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Dec. 11, 2024 - Sean Hannity Show
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Rogue Prosecutors - December 10th, Hour 3
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Here for our final news roundup and information overload.
All right, news roundup and information overload hour.
Toll-free, our number is 800-941 Sean.
If you want to be a part of the program, predictably the radical left coming out in force and with the typical protest, no justice, no peace, after the Daniel Penny verdict.
Listen.
No breastfeed, no peace.
These racists, police.
Then a protester saying Daniel Penny should have been convicted for murder, urging the crowd to shout Jordan Neely and Neely's and fellow protester Relly Rebel's name, whoever that person is.
Listen.
Daniel Penny should have been convicted for murder.
That's right.
Yeah.
I was saying, well, what's on?
Daniel Penny should have been convicted for murder.
That's right.
So, Relly Rebel.
Really Rebel is the father of the black man, is the founder of We the People, one of the most longest current standing mutual aid groups in New York City.
So I want us to come out here and not only remember and scream Jordan Neely's name while we're in these streets, but I want us to scream justice for Really Rebel.
Okay?
Pretty unbelievable.
Now, last night on TV, we actually showed you a picture because we played yesterday the rhetoric of this Black Lives Matter activist, Hawk Newsome, and him calling for vigilanteism.
Where was BLM, and we showed the picture of a St. Louis police officer.
He happened to be African-American.
His name is David Lee.
He was killed in the line of duty, which was back in September by a drunk driver that apparently was a Harris Biden unvetted illegal immigrant.
And the list that I scroll on television gets longer and longer and longer.
But, you know, where did these people come from?
Here to react is former federal prosecutor, assistant U.S. Attorney for Violent Crime, Charles Cully Stimson, is with us, author of Rogue Prosecutors, How Radical Soros Lawyers Are Destroying America's Communities.
Paul Murrow, also with us, retired NYPD inspector, attorney, and founder of opsdesk.org.
Welcome, both of you.
You know, considering you wrote this book, there were comments that were made by Senator Ted Cruz, which I found pretty interesting, Charles.
And that is that he said that, yeah, maybe it should be Daniel Penny that sues Alvin Bragg in this case.
I think I agree with him.
Yeah, well, he could try to sue him for malicious prosecution because this case should never have been brought in the first place.
Obviously, as we wrote in our book, chapter, chapter 10, Bragg sees the criminal justice system through race-colored glasses.
That's the way he views things.
Had the decedent been white, he wouldn't have brought this case.
And for his own prosecutor in court to bring up the race of the deceased, even though they didn't charge a hate crime here, was despicable.
So I'm glad the jury did the right thing.
Well, there was no evidence of such.
And Paul, you even had an African-American woman that said thank you to Daniel Penny.
She felt her life was in jeopardy.
She testified to such.
How many more eyewitnesses testifying that they believe that life is in jeopardy does one jury need?
Who he stepped up to protect were women, children, and from everything I've seen from the body cam footage and the interviews afterwards, people of color.
And we just need to ask ourselves, does anybody believe after taking some measure of Daniel Penny's character, does anybody believe had Jordan Neely been a white guy and committed the exact same acts, that Daniel Penny would have just stared at his phone and not acted.
I don't think any of us who are honest about this really believe that.
He stepped up to protect the people on that train car, most of whom were people of color, and he would have had a lot easier day if he just looked at his shoes and said, you know what, I'm the toughest target here.
Pass me by.
You can go bother the other people, Mr. Neely, and I'll have an easier day.
Let me ask you if I can, Charles.
There is and has been an organized effort, Gascon, Alvin Bragg, and others, money's being spent to get DAs elected that believe in this defund, dismantle, no-bail madness, and that have a political agenda and that are weaponizing justice in small towns and big cities around the country.
I don't think most people have been paying attention to it.
Now, you did a lot of research for your book.
What did you discover?
How many of these radical DAs have been elected and how are they doing it?
There's just over 70 across the country.
Now, there's 2,300 elected DAs across the country, but one in five Americans lives under the boot of a Soros Rogue prosecutor.
And Soros has spent between $45 and $50 million in direct spending.
Chapter two of her book goes to that whole thing, but about a billion dollars, Sean, in indirect spending through 527 state PACs.
And so they have a pretty simple playbook.
You don't prosecute misdemeanors.
You water down felonies to misdemeanors.
You don't charge violent juveniles as adults.
You don't ask for cash bail.
You never ask for the death penalty.
You never ask for life parole.
The list goes on and on and on.
All their policies, Sean, are pro-criminal, anti-victim, and cop-hating, period.
And that's why a lot of them have gotten booted from office, but there's still a lot more to go, like Larry Krasner down in Philadelphia, and of course, Alvin Bragg in the city.
Well, and what is your take, Paul?
I mean, the bottom line is, I bet you the fact that even though he failed miserably in this case, Alvin Bragg is going to come up for reelection.
And the fact that he prosecuted this case, the fact that he went after Donald Trump as hard as he did with his novel legal theory, even though the statute of limitations had long since passed in what was a legally binding non-disclosure agreement, which I'm sure, if I got into the weeds in the DA's office in New York City, what do you think the odds, Paul, are pretty high that they have had non-disclosure agreements in that office themselves?
I think that's a pretty good guess, don't you?
Oh, of course, absolutely.
And I can also tell you, just a double-tap that point, is that my contacts in the Manhattan DA's office, which I still have, a number of them, were ashamed of this case.
They knew that it really damaged their brand that used to be the A-lists of state prosecutors nationwide.
You had some very storied names there.
And Alvin Bregg has really besmirched the reputation of what once was a premier prosecutorial office.
But, you know, Sean, to your point, chances are he will get re-elected.
I mean, that's the sad thing about New York.
All of this money that is being spent.
Now, Gascon did lose in Los Angeles.
I don't see the same thing happening to Bragg Charles in New York.
Am I wrong?
Well, I hope you're wrong because, look, Soros did not play ball this time with Gascon.
Gascon had no Soros money this time because he realized that Gascon had ruined the brand, to Paul's point, of the LAD's office, which used to be a great DA's office.
And the reason that Tessa Boudin got recalled to San Francisco and Kim Fox in Chicago didn't run again and Kim Gardner in St. Louis skedaddled out of office and Rachel Rollins up in Boston left under a cloud of ethics is because they ruined the brand.
So we'll see whether his brand is ruined and the Soros money dries up.
I hope it does.
I hope it does too.
Paul, we'll give you the last word.
Well, unfortunately, he's going to dine out on the fact that he tried to get Donald Trump and that it didn't work because Donald Trump managed to achieve re-election.
So he'll probably test himself as a martyr.
But you know what really matters is the street conditions here in Manhattan.
And a lot of Manhattanites, myself included, obviously, just feel like he's taking the wrong priorities on here.
And that may actually hold sway.
Doesn't it feel like things are changing a little bit across country, right?
Not just in the Trump re-election, but on the ground, defunding, all that stuff's starting to go away.
So at the end of the day, Sean, I choose hope.
Appreciate both of you.
Thank you.
Charles Cully Stimpson, Paul Morrow, 800-941-Sean is on number if you want to be a part of the program.
All right, let's get to our busy phones.
Tom is in Minnesota.
Tom, hi.
How are you?
Glad you called, sir.
Sean, again, it's a great honor to speak with you again.
The reason I called in about the penny case is I heard a comment by Clay Travis yesterday on the Buck and Travis show, and it was reiterated this morning by the great Alan Dershowitz, who I heard this morning on the Glenn Beck show.
And everybody around the country, I think, has been wrongly assuming that this jury was mainly going to convict Daniel and that it was a few die-hards that wanted to acquit him that were holding out.
Now, Clay and Alan both came up with a theory from the opposite way, and that is that the majority of the jury actually wanted to acquit him, and it was a couple of jurors that were holding out.
And I think once the first charge was dismissed, it was much easier to wear down the ones that didn't want to acquit.
And that's why I think the verdict came back so easy.
Well, but think about this.
If you want to convict on the basis of manslaughter, and then they throw out that charge, and then you go to the lesser charge, why would the people that wanted to convict on manslaughter go along with the exoneration or the not guilty verdict on the lesser charge?
That doesn't make it, it doesn't on paper make a lot of sense, does it?
No, it doesn't.
But I think that when they saw that they were hopelessly deadlocked on the first charge, and then the judge said, you know, you have to come to unanimous vote, I think it was much easier for those that wanted to convict to move on.
And the other thing is that this jury, you know, they talk about racism.
This jury was ethically, ethnically diverse, and majority of women.
And I think the real truth is going to change the tide in this is if we can somehow poll some of the jury members and just, you know, get some information about what went on if they are allowed to speak about it after the fact.
And I think if it comes out that the majority were willing to acquit for a long time, I think that will shut up a lot of the protests.
We'll see over time, that's for sure.
800-941-Sean, our number.
All right, let's go to Al in Michigan.
Al, you're on the Sean Hannity show.
Hi.
Hi, Sean.
I wanted to talk to you about the CEO of the insurance company being off.
Yes, sir.
What's up?
Well, I'm sorry, Sean, but we're not blind.
We're not stupid.
We see that everything is rigged against us.
Insurance model is making literally billions by denying coverage of people who've paid for years.
And as for deductibles, really?
I mean, we paid for years.
Then you told you don't meet your deductibles.
They're office holding.
Hey, Al, you seem to be justifying the assassination of a CEO of a company because you don't like health insurance companies.
That's where it sounds like you're going.
No, what I'm saying is that there are literally people out there who are sick and tired of being screwed by these people.
Okay, that's very different than the fact that this guy has a manifesto and is justifying murder, which is what happened here, by making the case that it had to be done.
How many people were killed by him denying?
How many people died because of that?
I have no idea.
I don't know anything about United Healthcare, but I do know something, a thing or two about murder.
Highest rate of denials of people's having a go back to my predicate.
You sound like you are not upset at all about what has happened here.
And you should be upset.
Literally.
Because this guy is a father, and this guy was a husband.
And whether you like his policies or not, nobody forces you into United Healthcare.
People can make their own choices.
If you're not happy with that insurance company, you can go to another insurance company.
You know, I mean, I think a lot of our insurance companies got really screwed over by Obamacare, but you don't like insurance companies.
Fair enough.
You don't have to like them.
And I know people that have been denied claims, and I know that they make it hard, and they have co-pays, and then they only want to pay X number of dollars, and they only want to pay for X number of treatments.
I've heard all the nightmare stories, and I'm well aware of it, but that has nothing.
One thing has nothing to do with the other.
You're talking about cold-blooded murder and assassination, and you want to talk to me and kind of make the case and rationalize away what the behavior of this murderer.
Are you there?
I think you just hung up.
Linda, was I hearing that right?
I understand people's frustrations with insurance companies.
I think only one person has the right to decide if somebody lives or dies, and that's God.
You can be angry, but God is the ultimate decider.
That's correct.
You don't assassinate people.
If you don't like a company, nobody's forcing you to stay with that company.
And I guess if your place of business happens to have that company and you don't like the plan, you know, you're free to get another plan, a supplemental plan.
There are all sorts of companies out there that you can pay for what's called concierge coverage in addition to whatever your health care provider is giving you.
You can get catastrophic care, and that's usually relatively easy.
But I'm just going to jump in for one second.
A lot of people can't afford that stuff.
So even though those options are available, people are living paycheck to paycheck, as you often say.
But putting that all to the side, our healthcare industry is definitely not at the top of the scale.
We have a lot of denial of claims because that's just the nature of the process.
However, nothing justifies murder.
Well, you know, Piers Morgan went absolutely nuclear on this, you know, former Washington Post, New York Times reporter, Taylor Lorenz, who said she felt joy following the death of this United Healthcare CEO, Brian Thompson.
I understand frustration with insurance companies.
It's a pain in the neck.
And you know what?
Obamacare made things dramatically worse for everybody.
All right, quick break, right back.
We'll continue.
All right, let's get to our busy phones.
Robert Altuna PA.
This is where they got this guy, Mangioni.
Robert, how are you?
Glad you called, sir.
I'm fine, John.
How about you?
I'm good.
I wanted to call in about it because obviously it's not really a big town, and obviously that was the talk of the town.
Everywhere you went, people were talking about it.
You could see it on the TVs and everything.
But what I wanted to say about was the reaction to it on Facebook and just talking to people is some people were like really glad that this happened.
And I think that speaks to a like a larger problem we have in this country that this sort of thing is becoming acceptable.
Right after the verdict was announced in the Daniel Penny case, there was an activist out there.
He was saying stuff that's tantamount to a call to violence.
And I think that part of this, part of the reason why this happened.
Sorry.
Let me play the exchange.
And this is Taylor Lorenz, formerly of the Washington Post, New York Times.
And Piers Morgan just ripped her because she said she felt joy about the murder of this United Healthcare CEO, Brian Thompson.
He is a father.
He is a husband.
Listen to this exchange.
Why would you be in such a celebratory mood about the execution of another human being?
Aren't you supposed to be on the caring, sharing left where you believe in the sanctity of life?
I do believe in the sanctity of life.
And I think that's why I felt, along with so many other Americans, joy, unfortunately, because it feels like maybe not joy, but certainly not, no, certainly not empathy.
Because again, we're watching the footage.
How can this make you joyful?
This guy's a husband.
He's a father.
And he's being dumbed down in the middle of Manhattan.
Why is that making joyful?
Americans that be murdered.
The many millions of Americans that have watched people that I care about suffer and in some cases die because of lack of health care.
So should they all be killed then?
Should they all be killed, these healthcare executives?
Would that make you even more joyful?
No, that would not.
Why not?
Why are you laughing?
Taylor, I don't mean to be rude, but why the f are you laughing all the time?
I don't get it.
Sorry, apologies for my language, but honestly, I find it unbelievable.
What are you laughing at?
I mean, this is how sick the left is.
Now, if you want to have a separate discussion, separate and apart from the assassination of United Healthcare CEO Thompson, that's fine.
But, you know, the idea that you feel joy that he was assassinated because you don't like a particular insurance company, this is just insane.
And she's not the only one saying these things.
Anyway, we'll give you the last word.
Look, Robert and Altuna.
Yeah, I just, it's absolutely nuts.
And we have to start holding people accountable for this sort of thing, or it's never going to get better.
I mean, and Piers brought up a good point here.
Well, if you feel joy about the assassination of this guy, you want to assassinate other CEOs of other companies.
What are we going to go after, you know, oil and pharmaceutical company executives next?
And, you know, when does this stop?
We're going to go after talk show hosts at some point.
That happened once in the past.
It's just insane.
Anyway, appreciate your call.
800-941-Sean, if you want to be a part of the program.
Joe in Virginia.
Hey, Joe, how are you?
Glad you called.
Thank you, sir.
I appreciate you taking my call.
My comment is very brief.
There's obviously a movement in the Senate to vote in private on the president's nominees.
And there's a way to cure that, I think.
In other words, let those who want to vote in private vote in private and let the rest of them vote public and we'll still know who the rhinos are and who's not supporting this mandated agenda.
What do you think?
I don't want to telegraph too much, but Mr. Smith goes to Washington.
Well, your friend, Mr. Hannity, is going to Washington right in the beginning of the new year after I take my long vacation and get some rest and relaxation and recharge and find God and center myself for the first hundred days.
And the inauguration, and we got a lot coming up in January, but I will tell you this, that vote, these votes will be in public.
They need to be.
I didn't like that the Senate majority leader, John Thune, was selected in private.
I think that vote should have been made public.
And I find it offensive that any of these votes are private.
You know, they are the elected representatives of we the people.
They're supposed to be public servants.
They ought not be hiding who they are, how they vote ever under any circumstances.
Anyway, thank you.
All right, my friend.
God bless you.
God bless the Commonwealth.
We appreciate you being with us.
Let us say hi to Rick is in Kentucky.
Rick, how are you?
Glad you called.
Hi, Sean.
How are you?
I'm good, man.
What's going on?
How are you?
I live 20 miles south of your buddy in Cincinnati.
Bill Cunningham.
Bill Cunningham, he's a great American.
Sean Hannity, you're a great American.
God bless you.
God bless America.
I need a full report.
It's not too bad, right?
Yeah, not too bad.
I take it that's where you're heading in your hiatus down through the compound.
Oh, he talks about his secret compound in Florida.
Is that what you're talking about?
Yeah.
Yeah.
I know.
I live.
I don't know where you've been, but I moved to Florida.
I live here full-time.
Yeah.
Looks like a nice place.
Yes.
You know what?
It's a very nice place, but I do like the people of Kentucky.
Kentucky's a nice place.
A little colder than I like, but I prefer warmer weather.
Just happens to be my preference.
Yeah, I kind of agree with you.
The older I get, the worse it is.
I used to ski a lot.
I don't ski anymore after I tore my meniscus, but whatever.
I didn't feel like getting it repaired.
And I just rehabbed it on my own and with Sensei and I'm good.
Yeah.
But what I'm calling about is, you know, I'm kind of irritated with all this money that's going from us taxpayers over to Ukraine and stuff like that.
Well, all these people in North Carolina, South Carolina, and stuff like that are still living in freaking tents.
It's unconscionable in the freezing cold with their children.
Yes, yes.
Now, I just seen this morning, they brought a bunch of FEMA trailers in finally, you know, and made a compound out of it.
But, you know, that's just all in one place.
Now, when Bush was president and New Orleans took the hit, you know, my God, he was getting chastised left and right.
Yes, I think you're 100% correct.
And I could just tell you that with the double standard, it couldn't be any more apparent, obvious, transparent than what we're living through now.
And it's pretty awful.
And the media has been silent.
They've gone dark.
We have devoted quite a lot of time, both on radio and TV, to the issue.
And, you know, we keep telling people about Operation Hilo and Samaritan's Purse.
And we put a link up on my website.
They're doing great work.
Local churches are doing great work.
People helping people, neighbor helping neighbor.
That has helped a lot.
But the need is great.
And FEMA just keeps sending out denial letters for people that make claims.
I've never seen anything like it.
And Joe Biden is sending money all over the place, paying off student loans, which the Supreme Court told him he couldn't do, sending money to Ukraine, firing missiles into Syria, escalating the conflict with Putin and Ukraine.
I mean, it's like he wants to start World War III out the door.
And I just heard on Willie's show today that we're sending a billion dollars to Africa for climate.
Oh, I talked about that last week.
41 days left, and our long national nightmare will be over.
That's it.
And it's time for it to go.
Rick, Kentucky, God bless you, my friend.
Have a little bit of bourbon while you're there for me, okay?
Been a pleasure.
Appreciate it.
Let us go to Missouri Janet next, Sean Hannity Show.
Hey, Janet, how are you?
I'm fine.
Thank you.
I'm very, very, very thankful to get to talk to you.
We listen to you all the time, and I really appreciate you.
I appreciate you back.
You give me this microphone, and together we thankfully got the country back on track.
Amazing election this year.
Well, let's say it's starting back on track.
Right now, it's a real mess.
But what I wanted to talk to you about, I don't think our founding fathers wanted our president to be a king, but I don't think they wanted him to be God either.
Because as far as I know, the only one who can unconditionally pardon all sin is God.
And yet, yet Biden wants to do this blanket pardon for Pelosi and Fosse and the FBI and the CIA and his son and his family and himself.
And I don't know who else he wants to, but I don't think that's constitutional.
And I think the people have a right to decide who's guilty and who's not guilty and find out.
They could have killed someone or inside trading or money laundering or leases or contracts or all sorts of things that could have been committed by these people that they need to pay for.
Well, let me just help you out a little bit with the constitutional part of it.
The power of the pardon of the president is absolute.
And Joe Biden is well within his right to give this unconditional pardon to zero experience Hunter.
And if I was Joe Biden, I'd start thinking about all the other family members and maybe himself getting a pardon out the door too.
Apparently, they're working on a list of names that they believe Donald Trump will be seeking retribution.
Although he said in every single interview, well, he gave the one this weekend, Meet the Press, that success will be his retribution.
Fixing the country is his priority, lowering gas prices, getting the economy, groceries back, securing the border, getting peace in Europe and peace in the Middle East.
Those are his priorities.
And he has no intention for retribution.
He said it over and over and over and over again.
And, you know, of course, the legacy fake news media, they didn't want to hear his answer.
I'll give you the last word.
Well, there's a difference between being retribution to his enemies and the American people regaining faith in America for people being found guilty of crimes that they've committed.
Even when it is in contempt of court or of Congress, one goes to jail and one they say nothing about.
America will never trust even Trump, who I adore deeply, if he can't abide and let the people rule and let people pay for what they do.
I mean, forgiving Hillary was the.
Well, but remember, the power of the pardon is absolute.
That is his constitutional right to do it.
But don't conflate a pardon with our Heavenly Father's concept of forgiveness of sin.
It doesn't mean you've been forgiven by God.
That's God's decision.
You know, we do know that if you, as a Christian, I believe that through the sacrifice of Jesus on the cross, we are forgiven our sins, you know, when we seek repentance and change our hearts.
That I believe.
But you don't want to complete that with the constitutional authority of the pardon.
That's clear.
That's absolute.
Donald Trump will be pardoning people, and he should.
All right, that's going to wrap things up for today.
We are loaded up tonight, Hannity, Nine Eastern, on the Fox News channel.
Janine Pirow with video, her exclusive interview with Daniel Penny, the first interview.
She will share it with us tonight at 9 on Fox.
Also, Josh Hawley, we have a drone expert who's going to talk about all these drones that are mysteriously appearing in the sky over New Jersey and some over Pennsylvania.
We have the mayor in New Jersey, also Matthew Murrell, will join us.
Also, Jillian Michaels on how you can live a healthier life and why she's so against weight loss drugs.
All coming up Nine Eastern tonight, Hannity.
I'm Fox.
See you tonight, back here tomorrow.
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