
Mr. O'Reilly, sir, are you getting ready for the holiday?
I'm staring at my Christmas tree right now.
I got the Christmas thing going on.
I actually have a picture of my tree on Bill O'Reilly.com and a message of the day, along with roles of the season for the O'Reilly household.
You'll get a kick out of those, Hannity.
What what what are a couple of the funny ones?
Okay, the one main rule is no bad bunny Christmas album.
We're not doing that.
We're doing Johnny Mathis, Karen Carpenter, no bad bunny.
It is not a rap Christmas here in the O'Reilly home.
And then on a semi-serious note, Christmas cards, you gotta you gotta write a sentence.
You just can't print it out and send it with nothing.
Because, hey, how are you?
I always never set a Christmas card my entire life.
Hannah, you're going to hell.
No, I'm not going to hell.
Why would you say that?
I don't have time to do Christmas cards.
I I literally every year as busy as you are, and I send my cards out.
Man, I I'm I'm doing three shows now because I've I've got the Fox Nation uh, you know, show that I do.
Uh and uh yesterday, for example, I interviewed Russell Brand.
Very interesting life.
Uh we did Sly and uh Stallone, we did Stephen A and uh Jillian.
We're gonna we're gonna we're gonna do all these.
Maybe maybe I'll even put you on one day.
Gotta be uh shocker, but uh, you know, you're hanging with the swells now, Hannity.
That's me.
Um the Hannity hangs with the Swells.
All right.
I am obsessed over this story, and I cannot believe this is the United States of America, and we have Joe Biden, we have the FBI, we have a Department of Homeland Security, we have a the we're supposed to have the best military on the face of the earth, uh, but I'm a little worried about what Reagan once called a gap of vulnerability.
I don't like that China and Russia have hypersonic technology.
We do not.
Uh I don't think that we are ready for for the the next level of modern uh technological warfare.
I believe future wars will be fought in air-conditioned offices by pushing buttons, Bill O'Reilly.
And how is it that we have these drones flying all over the state of New Jersey uh right next to where you are in New York, and nobody has a clue about where these things come from.
And Bill, it even gets worse than that, and it really annoys the the living daylights out of me, because I I listen to what this idiot uh governor in in New Jersey had to say, and I'm sure you probably picked up on it as well.
He actually said that they're very sophisticated.
Now we do know they're the size of a dining room table.
These this is not like your camera drone that you might use for for your website or that they use at Fox News.
The governor says they're very sophisticated.
The minute you set your eyes on them, they go dark.
And at a press conference, this idiot governor in New Jersey uh literally said they found no evidence of a threat to public safety, but they know nothing about where they came from.
He said the most important point is uh we don't see any concern for public safety.
Now they don't know where they came from.
They don't know where they originated from.
Eighty percent of drones in this country are made in China, Bill O'Reilly.
Did you know that?
You probably did not.
I am helping you out.
That's so that scares the daylights out of me.
And how is how come our Department of Defense is not taking these things out of the sky as we speak?
Well, there was one in my backyard, and I'm not kidding.
So I overlook uh the Long Island Sound and uh this thing I'm zooming along.
And I made a couple of calls and I found out that uh Governor Hochel of New York, um she's taxing these drones, and and they're gonna be subject to congestion pricing in New York if they go.
Listen, don't I I have no sympathy for the fact that you're paying higher taxes than I am because you choose to stay in New York.
I chose to leave.
You fled.
But anyway, the really outrageous part of this story is that it's a continuation of the arrogance of many politicians, and you're talking about Governor Murphy in uh New Jersey, but New York too.
Um, where they don't the elected officials don't believe they have a responsibility to explain anything.
It's like blank you.
So I I don't know where the drones are.
So what?
No, it's not so what?
Do your job, get the state police and find out what's going on here, or get the Department of Interior to tell you what's going on.
Because you're absolutely right.
Uh if I'm sitting there at my house and this flashing light zooms across Long Island Sound, I'm going, what the deuce is that?
And nobody, you can't get any answers.
That's the real story.
Now, do I think it's China doing something untoward?
Probably not.
It's probably some kind of commercial enterprise that somebody launched, but in this day and age, the public officials have to level with the folks.
That's got to stop.
Oh, we don't know what it is.
No.
Find out what it is.
I agree.
There's no excuse for this.
And uh look, it may be nothing, Bill.
It may, it may not.
I don't think the average drone enthusiast, and there are drone enthusiasts out there.
I I have friends of mine that are drone operators that work at Fox News.
They're really talented people, and it's incredible the work that they do.
But those drones are tiny.
They're not the size of a dining room cable.
Um maybe it turns out to be nothing.
That's not my problem.
Um what I am concerned about is it possible that maybe uh it's a foreign adversary that is flying these drones?
And how has it taken so long to figure this out?
The fact that this has gone on on Sunday there were 49 sightings in a single day in a single town.
Right.
How many more sightings do we need before DEF COM 5, you know, uh urgency is declared?
Somebody should wake up President Biden and say, look, order your uh Department of Um Homeland Security to get on this and figure this out.
You remember the balloon thing that was hysterical about what, 18 months ago?
And and it was emanated from China.
And China and they lied to us the whole time.
They were hoping we wouldn't see it.
And it was some guy in Montana that took a picture of it, and then we realized it's a Chinese spy balloon, and they were flying over our military installations.
We can't we can't have that.
All right, let me move on.
I got other stuff I have to ask you.
So we have the CEO of United Healthcare, Brian Thompson.
He's a father.
Uh he's he he comes from you know lower middle class, kind of a background like us, and he he works his way up in the corporate world.
I understand why some people have disagreements with health insurance companies, car insurance companies, home insurance companies.
That that's a whole separate issue to me.
This man was assassinated in the streets of New York.
And this is the sick part.
You got all these people on the left that are praising this guy.
There are t-shirts and memorabilia praising this guy, Luigi Mangioni.
Yeah, this idiot Jimmy Kimmel, and he's an idiot, you know, out there, you know, reads his producer's text messages obsessing on this.
I would visit him in prison.
Okay, visit an assassin in prison, and it goes on.
And and honestly, people justifying, you know, conflating their their frustration with an insurance company and praising and and talking about being joyful over the assassination of this guy is beyond sick to me, Bill.
Yeah, but it's good for the traditional conservative movement because as loony as these people get, the more Americans say we don't want this.
Um, and um keep your eye on Elizabeth Warren, the senator from Massachusetts, who is a far left loon.
She's Now the face of this kind of justification.
She's putting forth that the companies, healthcare companies, are so heinous.
They're driving people to violence.
And she's using the death of this man to Well, let me give the exact statement.
She said violence is wrong, but you can only push people so far, so she's justifying it.
Right, that's right.
And because they want socialized medicine.
It's not gonna work.
Um there are two issues here.
Number one, ten years ago, these loons who are justifying this murder would not have been heard.
But now, because of social media, uh, the press just runs wild because it's a three-day cycle, they can use it.
And number two, the health care insurance companies are terrible in this country.
They're awful.
And working men and women are getting pounded every single day.
And I hope President Trump, when he gets in, has his Department of Health and Human Services, that could be Bobby Kennedy, but he's gonna have a rough go.
All right, set up an agency to oversee the health care companies because you cannot continue to deny insurance claims at the rate they are denying them.
So there is a legitimate I I fully agree, Bill, but uh this it but we gotta go deeper into this if you really want to raise this question.
Remember the promise, you keep your doctor, you keep your plan.
Average family saves twenty five hundred dollars per family per year.
Remember that promise, Bill?
Yep.
Well, the what the results are in millions of Americans lost their plans, millions lost their doctors, and we're paying close to two hundred and fifty to three hundred percent more than we were paying for less coverage.
Forty plus percent, almost forty-five percent of the country has only one Obamacare exchange option, because insurance companies decided it was not in their best interest to be in the Obamacare Exchange business, and that then force them out of the health insurance industry, the lack of competition has led to inferior care and the problems that you're talking about, there's a lot that needs to be done.
Right.
So the solution to the problem is to begin to define it.
But you're right, in the sense that there are always unintended consequences whenever you set up a welfare program, and that's what Obamacare is.
It's a flat outfare program.
All right, and it's basically designed to give poor Americans free health care, which it does.
But the rest of the tax base, the rest of the taxpayers, the workers, suffer because they have to subsidize the people getting the free health care.
And as you rightly pointed out, most health care companies don't want to get involved with that at all.
So they split and now they were pushed out of the industry because they can't make money.
Okay.
That's the problem.
And if you can't make money, you're not gonna sustain your business.
This is so complicated that the federal government has to step in and try to define a better way forward.
But you can't have people they're ruining their whole um financial portfolio when their kid gets sick because the company says we're not gonna pay it.
You cannot have that.
All right, quick break, we'll come right back.
800 941 Shaun is a number of more with Bill O'Reilly, all things simple man, all things O'Reilly, Bill O'Reilly.com.
All right, we continue now with Bill O'Reilly, simple man himself, all things O'Reilly at BillO'Reilly.com.
All right, let me get your reaction to Daniel Penny.
To me, Daniel Penny was a hero.
This guy threatened to kill people and hurt them on a subway train.
Uh, that is a clear and present danger.
That is justified use of force based on the law.
He never should have been tried.
Uh, you had witness after witness testify that they're they felt their life was in jeopardy.
He acted.
Uh what would you think of me, Bill O'Reilly, if there were elderly people, women and children on a subway car, and somebody came in like this particular guy, Neely, and threatened everybody on the train, and I just sat on my ass and didn't do a thing.
Would would you would you lose all respect for me?
I think you would.
You know, it depends on the situation, because you have to understand one thing.
New York City is so dangerous now.
Public safety has collapsed to such an extent That there are literally thousands of mentally ill people roaming the city every day armed with knives.
So if you try to intervene, a civilian, not somebody like you who's trained in in uh um self-defense, but a civilian, just a regular person, and they want to help.
The first thing that goes through the mind is if you're in the subway, does the guy have a knife?
Is he gonna stab me to death?
So Penny put himself at risk.
That's number one.
He put his phys his physical self at risk because this guy with 42 arrests, including a conviction for beating up a sixty-eight-year-old woman.
This is the victim now.
Okay?
A sixty-seven year old woman and a sixty-eight year old man.
We got ten seconds, you gotta wrap up.
All right, he's a hero, and Alvin Bragg should be fired, the district attorney of Manhattan.
Well said.
All right, all things simple man, Bill O'Reilly, go to Bill O'Reilly.com.
Thank you, sir.
Appreciate you being with us.
Uh it's hard to believe.
I I definitely don't have the Christmas spirit yet.
Linda, are you in the Christmas sphere yet?
I mean, the birth of our Lord and Savior is a punish on how could I not be in the spirit of our Lord and Savior?
I mean, this is a good thing.
Why do I feel sarcasm behind that?
No, I mean No, in all honesty, I mean, yes, I love Christmas, but you know, it's difficult when when you work in news.
There's no question.
It just is I just I'm just not there yet.
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All right, let me let me get back to this issue here about this drone.
I know I'm obsessed about.
I can't help it.
Because I'm frustrated by it.
I am frustrated that there is a lack of urgency.
And I keep saying over and over again, it may be nothing.
It may end up being nothing.
I hope it's nothing.
But the idea that you have, you know, 49 sightings in a single day.
This is not your average drone camera.
I've mentioned before, a very good friend of mine is a drone camera operator at the Fox News Channel.
He's really good at what he does.
One day, when I lived in New York, he came over my house and he had gone to drone school, believe it or not, this there's such a place, and Fox got him the training, and he's amazing at it.
And anyway, I was up in I had a studio in my house in New York, and I was up in that studio, and he literally flies the drone straight in front of my window, and it hovers there.
And he's videotaping the whole thing.
And he showed it to me later.
It was pretty cool.
Um this is not what we're talking about.
We're not talking about those little drones, and there are people that are enthusiasts, and I like it, and I think they should be allowed to use it.
I you know, I have to have some restrictions, you have to protect people's privacy, et cetera, in my view, but that's separate and apart.
But we have a situation where you've got these drones, and they keep telling us how bad it is.
For example, like I keep going back to this New Joycey governor, Phil Murphy, who's a he's a total idiot.
And he's he's he's pointing out the obvious that the drones are very sophisticated.
We're told they're the size of a full size dining room set.
I'm like, you know how big that is?
It's huge.
Anyway, and then he says they're so sophisticated, the minute you put your eyes on that drone, they will go dark.
Here's what he said.
These are apparently very s as I understand it, very sophisticated.
The minute you get eyes on them, they they go dark.
Um and you know, we're obviously could most concerned about uh uh sensitive targets and sensitive critical infrastructure.
So we've got military assets, we've got utility assets, we've got the president of elects one of his homes here.
This is something we're taking deadly seriously.
Oh, we're taking deadly seriously, but don't worry, there's no problem, no reason for concern for public safety.
You don't know anything about it.
And anyway, Chris Smith, Republican, New Joycey, you know, says a police uh officer saw fifty drones come in off the ocean.
So last night I was on the beach in Island State Park uh in Ocean County with the with the sheriff.
Um he's he has been working it every single night.
He's got his own uh tethered drones chronicling one of his officers two nights ago saw fifty drones come in off the ocean right there.
So we thought maybe they'll replicate it.
They didn't, but we thought it was a possibility.
I then uh last night we had a number of other people there, including a commanding officer from the from the uh Coast Guard, who said that one of their 47 foot um uh motor lifeboats was followed by between twelve and thirty of these drones as they went uh through the water, followed right behind them.
Are you kidding me?
That that to me, it should be DEF COM five, our military needs to be all over it, and you know, now it's Wednesday.
They spotted these things over the weekend, and they haven't done anything.
Then they know nothing about it.
What are they doing?
Forty days and our long national nightmare is over.
Well, Joe's too busy, you know, firing missiles into Syria and empowering and and arming Ukraine to fire ballistic missiles into Russia, knowing that Donald Trump wants negotiated settlements and has a very different philosophy this after he was calling for restraint on everything.
Then we have Congressman Jeff Van Drew, and he says sources are telling him the New Jersey drone might be Iranian.
That's a little scary.
Listen.
Iran launched a mothership probably about a month ago that contains these drones.
That mothership is off the ground.
I'm gonna tell you the deal.
It's off the east coast of the United States of America.
They've launched drones, is everything that we can see or hear, and again, these are from high sources.
I don't say this lightly.
Now, you know, we know there was a probability.
It could have been the our own government.
We know it's not our own government because they would have let us know.
It could have been some really glorified hobbyist or hobbyist that were doing something unbelievable.
They don't have the technology.
Uh, but let's pretend that's possible.
The third possibility was somebody, an adversarial country doing this.
Know that Iran made a deal with China to purchase drones, motherships, and technology in order to go forward.
Um the sources I have are good.
They can't reveal who they are because they are speaking to me in confidentiality.
These drones should be shot down, whether it was some crazy hobbyist that we can't imagine, or whether it is Iran, and I think it very possibly could be, they should be shot down.
We are not getting the full deal, and the military is on alert with this.
Why aren't they shooting him down?
I don't think this is a hobbyist.
I don't I don't see it.
That person would have come forward by now or would have been identified by now, and the military is not giving this the urgency it needs.
It may turn out to be nothing.
I want to put emphasis on that.
It may, but we have to assume the worst here when we're talking about national security.
Now, Lori Buckhout, she is a retired army colonel, decorated combat commander, an expert in cyber electronic warfare.
Uh and anyway, she joins us now, and um I'm really really concerned about this.
Uh am I wrong in my concern?
And am I are you as shocked as I am that there's no sense of urgency coming from the president, the vice president, the Department of Homeland Security, our military, because I am.
Hey, Sean Thor, first thank you for having me on, but uh I could not agree with you more.
It is absolutely appalling, but uh, you know, that sense of of shock and disgust has sort of been following us since the Chinese weather ballooned incident, right?
Uh the fact that that was allowed to drift, it was control it wasn't just drifting, of course, it was controlled, and uh that was allowed to do and collect everything he wanted to.
And I think it's even worse now because we have no leadership in America.
Um Trump is a de facto president, but he doesn't have any authorities.
So nobody's in charge.
And uh I think you have a lot of folks acting with impunity, and I think they're probing our defenses.
So my sources tell me, and you correct me if I'm wrong, that sophisticated drone technology that they have the ability not only for surveillance, but they would have the ability if it's the right, if it's a military drone, to hit a target miles and miles and miles away when fired.
Is that true?
You're absolutely correct.
So drones can be used for surveillance, they can drop payloads, uh, they can jam radio communication signals, uh if they're swarming, they can disrupt our rados or radars, and they can camouflage other activities such as larger ISR, you know, intelligence platforms, they can camouflage other fires capabilities.
Uh there's a whole lot a drone can do.
All right, quick break.
We'll come back more with Laurie Buckhout is with us and we'll continue.
This drone mystery continues.
It's pretty unbelievable.
There's no sense of urgency from the government, but they're telling you everything's fine.
Don't worry about anything.
They don't know anything.
Quick break, right back, and your calls coming up 800 941 Sean as we continue.
All right, we continue now with Lori Buckhout is with us, retired army colonel, uh decorated combat commander, an expert in cyber electronic warfare, talking about these mysterious drones that have been there for days, the size of dining room sets and and sounding like motorcycles and nobody knows where they came from and what they're doing.
What do you think?
Uh you know, based on your background, I mean you have a very impressive background.
You know, we we've talked about, you know, electromagnetic pulse attacks in this country.
Uh we now that this is what we know.
We have known terrorists in the country because of Harris Biden open borders.
This is what we know.
We have cartel members here, we have gang members here, we have murderers here, rapists here, we have other violent criminals in our country that they have allowed in unvetted, and they're all over the country.
So we have known enemies inside of our country, and then these drones show up, they're the size of a a a kitchen table.
Can you describe what that size drone would be capable of?
Is it is it what you just said, they can drop a payload, they can do surveillance, jam radio communications signals.
I assume they they might even be able to disrupt uh, for example uh uh flights all across the country, maybe the electrical grid.
Um or am I am I going off into crazy lab?
No, you're you're actually uh making very common sense suggestions on what a drone that size can do, but a drone that size can do also can release other drones.
So it can serve as a drone hotel, if you will, to move these things in and out.
Um there are uh so many capabilities, and you know there was a Chinese national just picked up in California who was using drones to surveil uh some military targets out there.
But I mean, let's just consider all the targets that you were just talking about.
Of course there's military installations, but there's also electrical grids, there's our water systems.
Uh good grief.
There are schools, municipalities.
There's so many ways to disrupt us, uh, to bring out terrorist attacks.
Um and y you know, there's there's some interesting stuff that like for instance the NFL is uh they put out, you know, uh counter drone capabilities on their stadiums because they don't want drones going in there.
Imagine a drone going in that you could use to spray crop fields, for instance, that farmers could use.
And you spray even water over a crowd of people and cause a stampede.
You know, think about that.
There are so many ways to disrupt and and destroy so much of what we have going on in America from infrastructure just to sporting events.
I mean it's insane.
And these things are allowed to just compl continue to fly around.
Lori I want you to stay right there.
Denise is in New Jersey and apparently has been seeing these drones firsthand.
Denise say hi to Lori uh Buckout and tell us what you've been seeing.
Uh hi Sean I love your show.
Um thank you.
So we've been hearing about these drones since mid-November, I think November eighteenth and in my area we didn't see them.
They were more like in Ben Minister near Trump's golf course over reservoirs, over Piccadinny arsenal.
So I said I'm like you obsessed I said I have to go take a ride and see what this is.
So I went towards Trump's golf course, and lo and behold, there was the drones there.
The next day, that was Saturday.
The next day is Sunday, which is the Sunday you're talking about where there was 49 phone reports.
They were over Bergen County, where I live.
So as soon as it gets like a little dark, you hear all this buzzing, and then all of a sudden, you see in the skies, I saw eight, maybe ten by me.
But in the meantime, on the neighborhood reports, everybody starts putting pictures and videos of this information.
in Carlstadt there was one extremely low extremely low so I well I've heard the same thing in the same exact description and it sounds like a motorcycle I was that's how somebody that saw one described it to me.
Uh Denise I appreciate you calling in with that report.
Thank you.
Lori what's your take on that what are we dealing with based on that analysis?
You know if you're dealing with um drone engines that sound like motorcycles you're dealing with big drones that are capable of a whole lot of stuff.
And the fact that you've got like I said earlier got Karim Pierre saying they're not foreign drones, how do we know that for starters?
I don't believe it, number two and number three, why haven't we taken one down to see what's going on with it?
And you know you have to have special permissions to shoot at these things there's FAA there's local there's local law enforcement there's district attorneys etc.
Um I can't there's no there's no urgency from Biden, Harris, Mayorcus, nobody.
No urgency I I am I'm I'm like the most urgent person I know.
Yeah I no uh Sean I agree with you a hundred percent.
And now a lot of these drones, you talk about the Chinese drones potentially sourced to Iran to do this sort of thing.
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