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Nov. 5, 2024 - Sean Hannity Show
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Our final news roundup and information overload.
All right, news roundup and information overload hour.
Here's our toll-free number this election eve.
It's 800-941-SHAWN.
If you want to be a part of the program, we're going to get to Mark Halperin in just a second.
He's been very outspoken.
His coverage has been phenomenal.
He seems one of the few people out there in the mainstream media that doesn't have a bias.
I admit I'm a talk show host.
I have a point of view, but unlike everybody else that claims that they're journalists and they're objective, they're anything but if you just listen to them for two or four or five minutes, it's like, really?
You're going to call yourself a journalist?
You're not.
Yeah, you're a member of the press.
Yeah, okay, you have an opinion that makes you a talk show host.
That's fine.
Just be honest about it.
He's had this to say, which I found pretty interesting.
And I want to get his final analysis as we head into tomorrow, Election Day.
There'll be 80 to 90 million people, I would assume, voting tomorrow.
It's a big deal, and every vote's going to matter.
My suggestion is ignore the polls, even though we use them.
Ignore what others say and just do your part.
We have been given this incredible opportunity in this country to vote for the candidate of our choice.
And if you're happy with the borders, if you think we're headed in the right direction, well, then I guess you want Kamala Harris as your president.
But if you don't like defund, dismantle, reimagine no bail laws, if you don't like decriminalizing illegal immigration, then you probably want Donald Trump to be your president.
If you've been unhappy with inflation that has persisted now for four straight years and record high interest rates we haven't seen in decades, okay, then I guess you'll vote for Kamala Harris.
If you'd like to see gas prices come down, you're probably going to vote for Donald Trump.
If you'd like to see America regain respect on the world stage, I think it's a pretty obvious answer there too.
Here's Mark Halperin making comments on his show on a lot of these issues that we're facing heading into tomorrow.
Big topic today.
I've said this before.
The only thing harder than running against Donald Trump is covering Donald Trump.
Very difficult to cover him.
Okay.
Why is it difficult to cover him?
The press doesn't like him in the main.
As Jonathan Alter has said here, and others say regularly, he lies, he's cruel, he does things that no politician have ever done outside the norm.
And you can't keep up with fact-checking him.
However, the press, because they're liberally biased and because they don't like Donald Trump, they regularly do things that are wrong.
They're taking something Trump did and they're twisting it.
They do that to Kamala Harris too.
They do that to Joe Biden.
They do that to politicians.
But, you know, when I played high school basketball, my coach always told me an error in the first quarter is a mistake, a turnover, is not as bad as a turnover or a miss shot in the fourth quarter because there's less time to make up for the error.
Four days out, the press doing something unfair can have a real impact on the race.
And we've seen in the last few days extraordinary unfairness to Donald Trump.
Now, again, there are people on the left and people in the media who say, screw him.
He must be stopped at all costs.
And he lies so much.
What does it matter?
The calibration of are holding him accountable.
And what I'm here to tell you is some of the things that happened in the last few days are extraordinarily unfair.
Well, anyway, Mark Halperin joins us now.
Mark, by the way, is the editor-in-chief of this new interactive video platform, Tuai.
Sean Spicer is a part of it as well.
You're one of the few that I really can't figure out where you fall politically.
I used to think you were a little bit more left of center.
Do you have an opinion or do you just stay out of it?
I have an opinion that journalists should be unbiased for the American people.
And that when they do things that are wrong or it reflects bias, they should acknowledge it rather than pretending it didn't happen.
You mean like a firing squad for Liz Cheney when Donald Trump meant no such thing and it was obvious he meant no such thing?
That's the latest example.
And again, because it's happening at the end of a campaign, and it's just a falsehood.
And it's a falsehood driven by their resistance mentality.
There's always been liberal bias in the media.
It's unfortunate, but Republican presidents who've succeeded have found a way to work around it.
You take the normal historical liberal bias and you add in Trump derangement syndrome.
And you find things like you find the other day.
I mean, there are countless examples.
I know you know, Sean, but the vice president regularly says Donald Trump said there'd be a bloodbath if he lost the election.
It's not what he said.
And the fact that the press just lets her say it over and over again, Donald Trump tells lies over and over again, and he gets called on it.
She says that, and nobody notices.
And so part of why I think if he does win, he'll win, is I talk to people on Tui all the time who say, I don't love Trump.
I have a lot of problems with Trump.
But the bias, along with the indictments, are so antithetical to what America should be about that they're voting for Trump at a protest.
And the irony, of course, is that the people who have sacrificed their professional credibility the most are the ones out of desire, a determination to stop Donald Trump, are, just like in 2016, if he wins, going to have played one of the largest roles in helping him inadvertently because of the backlash against the unfairness.
Is it pretty unbelievable?
So since Kamala Harris got in this race, she has never been asked about her stated position on co-sponsoring the Green New Deal with Bernie Sanders and her willingness to eliminate the filibuster to achieve that.
She has never been asked about her position about government or Medicare for all, government health care for all, and the elimination of private health insurance.
I have not heard her have to answer that question.
She's never had to answer for her tweeting out a bail fund.
We had 574 riots in the summer of 2020.
She tweeted that out four days after a Minneapolis police precinct was burned to the ground and then went on CBS and said they're not going to stop rioting and they shouldn't stop rioting and I'm not going to stop supporting them.
She's never been asked about any of this.
She gave a haphazard answer on her repeated comments that she would ban fracking and offshore drilling.
I'm not sure I believe it.
She's never been asked about why she thinks it's courageous never to say the words radical Islamic terrorism or illegal alien.
I mean, it's beyond malpractice in my view.
How is it possible in 100 days she's never been asked any of those questions?
Well, the list goes on and on.
I know you were just giving a sample, but when she was asked about an issue that the Trump campaign has raised in advertising, support for government-funded operations for trans individuals who are here illegally, you know, kind of like a quadruple issue of controversy, she said, I'll follow the law.
She didn't answer that.
So part of it is when she has been asked about these things, and I think Brett and a few other of the interviewers have done a good job of trying to get her to answer.
Yeah, they gave Brett 26 minutes and they iced him.
They knew he had to turn the show around and she showed up 17 minutes late.
First words out of their mouth was, instead of 30 minutes, we want 20.
You know, you could see in his eyes they tried to wrap him at 20 and he pushed it to 26.
But I mean, and she wouldn't answer a question.
She tried to filibuster, which put him in a really difficult position of having to interrupt her because she wasn't answering the question.
I agree with all that.
But a few interviewers, however much time they've had, have tried.
She doesn't answer.
Now, has Donald Trump answered about the Affordable Care Act?
Has Donald Trump answered about how he'd stop the war in Ukraine?
He's been the difference, the difference is he was president.
The difference is he talks to the press a lot more.
And the difference is she has a track record of extremely liberal positions from her presidential campaign that the country, even if you followed it closely, would actually have no idea what she would do as president.
So I think a short campaign is going to have special rules.
But she's chosen to mostly do interviews with friendlies.
And the ones she's done, like with Brett, as you said, have been under circumstances where we can't get to the bottom of it.
And the debate, where everybody said she did such a good job and she did a great job baiting Donald Trump, was not at all revealing of her positions.
Now, I will say, if she loses, and if she loses, as some people close to the president, as you know, think she'll lose badly.
There'll be a lot of reasons for it.
And Joe Biden will get a lot of the blame, for instance, by Democrats at least.
But one of the reasons I'm quite confident from talking to voters every day on my two-way platform is she was some combination of unspecific about what she do and unconvincing that her liberal positions are actually changed.
And I think to some extent, again, I understand the frustration you feel as a partisan, and I have a comparable or parallel frustration as a journalist.
But the system may work.
In other words, part of why she'll lose is she failed to explain her positions on things in a way that voters felt comfortable to say I don't think she can, Mark, because if she does, how do you explain away, oh, never mind, I co-sponsored the Green New Deal with Bernie Sanders, and I said I'd eliminate the filibuster.
Never mind.
How do you explain away co-sponsoring Medicare for all elimination of private health insurance?
How do you expect these are recent positions?
We're not talking about 10 years ago.
Well, I mean, her sort of textbook, her boilerplate language is basically, as part of the administration, I changed my view.
But I will say, you know, I've known Kamala Harris and covered her for a long time.
I think that her Achilles heel politically is she does not like to make difficult choices under pressure.
Now, unfortunately for her, that's kind of the job description for president, and to a large extent, the job description of president of the United States, or of a presidential candidate.
But that's, I believe, why she doesn't answer these questions, because she knows the answers are hard.
She's either going to alienate the left or alienate the center.
You mean like she wouldn't answer how she voted on Prop 36 in California?
I'm sorry.
I actually have the cut.
Let me play her for you.
How did you vote on Prop 36?
So I have my ballot is on its way to California, and I'm going to trust the system that it will arrive there.
And I am not going to talk about the vote on that because honestly, it's the Sunday before the election, and I don't intend to create an endorsement one way or another around it.
But I did vote.
I mean, it's just a typical answer from her, which is a non-answer.
But, John, if you accept my prism to evaluate all of these non-answers, then I think it explains every one of them.
If she took a position on that issue, she would alienate the left or the center, and she doesn't want to do it because she does not like to make difficult choices under pressure.
And figuring out how to answer these questions is a difficult choice.
So she just chooses not to.
That produces the word salad.
It produces the evasions.
Again, President Trump is evasive about a ton of stuff, too.
But it's not costing him because people have a better sense of what he thinks.
I say to people all the time, tell me what Donald Trump would do as president, whether you like him or not.
Less regulation, lower taxes, no forever wars, some conservative cultural.
Build the wall.
Don't forget that, Mark.
That's an obvious one.
You're right.
And by the way, he's not, he, his, and Kamala's closing arguments, she's lying to people about stealing grandma and grandpa's Social Security and Medicare.
Actually, it went up under his first term.
She's lying when she says he's going to support a national abortion ban.
It's an outright lie or limit access to contraception, another lie, or IVF, another lie.
The 2020 whatever project that I don't, I don't even know what it's about.
And I'm a prominent conservative.
I have no idea.
I've never read it.
Don't know who's involved in it.
Don't care.
Want no part of it based on the little bit that I do know about it.
Liberal someone about.
Look, I left off my list of things people know about Trump is, as you said, shut down the border and also more energy production.
I asked people, even her supporters, what is she for?
It's all opposition to Trump.
It's all, she won't do projects.
Is that going to be enough?
He's a Nazi fascist.
We're all garbage.
Is that going to work?
Well, it'll be enough if four things happen.
If reproductive freedom turns out to be a bigger issue for voters than the polls suggest.
If women make up 55% of the electorate, if her turnout operation turns out to be masterful, although the early vote doesn't suggest that.
And if it turns out that basically no one else gets meaningful vote, it's just basically a two-person race.
And it turns out Donald Trump's ceiling is 48%.
If those four things happen, I believe she can get exactly 270 electoral votes, probably no more.
No one's ever won with one path to exactly 270.
Most of my sources in both parties say that's where she is.
That's where Joe Biden was on the eve of the debate.
And that's a tough thing to pull off, no margin of error, but that may be enough.
This is my analysis, and you tell me where you think I'm wrong.
And like you, I have sources that are Democrats and Republicans.
Maybe that'll surprise some people.
I, based on all the modeling, early voting, every indication, is they have a math problem for Kamala Harris, and that is early voting goals that she needed to reach, she didn't come close to reaching.
And according to everybody that I speak to in Georgia, it looks like Donald Trump's going to win Georgia.
It looks like he's going to win North Carolina.
Now, if you disagree with any of this, I want to hear it.
I'm with you.
You've reported, and my sources are saying exactly what you reported: she's in trouble.
Big trouble in Wisconsin.
Early vote is down 40%.
The election model that has been used there for 14 years has Trump up by one and a half points.
That would be the end of it.
The way I see where she is now, if Trump wins Arizona, has a shot at Nevada, although that would only get him to 268, she needs a clean sweep of the blue wall.
He needs one of the three, and he wins.
It's perfectly stated.
And again, I think any electoral college analysis here, one day out, starts with the question: do you think she'll win one of the southwestern, one of the Sunbelt states?
My sources don't.
And so if she can't win one of the three big Sunbelt states, Arizona, North Carolina, or Georgia, then she has to go three for three, and Trump has to go one for three in the Great Lakes states.
Going one for three is a lot easier than going three for three.
There's been, I think, an overemphasis on Pennsylvania.
I did it too.
I did a whole two-hour show called It's All About Pennsylvania.
But you're hearing what I'm hearing now, which is surprisingly firm confidence from Democrats and Republicans in Wisconsin that Trump will win the state.
And if she can't win a Sunbelt state and she can't win Wisconsin, it is over.
It's not sort of over.
It's over.
And as for the early vote and the early, early vote, I said, if this keeps up, we will go into election day knowing mathematically she can't win.
All right, so I'll tell you what.
On that point, I normally wouldn't hold a guest over, but I'm going to pick up mathematically where we are because I have not heard you discuss that.
And I want to ask you specifically about Pennsylvania because I have a lot of thoughts on that and about the registration shift since 2020 that nobody talks about and even a shift in Nevada as well.
Can you stick around a few more minutes?
A few more.
I've got to leave in about 10 minutes.
We'll have you out of here in less than that.
All right.
Mark Halperton is with us.
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We continue a few more minutes now with Mark Halpern is with us.
He's the editor-in-chief of this new interactive video platform, Tuway.
You had said that we may know the winner of the election before Election Day.
Today is Election Eve.
Do you think you know the winner?
It would take a lot for Kamala Harris's team, which is underperformed and get out the vote on the early vote, to come back and do better on Election Day.
They have a lead in most of the states in the early vote, but it's not as big a lead as they had in 2020.
And so we'll have to look at the final early vote numbers, but in several of these states, including Pennsylvania, it's difficult to see how she'll win.
It's not impossible, but the Democratic Party has become the early vote party, you know, accelerated by COVID.
And so how she's going to do better enough on Election Day, where we've seen so far, on early vote, which, again, is absentee ballots and in-person early voting, underperformance in the urban areas, and every one of the seven states has urban areas, overperformance by Team Trump in the rural areas, and underperformance with demographic groups that she needs to do well in.
So, for instance, in Pennsylvania, her lead is much smaller than even some Democrats told me going in it needed to be to survive the greater expected turnout by Republicans on Election Day.
Is it possible that they'll be not as good as they thought they'd be on early vote, but better on Election Day?
It's possible, but it's unlikely.
And that's why right now, based on, as we had from the early early vote to the late early vote, it's very hard to see mathematically how she's going to do this unless there's a surge to polls, which there could be.
Well, they're going to have to, based on what you're describing, what I've been saying myself in my own commentary, is that they are going to have to do something that they've never done before, and that is have the biggest day of voting ever, historic numbers, for that to be accomplished.
And I have the same data that you have, and that is the urban turnout in every single swing state, the female vote, which we've been hearing a lot about.
And you're right with your 55% number.
But then if people were so, if they were so excited to vote for Kamala, why wouldn't they have voted early?
That doesn't make sense to me.
And then we're going to expect that they'll show up on Election Day, which historically Democrats don't do.
Rural turnout, as you point out, is through the roof everywhere.
Which brings me to the question of Pennsylvania.
And you said you did a whole show on this.
One thing people have not discussed, Pennsylvania demographics have changed a lot.
Over 700,000 new Republicans.
I've not heard anybody talk about that.
Nearly 80,000 increase demographically, Republican new registrations in Nevada.
And you see similar stories around the rest of the country and swing states also.
Thoughts on that?
It's a great example of liberal bias.
If we had seen registration explosions in the Democratic direction, there'd be lots of stories trying to explain it.
And it would be attributed to a grassroots revolt against a Republican president.
Instead, we see that statistics are quite uniform.
I haven't seen anybody explain it.
But what do we know about voter registration tilting Republicans and early vote tilting Republicans?
It's some combination of grassroots enthusiasm and mechanical operation, so-called get out the vote.
The Harris people argued they had greater enthusiasm because of abortion rights and hatred for Donald Trump, and they had the better turnout operation because they had a lot of money and they've been building it for years.
Now, it's hard to say that those things are going to be true on election day because, as you said, if they're not having the mechanics to turn people out early and get them to register to vote, if they're not having the organic enthusiasm to get them to vote early, how would it be that those things would kick in on Election Day?
Well, if you were really enthusiastic, it would be incredible.
All right.
Last question, and I let you go.
What are the odds in this race for each candidate winning the Electoral College?
I don't predict.
I want to be clear.
I'm not rooting for Donald Trump.
I'm not predicting he'll win.
I think today I'm at about 60-40 or 65-35.
Mark Halperin, I do appreciate your honesty.
You know, it's amazing how many people in the mainstream media hate my guts.
Why do they hate my guts?
What do I ever do to them?
I don't have a monopoly on my kind of journalism.
I'm just trying to understand.
Something different.
I'm just, you know, just, you know, I invited Kamala.
I gave her a offered her three hours of radio and an hour on Hannity, the TV show.
I didn't even get a response.
I think I find that very disrespectful.
Just saying.
Might have gone to spam.
Yeah.
Anyway, appreciate it, Mark.
Thanks for spending the extra time with us.
800-941 Sean.
Probably went to spam.
You know, you can't make this up.
It's election Eve.
Let me go back to where we started today.
And I'm not going to stop.
For those of you that have already voted, from the bottom of my heart, I say thank you.
I know, look, I am telling my staff here, there are many that have not voted yet, that if you're in line to vote tomorrow and you cannot get to work, I am perfectly fine with you staying in line and voting.
And when I say to this audience that in spite of numbers and predictions and percentages and polls and prognostications, I don't care, put it all out of your head.
If you have one thought that I want you to have is I want it to be, especially if you're in Georgia, North Carolina, Pennsylvania, if you live in Wisconsin, Michigan, Arizona, Nevada, if you're in those states, assume that your vote will be the determining vote in this election.
I want that high degree of urgency and intensity because it's an inflection point for the country.
It simply is.
We've done our very best to do a job that nobody else in the media really cared to do, and that is tell you the truth about Kamala Harris, tell you the truth about Donald Trump, take on an establishment legacy media that has no interest in truth any longer, that is corrupt, that is abusively biased.
And they have told more lies than I've ever heard in any one campaign, and they should not be rewarded for this.
They should not.
And I would like a big, clean win, and that we will know early and that it'll be a knockout.
That's what I'm hoping for.
But the only way that can happen is of all of you realize the importance of your part.
I am one talk show host.
I have, yeah, we have a big audience.
I can reach.
I can't make any of you listen to this show.
I can't make any of you watch Hannity.
By the way, there should be laws that mandate such, but I'm kidding.
I say that, they're going to want to arrest me.
I can't make you vote.
I can only point out.
the truth.
I'm going to have my closing argument, the real Kamala Harris tonight on Hannity.
I'm asking all of you, if you haven't voted for the sake of our country, to inform yourself, go on Hannity.com, public service, the Kamala files, Wall's files.
Listen to them in their own words.
And if that's the America you want, then that's the America you choose.
I don't think most Americans agree with that.
And I'm asking.
I don't want to beg and plead, but I will if I have to.
I'll do whatever it takes.
I can't bribe anybody.
That's illegal.
I would never do that.
I always tell people, let's follow the law.
But I ask you all to please think about your children, your grandchildren.
I've laid out every radical, extreme position and statement she's ever made.
You can listen to it all.
It's on Hannity.com.
Thank you for those of you that have voted.
I know tomorrow might be a hassle for some of you.
You might have to spend a couple hours online, maybe more than a couple hours.
By the way, if you are in line before the polls close, you get to vote by law.
That's my understanding in all 50 states.
All right.
So please, there's a lot at stake here.
There really is.
I care about our kids.
You know what?
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My life ended today.
I would say, God, I didn't deserve any of it.
I want a better life for you and your kids and your grandkids.
And I want to leave this country in a better place.
And I believe that these two competing visions, one is going to be successful and one will be an abysmal failure, predictable failure.
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All right, let's get to our busy telephones here.
Let's say hi, big time AJ, Houston, Texas.
What's going on, baby?
Not our first rodeo, big time.
Big time, Sean Hannity.
Hey, you know it ain't, and we're going to take it in the landslide.
That's my prediction.
All right, stop right there.
Hey.
I'm not putting up with that prediction.
I'll tell you, no, I don't want people to feel that way.
Because I don't think it's true.
And I want Americans to realize in these states, these polls are close.
I'm not saying I trust pollsters, but I'm saying to assume the worst and assume that your vote's the deciding vote.
But I love you.
You know that.
I know.
But, Sean, I got to go with it.
After they did what they did last one, and we know this should be our third term around.
I'm just saying.
That's me, Sean.
But hey, I got a funny feeling that we gonna make it this time.
Even with the already chief, look at you see where they burnt up the ballots.
Hey, let me ask you something.
Them ballots that got burnt up.
Now, how talking about it in, I think, Oregon and yeah, yeah.
We talked about it last week.
How are they going to figure that out?
Now, what they how they don't know how they figure it out.
You know what?
I don't, I will tell you this, and I do have a whole pile of stuff I didn't get to today, but every challenge, the good news is this, there's hundreds and hundreds of lawyers all around the country for Trump, and they've been challenging these issues in court, and they've been winning almost all of them.
You know, and that's the key to me: you know, if you see, if any of you see anything that is inappropriate or you think is against the law, inform the RNC, get in touch with their lawyers.
It's not hard to do.
Reach out to your local Republican Party, and I would go about it the proper way.
Tell law enforcement, tell election officials in your county, be kind, be respectful, be polite.
That's my advice.
Now, hey, last one.
I just seen last week where they supposed to have somebody with you when you pick up the ballots.
Okay, they're supposed to have two people with you when they do the ballots on the opposite side, I guess.
Are you talking about ballot harvesting?
Yeah, pretty much that's what it is.
And they grab them out the box, right?
And there wasn't nobody with the guy.
And he grabbed them, put them in a deal.
He's supposed to count them when he takes them out.
We didn't see that on the video.
I guess these people don't see that there's a video camera around them boxes, evidently, and they don't pay attention to them.
But we're going to see, Sean, and God bless America because we're going to need it this time.
And like you said, everybody, because I'm going tomorrow morning to vote, I always bring up the back door.
I always, you know, I always told you I vote on that day.
So everybody that hasn't voted, get out there, stand in that line.
Don't take no crap.
Wait for your time.
Get in there and do your due jillions.
And let's make America great again, baby, so we can keep this beautiful country of ours going without all them lying knuckleheads that's on that Democrat side taking us down to the knock.
Just don't call them garbage or what did Kathy Hochul say?
I mean, I actually couldn't believe these words.
She said that you're anti-American.
These Republicans in New York, you are voting for someone who supports Donald Trump and you're anti-woman, you're anti-abortion, and basically you're anti-American because you have just trashed American values and what our country is all about over and over and over.
And you'll wear this on election day.
I don't know.
Big time, I'm praying.
I'm hoping.
I believe in the good Lord, and I just want everybody to do their part.
This will be my last show before the polls open tomorrow.
And I'm urging all of you, make time in your day.
If you have to get up early and get to the polls when they open, maybe the line will be shorter.
Do it in the morning.
Do it after work.
Fine.
Go to the bathroom and be prepared to be there as long as you need to stay.
Make arrangements for child care.
Work with your neighbors.
Help others get to the polls.
Those are all things that people can do.
But don't assume for a second that this election is in the bag.
800-941-Shauna's on number if you want to be a part of the program.
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