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Vivek Ramaswamy - September 24th, Hour 2
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Sean, if you want to be a part of the program, joining us now, former presidential candidate in his own right, successful businessman.
He wrote a new book, by the way, called Truths, The Future of America First.
Uh, Vivek Ramaswamy is with us.
Uh Mr. Ramaswamy, sir, how are you?
Good to talk to you, Sean.
How you been?
I'm good.
So a lot of pressure.
Uh here we go.
I mean, if we look back at the last couple of elections, I don't think it could have been any tighter.
What?
In 2020, three states, 44,000 votes, 2016.
You know, we're at 76,000 votes.
I mean, and you know, in 2020, for example, uh over a hundred and sixty million Americans voted, and this is what it comes down to.
Um, I look at the polls, I study them as much as anybody.
Uh there are some polls I trust more than others, but uh by every indication we are in for a very tight race, and this is a very divided country.
How do you see things?
It's a deeply competitive race all the way through the finish line.
So I'm doing two things, Sean.
I mean, I'm traveling to the swing states.
I actually went to the University of Pittsburgh last week, for example, and going to the college campus is an interesting place to try to register voters, reach them with arguments they may not be hearing in their environment.
I'm doing a solo rally myself in uh in Wisconsin for the Trump campaign uh tomorrow night on Wednesday, so that's that's a ground effort that we're seeing on our side pick up, and I think other people, you know, on our side are doing things like this in the swing states across the country.
The other thing though is I think when it comes to our core methods, beyond just the tactics, the real question is we gotta answer who we are and what we stand for, not just what we're against.
We made that mistake in 2022.
That's also why I was keen.
I I did write this book.
You mentioned that's come out today, actually, but I was keen for it to come out before the election because I intend this book to be something of a warning call, an alarm bell that says, you know what?
We were promised a red wave in 22, it didn't come.
We are right now at risk of the same thing happening in 24, unless we wake up and level up and say it's our job to say we're not just against the Biden administration or the Harris administration.
We're also for the individual, family, nation, and God.
We're for sealing the border, for growing the economy, for staying out of World War III, for reviving national pride in our country.
The more we're actually focusing on our own agenda, the more likely we are to win this election decisively.
And that's what I care about.
You know, we always go back and forth over the issue, and I agree completely that you've got to lay out your vision for how America will be better off, and I think one of the advantages Trump has, and maybe he hasn't used it enough in that is America knows Donald Trump.
He's not hiding like Kamala Harris.
What is really frustrating to me, Vivek is and I've got we're we know each other on a personal basis.
I don't I hope you don't mind I say that.
Yeah.
Um we're friends.
But you know, and and we are become friends, and I've come to respect you a lot, and I know how hard you're working on behalf of the country.
I think you understand the time that we're living in and how this is an inflection point for the country.
And I think there's a balancing act.
I I feel like we have a candidate that is in the witness protection program.
He's protected by powerful institutions, including big tech, the the most corrupt, abusively biased state-run media problem.
Uh I think then, of course, you've got you know cinder blocks on the scales of an election when the deep state is involved.
I mean the DOJ wants to drop you know the January 6th case on Thursday of this week, just their arguments on Donald Trump 40 days out of an election.
You you tell me, does that not go against Justice Department policy uh and pass precedent?
And this is this is like, you know, what what is it it reminds me of the fifty-one former Intel officials in 2020 that knew nothing about Hunter's laptop, never examined it, but were certain that it was likely Russian disinformation.
See, the one thing I will say now is Sean is our population, our citizenry, our country is now trained to be skeptical.
Right?
They were told COVID did not start in a lab in China before now we know that it did.
They were told the Hunter Biden laptop story was Russian disinformation.
When in fact that was the disinformation that Hunter Biden laptop story was real.
We know about the Russia collusion hoax in the 2016 election.
So I think people have gotten now a healthy dose of skepticism.
But the question is how do we seek the truth on our own?
I think it comes through more speech, not less speech, not through censorship, but through free speech and open debate.
And you know, that's one of the one of the themes I really hit hard in this book, and it's part of why, you know, I mean, I've written many books, you have too, Sean, so I'm not in this to sort of push my own narrative or book, but I think that the message is contained in this, and it's why after I left the campaign, I was so intent to at least deliver this message before the election, and that's why I wanted frankly your audience in particular is uh is a tuned audience.
They know what's going on in the country, they're awake, they don't have their eyes shut.
That's the audience I want to re have read this book, because it's not just us that we need.
We need the foot soldiers, the people who are listening to this right now to convert, or at least converse with the people on the other side, armed with the right arguments.
I'm on the most contentious topics, climate change, the kind of kind of topic you're not supposed to actually debate in the open, transgender ideology.
One of the things that I'm aiming to do, and I'm trying to do it through this book as well that's out today, is really just give people the toolkit and the arguments that they're able to bring to the dinner table with their family members, with their kids, with their friends.
And I do I think there's going to be a lot of turkey legs thrown if you start talking about uh feminine h hygiene products and boys' bathrooms and schools, or the idea in Minnesota or California that you can have gender affirming care without any parental consent.
Uh I think if you bring those issues before or sex change operations funded by taxpayers for illegal immigrants and convicts, which Kamala supports in the legalization of prostitution or decriminalizing it.
And I I mean it just goes downhill from there.
And by the way, she is gonna go see the border for the first time, I guess, uh tomorrow or the next day.
Yeah, it's a show.
Of course it's a show.
I mean, the the hard truth is an open border is not a border.
And that's you know happens to be the title of one of the chapters in my book.
I I wrote that in the nineteen nineties.
You said that on TV in the nineteen nineties.
People would say, why are you even saying this, right?
It's so obvious.
You shouldn't have to actually say it.
Today that's a controversial thing to say.
Now that that tide has turned a little bit, so she's now trying to create the optics of here's somebody who favored open borders for a long time, now trying to reverse course within 40 days of an election.
But the reality is in our immigration system, Sean, we should not allow people into the country, even legally, if they're going to rely on the welfare system.
The welfare state combined with our immigration system is actually one of the deeper cancers in America.
And we can't just, you know, of course we got to fix the border.
Of course we've got to keep illegal immigrants out.
That's the basic table stakes.
But even on the legal immigration system, and I say this, I traveled to Springfield, right, last week.
I held a town hall there.
By the way, we had a couple thousand people that wanted to come.
We could only fit several hundred.
All I did was a social media post, and that many people wanted to come.
It shows you how much people want to be heard in this country.
But many of those people are Not border crossers, but they're here on temporary protected status as Haitians who got a special form of humanitarian entry.
But I think that one of our policies also needs to be that if you're going to rely on government assistance, welfare, or Medicaid, then we shouldn't really be prioritizing your entry into the country.
And I don't think that should be too controversial to say.
And I don't think Republicans are saying it that way or talking about it that way enough, which is one of the th one of the things I hit hard in that chapter in the book is not just how we fix the illegal immigration crisis at the southern border, but also how we have a sensible legal immigration paradigm in this country.
I'm all in favor of it, but doesn't it have to include a background check and a health check and make sure you're not a financial burden on the American people?
Of course.
It has to also include the ability to speak English.
And some people find that controversial when I say that, Sean, but I think we're more united as a country where we can all speak at least the same language to each other without creating those barriers.
So speak English.
Demonstrate you're not going to be But but look at the difference.
Donald Trump wants a border wall.
She sh you know, and and we have a candidate that has not had to answer the question why she opposed a border wall.
The criminal wants to decriminalize the illegal immigration, offer free housing, health care, education, legal driver's licenses, her running mate wants free college education, uh amnesty, and sex change operations, or a mandatory gun buyback, or no restrictions even on late term abortion, months seven, eight, and nine, or co-sponsoring the ninety-three trillion dollar Green New Deal.
You're you're a businessman.
That would be the end of capitalism.
Of course.
And her willingness to eliminate the filibuster to do it, or eliminating private health insurance and government health care for all.
Or you can't say radical Islamic terrorism or illegal alien uh or her economic plan that will raise you know the corporate tax, wealth tax, estate tax, double the capital gains tax, unrealized capital gains taxes, uh defund, dismantle, no bail laws, you know, uh the rioters in the summer of twenty twenty, tweeting out a bail fund four days after a police precinct is burned to the ground and saying that they're not gonna stop the rioters, they shouldn't stop, and we're not gonna stop supporting them.
I mean, what she's not held accountable for anything.
So, yeah, I b agree with you.
We have to have better ideas, but America needs to be know how nuts and extreme and radical and dangerous these policies are.
That's right.
But that's also each of our responsibility.
That's not somebody else's job.
I mean, really to everybody who's listening to us, that is your job to not only know it for yourself, but to also do the job of making sure your neighbors and the parents of your kids' classmates.
Well, I'm I made it easy for them, Vivek.
I put up on Hannity.com the Kamala Files, the walls files, them in their own words, and they can share it on social media, friends, family, co-workers, whatever.
Nailed it.
You really nailed it with that, and and that's what I tried to do is to make it really simple for people in this book, Truths as well.
Ten easy chapters.
The people listening to this probably don't need to hear it.
But those are the arguments that actually they do need to spread to the people who are on the left.
And what I try to do is to really condense it in a way that you're gonna convert your kids or your colleagues or your friends, even on the left.
This is the toolkit to do it, and that's why I published this today.
All right, quick break more with former presidential candidate Vivek Ramaswamy, his new book Truths, the Future of America First, Amazon.com, Hannity.com, bookstores around the country, and more of his take on the election.
We're only forty-two days until election day as we continue.
We continue with Vivek Ramaswamy, former presidential candidate in his own right, his new book, Truths is out.
How do we balance both?
Like, for example, I mean, early voting has started, and I'm not convinced people voting know the things about Kamala Harris and what she said about her and her own words.
And I think there's been a false caricature painted about Donald Trump.
I mean, at times he can he can be, you know, rough and tough.
There's no you know firsthand.
You've you've you've you battled them yourself.
And however, I mean, I guess some people think that this guy that is fighting against would fight against China and Russia and the mullahs in Iran and Kim Jong un is somehow, you know, magically gonna turn off that that switch, the guy that will fight to secure the border and balance the budget and make us energy dominant is somehow gonna turn off the switch and stop being a fighter and and be quote more presidential as as his critics often say they want him to be, and it's just it's not in his nature.
That's that's not what you're voting for.
Well, I think some of our great presidents through American history have been great fighters.
You know, from that likes of Andrew Jackson, he was a fighter.
I mean, Abraham Lincoln was an intellectual.
He too was a fighter.
So I think that there's a time and place for everything in in the right and for the different kinds of leadership.
And I think Donald Trump beings the kind of leadership that we need now more than ever, which is toughness, especially on the global stage, especially on our southern border.
Well, I think we're on the brink of a world war, if you want to know the truth, breaking out in the Middle East or in Europe.
That's right.
But I think that we're closer to that than we've ever been in our lifetime.
That's another hard truth that we have to confront.
But the other thing we got to do.
Well, then, but then how do we deal with it?
Well, I think we've got to deal with it through strength.
I mean, the first thing is rebuild our own military.
Our military is at the weakest point we've been.
This is one of the facts I talk about in my own book, is just the one that's coming out today.
Is we have a twenty-five percent recruitment deficit in our military right here at home.
So in some ways, the strongest foreign policy is actually rebuilding the American military.
Which in many ways has really fallen by the wayside.
Some of this is also gonna have to come, Sean, in the long run, and Republicans don't talk about this enough anymore.
We need to.
We need to shut down the nanny state in America.
That's become less of a priority.
And I think that sometimes we get a little distracted where we say, you know, there's current, even on the American right that would say we want to replace the left wing nanny state with the conservative nanny state.
No, I think we need to go in and dismantle the nanny state.
The combination of doing those two things, right?
Dismantle the entitlement state, the regulatory state, the broad nanny state, and then use some of that saving to actually make sure we're rebuilding strength in the American military.
That's a powerful combination.
And I think that that is part of the case, even in the introduction to this book that I make, is it's easy to criticize the left, but one of the things we also have to do is confront who we are as conservatives.
And that's why I said it's it's truth, but it's the future direction of America first.
That I think is always the questions we're gonna have to grapple with.
All right, Vivek Ramaswamy, appreciate you being with us.
His new book is out, and it's called uh Truths, The Future of America First, and we're hoping that that we have a victorious uh election day this year.
That would be the beginning of frankly uh preserving and protecting this country and making it strong again.
Uh Vivek, it's on Amazon.com, Hannity.com, bookstores around the country.
We always appreciate your time, sir.
Thank you for being with us.
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We also, as a public service, have the Kamala files.
Although we have a lot to add to it, as we've been telling you in the walls files.
Uh this is a joke that Harris is set, according to the New York Times, to visit the border.
Is this like a bad joke?
Or Harris won't say if she still backs decriminalizing prostitution.
You know, add this to, you know, no deportations chanting on top of the list that you know we play and and mention pretty much every day on this program and her radicalism.
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I am I've I've just had it with mob media democrats and their excuses for Kamala Harris not doing interviews.
This is how bad it's gotten.
Listen.
I don't think it's a lot to ask her to sit down for a real interview as opposed to a pup piece in which she describes like her feelings of growing up in Oakland of nice laws.
Then I would just say to that, when you move to Nirvana, give me your real estate broker's number, and I'll be your next turn neighbor.
We don't live there.
There's only 40 plus days left.
Don't they need to be out there more?
Oh my goodness.
I mean, they're out there all the time.
They're out there talking to voters all the time.
And I think that the vice president has also said that she's going to be um talking to more reporters, both national as well as local reporters, and I think that's a good thing.
Yeah.
Uh you know, when you get to Nirvana, why would you expect her to do an interview for crying out loud?
I'm so sick of this.
It is so corrupt.
It is so dishonest.
And the fact that not every American, we have all these states now beginning early voting, and and people are not fully informed, and they want Americans ignorant before they go to the polls.
They don't want to know about a radicalism or extremism.
You know, how many Americans, if you did a test, know that she wants uh, let's see, a $93 trillion Green New Deal, eliminate the filibuster, if they even know what a filibuster is?
How many Americans know she would eliminate private health insurance?
How many Americans want to pay for sex change operations uh for illegal immigrants and for convicted uh felons?
How many people know that you know Kamala Harris is, you know, wants to legalize or decriminalize prostitution?
How many Americans want free housing, health care, education, uh amnesty, uh, sex change operations for illegals?
How many Americans know about defund dismantle the police and and how many Americans that believe in the second amendment know she wants a mandatory gun buyback or doesn't want to say radical Islamic terrorism or illegal alien?
How many people know?
I mean, that's why I put the the Kamala files, the walls files on Hannity.com, because the media is pathetically corrupt and just repulsively so, and they're hiding this from the American people, and they're allowing her to hide.
And they're just complicit all the way around.
And now the DOJ wants to drop.
Oh, let's put out all the allegations that we have for the uh DC January 6th case, uh, you know, 40 days before the election, and leave it unanswered without a trial.
Great.
Let's do that.
But I'm sure they'll forget the tapes that we have that that show that uh let's see.
Uh five people.
We have on tape, Donald Trump, Mark Meadows, Chris Miller, acting dis the uh secretary of defense, his chief of staff, Cash Patel, and now General Milley, which we had been talking about for years, on record saying, the chairman of the Joint Chiefs in the days leading up to January 6th, that Donald Trump approved the National Guard.
All of them said it.
And nobody authorized calling up the guard, and then it became the chain of command went to Nancy Pelosi and to the mayor of DC, Muriel Bowser.
Did you, as required by law, authorize that?
Uh one hundred percent and attested to by many people, and they turned it down.
Nancy Pelosi turned it down.
Mayor Bowser's written refusal.
The communications between the leader of the Capitol Police and their chain of command to the DOD refusing our request to allow National Guard's men and women to stage on January 4 and 5 before January 6th.
Did you both ask for the National Guard to be called up?
Uh without a doubt, Sean.
Uh we've made that very clear, not just once, but on numerous occasions, we wanted to make sure that there was plenty of uh National Guard on the ready uh in case there was some kind of violence.
I had a meeting with President Trump on the 3rd of January concerning some international threats, and at the very end, he asked if there were any requests for National Guard support.
What was the president's response to you with regard to the request made by Mayor Bowser?
Fill it and do whatever was necessary to protect the uh demonstrators.
Now, the uh House Administration Oversight Subcommittee Chairman Barry Louder Milk of Georgia uh, you know, released the transcript to the inspector general that was given by General Mark Milley in January of 2021, and and this is a quote from the chairman of the Joint Chiefs, the president, you know, he says, Look at this, it's gonna be a large amount of protesters coming here on the sixth.
Make sure you have sufficient National Guard or soldiers to make sure it's a safe event.
Millie told the inspector general in one of two interviews he did in the spring of 2021 during a probe of the Pentagon's response to January 6th.
Millie then acting defense secretary Chris Miller, the last person you heard on that tape, uh assured Trump there was adequate of safety for a plan uh for the Pentagon assistance, and we got a plan.
Now Muriel Bowser in writing declined the guard.
Nancy Pelosi on tape admits that she should have done more.
Uh she was never brought in.
Muriel Bowser was never brought in to these prime time Hollywood produced Liz Cheney and and Chairman Thompson committee meetings.
Uh they didn't bring in the Capitol Police Chief Sund, who requested guard troops himself and was denied repeatedly.
They didn't bring in the sergeant at arms, and then all of a sudden all the information just disappeared.
I mean, it is so corrupt.
And that's all you've heard.
But you don't hear about the summer of 2020 and uh Harris tweeting out the Bell Fund or saying that the rioters won't stop in 2020, 574 rides, they shouldn't stop, and we're not gonna stop.
Well, uh, why is she not held accountable for insurrection?
We had dozens of Americans dead, thousands of injured cops, billions in property damage.
574 riots.
She tweeted out the bell fund to release the rioters four days after a Minneapolis police precinct was burned to the ground, and her running mate wouldn't call up the National Guard for days on end, but he did open the the uh the windows to the family home so they could smell the burning rubber from the rioting.
Of course, does anybody know that?
The corrupt media mob, are they gonna tell you that?
Do you see how corrupt they are?
I mean, abusively biased that they are.
You know, I'm honest about giving opinions.
They're not honest about giving opinions.
They just lie.
Darren is in New Jersey.
I actually think New Jersey in a weird way could be a sleeper state.
I don't know why I believe that.
I just think New Jersey has a history of finally saying they've had enough.
And this might be the year.
I don't know.
Maybe President Trump needs to need to make a play for New Jersey.
What's up, Darren?
How are you?
Well, I'm glad you said that because that's to my point.
So I uh I get very upset because I never see Trump ads here in Jersey.
It's always Kamala Harris.
And here's what I think.
The Trump campaign is missing out on a huge opportunity to get uh to get uh liberal voters, even.
And I'll get to that in a second.
The Trump campaign needs to ask, are you informed?
Are you my fellow Americans informed?
And here's why I say this.
I have a divided family.
I have a family where my sisters, um, they are not fond of President Trump whatsoever, and nor are their friends.
I have friends who are liberals.
Here's what I will say about them right off the bat.
They are great people.
They are great people, highly educated.
They have bigger diplomas than I do.
I hang out with them.
We play awesome games, everything like that.
The one thing I have noticed which scares me and worries me for this country is these incredibly intelligent people are uninformed.
And I've also learned that, and this also goes to your listeners as well.
You cannot go at these people and get into a debating thing because they are triggered.
My sisters were indoctrinated through college.
They went to high high-end colleges.
Um I made it through just ahead.
I'm a little older than them, but I saw it happening.
But when uh when you're there, you talk to these people, the one thing I learned is you cannot go at them ever.
You have to simply ask them questions.
It always has to be a question.
And what I found from this is because I used to do it the wrong way, what I found from this is is all of a sudden I watch as the gears in their head starts to turn and they get stumped.
And it also it actually opens up the conversation.
So much so that I've had a couple that have actually called me to talk to me about politics and you have to be calm and you have to say you have to ask them questions again.
They are not getting the same stuff that we are.
They're not getting the same stuff as we are.
They are sticking to they work very hard.
They work incredibly long hours my sisters are an upper they work their way from the bottom to upper portions of the corporate world not like Kamala Harris and you know and they're well established the same as my other friends they work they work in the cities and they work long hours and what they do for their news sources is they will not turn on a Hannity they will not turn on a Fox they go to Apple News and they stick to these things and they're typically they found out they are readers.
They they are readers so here's what I say the Trump campaign needs to act quickly very quickly because they are so uninformed they need to put together a list the Trump Vant questions for my fellow Americans please answer these before you go to the ballot box.
Are you informed?
Who do you listen to that's who do you listen to that's on the left and who do you listen to that's on the right can you equal out that box between the two and you need to say who are conservatives to listen to what are radio stations what are what are articles to read you know and then they should also post out there he should put the Democrat stuff there.
They should also do a media montage as far as like they should almost have a like a virtual watching having Kamala Harris debate herself and they should have one side of what she's saying and another side and it needs to be out there on TV even in New Jersey.
They need to get onto the late night shows because a lot of these guys get their get their their news from Stephen Cobert blows my mind.
They get their news let me tell you something nobody's watching those shows anymore.
Those shows are on the verge of all being canceled.
So I don't think it's that I I just think I if there's one state in my head although Virginia's certainly in my mind also after this poem came out this weekend uh it would be New Jersey.
I mean New Jersey just has this history of just finally saying enough is enough and I I would imagine that the people in New Jersey are fed up with the illegal immigration and the mass migration and the high taxes and the burdensome regulation and your crappy governor and and the horrible economy and the impact of open borders I mean I just I would imagine you're sick of it.
Well we can't tell you every friend I have in the Northeast says yeah I'm going to be joining you soon.
Yeah I'm going to be joining you soon.
Yeah I'm going to be joining you soon.
Well to my so my point so illegal migration some of the questions that need to be there and he just needs to say this and Trump just needs to put this out there is is it fair that people that are trying to get American citizenship green cards have to wait for years while all of a sudden illegals are being processed.
Is it fair and Sean you should look into the H2B the H2A program.
It is a fantastic program where businesses do it the right way that's been put through by legislation and these poor companies that go get stonewalled on getting their visas meanwhile they you know they ask for a hundred they ask for a hundred thirty thirty nine thousand visa the year the government only only offers them maybe sixty six thousand meanwhile coming across the border are 200,000 illegal immigrants every month and these businesses don't get their guest workers.
Their guest workers are good people.
I've worked alongside them.
They are great people.
The other thing is, you know, and I'll just get into this too, a great way to handle the immigration problem going forward, I think they should really think about it.
And maybe this is the middle of the road thing.
You can take whatever from you want.
You don't give amnesty.
You don't give voting rights.
But what you do is to anybody who has come here illegally, you offer them an opportunity to get into the H2B, the H2A system.
And I believe the other one is the H2T, which is the new one that you can bring families.
And you offer them a one-time get-out-of-jail-free card where they can enter into this program and they can be they can be uh data checked they can become workers here they can pay into social security No they need to be deported.
There's too many of them they do need to be deported that's it there's uh enough is enough We you know, I don't have time to argue with you, but I'm sorry.
They don't need and if they want to come in legally, I'm all in favor of it.
After a background check, a health check, and a means test to make sure they're not a financial burden on the American people.
We we've got to have zero tolerance here.
And it is gonna be a massive undertaking.
And they have put this country, they have compromised our security in ways that are unfathomable at this moment.
We'll know one day, because there are people with terror ties on top of the murderers, the rapists, and the and the violent criminals we've been, you know, reporting to you every day.
I do appreciate your call.
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