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Matt Towery - October 3rd, Hour 2
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If you want to be a part of the program, we have multiple disasters unfolding for Kamala Harris and her campaign, not the least of which is the disastrous debate performance of Tim Walz.
Now we have Kamala's Katrina that is emerging as a massive scandal as the as Harris announces storm victims in Georgia and in North Carolina and in Tennessee and other parts of the South that have been hit so hard are only going to get a you know a measly $750 one-time payment from the agency and Secretary Mayorkis,
Department of Homeland Security, warning that FEMA doesn't have enough funding to last through hurricane season.
And what's infuriating is now that we have discovered where the money has gone, they took more than a billion tax dollars from FEMA and allocated that money responsible for American disaster relief.
And they used it for the 11.5 million unvetted Harris Biden illegal immigrants by giving them a whopping or taking out of FEMA, whopping $364 million in fiscal year 2023, $650 million for fiscal year 2024, you know, to shelter and service, you know, people that didn't respect our laws, our border, our sovereignty.
And, you know, on top of that, then we have the Elon Musk question.
You know, their vengeance against Elon had likely could have played a role in saving lives, especially in North Carolina and some of the hardest hit areas.
That is becoming a big issue.
On top of that, then we have the emerging scandal involving the husband of Kamala Harris.
Serious accusations have been made.
They're in the Daily Mail.
They're in the New York Post that has come out.
And then Kamala's own words are now beginning to come back to bite her on the issue of domestic violence, which he said, you know, claims that, you know, we need to believe women who are survivors of assault.
And now this is becoming a bigger scandal by the hour.
We have a porch strike that is literally going to cripple the entire east coast of the United States.
And her answer is to go out and support, you know, rather than find a solution to support the people that are striking.
They've been offered a 50% increase.
I'm not saying that's the right number.
I don't know what the numbers are.
I want workers treated fairly, but it's certainly not an answer to just take one side and just get out of the way and act like that's a solution.
That's not a solution at all.
You have the Middle East on the brink of war right now.
You know, we see a Michigan poll showing Donald Trump up by one now.
And then you see, you know, like the Cook report has a dead even.
But then when I look at the pollsters that have a great history, like Atlas and Insider Advantage, which is Matt Towery, and Trafalgar, which is Robert Cahale, and John McLaughlin and Rasmussen, it's a very different story.
In Michigan, Trafalgar has Donald Trump up by two points, 47.45.
North Carolina, 49.49, according to the Cook report, which is interesting.
But then other North Carolina polls, even the Washington Post has Trump up by two.
Emerson has Trump up by one.
Quinnipiak has Trump up by one.
Insider Advantage, Matt Towery has him up by one.
And shockingly, Quinnipiak has Trump up by five in Georgia, which is a very important must-win state.
In Pennsylvania, the polls do look good for Donald Trump, albeit a very close race.
Emerson has a three-point lead for Trump.
Remington has a one-point lead for Donald Trump.
Remington has Wisconsin tied with Trump and Harris.
Insider Advantage out in Arizona has Trump up by one.
In Nevada, Trump is up by one Insider Advantage.
And the list goes on and on and on.
North Carolina, there's an East Carolina University poll that has Trump up by two.
Trafalgar in Pennsylvania has Trump up by three.
Atlas has Trump up by three.
And the list goes on.
Anyway, here to try to make sense of it all.
As far as I'm concerned, these polls should not affect how you look at this race at all because you're going to go up and down emotionally like a roller coaster.
And I think you've really got to focus in on what you can do.
I mean, if you view this, as I do, as an inflection point for the country, if we're getting a window into how disastrous a Kamala Harris presidency would be if it wasn't bad enough the last four years, then, you know, these crises that we're currently dealing with, she has no clue how to deal with any of them.
The fact that they took all this money away from FEMA, gave it to the illegal immigrants, and they want to provide free housing, food, health care, education, legal driver's licenses, free college, sex change operations, and a path to citizenship, better known as amnesty.
It ought to be a window into what the future would look like.
Anyway, here to break it all down and analyze where we are.
Matt Towery, pollster, Insider Advantage and Polling Plus.
John McLaughlin, founder, McLaughlin and Associates.
Thank you both for being with us.
Matt, start with you.
I think you have a cascading impact now happening as the Harris-Biden administration is clueless on how to deal with any of these major crises that are emerging before their eyes.
Well, Sean, what's amazing about all of this is that, wow, all this is unfolding.
And wow, there was a terrible debate for their nominee, Walt, and a great debate by JD Vance.
Everything's moving against the Democrats.
But let me tell you what's not.
The forecasting models, the things that the pointy-headed folks in New York and D.C. look at and talk about all day long.
I've watched those, and they keep saying, well, Harris is gaining a little bit.
She's got a big lead.
And they base it off of the polls.
Now, here's the problem with that.
And I want to answer your question, but I want your audience to know this.
Do not pay attention to these forecasting groups because they don't know what they're doing.
They've been wrong two presidential cycles in a row.
Now there are two of them that have split off.
So now there's a chance for two of them to be wrong a third time.
Let me give you an example.
In Michigan, they have Michigan going to Harris.
The new polls in Michigan, which you just mentioned, have Trump up by one and by two.
The polls they rely on are two weeks or a week and a half old to say that she's gaining momentum.
In Pennsylvania, they have Pennsylvania going for Harris.
But the last two polls, the freshest polls we have, Emerson, it's a tie.
Trafalgar, Trump's up by three.
And I'll get one other example.
You just mentioned Wisconsin.
Trafalgar has it up by one.
The New York Times has it up, Harris up by two.
But then Atlas, which had a very good record last time, had Trump up by two.
But none of those are fresh other than the Trafalgar poll.
There is momentum for Trump that has been developing.
And I'll add one other thing.
Both Insider Advantage and Trafalgar ask people a question.
We ask them, okay, once you've told us how you're going to vote, how do you think the majority of your neighbors are going to vote?
Do you know in all of those states, say maybe one, Trump's numbers explode?
In other words, people say they might be voting for Harris, but they think their neighborhood's going to vote for Trump.
That's the shy Trump voter.
So I think right now he's outperforming himself in the real quick politics average from 2020 and 2016, both in terms of battlegrounds.
By the way, he's outperforming where he was at this time before those two elections.
And we'll know in a week and a half or so what early voting is beginning to look like in terms of return ballots in a lot of these states.
So we'll start getting a little insight into that.
But you're right, he's outperforming.
And that question that you ask is not an insignificant one.
How do you think your neighbors are going to vote?
And that kind of exposes some of the hidden Trump vote because Trump supporters, a lot of them, are just not going to answer a pollster.
And you're a pollster.
So you know what I mean by that?
They're afraid to answer it because so much happens to Donald Trump and people around him that they don't want to be on the list.
They're worried about telling people they support Trump.
People are afraid to put a Trump son in their yard.
And so I don't understand where these prognosticators are coming from, but it is not rooted in reality.
Let's get your take, John McLaughlin, and especially with these emerging crises.
I mean, the fact that they gave all those money to illegal immigrants and don't have the ability to help the people in North Carolina, Georgia, Tennessee, Florida, and these other states is unfathomable to me.
Right.
And we're trying to poll in those states, and we know that people need help right now.
And the western part of North Carolina, I mean, there's still people cut off from civilization.
They have to send helicopters in to help people.
And Joe Biden and the national media, you compare this coverage to what they do with Katrina or Sandy to help Obama.
You can't compare.
I mean, they're trying to not cover this.
I would argue based on what we now know, and I haven't even mentioned the Harris-Biden-FEMA emergency response blueprint goals.
Goal one, instill equity as a foundation of emergency management.
Goal two, lead a whole of the community in climate resistance.
Joe Biden, I wanted to puke yesterday when he mentioned climate change.
Meanwhile, people, we don't even know if they're alive or dead in North Carolina in certain areas because they've had no communications.
Goal three is straight out of DEI, promoting and sustaining a ready FEMA and a prepared nation.
I mean, these are bumper stickers and slogans.
And Majorca's warning, we don't have enough funding to get through the hurricane season.
And then I'll add one other little factor here that I think is very important.
Starlink, and by the way, this happened because of Elon Musk's call that he got from Donald Trump.
And had the FCC not illegally revoked the SpaceX Starlink award he put out, it would probably have saved lives in North Carolina.
Wow.
Yep.
And going back to the big picture, though, what's good about the national, I mean, and by the way, when you get Brian Kemp and Donald Trump agreeing that Joe Biden and Kamala Harris have not done enough to help the people of Georgia and North Carolina and Florida, I mean, that is common ground where there's just sheer anger in America.
They're proving that we don't want another four years of Kamala Harris and Biden-style policies because it's not working because you've got this, they can't handle a hurricane.
They can't handle a shortage because they're causing a shortage now with this longshoreman strike.
And then they can't even stop Iran from attacking Israel, our closest ally in the Middle East.
And so, you know, if you want four more years of this, it'll be disaster.
But the American people are seeing this.
And Matt already cited in the polls four years ago, or eight, let's go eight years ago.
Remember, there was a Hillary lock?
At this point in time, on October 3rd, Hillary was leading Donald Trump in the national polls, 48.45, but it got worse.
We were down seven on October 18th.
On Election Day, remember, I'm on your show saying that Trump's going to win and it's going to be really close.
And instead, they're saying it's a Hillary Locke.
And she was ahead on Election Day, and she was ahead in the exit polls.
And there were some real gems, like CBS had us down 51.40 on October 16th.
On November 6th, right before the election, NBC had us down 51.44 in the national popular vote.
And in 2020, it was worse, the Biden blue wave.
They had us trailing at this point 50 to 43.
We're at worst tide in the national polls.
And that means in the Battleground states, we're ahead.
Close, but ahead.
Matt's polls are very accurate.
But October 11th, they had a stand against Biden 52 to 42 in 2020.
In 2020, they had us down on October 31st on Halloween.
We were down 52.42.
On November 2nd, they had economist YouGov, they had Biden leaning by 10 points, 53.43.
We're not going to be sandbagged by these bad polls anymore.
The Trump voters are going to go out, and you said in October, they'll start voting when early voting happens in person.
They'll get online and they'll start voting because we can't have another four years like the last four years.
We continue with Matt Towery and John McLaughlin.
There's a New York Post article, Governor Brian Kemp of Georgia's furious.
They only declared an emergency in 11 counties.
He asked for 90, and they went up to 30.
I mean, why wouldn't they listen to the people on the ground considering they haven't been there in a week, Matt?
Well, let me actually play Brian Kemp.
Listen.
I feel like it was important for people to see and for me to see directly what they're dealing with because that gives them a sense of hope.
I think that's some of the frustration when the first emergency declarations came down.
There was only 11 counties in that.
A lot of people were outraged, including me, because there was such devastation in up to 90 counties.
We only have a minute, but I'm going to hold you guys past the break.
But you know Georgia as well as anybody, Matt Towery.
I mean, that's a disgrace.
The governor's on the ground.
They haven't been anywhere near the ground.
Yeah, people tell me they haven't seen a sign of anyone from FEMA.
They haven't seen that.
Now, they've seen some of this in downtown.
FEMA doesn't have any money, Matt.
They gave it to Hiras Biden, the illegals.
Exactly.
And Sean, let me just say one other thing.
We'll get back on this after the break.
But not only is it this life or death situation, I'm a pollster about elections.
Where is the hue and cry from these elected officials saying we're going to protect democracy by making sure these people have an ability to vote in Georgia, in Augusta, going up to North Carolina?
How are they going to get these people to vote?
Because right now, about 80% of the swap of this storm affected Republican areas, not Democratic, other than downtown Augusta and Asheville.
All right, we've got to take a break.
We'll come back.
We'll continue with our pollsters.
Matt Towery and John McLaughlin, 800-941-Sean, 33 days till election day, early voting.
We have, as a public service, when how you can register, when early voting starts and stops, et cetera.
All the information you need about Kamala Harris and Tim Walz is up there as well.
Again, a public service.
Anyway, we continue with Matt Towery, Insider Advantage, Polster, and John McLaughlin, McLaughlin and Associates.
We now have multiple scandals, frankly, emerging.
And if you want to see utter incompetence on display, this is it.
I mean, it's now been a full week since this hurricane hit landfall and has created all of this devastation.
And most people that I talk to in Georgia, North Carolina, even here in Florida, where I live, and people in Tennessee that I know, they've been devastated.
I mean, and there's so much behind this.
Now we have our Secretary of the Department of Homeland Security, Maorca, saying, well, FEMA doesn't have enough funding to last through the hurricane season.
And then you have Kamala Harris and Joe Biden offering a mere $750 one-time payment.
That's not going to help anybody.
And to add, you know, insult to injury, now we're finding out in the last two years alone that the FEMA fund that is designed and dedicated to provide humanitarian services to Americans and disaster relief for Americans was being allocated to Harris Biden unvetted illegal immigrants.
So they don't have any money.
They're out of money.
And then on top of it, I'll add one other thing to this, is had the FCC not illegally revoked the SpaceX Starlink award, it would have probably, you know, according to many people, it could have possibly saved lives.
And Biden said he redirected, you know, for the development of Starlink satellites.
And meanwhile, if it's not for Elon Musk, there wouldn't be any communications in a lot of these states and a lot of these areas.
Donald Trump is the one that called him and said, hey, will you please send these Starlink capability into these towns?
And he's done it.
And he's doing it.
And any other place that needs it, he's pledged to send it.
And they're providing generators thanks to Franklin Graham and Samaritan's Purse.
I made a donation of Samaritan's Purse this week.
I hope many of you will consider it.
It's SamaritansPurse.org.
On top of that, we've got a port strike.
You know, we're going to have a real shortage of pretty much everything.
And in these states, Florida, Georgia, North Carolina, they're going to have a shortage of being able to rebuild.
They're not going to have the bare necessities.
Add to that the accusations now that are front and center as it relates to Kamala Harris's husband and allegations that the Daily Mail has made, picked up by the New York Post today, and that they've yet to respond to, that he, you know, slapped an ex-girlfriend on top of everything else that he'd been involved in in his own personal life.
I mean, it's pretty unbelievable, to be honest.
And then Harris's past domestic violence statements are coming back to haunt her.
But anyway, new accusations come as we learn that Doug Emhoff's first marriage ended after he impregnated the nanny on top of, you know, nobody's talked about that much either.
I try to stay out of people's personal lives, but if you're going to take a strong position against domestic violence and, quote, believe women and women should be believed, whether something's proved or not, I'm just following Kamala's standard.
I have no idea what's true or not true here.
Then we've got the Middle East exploding before our eyes and Joe and Kamala are telling Israel, you know, not to not to preemptively strike back.
It wouldn't be preemptive.
They would be defending themselves from the 200 ballistic missiles that were fired into Israel this week.
And they're saying, oh, don't take out their nuclear sites.
Why?
So the idiots, the mullahs in Iran that they helped make rich because they turned a blind eye to sanctions and gave sanction waivers to that empowered them, emboldened them to buy more weapons and fund their proxy wars around not only the Middle East, but the world.
The number one state sponsor is terror.
And if Israel feels that it's in their national interest and self-defense interest to take out their nuclear sites, my answer is go win your war against radical Islamic terrorism, which of course is a word that Kamala Harris refuses to use and wants you all to be courageous like her and not use it or not use the word illegal alien.
I'm getting off on my high horse here, but we continue with pollsters, Matt Towery and John McLaughlin.
This is an awful lot 33 days before an election of incompetence on display.
I've got to wonder, and we'll start with you, Matt.
You know, what are the odds this is going to impact this election as people now are going out to vote?
Well, I'll give you two sides.
One side is if it unfolds as we're thinking and the shortages really develop, the effect.
I mean, look, the incumbent always catches hell for this, one way or another.
Now, in this case, if this were a Republican president like Bush.
Well, you can call this Kamala's Katrina.
Right, but the media won't do it yet.
I was about to say, most of the media in this country are ignoring that.
In fact, I'm looking at ABC right now.
They talk about the death poll reaching 200, and they say, Biden and Harris, does it Hurricane Helene ravage Southeast?
Nothing about Brian Kipp.
Nothing at what he said.
Nothing about the other issues that are taking place.
The rejection of Elon's system, his Starlink system.
None of that's out there.
But at some point, the media has to start reporting this stuff.
You've got 30 days of chaos ahead of us.
And I just, I'll start with what I started with this entire program with.
You're being fed disingenuous evaluation of polling.
You're being told things that aren't true.
And the things that are true, you're not being told.
And so the voters have to figure out through that.
One last thing.
I'm going to go back to this again.
I want to know where the Secretary of State in Georgia and Secretary of State in North Carolina and the governors in those states working with them, what plan they have, because the states control voting.
What are they going to do to make sure these poor people are able to tell America how they want to lead this country?
You already know the answer.
They're offering them one-time payment of $750, which is going to last them a week, maybe a week and a half.
Let me go down on the ground in North Carolina.
I've got residents.
They haven't seen a single federal agency in a week.
Listen to this.
We haven't seen FEMA.
We haven't seen Red Cross.
We haven't seen Harvard Swift Hands.
We've seen no agencies count through here.
Most people drive through with their cameras out, filming us like we're animals in a zoo and don't stop.
When we heard that Biden was just going to be, you know, flying around, it kind of just made us feel like, you know, as our president, you know, where is that like guidance where like, you know, you're supposed to be kind of here helping us with this?
And just almost like it's like almost a sense of abandonment, you know, and like I said, you know, it's mainly just the community coming together and helping each other out with all of this.
Do you think the government is doing enough?
Honestly, I don't know how you did not have a formal, a formal press conference or something from either President Biden or Kamala Harris.
I mean, how do you not say anything for four days?
They've been stranded for four days.
And this is the first we've heard from them at all.
FEMA is not on the ground there at all.
They are not in these cities, not in these towns and not in these villages.
And they don't have the money.
Now, let's take a trip down memory lane, and then we'll get back to John and Matt.
Let's listen to the two days after Katrina.
Two days, George W. Bush decided that if he were to go on the ground, it would have been a distraction.
It would have hurt the recovery efforts and not helped in any way.
So he took Air Force One and he flew over the territory.
It's been a week now.
But we still can't account for many people because you can't get to them in some of these areas and more rural parts of Georgia, North Carolina.
Can't get to them.
And this is how the media and radical leftist Democrats were responding two days after Katrina hit and the levees broke.
I believe that we can charge the government with criminal neglect of the people of New Orleans, Louisiana, Mississippi, and Louisiana in particular.
And if there were ever any evidence needed as to why we need a hands-on president, all we have to do is think back to what happened along the Gulf Coast.
You know, that was a natural disaster that was turned into a national disgrace.
The incompetence, the indifference, the insensitivity.
I think the administration got embarrassed with the response that Hurricane Katrina, they were embarrassed.
And unacceptable here, sadly, leads to people dying and people being harmed.
Hopefully the president, as we speak, is in somewhere in Mississippi, I guess, right now.
And the fact is that hopefully he will, you know, as I've said many times, synchronize his conduct with his conscience.
I mean, John McLaughlin, it's unbelievable to me, the double standard.
$750.
They're running out of money.
They don't have, God forbid, another hurricane hits.
And they've been totally tone deaf and MIA the entire time, and it's a week later.
By the way, this is one of the most important shows I've ever been on with you before because you're getting this information out that the mainstream medias, whether it's CBS, ABC, NBC, CNN, they're not getting this out.
And they're, you know, like you heard, you know, Senator Vance talk about censorship.
You heard Bobby Kennedy when he endorsed President Trump talking about censorship.
There's censorship going on and bias right now where the media won't cover it if it's bad for Kamala Harris.
I mean, she might have to go out and hold a press conference and talk to real people who are really upset about the lack of...
Yeah, don't hold your breath.
Yeah, I mean, but they won't let it happen.
And you've got millions, tens of millions of listeners who will hear this, and they know most people in America have friends or family that are in Florida, Georgia, or North Carolina, and they're hearing the stories.
And then you're hearing stories about like Congressman Pete King, his daughter, Erin, has moved to the Charlotte area.
Her and her daughter are going over to volunteer to help people not too far from them in Western North Carolina.
That's Mark Meadow's old district that we used to poll in.
And, you know, there's people there still stranded.
No phones, no water, no electricity, and they don't know when it's going to go back on.
And what you've done with Franklin Graham, what President Trump has done with President Trump, he's making an issue of it today that they have spent more money, billions, hundreds of billions more on illegal immigrants in Ukraine than they have on Americans.
And, you know, this has to end.
We can't have this going on for four more years.
It's absolutely catastrophic.
And, you know, Harris, like you said, you know, she should be there holding a press conference talking to people about what she's going to do to help them because they're in dire straits and this is worse than Katrina and it's worse than certainly worse than Sandy.
And a lot of us live through that.
All right, quick break.
Board with John McLaughlin and Matt Towery, our pollsters, and we'll get to your calls coming up in the final hour of the program, 800-941-Sean, as we continue.
All right, we continue.
Final moments with our pollsters, Matt Towery and John McLaughlin.
And, you know, if you look at the information may not be getting out, I know for a fact because people have called this program, they pulled out their old transistor radios, Matt Towery, and they're getting information from shows like this.
And the second thing I know that is a fact is that her radicalism, he has been able to hide it.
And I've gone over that list a thousand times.
And except for ads and except for people like me and a few others, nobody in the media reports it.
Yeah, and I want to mention John because John did a poll about a month ago to quantify how many people don't know the various issues and events that are taking place because the media will not tell them.
The other thing I want to say, two other things I want to say.
Okay, so I'm sitting in St. Petersburg, Florida.
On my street, half the houses have all of their belongings outside.
The houses are being stripped down to nothing because they were flooded.
Now, we don't need it here, but do you think we've seen any sign of the federal government in this city?
I've not seen a thing whatsoever.
The second thing I want to say, when we go back to this election.
Well, the only thing Ron DeSantis did is pre-position 30,000 trucks to get electricity back up and emergency supplies to people.
That's better than what the federal government did.
And by the way, Matt did lose two cars in the process.
I'm sorry.
I'm really sorry about that.
If you go into my cars again, thank you so much.
I got to say, though, very quickly, one other thing.
Well, in fairness to Matt, he was just happy his house was okay.
So he's like, I can get a new car.
Thank you for putting that in perspective, Sean.
So anyway, I want to point out, bring us back to the election very quickly because I want you to remember I said this on election night, okay?
Georgia and North Carolina, polling places.
I just read 40 polling places plus have been wiped out in Richmond County, big Democratic rich area, okay?
Columbia County, big Republican area in Augusta.
No electricity, nothing at all.
Western North Carolina, the breadbasket of Republican vote in North Carolina.
What two states are necessary for Donald Trump to win?
We've got to win North Carolina in almost any scenario.
And Georgia is pretty important as well.
We are looking at chaos that is going to unfold in this election.
I'm predicting it right now because of this hurricane, the poor response to chaos one more time.
I can tell you people are furious.
And I'm going to tell you, they're going to find a way to vote.
They have to.
I mean, we can't live through this again.
Anyway, Matt Towery, thank you.
And I am sorry about your cars.
I am glad you're okay.
And I am praying for your neighbors like we're praying for the people in Georgia, North Carolina, and affected areas.
And we appreciate everything, John McLaughlin, as well.
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