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Nov. 20, 2024 - Sean Hannity Show
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Future in Ukraine - November 19th, Hour 3
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Now, usually when there is a transition and you have an outgoing president that knows that an incoming president has a very different plan on something as significant as a national security issue, that president doesn't make a bold, insane move like Joe Biden made this week.
And we are seeing this unfold when it comes to Ukraine.
It seems like they want to trap Donald Trump before he ever gets into office into having a never-ending war in Europe and one that could certainly spread far and wide if we're not careful.
And what Joe Biden and the Biden administration decided to do is to allow Ukraine to strike Russian territory with U.S.-provided missiles, and it could change the course of this war dramatically.
And the problem is, is now Vladimir Putin is responding and threatening to use nuclear weapons if Ukraine fires American missiles into Russia.
Now, unfortunately, what this has evolved into is a proxy war between the U.S. and Russia, and we're the ones providing the weaponry.
While simultaneously, we're learning from Prime Minister Netanyahu that Winkin Tony Blinken and Kamala Harris and Joe Biden have been withholding aid and weaponry from Israel.
That was attacked, the worst terror attack in their history, and they're fighting a forefront war.
They have ballistic missiles being fired out of Iran.
They have the Houdi rebels that have been firing missiles out of Yemen.
They've got Islamic Jihad and Hezbollah in the north out of Lebanon that have been attacking them.
And of course, Hamas in the south.
And this is a real battle against radical Islamic terrorism, all of it funded by the number one state sponsor, terror.
Okay, so they won't take a stand.
They don't have the moral clarity.
And I don't know what part of murder and kidnapping and rape and torture and beheadings that Harris and Biden don't seem to understand as they cater to the radical pro-Hamas wing of their party, but it is what it is.
So anyway, the Biden administration, the very Biden administration that at the very beginning of this conflict, you know, Joe Biden was talking, well, is it a minor incursion or is it a big incursion?
The same Joe Biden that told Poland they could not give Ukraine 28 MiGs that they wanted to provide Ukraine for their defense at the beginning and the onset of this conflict.
The same Joe Biden that has put handcuffs on the Ukrainians and forced them to use money a certain way, telling them what weapons they can use and can't use.
So now here we have a new incoming president, and now they're willing to escalate this to the point where Vladimir Putin is threatening nuclear weapons.
Listen to this report from ABC News.
Vladimir Putin has a new warning for the United States after President Biden authorized Ukraine to use long-range missiles supplied by the U.S. to strike inside Russia.
Chief foreign correspondent Ian Panel starts us off from Ukraine.
Good morning, Ian.
Yeah, good morning, George.
Nuclear saber rattling from the Kremlin this morning with Vladimir Putin appearing to threaten to use nuclear weapons if Ukraine fires American-made missiles into Russia.
The Kremlin saying the doctrine was updated in response to what it calls the new situation.
The new Russian policy essentially authorizes the use of nuclear weapons in response to what it calls, quote, critical threats of aggression using conventional weapons.
Now, remember, President Biden lifting restrictions on the attack on ballistic missiles, which are, of course, conventional weapons, essentially allowing them to be fired into Russia.
Putin has made nuclear threats before that have proved to be hollow.
A senior Ukrainian military source telling me this is blackmail, but also warning nuclear weapons are a Pandora's box that shouldn't be opened.
This move likely aimed as much at President-elect Trump, who's promising to end the war when he takes office, but he'll make that all the harder.
All right, pretty scary scenario.
Anyway, here to analyze how bad this is and how stupid this is and how dangerous this is.
Rebecca Koffler is with us, a strategic military intelligence analyst, author of Putin's playbook, and she served as a senior official in the Defense Intelligence Agency and worked with the CIA's National Clandestine Services.
And Horace Cooper is with us, commentator, co-chair of the Black Leadership Network Project 21, author of Put Y'all Back in Change, How Biden's Policies Harm Blacks.
And it's been a best-selling book.
Welcome both of you.
Rebecca, let's start with you.
How reckless and irresponsible and why the sudden change of heart.
The guy that wouldn't allow Poland to give MiGs, the guy that said they couldn't use cluster bombs, the guy that ordered Ukraine not to attack inside of Russia, now all of a sudden is allowing them to use American missiles to fire deep inside of Putin's Russia to escalate this war.
It's absolutely deranged behavior, Sean.
What Biden is doing is effectively putting U.S. homeland into Putin's nuclear crosshairs.
And he's doing it either deliberately or he's completely off his rocker.
Because remember, two years ago, he himself at a political fundraiser told his DMC donors that the reason why he was calibrating U.S. actions, why he was trickling down weaponry to Ukraine, is because the threat of nuclear armor yet from Putin was real and he was trying to avoid the potential of starting World War III.
Well, now it's exactly what he was doing because Putin just signed the update to Russia's nuclear doctrine, which allowed him, first of all, it lowers the nuclear threshold, right?
So he can strike right now Ukraine with nuclear weapons and he can unleash non-kinetic attacks and he's already doing it in Europe and on the United States.
That will include cyber strikes, space warfare, and other lethal things with the intelligence community itself.
Just won Biden as recently as September.
Well, the Russian Defense Ministry said earlier today that they defeated this initial attack shortly before the Kremlin updated its nuclear weapons doctrine to allow for nuclear strikes in response to foreign ballistic missile attacks.
That's a little scary.
Rebecca, I'll give you the first answer on that.
Then we'll get to our friend Horace.
Sure, absolutely.
Yes, five missiles were intercepted by Russia's air defenses, which are actually very, very robust.
One got through.
The debris fell on a military base.
And thank goodness, there were no casualties, according to Russia.
But if there were casualties, that would have been a red line.
So Putin right now, almost certainly, is brainstorming scenarios with his general staff and putting them into the programming software under which exact scenario he would actually use those weapons.
So now is the time to de-escalate.
It is exactly why he updated this doctrine because he wants to have the justification with the lower thresholds to actually go ahead and use those in the counterintuitive to the Western analyst mindset to de-escalate.
So it's basically called escalate to de-escalate strategy, and that's the strategy that President Trump revealed to the American people.
And Trump actually had a counter threat during his first term because he authorized the U.S. military to develop and deploy a nuclear-tipped sea-launched cruise missile.
And when Biden came to office, he canceled the program.
So he exposing America to all sorts of threats and starting World War III, and this needs to stop.
This is really a scary time.
I know you have to run, Rebecca.
You have another commitment.
But we do really appreciate you being with us today.
Thank you.
My friend Horace Cooper, let's go to you.
Let's get your initial reaction to this.
I think they have created an extraordinarily dangerous scenario here, which opens up the possibility of a bigger war in Europe that could impact other countries.
And that is a scary thought.
On their way out the door, there was no need to do this, especially with all the controls that Biden and Harris had put on Zelensky and Ukraine the entire war.
So let me just say this.
This administration is the just less than you need administration.
First, they did that with Americans.
American households all over the country suffered and struggled because they had just less than they need.
But they also have done this internationally.
That's been true with Israel, and it's also true in Europe.
This administration has brought us closer to the brink of war because at every step along the way, what they've done is just less than enough.
Now that the elections are over and the American people have spoken, this administration should step aside and let Mr. Trump and his team with a much more Reagan-esque strategy take place.
Remember now, Ronald Reagan was able to defeat the Soviet Union without going to war.
What this administration is doing is inching us closer and closer and closer to a conflict.
Their day is done.
The lame duck is ready to be served.
Please, please stop going in the wrong direction.
Why do you think they did this now, knowing that Donald Trump is going to be taken office on January the 20th, and his stated policy has been to put an end to this war and have a negotiated settlement and end the idea of endless wars?
Why do you think they did this?
Well, the plan is to trap this administration into pursuing the very failed policies that haven't worked on the last four years.
Let's not forget that one of the reasons that the Russian government has been acting out the way that they have on the global stage has been that Donald Trump was limited by the Russia-Russia hoax in being able to carry out his robust international strategy about developing the type of relationship with Russia that would eliminate and end these kinds
of threats.
It is not true that everything the Russians say or do is good.
In fact, most of what they say or do is the opposite of good.
But it is true that there are some domestic concerns that they have about NATO, that they have about the encroachment within their territorial areas, and that...
Well, NATO has always been a sticking point with them.
And remember, it was James Baker that famously said they would not be a part of NATO, number one.
And the other issue, I guess, territorial issue, which Donald Trump was successful in keeping at bay, has to do with the Donbass region, which happens to be a mineral-rich region of Ukraine, which is why they should be paying America for all the weaponry that Biden and Harris provided them, some $200 billion worth.
That's my thought.
But the fact is, now Vladimir Putin, clearly, 70%, I understand, of Russian nationals there, is now going to want that region and annex it like he did Crimea.
Well, that's where this looks like it's heading with the commitment that our present leader, Mr. Biden, is making.
The point here is that the answer is not this incrementalism that gets us to a point of no return.
The point is that there always was a need for a far more robust approach.
Not just Eurocentric, but globally.
We need to be sending this signal also to the Chinese government with its territorial ambitions.
What Mr. Biden has done is signaled.
If China were to invade Taiwan, we would take the same sort of incremental approach.
What we need to be doing is recognizing the president is coming in and he is likely to take a chance at negotiations, take the opportunity to let negotiations lead an end.
We are spending billions of American taxpayer funds that are only leading us closer and closer to a cataclysmic result.
That's not the right answer.
And after the American people have spoken so robustly, this administration needs to stand back.
This is reckless and irresponsible.
Should Donald Trump, in your view, speak out publicly and tell Zelensky to back off and to de-escalate and tell the same thing to Putin?
I think actually what we should have are the European leaders that should stand up.
We should have the UK, Stormer.
Have the French government, the German government, all say, wait a second.
Whatever this conflict ends up spilling out, it's going to be on our borders.
Hold on, Mr. Biden.
It's not just that when you come for a summit and we take photos, we're not going to include you in it.
When it's serious, like this particular threat, we're asking you to recalibrate.
Absolutely, the direction we're heading is the wrong one.
This administration wants to be, the incoming administration, Mr. Trump, wants to be able to sit down and negotiate an agreement that settles, resolves, and minimizes the likelihood that Russia engages in this type of predation going forward.
All right, appreciate your time and brilliance, as always.
Horace Cooper, we appreciate you being with us.
Cole free, our number is 800-941 Sean, if you want to be a part of the program.
All right, let's get to our busy telephones here.
Let's say hi to Mickey.
He's in New Joise.
What's up, Nikki in New Jersey?
What's going on in Joysey?
I moved, thankfully, from New Jersey.
I live in South Carolina.
But what I wanted to let you know is I was listening to your show yesterday when you were speaking to Mr. Baer about the Daniel Penny case and the circumstances involving the legal factors.
Since I was the New Jersey State Police, I ran the self-defense unit for 10 years.
I'm now a retired self-defense expert and witness throughout the country.
And what I am seeing is what is happening to Mr. Penny is that people, particularly in my experience in the blue states, when you use self-defense or the police use force, even on very good cases, they are being charged by the prosecutor's office criminally with manslaughter, murder, or any charges they can bring against them.
And then they are also making them defend themselves and go through the court process, which is very taxing financially and emotionally.
And I have not seen that in the red states.
I'm very active even with self-defense cases on homeowners and civilians, such as Mr. Penny.
People have repeatedly testified that were on that train in this case, in this courtroom, that their lives, they felt their life was in jeopardy.
Based on the law in New York City, you have a right.
If you believe that, if anybody believes that, you have a right to defend yourself.
What they are creating now is a scenario where the criminals have complete advantage.
This guy came into a subway car.
He threatened everybody, that he didn't care if they died, and he didn't care if he died.
And he was beginning to get hostile towards people, passengers that were on that subway train.
And Daniel Penny felt compelled to keep these people safe.
He was a good Samaritan by every definition.
Why this is even in court based on the law is one of the reasons I don't live in New York anymore because I don't feel safe.
And I had a license to carry in New York.
I surrendered that when I moved to Florida.
And I will tell you that it is sad.
Who is ever going to want to come forward?
Let's even assume that he gets a not guilty verdict in this case, which I hope.
But if they find him guilty, he's facing 19 years in jail, this kid, and his entire life is going to be ruined.
I mean, it's just a shame that he's trying to help other people and protect lives.
And this is what they do to the guy.
You know, that's why I tell people all the time about the U.S. CCA because if you're in a self-defense situation, they have an army that will get behind you of attorneys and others that are going to fight the battle for you.
And that's, I've been a proud member of the USCCA for this reason for nine years.
I mean, there's so many instances.
We saw this member.
There was the bodega guy, you know, that defended his life, and they wanted to put this guy, what was his name, Albert?
They wanted to put that guy in jail.
It's unbelievable.
That is correct.
And you're seeing that more and more.
And you're right.
When you are charged with these crimes, I tell people you need a good attorney and you're going to need a self-defense expert.
Because again, I hate to say it this way, but the blue states are the ones that are charging the civilians, the homeowners, and the police repeatedly, even when the law is on their side.
Of course, you have to take in all the totality of the circumstances.
There's many factors, but it's very difficult what they're going through, and it's very difficult to defend because it's so an interpretation, and you don't know what is going to happen in front of a jury or judge anymore.
You really don't.
I mean, everyone pray for this guy.
I think all his intentions were pure.
It's obvious that there was a real threat on that subway train, and he acted.
And I don't think anyone is ever going to want to act again.
Anyway, we appreciate you being with us, Mickey.
Thanks for what you do to keep people safe.
We appreciate it.
Sandy is in Indiana next on the Sean Hannity show.
Hey, Sandy, how are you?
Hey, how are you doing?
You're one hard to get a hold of.
You know that?
I'm sorry about that.
I'm available.
I'm here every day.
Anyway, I got five guys in my life, okay?
First one is God.
My husband, my son, my son-in-law, it's like a real son, and you.
And you're on the bottom.
I'll take fifth place with that order.
I think I'm very lucky to be included in the list.
Yeah, you're on the bottom, but you're there.
But anyway, we're on the bottom, Hannity, where you belong, but you're there.
Listen, I'm happy to be on your list.
Thank you.
Okay, you're welcome.
But anyway, there's just a couple of things I just wanted to make a comment about.
Can I ask a question?
Why does your son-in-law ranked ahead of me?
I'm just wondering.
Well, let me see.
Well, for one thing, he invited me to his wedding.
Oh, is that so?
An invitation by me to you would maybe put me in fourth place?
I needed no invitation.
You might have to fix that.
Anyway, go.
I didn't mean to interrupt.
What's on your mind?
That's fine.
That's fine.
Anyway, every now and then I think about Riley Gaines, how she is fighting, you know, her girls, you know, in their sports and all that.
And I thought, these transgenders, why don't they get their own team going and compete against each other?
But I figured, you know, they ain't got nothing.
Well, it's a great idea.
You mean, in other words, let trans athletes compete against trans athletes.
I actually suggested that in the past as well.
We have Title IX for women.
If they want to make Title 10 for trans athletes, let them have at it.
Yeah, and then when you think about it, how many of these girls that trans to wanting to be a guy, you don't see them trying to compete in men's sports?
You see, but they would claim we are discriminating against them because they identify as even though they were born, say, a biological male and they want to play in women's sports.
Caitlin Jenner said it best in an interview that we had together.
I don't really care what one's testosterone levels are when they're 20 and they're competing.
What were those levels like during puberty?
I mean, that to me is a tipping point.
But with that said, then we get into the issue of, okay, gender-affirming, quote, care and treatment, life-altering, can't go backwards, at least not with modern medicine.
And do we really want minors making life-altering decisions at such young ages when it might turn out that they regret it?
And then, of course, they want to be able to allow treatment like that, the likes of Tim Walz and out in California, Gavin Newsom, without parental consent because they want to declare that I guess the state has more power and knows better than the parents do.
I mean, it only takes common sense if a man can overpower a woman and want to rape her.
So don't that register with them?
They're going to overpower them in these sports events that they want to get into, you know, with these girls.
It's not wrong to say or state the obvious that generally speaking, there are exceptions.
I mean, there are some women fighters, UFC fighters, for example, that they would kick my behind so bad, you know, and probably could do it in under a minute because they're that strong and better trained, etc.
But generally speaking, men are physically stronger than women.
It doesn't mean men are better than women.
I mean, I would argue that there are things that women, for example, generally, there are exceptions, offer children that men don't offer children.
And I'm not just talking about breastfeeding or something like that.
I'm talking about, you know, emotional support of a mother is just something that generally speaking, and there are exceptions, I say it all the time.
It just is, they just have a natural nurturing capability.
I mean, if you even get into these discussions, I mean, it makes people's heads turn around and they projectile vomit green puke.
I mean, it's just, they can't handle a discussion about it.
Well, and, you know, and just to think, you know, when they take God out of everything, that's when everything starts falling apart.
You know, it's falling apart.
We've kicked God out of the schools.
We've kicked God out of a lot of our life.
And I think, you know, it was a great song by John Rich.
I don't know if you ever heard it.
Earth to God.
You got to watch the video.
Come in, God.
You know, because the world has gone half mad.
As a matter of fact, I'll even, do you want me to play a little bit for you?
Yeah, if you want.
All right.
Listen up.
Earth to God.
Come in, God.
I know you're there hearing our prayers wherever you are.
We need you now to send your love down.
Take away the pain in your holy name.
We ask this now.
We need your light.
We need your love to heal the world you made.
And save us now and our darkest down with your amazing grace.
to God.
Can you pull us all close to the Holy Ghost and keep us strong?
We need your light.
We need your love to heal the wound you made and save us now in our darkest town with your amazing grace.
Earth to God.
Earth to God.
By the way, isn't that a great song?
What do you think, Sandy?
Oh, it's beautiful.
Yeah, wait till you see the video.
Look up the video when you go online next time.
It's amazing.
Oh, okay.
What's the name of it again?
Earth to God.
John Rich.
Okay, John.
Oh, okay.
Okay.
All right.
But anyway, you know, to change things, I was thinking also, you've heard of these little bouncy houses that the kids like to play in?
Oh, like those.
Yeah, I'm pretty familiar with that.
Well, I think we kind of got one there.
It's called the bouncy white houses with liars in it.
Well, an awful lot of lies were told to the country in the lead up to this election.
It was almost sung in unison on legacy media, and they've been singing from the same hymnal, lying about Donald Trump, and it ended with a crescendo of Nazi fascist, racist, and we're all garbage, and it didn't work.
And as a result, I think we can accurately conclude that legacy media is dead.
I declare that at the end officially of this election season, as I predicted in 2007 and 8, the journalism is dead too.
They all claim to be journalists.
They're not journalists.
They're leftist, radical, extreme talk show hosts, and they're not honest about who they are.
Anyway, Sandy, appreciate you.
Glad you're out there.
Check in with us anytime.
Okay.
Earth to God by John Rich.
We'll even put a link on Hannity.com.
How's that?
We'll make it easy for everybody.
And I'll put it up on my social media accounts as well.
A link to the video.
You're going to love it.
All right, that's going to wrap things up for today.
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