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Rep. Ronny Jackson - December 3rd, Hour 2
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Sean, if you want to be a part of the program, still a ton of fallout as it relates to the issue of illegal immigrants and the pardon of Hunter Biden.
And, you know, it really is pretty amazing the reaction to of Democrats when it comes to the issue of their analysis and the legacy media's analysis of why Donald Trump won, and they didn't.
We're going to get to all of that in just a few minutes.
First, I want to bring in, we want to talk a little bit more about the Hunter Biden pardon.
Jonathan Turley made a good point, and he pointed out that Hunter Biden can still be prosecuted on additional charges, which would not have been covered by his father's pardon, which I found interesting considering it's full and unconditional for what he may have committed from January 1st, 2014.
As I've been pointing out, interesting timeline considering Burisma to December 1st, 2024.
But as Turley was on Fox and Friends this morning pointing out, Hunter could potentially face charges if he's called to testify before Congress about the alleged influence peddling scheme and could be charged with perjury if he makes false statements.
And he said he could be called to testify.
And the last time he did that, the House accused him of giving false testimony.
Now, we brought this up last night.
Now, this does not exonerate Joe Biden himself, the big guy.
And remember, Hunter Biden's laptop implicates his own father.
Half my income goes to pops, and it goes on and on.
And then other family members, how much did Joe Biden's brother make in all of this?
Is he going to get a pardon?
Is Joe going to pardon himself?
What about wives and ex-wives and kids that got money as a result of zero experience, Hunter, you know, getting paid millions and millions of dollars from Russian oligarchs, Burisma, no experience in energy, oil, gas, Ukraine, Russia, or a Chinese energy company, CEFC?
I'm sitting here with my father.
I mean, Joe Biden's implemented all over all of this.
Anyway, Dr. Ronnie Jackson, Congressman Jackson, is with us.
He is pretty outraged by all of this.
And anyway, Ronnie Jackson, Congressman Ronnie Jackson, Dr. Morani Jackson joins us now.
How are you, sir?
Hey, Sean, thank you for having me.
I'm doing fine.
Thank you.
Well, let's talk about it.
I mean, you obviously are pretty pissed off at this, but it doesn't surprise me.
I don't think it probably surprised you either.
Well, no, it's absolutely outrages me, to be honest with you.
It outrages a lot of people in the country right now.
After four years, Sean, of this weaponization, they actually took the federal government, the Biden administration did, and found every single way that they could to weaponize it against President Trump and anybody that was associated with him or anybody that shared his agenda.
And then now they roll in at the very end and they make claims that there was a political nature to this, and that's why Biden is pardoning Hunter.
It's absolutely ridiculous.
And the American people see right through it.
I think this is going to backfire on him, Sean.
I honestly do, because as was mentioned earlier, I heard Jason Smith talking about a little bit earlier.
He said, now that they don't have the FBI and the DOJ doesn't have an investigation to use as an excuse for why they can't provide emails and bank records and everything else, now they're going to have to provide that information to Congress.
And Congress may actually get access to information that they haven't had before.
And I hope that Jamie Comer and Jim, I hope they basically, in Judiciary and the Oversight Committee, Jim Jordan, I hope that they pursue this aggressively.
I mean, I know they will.
And I think that the Biden administration understands that things are about to change drastically at DOJ, and that stuff's probably about to become available anyways.
But I think it's going to lead to the implication of many other family members, including Joe Biden himself.
And I think they're going to be in a real bad spot when the dust settles on all of this.
And just like you said, this covers him until the end of this year, until December of 2024.
But if he gets drugged back before Congress and his stories don't line up or he lies to the American people like he's repeatedly done, then he's in trouble.
Well, what about Joe Biden, not as president, because we had the Supreme Court decision on presidential immunity, but what about his actions when he was vice president and his son was doing all these foreign business deals and he was a financial beneficiary, at least according to Hunter Biden in his own words.
Well, I mean, I think that's why the pardon is 10 years.
I mean, it's a blanket pardon that goes all the way back to the early days before Berezma.
And I think they know this is almost an admission on the part of the Biden crime family in my mind that there is stuff out there that we are going to find when President Trump gets back into office.
And he's going to try his best to just, well, I guess he did go back and pardon him for 10 years with a blanket pardon, knowing that there's going to be criminal activity that's going to come out and that he potentially is going to get charged with and it could bring him down.
So I think that this is, you know, Joe Biden's trying to do it to cover himself as well.
Because like you said, when you start looking into this and when you really dig into it, we already know at this point, but we're going to be able to prove without any doubt whatsoever in the very near future here when we get the DOJ and the FBI straightened out that Joe Biden benefited from all of this and that Hunter used the influence from having Joe Biden as his father as vice president to line the pockets of not just himself, but of Joe Biden, Joe Biden's brother, other family members.
The entire Biden family got rich selling the influence of the vice president at the time.
And that's a crime, obviously.
What do you make of, let's go back and Joe Biden before the Council on Foreign Relations.
It's a tape I played often.
And he brags about the fact, you know, he goes to Ukraine.
He was tasked with during the Obama administration with being in charge of Ukraine.
And he goes there with the billion dollars in loan guarantees and he says, well, you're not getting the billion.
You're not getting the billion until you fire the prosecutor.
The prosecutor is the guy that was investigating Burisma, and the prosecutor was the guy that was investigating Hunter.
And, you know, son of a bee, they did it.
Here's what he said.
I had gotten a commitment from Poroshenko and from Yatsenyuk that they would take action against the state prosecutor, and they didn't.
So they said they were walking out to the press conference.
I said, no, I said, I'm not going to, we're not going to give you the billion dollars.
They said, you have no authority.
You're not the president.
The president said, I said, call him.
I said, I'm telling you, you're not getting a billion dollars.
I said, you're not getting the billion.
I'm going to be leaving here.
I think it was, what, six hours?
I looked at leaving in six hours.
If the prosecutor's not fired, you're not getting the money.
Oh, son of a got fired.
Okay, so the guy investigating his son with zero experience in Ukraine, energy, gas, oil, had no experience whatsoever, being paid millions of dollars, being investigated.
He gets the prosecutor doing the investigation, fired, and he leverages a billion taxpayer dollars.
Why does that sound like a quid pro quo to me?
And here's the challenge for the new Congress.
Should they be investigating Joe Biden and Joe's brother and Joe's family?
And would it be wise for Joe to pardon himself and other family members if he really wants us to go away?
Well, stand by.
I think he probably will.
I think that's coming.
But, you know, this is just another example.
If that had been Donald Trump or somebody that said those things, that would have been the end of his political career right there and then.
But, you know, this is just, you know, it's no coincidence that we refer to the Biden family as the Biden crime family because we can see all the stuff that's happened that's criminal in nature.
But the way they carry themselves, they carry themselves like they're a mafia family, like they're untouchable.
And that's just his whole attitude.
Like he doesn't really care.
But, you know, I think that he will.
I think that he will go back and he will pardon other people in his family.
And I wouldn't be surprised if he provides a blanket pardon to himself for 10 years on the way out the door.
It wouldn't surprise me a bit.
But yes, absolutely.
To answer your question, Congress should be doing every single thing that we can to continue to dig into this and hold them accountable.
Because look, Sean, if we don't hold people accountable, President Trump has a lot of big plans for the country.
He's going to reform things and make things a lot better.
But in the process, people that have done what they've done in this country over the last four years, they have to be held accountable.
If there's no accountability, this will happen again.
And we can't afford as a country for any of this kind of stuff to happen again with the weaponization and some of the stuff that's gone on for the last four years.
The left will claim this is weaponization.
However, when you look at the basic, simple, fundamental facts, no experience, paid millions, Russian oligarch, Elena Batarina, Kazakhstan, Romania, Mexico, China, et cetera, and the sheer volume of money that they were making without any experience.
And then it's being distributed and given to this family member and that family member, it really is remarkable.
And I think you're right, the double standards thinks to high heaven.
With all of that said, and in the interest of justice, I think it certainly has to be investigated, and we have to get to the bottom of it.
But the second part of it is I don't want it to interfere with fixing the economy, making us energy dominant.
I don't want this to interfere at all with securing our borders, restoring law and order in small towns and big cities.
We already see the world reacting to Donald Trump's presidency.
You see little Justin in Canada.
You see Mexico reacting.
You see all over the Middle East, Hezbollah and Hamas.
The Iranians are hiding.
The Chinese have been awfully quiet.
And, you know, the world, and even Zelensky's talking about, yeah, I'd give up land in order to make this work.
Yeah, no, I don't think it'll interfere.
I think that the Republicans can do this and do the work of the people at the same time.
And that's really what the judiciary and what the Oversight Committee and committees like that, they're supposed to be doing stuff like this, like looking into things that have happened and holding people accountable.
And I think that they'll be able to do this.
And I think they have, like I said, I think they have to do this.
I'm a firm believer that if no one's held accountable and people get away with this, it's the same thing with the voter fraud that we've seen over the last few years.
As long as no one goes to jail for voter fraud, voter fraud is going to keep happening.
No one's going to care.
And it's the same kind of thing here with the weaponization of government.
As long as people that have done this don't pay a price for it, the people that fall in in the next Democratic administration will pull that out of the playbook and do the exact same thing.
It worked last time and they'll do it again.
Yeah, I mean, it really is.
And, you know, I think some of the more important things that we've got to do here is put in place measures that this type of weaponization can't happen again.
I mean, you know, Joe Biden talked about, well, this only happened to my son because of politics.
And meanwhile, he sat idly by when the statute of limitations case in New York was going on and a novel legal theory was put forward that had never been tried before.
And the third highest ranking member of the Justice Department goes out, goes to New York to help Alvin brag.
Nobody would take that kind of demotion unless you really wanted to get somebody running on a campaign of get Trump.
Alan Dershowitz wrote a book about it.
You know, they call it, you know, they stack the charges one after another.
But again, it was a legal NDA put together by an attorney and labeled the legal expense.
It should have gone away.
Then we have the whole January 6th issue.
Alan Dershowitz is out there today saying and urging Joe Biden to pardon the January 6th protesters.
Not the people that were violent, but the many people that, you know, their mistake was they went into the Capitol when they shouldn't have.
But they're getting five, 10-year sentences.
That sounds excessive to me.
Yeah, no, I agree with you, Sean.
And I think, you know, if he doesn't do that, which I doubt he will, but Trump's going to, you know, President Trump is going to do that.
They made one big miscalculation in this whole thing, Sean, and that was that they were dealing with Donald Trump.
Because to be honest with you, it didn't succeed overall.
The weaponization, all the things you just described that were directed at President Trump to try to politically kill him and get him out of the game.
None of that worked.
And the only reason it didn't work was because it was Donald Trump.
Had that been a normal presidential candidate, another politician, they would have devastated him and they would have gone away.
So just because it didn't work this time doesn't mean that they can't make it work next time if we let them get away with it.
The only reason it didn't work this time was because they were dealing with Donald Trump and he's a unique individual, as you know.
Let me play Hillary Clinton from 2008 talking about illegal immigrants.
And here's a quiz.
Who does it sound like?
I think we got to have tough conditions.
Tell people to come out of the shadows.
If they've committed a crime, deport them.
No questions asked.
They're gone.
If they've been working and are law-abiding, we should say, here are the conditions for you staying.
You have to pay a stiff fine because you came here illegally.
You have to pay back taxes.
And you have to try to learn English and you have to wait in line.
Oh, who's that sound like?
It sounds like Donald Trump in many ways.
She sounds MAGA.
She sounds MAGA.
Great way to put it.
Well, it's going to be a little difficult in the House.
Do you believe that the slim majority will hold?
Will Republicans agree on the major portions of President Trump's agenda?
I think we have to, Sean.
This is our last chance to fix this.
I think everybody knows that.
I think that there'll be people like me.
And I've always been very hesitant about calling out other Republicans if they don't agree with me on something or they don't vote The way I would vote with something like this supporting President Trump.
But I think we're going to have to get to a point, honestly, where we just have to hold each other accountable.
And if they feel like they're coming from a blue district and they won their district there and they're a Republican in a blue district and they can't do this, they can't do that.
The rest of us are just going to have to give them top cover, tell them that we'll help them when re-election comes around.
We'll make sure they keep their seat, but they got to do the right thing.
They got to vote with President Trump and they got to save this party or they got to save this country.
Congressman Ronnie Jackson, Dr. Ronnie Jackson, thank you, sir.
Appreciate it.
Quick break, right back.
We'll continue.
All right.
Remember Mika Brzezinski swearing up and down on the Liberal Joe show, the Liberal Joe and Mika show that, oh, no, no, Joe will never pardon Hunter.
He's not like Trump.
Current President of the United States has so much respect for the law that he has said he would not pardon his son.
I mean, what, you know, again, it's all about the contrast.
All about the contrast.
So, Joe, to contrast, pardons Hunter.
And I bet there are more pardons to come.
Time will tell.
And now, what is Joe, Liberal Joe and Mika, saying?
They're ripping the New York Times and other mainstream organizations for blowing the Hunter Biden pardon out of context and out of proportion.
I'm like, you got to be kidding me.
Listen.
No matter what you think of this pardon, the coverage of this is as if, I mean, you look at what has happened on the Trump side, especially if you even parallel pardons that Trump has done himself.
It's just always so, it seems so hysterically imbalanced.
I just, you know, when you read how they're covering this, you know, look at the things that are happening on the other side, it is.
Well, Dave, that's something that you're hearing.
I know you're not a media critic, but I know you've heard this complaint.
You know, the New York Times, like the top six stories online today were all about the pardon.
You looked at the Washington Post yesterday.
You expected like war is over in massive headlines.
Talk about the frustration that many Democrats are having on the New York Times, The Washington Post, The Wall Street Journal, a lot of mainstream organizations blowing this up to a size that they believe is really out of proportion given everything Donald Trump has done in the past and what he's doing right now.
Hysterically imbalanced.
That would describe the entire show and network, their show and the network that is MSDNC.
And that would be fake news CNN.
And that would be most broadcast channels when it comes to all things Donald Trump.
And the media, you know, legacy media, which I've declared dead, gone, and buried with no influence.
And that was proven in this election.
Washington Post, by the way, I'm laughing at this.
There's some idiot over there, you know, today slamming me.
Well, Hannity quotes the mainstream media.
Usually I'm making fun of them.
Or we actually do something called attribution on this program.
And if I see something, I attribute it to what the source is, even when I disagree with it or mocking it, just as a means of being accurate.
And they're wrong all the time, and we end up getting everything right.
But anyway, the media, you know, was out there telling America that Joe's not going to do it.
Listen.
And this week, of course, Hunter Biden was found guilty.
And Joe Biden has very clearly said he would not pardon his son.
He would not commute his sentence.
Current president of the United States has so much respect for the law that he has said he would not pardon his son.
He is not pardoning his son, which he could do.
These are federal charges.
He is not doing that.
That is a power.
He's a power from both of those.
He's not doing it because he is living what it means to have a rule of law in this country.
So I guess now he doesn't believe in the rule of law.
Wasn't that the pitfall of Robert Mueller, Andrew Weissman making that comment?
I think it was him.
I'm not sure.
And then we have Dan Goldman.
I love this today, confronted with his past comments that Biden wouldn't pardon Hunter.
And lo and behold, he did.
Listen to this.
Do you think a pardon for his son would be a mistake?
Yes.
And I don't think there's any chance that President Biden is going to do that, unlike his predecessor, who pardoned all of his friends and anyone who had any access to him.
And I think you see that in this case, where he kept on, and Merrick Garland kept on, a Trump-appointed U.S. attorney to investigate the president's son.
If there is not an indication of the independence of the Department of Justice beyond that, I don't know what we could look for.
When you reacted, this was when the deal had fallen through.
And I hear what you're saying about the Kash Patel appointment, but you took him at his word.
So what does that feel like, knowing that he's gone back on it?
Well, as I said, I'm disappointed that after the plea fell through and it became clear about why it did, including Republican congressional intervention in this case, which made this case very unique and very different from any other case.
I think that we all, perhaps I should have as well, recognized that this is not the normal prosecution.
I said many times that if Hunter Biden were not Hunter Biden, he would never be charged with these crimes.
Anyway, let's get to our phones.
James in Mississippi, how are you?
You're on the Sean Hannity Show.
Hey, Sean, how are you doing today, man?
I'm good, man.
What's going on?
Nothing much.
Hope you had a happy Thanksgiving and everything.
Love it.
I like a little time off.
Can't wait.
What's going on?
But yeah, I was wondering, since Kash Patel did get the FBI director spot, would it be possible for Donald Trump to tell him or anybody who he appoints to try and find something to go after the Bidens with this blanket pardon?
Look, I've talked about this publicly, and I'll repeat it again because it's so important to me.
And I just, I think that the power of the pardon can be transformational under this administration coming in.
And, you know, for example, Alice Marie Johnson is somebody that we love on this program.
And why not make her like the pardoned czar and task her with finding people in jail with excessive sentences, people who have been, have dramatically changed their lives behind bars, people like her.
She had a life sentence, one drug offense.
Donald Trump let her out and transformed that power of the presidential pardon.
And I'd give out pardons, you know, once a week at least to worthy people that people like Alice Marie Johnson can find.
And I'd focus on disparity in sentencing, which is very real.
And that's against minorities.
They've been unfairly sentenced.
For example, cocaine is cocaine to me.
I don't care if it's crack or powder, but you get a bigger sentence if it's crack versus powder cocaine.
Well, to me, it's, you know, if we're going to have laws against using cocaine, which I think we should, not for full drug legalization.
I think that would be such a danger to our society.
But, you know, I think we have to be fair in sentencing, and we're not.
Absolutely.
And I think even the pardon should extend to all the J6 people, violent or not.
Well, that's what Alan Dershowitz is urging Joe Biden to do.
You know, except for maybe the few people that were involved in violence against police or whatever.
I mean, the sentences were so over the top.
I mean, it was pretty unbelievable.
You know, five, ten years for trespassing.
I mean, that's ostensibly what happened.
And should it have happened?
No.
Should they have in place measures so it never happens again?
Yes.
I said that in real time.
I meant it.
And the people that are responsible for acting in ways that were absolutely irresponsible and law-breaking, they've got to be held accountable.
But for the people that just walked in and were taking pictures and roaming around and taking videos, did they really deserve five, 10 years in jail?
No, they did not.
And to me, it was like such a hyper-focus.
Meanwhile, we have known terrorists, cartels, illegal immigrants that are rapists, murderers, and violent criminals, and nobody paid any attention to that.
And the prioritization of this and this weaponized DOJ was just to get Trump rather than keeping all of us safe from wide open borders and those laws should have been enforced or going after traditional Catholics or going after pro-life people or going after people like Linda that dare to speak up at a school board meeting.
I mean, not that they went after her, but the point is they're going after moms and dads at school board meetings.
Anyway, my friend, appreciate the call.
Glad you're out there.
Gary in Tennessee.
Gary, how are you?
Glad you called.
Yes, I'm a big fan, Sean.
First of all, and thank you for having me on.
Thank you.
The epitome of the unmitigated gall of Biden to think that his son should be above the law of all of us.
And he just proved it by doing what he did.
He doesn't give two flips for the rest of the United States.
He never has.
I'm 77.
About four years ago, they put our food stamps down to $30.
That was Biden when he first went in office.
How can a person live on $30 a month?
That's insane.
That guy is criminal.
We know he's a criminal.
They got the money trails to him.
They got everything.
They need to figure out that he knew what he was doing when he put that pardon on his son.
He did a blanket anything he might have done, even if he don't get caught for it.
If he gets caught later, he's pardoned.
So that is just admitting that they're all criminals.
Like you said, the Biden crime family.
That's what they are.
We affectionately refer to him as the syndicate.
Now, do I think this is the end of it?
No, I think there's going to be more pardons.
I would not be surprised if Joe's brother is next and other family members are pardoned as well.
I would not be surprised if Joe ends up pardoning himself if he feels that the law is going to be enforced equally.
I don't know what the laws of treason are, but these things have to be looked into because a lot of us know what has happened over these last four years.
And I watch faithfully, and I watch your program all the time.
That was my favorite show.
But I can tell you that the laws they twisted around to say like they're the good people.
They're not virtuous in any way, in any means, you know.
And people like Obama, I remember him, he was doing the same kind of thing, all behind everybody's back, giving away billions of dollars, just like Biden.
You know, these are facts.
We all know that.
We've seen the airplanes.
We've got the video on it, right?
Yeah, well, I appreciate the call.
Thank you.
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Welcome right back more.
Your call's coming up, 800-941.
Sean, if you want to be a part of the program, Devin Nunes will join us at the top of the next hour talking about Donald Trump's pick for the FBI, Kash Patel.
He knows him well.
Trey Gowdy has come out very, very hard for him also, and many other conservatives.
But yet the media and, of course, Democrats, they don't want any Donald Trump pick to get through.
More on that and your call straight ahead as we continue.
The final hour of the Sean Hannity Show is up next.
Moving on for Sean's conservative solutions.
Now let's get back to our busy phones.
Robert, Maryland, next Sean Hannity show.
Robert, how are you?
Hey, man.
Thank you for having me.
Love the show and, you know, big fan.
And it's like.
Thank you.
It's like being in a house.
It's the only window that's open for fresh air nowadays.
Well, I appreciate it.
That's a pretty good analogy.
I need fresh air myself.
What's going on?
A couple of things.
You know, we were the whole 4B thing.
And I'm like, you know, people, you know, it's half full, half empty.
You kind of got to look at it like, well, one less liberal will ever be born.
One less abortion will ever be born.
Ouch.
Ouch.
You're going hard in the pain here.
Keep going, I guess.
Let me go.
You know, and the other part of that equation is, let's just say these women are.
Oh, liberals can have, you know, conservative children.
I mean, it probably would drive them nuts.
I mean, if my kids were liberal, it would drive me nuts.
Thank God they're not.
But they could be.
The preacher's kid syndrome.
But, you know, and the other part of it is, you know, don't flatter yourself.
If you're a store, nobody wants to shop there anyhow, if you know what I mean.
So if you're a store.
Look, I mean, the bottom line is if you're a woman, you want to shave your head and you're a woman and that's a sign of protest and you're saying no sex and you want to divorce your husband and you want to stockpile abortion pills or you want to get sterilized, which now women apparently are doing.
I believe in freedom.
That's your choice.
And I'm not sure why if you're getting sterilized or if you're not having sex, why you need to stockpile the abortion pills, but they can do whatever they want.
We live in a free country.
If you look at it from 20,000 feet, look at what they value, sex.
Nothing about moral compass or anything like that.
That's what they distill their value to.
So I wanted to mention something.
And, you know, you have to.
You've got about 20 seconds.
Make it quick.
Go ahead, sir.
I think, you know, they give all this money away to Ukraine, unchecked, free money.
I think that, you know, hopefully maybe the Trump administration can look at like forgiving a lot of the EIDL, EIDL, COVID loans, because we're basically working for the government.
We didn't shut the country down or at least make them interest-free because a lot of small businesses are being hammered by that and barely surviving because they're on the hook for that.
And it was great that it was there, but that would be a wonderful thing to look at.
We just got to get this economy humming.
And the way to do it is energy.
The way to do it is lower taxes.
The way to do it is freedom, less regulation.
And I think that's all going to happen.
I think it's going to be transformative.
I do have a lot of hope.
I really do.
Robert, appreciate you being with us.
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