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Rep. Ronny Jackson - December 3rd, Hour 2
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One Sean, if you want to be a part of the program, still a ton of fallout as it relates to uh the issue of illegal immigrants and and the pardon of Hunter Biden.
And you know, it really is it it really is pretty amazing the reaction too of Democrats uh when it when it comes to the issue of their analysis and the legacy media's analysis of why Donald Trump won and they didn't.
Uh we're gonna get to all that in just a few minutes.
First, I want to bring in we want to talk a little bit more about the Hunter Biden uh pardon.
Uh Jonathan Turley made a good point, and he pointed out that Hunter Biden can still be prosecuted on additional charges which would not have been covered by his father's, you know, pardon, which I found interesting considering it's full and unconditional for what he may have done uh committed from January 1st, 2014, as I've been pointing out, interesting timeline considering Barisma to December 1st, 2024.
But as Turley was on Fox and Friends this morning pointing out, Hunter could potentially face charges if he's called to testify before Congress about the alleged influence peddling scheme and could be charged with perjury if he makes false statements.
And he said he could be called to testify.
And the last time he did that, the House accused him of giving false testimony.
Now, we brought this up last night.
Now, this does not exonerate Joe Biden himself, the big guy.
And remember remember Hunter Biden's laptop implicates his own father.
Half my income goes to Pops, and it goes on and on.
And then other family members, how much did Joe Biden's brother make in all of this?
Is he gonna get a pardon?
Is Joe gonna pardon himself?
What about wives and ex-wives and kids that got money as a result of zero experience hunter, you know, getting paid millions of millions of dollars from Russian oligarchs, Barisma, no experience in energy, oil, gas, uh, Ukraine, Russia, but or a Chinese energy company, CEFC.
I'm sitting here with my father.
I mean, Joe Biden's implemented all over all of this.
Anyway, uh, Dr. Ronnie Jackson, Congressman Jackson is with us.
He uh is pretty outraged by all of this.
And anyway, uh Ronnie Jackson, Congressman Ronnie Jackson, Dr. Morani Jackson joins us now.
How are you, sir?
Hey, Sean, thank you for having me.
I'm doing fine.
Thank you.
Uh well, let's talk about it.
I mean, you're obviously a pretty pissed off at this, but it doesn't surprise me.
I don't think it probably surprised you either.
Well, no, it's absolutely it it's it just outrages me to be honest with you, and outrages a lot of people in the in the country right now.
After four years, Sean, of this weaponization, they actually took the federal government, the Biden administration did, and found every single way that they could to weaponize it against President Trump and anybody that was associated with him or anybody that shared his agenda, and then now they roll in at the very end and they make claims that there were put there was a political nature to this, and that's why Biden is is uh is pardoning Hunter.
It's absolutely ridiculous.
And the American people see right through it.
I think this is gonna this is gonna backfire on him, Sean.
I honestly do, because uh, you know, as it was mentioned earlier, I heard Jason uh Jason Smith talking about a little bit Earlier, he said, you know, now that they don't have the uh the FBI and the DOJ doesn't have an investigation to use as an excuse for why they can't prov provide uh emails and bank records and everything else.
Now they're gonna have to provide that information to Congress, and Congress may actually get access to information that uh that they haven't had before.
And I hope that Jamie Comer and and um and uh gym Jim uh Jim um uh I hope they they basically in judiciary and and the Arbersight Committee, uh Jim Jordan, I hope that they they pursue this aggressively.
I mean I know they will, and and I think that the Biden administration understands that you know things are about to change drastically at DOJ and that stuff's probably about to become available anyways.
But he's I think it's gonna lead to uh the implication of many other family members, including Joe Biden himself.
And I think they're gonna be in a in a real uh uh bad spot when when this uh when when the dust settles on all of this, and just like you said, uh this covers him until until the end of this year, until uh December of twenty twenty four.
But if they if he gets drugged back before Congress and his stories don't line up or he lies to the American people like he's repeatedly done, then uh he's in trouble.
Well, what about Joe Biden not as president, because we had the Supreme Court decision on presidential immunity, but what about his actions when he was vice president and his son was doing all these foreign business deals and he was a financial beneficiary, at least according to Hunter Biden and in his own words.
Well, I mean I think that's why the the pardon is ten years, you know.
I mean, there it's it it it it you know, it's it's a blanket pardon that goes all the way back to the early days before Barisma.
And I think they know this is almost an admission on part of the on on the part of the Biden crime family in my mind that there is stuff out there that we are going to find when President Trump gets back into office and he's gonna try his best to just wait.
I guess he did go back and pardon him for ten years with a blanket pardon, knowing, knowing that there's gonna be criminal activity that's gonna that's that's gonna be you know that that's gonna come out and that he potentially is gonna get charged with and uh and it could bring him down.
So I uh I th I think that this is you know, but Joe Joe Biden's trying to do it to, you know, to cover himself as well, because like you said, uh when you start looking into this and when you really dig into it, we already know at this point, but we're gonna be able to prove uh without without any doubt whatsoever in the very near future here when we get uh the DOJ and uh the FBI straightened out that uh Joe Biden uh benefited from all of this and that uh you know that uh Hunter used uh the influence uh from having Joe Biden as his father as vice president uh to line the pockets of not just
himself, but of Joe Biden, Joe Biden's brother, other family members, the entire Biden family got rich uh you selling the influence of the vice president uh it at the time and and and uh that's uh that's a crime, obviously.
What do you make of l let's go back and Joe Biden before the council on foreign relations?
It's a tape I played often and he brags about the fact I s you know, he goes to Ukraine, he was tasked with uh during the Obama administration with being in charge of Ukraine, and he goes there with the billion dollars in loan guarantees and he says, Well, you're not getting a billion.
You're not getting the billion until you fire the prosecutor.
The prosecutor is the guy that was investigating Barisma and the prosecutor was the guy that was in uh that was investigating Hunter.
And you know, son of a B, they did it.
Here's what he said.
I had gotten a commitment from Porchenko and from uh Yatsinyuk that they would take action against the state prosecutor, and they didn't.
So they said they had a they were walking out to press conference and I'm not gonna g we're not gonna give you the billion dollars.
They said, You have no authority, you're not the president.
The president said I said call him.
I said, I'm telling you, you're not getting a billion dollars.
I said you're not getting the billion.
I'm gonna be leaving here, and I think it was what six hours.
I looked at me leaving six hours.
The prosecutor's not fired, you're not getting the money.
Oh, son of a bot fired.
Okay.
So the guy investigating his son with zero experience in Ukraine, energy, gas, uh, oil, had no experience whatsoever, being paid millions of dollars, being investigated.
He gets the prosecutor doing the investigation fired, and he leverages a billion taxpayer dollars.
Why does that sound like a quid pro quo to me?
And here's the challenge for the new Congress.
Should they be investigating Joe Biden and Joe's brother and Joe's family?
And and would it be wise for Joe to pardon himself and other family members if he really wants us to go away?
Well, stand by I think he probably will.
I think that that's uh that's coming.
But you know, this is just another example.
If if that had been Donald Trump or somebody that said those things, that would have been the end of his political re career right there and then.
But you know, this is just you know, it it's no coincidence that we've referred to you know the Biden family as the Biden crime family, because you know, we can see all the stuff that's that that's that's happened, uh, you know, that that's criminal, you know, in nature.
But the the way they carry themselves, they carry themselves like they're a mafia family, like they're untouchable, and that's just this whole attitude, like he didn't really care.
Uh but you know, it it it it I think that he will.
I think that he will go back and he will say he will pardon other people in his family.
And I wouldn't be surprised if he uh provides a blank a blanket pardon to himself for you know ten years on the way out the door.
It wouldn't surprise me a bit.
But yes, absolutely to answer questions, Congress should be doing every single thing that we can uh to to continue to dig in this, dig into this and hold them accountable.
Because look, Sean, if we don't hold people accountable, you know, w there's a you know, President Trump has a lot of big plans for the country, he's gonna reform things and make things a lot better.
But in the process, people that have done what they've done to this country over the last four years, they have to be held accountable.
If there's no accountability, this will happen again.
And we can't afford as a country for any of this kind of stuff to happen again with the weaponization and some of the stuff that's gone on uh for the last four years.
The left will claim this is weaponization.
However, you know, when you look at the basic simple fundamental facts, no experience, paid millions, Russian oligarch, Alena Batarina, uh Kazakhstan, Romania, Mexico, China, etc.
And and the sheer volume of money that they were making without any experience, and and then it's being distributed and and given to this family member and that family member, it really is remarkable, and I think you're right, the double standard stinks to high heaven.
With all of that said, and in the interest of justice, I think it has to be it certainly has to be investigated, and we have to get to the bottom of it.
Um but the second part of it is I don't want it to interfere with fixing the economy, making us energy dominant.
I don't want this to interfere at all with securing our borders, restoring law and order in small towns and big cities.
Uh we already see the world reacting to Donald Trump's presidency.
You see little Justin and in Canada, you see Mexico reacting.
You see all over the Middle East, Hezbollah and and Hamas, uh the Iranians are hiding.
The Chinese have been awfully quiet.
And you know, the world even and and even Zelensky's talking about, yeah, I'd give up land in order to make this work.
Yeah, no, I don't think it'll interfere.
I think that uh you know the Republicans can uh can do this and and do the work of the uh the work of the people at the same time, and that's really what the judiciary and uh or what sorry, what uh uh the oversight committee and committees like that, that they're they're supposed to be doing stuff like this, like uh, you know, looking into things that have happened and holding people accountable.
And uh I I think that that they'll be able to do this, and I think they ha like I said, I think they have to do this.
I'm a firm believer that if no one's held accountable that uh and people get away with this, it's the same thing with the the voter fraud that we've seen over the last few years.
As long as no one goes to jail for voter fraud, voter fraud's gonna keep happening.
No one's gonna care.
And it's the same kind of thing here with the weaponization of government.
As long as people that have done this uh don't pay a price for it, the the people that fall in uh in the next democratic administration will will uh will pull that out of the playbook and do the exact same thing.
It worked last time and they'll do it again.
Yeah, I mean, it really is.
And you know, I think some of the more important things that we've got to do here is put in place measures that this type of weaponization can't happen again.
I mean, you know, Joe Biden talked about, well, this only happened to my son because of politics.
I mean while he sat idly by when the statute of limitations case in New York was uh going on, uh, and a novel leak legal theory uh was was put forward that it had never been tried before, and the third highest ranking member of the Justice Department goes out, goes to New York to help Alvin Bragg.
Nobody would take that kind of demotion unless you really wanted to get somebody uh running on a campaign of get Trump.
Uh d Alan Dershwitz wrote a book about it.
You know, they call it, you know, they would they stack the charges one after another, but it again it was a legal NDA put together by an attorney and labeled the legal expense.
It should have gone away.
Then we have the whole January sixth issue.
Alan Dershowitz is out there today saying and urging Joe Biden to pardon the January sixth protesters.
Not the people that were violent, but the many people that you know, their their mistake was they they they went into the Capitol when they shouldn't have the w uh but they're getting five ten year sentences.
That sounds excessive to me.
Yeah, no, I agree with you, Sean.
And I think that you know, if he doesn't do that, which I doubt he will, but uh Trump's gonna you know President Trump is gonna do that.
They made one big miscalculation in this whole thing, Sean, and that that was uh that they were dealing with Donald Trump.
Because to be honest with you, it didn't succeed overall.
The weaponization, all the things you just described that were directed at President Trump to try to, you know, to uh to politically kill him and and get him get him uh you know out of the game.
None of that worked, and the only reason it didn't work to work was because it was Donald Trump.
Had that been a normal uh presidential candidate, another politician, uh they would have devastated him and they they would have gone away.
So I just because it didn't work this time doesn't mean that they can't make it work next time if we let him get away with it.
The only reason it didn't work this time was because they were dealing with Donald Trump and they and he's unique individuals you know.
Let me play Hillary Clinton from 2008 talking about illegal immigrants, and here's a quiz.
Who does it sound like?
I think we gotta have tough conditions.
Tell people to come out of the shadows if they've committed a crime, deport them.
No questions asked, they're gone.
If they if they've been working and are law abiding, we should say here are the conditions for you staying.
You have to pay a stiff fine because you came here illegally, you have to pay back taxes, and you have to try to learn English, and you have to wait in line.
Oh, who's that sound like?
It sounds like uh Donald Trump in many ways.
She sounds MAGA.
She sounds MAGA.
Great way to put it.
Uh well, uh, it's it's gonna be a little difficult in the House.
Do you believe that the slim majority will hold?
Will Republicans will they agree on the major portions of the uh the of President Trump's agenda?
I think we have to, Sean.
This is our last chance to fix this.
I think everybody knows that.
I think that there'll be people like me, and I I've always been very hesitant about calling out other Republicans if they don't agree with me on something or they don't, you know, uh vote the you know, uh uh uh uh the the way you know I would vote to with something like this supporting President Trump.
But I think we're gonna have to get to a point, honestly, where we we just have to we have to hold each other accountable.
And you know, uh the if if they feel like they're coming from a you know a blue district and they won their district there and they're a Republican in a blue district and they can't do this, they can't do that.
The rest of us are just gonna have to give them top cover, tell them that we'll help them when reelection comes around, we'll make sure they keep their seat, but they gotta do the right thing.
They gotta vote with President Trump and they gotta save this party, and they're gonna save this country.
Congressman Ronnie Jackson, Dr. Ronnie Jackson, thank you, sir.
Appreciate it.
Quick break, right back, we'll continue.
All right, remember Mika Brzezinski swearing up and down on the Liberal Joe show, uh Liberal Joe and Mika show that oh no, no, uh uh Joe will never pardon Hunter.
He's not like Trump.
Current president of the United States has so much respect for the law that he has said he would not pardon his son.
I mean, what the you know, again, it's all about the contrast.
All about the contrast.
So Joe uh to contrast, uh pardons Hunter.
And I bet there are more pardons to come.
Time will tell.
And but now, what is Joe, liberal Joe and Mika saying?
They're they're ripping the New York Times and other mainstream organizations for blowing, you know, the Hunter Biden pardon out of out of context and out of proportion.
I'm like, you you gotta be kidding me.
Listen.
No matter what you think of of this pardon, the coverage of this um is as if I mean you look at what has happened on the Trump side, especially if you have in parallel pardons that Trump has done himself.
Um it's just always so it seems so hysterically imbalanced.
Um I just, you know, when you when you read what how they're covering this, you know, look at the things that are happening on the other side, it is.
Well, uh Dave, that that's something that you're hearing.
I know you're not a media critic, but I know you've heard this complaint.
You know, the New York Times, like the top six stories uh uh on on online today were all about the pardon.
You looked at the Washington Post yesterday, you expected like war is over.
Right, you know, and in massive headlines.
Talk about the frustration that many Democrats are having on the New York Times, the Washington Post, Wall Street Journal, a lot of mainstream organizations blowing this up uh to a size That they believe is really out of proportion given everything Donald Trump has done in the past and what he's doing right now.
Hysterically imbalanced, that would describe the entire show and network, their show and the network that is MSDNC.
And that would be fake news CNN.
And that would be most broadcast channels when it comes to all things Donald Trump.
And the media, you know, legacy media, which I've declared dead, gone, and buried with no influence, and that was proven in this election.
Washington Post, by the way, I'm laughing at this some idiot over there, you know, today slamming me.
Well, Hannity quotes the mainstream media.
Usually I'm making fun of them.
Or we actually do something called attribution on this program.
And if I see something, I could I attribute it to what the source is, even when I disagree with it or mocking it, just as a means of being accurate, and they're wrong all the time, and we end up getting everything right.
But anyway, the the media, you know, was out there telling America, you know, that uh Joe's not gonna do it.
Listen.
And this week, of course, Hunter Biden was found guilty, and Joe Biden has very clearly said he would not pardon his son, he would not commute his sentence.
Current president of the United States has so much respect for the law that he has said he would not pardon his son.
He is not pardoning um his son, um, which he could do.
These are federal charges.
He is not doing that.
That is a power, he's a power for both of those.
He's not doing it because he is living what it means to have a rule of law in this country.
So I guess now he doesn't believe in the rule of law.
Uh, wasn't that the uh the pitfull of Robert Muller, Andrew Weisman making that comment?
I think it was him.
I'm not sure.
Um, and then we have Dan Goldman.
I love this today, confronted with the his past comments that Biden wouldn't pardon Hunter, and lo and behold, he did.
Listen to this.
Do you think a pardon for his son would be a mistake?
Yes, and I don't think there's any chance that President Biden is going to do that, unlike his predecessor, who pardoned all of his friends uh and anyone who had any access to him.
And I think you see that in this case, where he kept on, and Merrick Garland kept on a Trump-appointed U.S. attorney to investigate the president's son.
If there is not an indication of the independence of the Department of Justice beyond that, I I don't know what what we could look for.
Well, the when you reacted, this was when the deal had fallen through.
And I I hear what you're saying about the Cash Patel appointment, but you know, you took him at his word.
So what does that feel like knowing that he's gone back on it?
Well, as I said, I I'm I'm disappointed that um after the plea fell through and it became clear about why it did, including Republican congressional intervention in this case, uh, which made this case very unique and very different from any other case.
Uh, I think that uh we all, perhaps I should have as well recognized that uh this is not the normal prosecution.
I said many times that if Hunter Biden were not uh Hunter Biden, he would never be charged with these crimes.
Anyway, let's get to our phones.
James in Mississippi, how are you?
You're on the Sean Hannity show.
Hey, Sean, how are you doing today, man?
I'm good, man.
What's going on?
Uh nothing much.
Hope you had a happy Thanksgiving, everything.
Love it.
I like a little time off.
Can't wait.
What's going on?
But um, yeah, I was wondering since Cash Patel did get the FBI director spot, would it be possible for Donald Trump to tell him or anybody who he appoints to try and find something to go after the Biden's with this blanket pardon?
Look, I I've talked about this publicly, and I'll I'll repeat it uh again because it's so important to me.
And I just I I think that the power of the pardon can be transformational under this administration coming in.
And, you know, for example, Alice Marie Johnson is somebody that we love on this program, and uh uh but why not make her like the pardoned czar and task her with finding people in jail with excessive sentences, people who have been have dramatically changed their lives behind bars, people like her.
Got a life sentence, one drug offense, Donald Trump let her out, and you know, transform that power of the presidential pardon, and And I would I'd give out pardons, you know, once a week at least, to worthy people that people like Alice Marie Johnson can find.
And I would I'd have I'd focus on disparity in sentencing, which is very real.
And that's against minorities.
They've been unfairly sentenced.
For example, cocaine is cocaine to me.
I don't care if it's crack or powder, but you get a bigger sentence if it's crack versus powder cocaine.
Well, to me, it's it's it's you know, if we're gonna have laws against using cocaine, which I think we should, uh not for full drug legalization.
I think that would be such a danger to our society.
Uh but you know, you know, I think we have to be fair in sentencing, and we're not.
Absolutely, and I think even the pardon should extend to all the J6 people violent or not.
Well, that's what Alan Dershowitz is urged urging Joe Biden to do.
Um, you know, except for maybe the few people that were involved in in violence against police or whatever.
I mean, the sentences were so over the top.
I mean, it was pretty unbelievable.
You know, five, ten years for trespassing.
I mean, that's ostensibly what happened.
And and it should it have happened?
No.
Should they have in place measures so it never happens again?
Yes, I said that in real time, I meant it.
And the people that are responsible for for acting in ways that were absolutely irresponsible and and law breaking, they've got to be held accountable.
But for the people that just walked in and were taking pictures and roaming around and taking videos, did they really deserve five, ten years in jail?
No, they did not.
And to me, it was like such a hyper focus.
Meanwhile, we have known terrorists, cartels, illegal immigrants that are rapists, murderers, and and violent criminals, and nobody paid any attention to that.
And the prioritization of this and and this weaponized DOJ was just to get Trump rather than keeping all of us safe from wide open borders that and and those laws should have been enforced, or going after, you know, traditional Catholics or going after pro-life people or going after people like Linda that dare to speak up at a school board meeting.
I mean, they're not that they went after her, but the point is they're going after moms and dads at school board meetings.
Anyway, my friend, appreciate the call.
Uh, glad you're out there.
Uh Gary in Tennessee.
Gary, how are you?
Glad you called.
Yes.
Um, I'm a big fan, Sean.
First of all, and thank you for having me on.
Um the uh the epitome of the the unmitigated gall of Biden to think that he's his son should be above the law of all of us, and he just proved it by doing what he did.
He doesn't give give uh two flips for uh the rest of the United States.
He never has, you know.
Um I'm 77, about four about four years ago.
They put us put our food stamps down to thirty dollars.
That was Biden when he first went in office.
How can a person live on thirty dollars a month?
That's insane.
That guy is um criminal.
We know he's a criminal.
They got the money trails to him, they got everything.
They need to figure out that he knew what he was doing when he put that um that pardon on his son.
He did a blanket anything he might have done, even if you don't get caught for it.
If he gets caught later, he's pardoned.
So that is just that's just admitting that they're all criminals, like you said.
The Biden crime family.
That's what they are.
Uh it's I call we we affectionately refer to him as the syndicate.
Now, do I do I think this is the end of it?
No, I think there's gonna be more pardons.
I would not be surprised if Joe's brother is next and other family members are pardoned as well.
I would not be surprised if Joe ends up pardoning himself if he feels that the law is gonna be enforced equally.
I don't know what the laws of treason are, but you know, uh these things have to be looked into because uh uh a lot of us know what have what has happened over these last four years, and I I watch you know faithfully, and I I watch your program all the time, and that was my favorite show.
But I can tell you that uh the laws they twisted around to say like They're the good people.
They're not they're not virtuous in any way, in any means.
You know, and people like Obama, I remember him.
He was doing the same kind of thing.
All behind everybody's back.
Giving away billions of dollars, just like Biden.
You know, these are facts.
We all know that.
We've seen the airplanes.
Got the video on it, right?
Yeah, well, I appreciate the call.
Thank you.
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We'll come right back for your call's coming up 800 nine four one Sean.
If you want to be a part of the program, uh Devin Nunes will join us at the top of the next hour talking about Donald Trump's pick for the FBI, Cash Patel.
He knows him well.
Uh Trey Gowdy has come out very, very hard for him as uh uh also and many other conservatives.
Uh but yet the media and of course Democrats, they they don't want any Donald Trump pick to get through.
More on that, and your call straight ahead as we continue.
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Robert Maryland next Sean Hannity show.
Robert, how are you?
Man, uh, thank you for having me.
Love the show and you know, big fan.
And it's like being in a house, it's the only window that's open for fresh air nowadays.
Well, I appreciate it.
That's a pretty good analogy.
I need fresh air myself.
What's going on?
Uh a couple of things.
Uh, you know, we were the whole 4B thing.
And I'm like, you know, people, you know, it's half full, half empty.
You kind of got to look at it like, well, um, one less liberal will ever be born.
One less abortion will ever be you're go you're going hard in the pain here.
Keep going, I guess.
Let me go.
You know, and it's it'd be the other part of that that equation is is uh let's just say these women are liberals can ha have you know conservative children.
I mean, it probably would drive them nuts.
I mean, if my kids were liberal, it would drive me nuts.
Thank God they're not.
But they could be the the the the preacher's kid syndrome, but um yeah, and the other part of it is is you know, uh don't flatter yourself is if you're a store, nobody wants to shop there anyhow, if you know what I mean.
So um if you if you're store look, I mean the bottom line is if if you're a woman you want to shave your head, and you're a woman and and that's a sign of protest, and you're you you're you're saying no sex and you want to divorce your husband and you want to stockpile abortion pills or what you want to get sterilized, which now women apparently are doing.
Uh I believe in freedom.
That's your choice.
And I'm not sure why if you're getting sterilized or if you're not having sex, why you need to stockpile the abortion pills, but they can do whatever they want.
We live in a free country.
You look at it from from twenty thousand feet, look at what they value.
Sex.
Nothing about moral compass or anything like that.
That's that's what they distill their value to.
So um I wanted to to to mention something and and you know, you have to about twenty seconds.
Make it quick.
Go ahead, sir.
I I think you know, they give all this money away to Ukraine, unchecked, free money.
I think that, you know, uh, hopefully maybe the Trump administration can look at like forgiving a lot of the EIDL, uh, EIDL COVID loans because we're basically working for the the government.
We didn't shut the country down, or at least make them interest free, because a lot of small businesses are being hammered by that and barely surviving because they're on the hook for that.
And it was great that it was there, but you know, that would be a wonderful thing to look at, you know.
Uh so it is we we just gotta get this economy humming.
Um the way to do it is energy, the way to do it is lower taxes, the way to do it is freedom, you know, less regulation.
And I th I think that's all gonna happen.
I think it's gonna be transformative.
Um I I do have a lot of hope.
I really do.
Robert, appreciate uh you being with us.
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