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Sept. 13, 2024 - Sean Hannity Show
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Trump Legal Updates - September 13th, Hour 2
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Four days early voting, Pennsylvania, and ballots now going out to even important swing states, even as we speak.
And in the next week and a half, two weeks, a lot of states, all the information you'd ever want as a public service is on Hannity.com along with the Kamala files and the Walls files.
Didn't have a lot of time yesterday to get into comments of Merrick Garland, the attorney general, and him trying to make the case that the DOJ treats all cases alike.
It's not one rule for friends and another for foes.
But we know that's not true.
Just look at the classified documents case.
You know, Hillary Clinton, top secret, classified information, a lot more than was found at Mar-a-Lago on her servers.
And then, of course, 33,000 subpoenaed emails that were deleted with bleach bit and devices destroyed.
Everybody knew about it.
Nothing happened.
There was no raid.
We had Joe Biden force separate independent locations, top secret, classified information, even hanging out in his garage next to his precious Corvette.
So that claim is not true.
Let's listen to Merrick Garland from yesterday.
Federal prosecutors and agents may never make a decision regarding an investigation or prosecution for the purpose of affecting any election or the purpose of giving an advantage or disadvantage to any candidate or political party.
In short, we must treat like cases alike.
There is not one rule for friends and another for foes, one rule for the powerful and another for the powerless, one rule for the rich and another for the poor, one rule for Democrats and another for Republicans, or different rules depending on one's race or ethnicity.
To the contrary, we have only one rule.
We follow the facts and apply the law in a way that respects the Constitution and protects civil liberties.
Well, tell that to Donald Trump.
We did have two of the charges that were brought against Trump and others in Georgia that were three of them actually yesterday knocked out.
Afani Willis still claiming that the investigation against her is racially motivated.
Listen.
They have decided in Georgia that they would like to come over after me.
They use false reasons for wanting to come after me.
Georgia had never had a prosecutorial oversight committee, and all of a sudden, 14 minorities were elected to office to serve as district attorney.
And now all of a sudden, they need an oversight committee to look after district attorneys because they want to tell us how to prosecute and who to prosecute and where we should put our resources, as opposed to allowing the voters that put us in these seats to make those determinations.
Anyway, David Schoen is with us, Civil Liberties Attorney, former counsel for President Trump.
Professor Alan Dershowitz is with us, author of the bestseller, Get Trump.
Let me go to David Schoen and start with you, David.
Do you agree with Merrick Garland that we don't have any favoritism in our Department of Justice?
Because I would argue in the documents case alone, there's no greater evidence that two Democrats were treated very differently than Donald Trump.
I think it's the biggest loss for the Democratic Party that we've seen in my lifetime, probably, that Alan Dershowitz has left the party for the reasons that he left it.
Now, back to yours.
Merrick Garland, the timing and substance of Merrick Garland's statement could not be more outrageous.
In my career, I have never seen this kind of political weaponization of the Department of Justice, as we've seen under the leadership of Merrick Garland.
His number two, Lisa Monaco, is a career-long Andrew Weissman acolyte.
So I expected it of her, but not of him.
I actually thought he was a great judge.
I had a case before him.
He was an honest and decent guy.
You can point to any number of examples here, and you have already.
But for example, his appointment of Jack Smith, apart from the constitutional infirmity that Judge Cannon has raised with the appropriations clause and the appointments clause, it just showed terrible judgment.
Jack Smith has had horrendous prosecutorial exercise of prosecutorial discretion at all times.
In John Edwards' case, the Governor McDonnell case, he doesn't listen to people when they tell him the evidence doesn't support the case.
He's out there for the headlines, and he's done that in this case.
Got ethical violations in this case alleged.
He has members of his team, J.P. Cooney, I have a sanctions motion going against him for lying to a federal judge along with Molly Guest and another member of the team.
They circumvented Congress.
But just look at this, Merrick Garland, personally.
He defied Congress's subpoena for the Biden-Weiss tape, the audio of the tape, claiming executive privilege.
There's no way executive privilege applies there, and he knows it.
The transcript of the whole conversation has been turned over already.
So it's not privilege.
The privilege doesn't protect facial expressions or a slow pace of talk.
And there's no advice going on there, that kind of relationship between Biden and Weiss.
It was an investigation.
So Merrick Garland is aware personally of what he's doing, and his statement is like opposite day.
Again, they have used the Justice Department here to affect an election in favor of one party over the other.
Andrew Cormo said it.
In the New York case, they never would have prosecuted Trump if he hadn't announced he was running for president again.
I mean, that really says it all.
Professor Dershowitz, let's first deal with the issue.
You're no longer a Democrat.
Look, I don't know who I'm going to vote for, but I can't any longer be associated with a party that hates America, that hates Israel, that hates Western values, that undercuts Democratic values, that undercuts the rule of law, and that uses the resources of the Justice Department to go after a candidate for president who they don't like.
Whether I vote for Trump or not, that's irrelevant.
The point is, he's being victimized by the Justice Department today and by the New York DA and by the Fulton County DA, and I have to be on the side of justice.
Well, I think that's all fair, well, and good.
I mean, you know, I felt that Merrick Carlin was suggesting that honest criticism of the Justice Department and a dual standard of justice somehow is unacceptable in his world.
And I'm like, no, that would be the epitome of freedom of expression, number one, and something that I would think he'd embrace.
And number two, you know, all good people of conscience deplore any violence, which, you know, brings us to the whole obsession with January 6th.
Fine, there were people that did absolutely the wrong thing.
I said it in real time on this program.
But there were people in 2020.
There were 574 riots, a couple of dozen dead Americans, thousands of injured cops that blasted with bricks, rocks, bottles, Molotov cocktails, police precincts burned to the ground, billions in property damaged.
Why weren't those riots and insurrections investigated?
Why does Kamala Harris get a pass?
She tweeted out a bail fund four days after the police precinct in Minneapolis was burned to the ground and said they're not going to stop.
They shouldn't stop.
And we're not going to stop.
How is that not a call for insurrection?
Look, I agree.
I think there has been a double standard.
The manner in which they've arrested some Trump people, you know, going to their houses with guns drawn, they don't do that to political people on the other side.
And I would love to see a joint congressional committee looking into whether or not the Justice Department has been as fair as Merrick Garland says it has been.
And I doubt that a legitimate committee of people experts would find that he was actually being accurate.
I just don't think this Justice Department has been accurate.
Now, it's no answer to say that, you know, they'll prosecute if Trump gets elected, he's going to prosecute people selectively as well.
I don't think he's going to do that, but that's no answer.
You can't have it on either side.
There has to be one objective rule of law.
Yeah.
David Shoan, let me let you pick up from there.
You know, it's sort of like, you know, refiling the D.C. case, you know, with 60 days to go.
I thought we had a Justice Department policy that prevented that.
So that's another example of exactly why Merritt Garland's statement is like opposite day.
They knew exactly what they were doing when they issued the superseding indictment.
They know it affects the election.
And to say, as they did at the time, well, the rule doesn't apply because now this is just a question for the judge.
It's not an original indictment.
And still, we're more than 60 days before the election.
Nonsense.
As you pointed out earlier, early voting has started already.
Every voter in those states that allow this kind of early voting can cast their vote now, would be affected by this indictment.
It has no business in.
And you asked the question before, why hasn't the appointments clause and the appropriations clause issue about Jack Smith's appointment been an issue in the D.C. case?
And that, to the dismay of the Court of Appeals and the Supreme Court, as we heard in oral argument, is because President Trump's lawyers didn't fail to raise it in the D.C. case.
Maybe they will now to supersede the indictment.
But one more thing I want to say.
You know, you heard from Alan Dershowitz here, who is one of the champions of free speech for decades and decades.
You, Sean, have spoken out in favor of free speech rights since as long as I've known you, and I'm sure well before.
We haven't even touched on the impact on free speech rights of this administration, the censorship on social media that's only now coming out, the canceling of people who dare to speak against an administration's position.
We've never seen something like this.
I say, and I don't mean to really speak too hyperbolically, but this is the kind of thing we saw in McCarthyism.
People lose their jobs for speaking out against the administration and positions they take.
That's not America.
All right, quick breakboard with Professor Dershowitz and David Schoen on the other side.
You know, you have powerful institutions.
I mean, we saw this in the last couple of presidential elections, the deep state, as we call it, a weaponized Department of Justice.
Then you've got big tech was dragged into the 2020 campaign.
They were pre-bunking what they knew to be very true, a very real laptop, that they knew that that laptop story would be leaked by Rudy Giuliani's attorney.
And so they have, you know, cinderblocks on the scale of an election.
Then you've got a media mob that is not going to report on Kamala having no restrictions on abortion, her comments on a mandatory gun buyback, mocking a border wall, decriminalizing illegal immigration, and offering free housing, health care, education, legal driver's licenses, and free college in Minnesota, for example.
And the flow of information with big tech and the deep state and the media is very powerful, isn't it?
It's far too powerful in a democracy which is supposed to have a marketplace of ideas.
And the marketplace of ideas is the close to important ideas.
And this campaign has not been fair.
And I think the American public deserves better.
Yeah, I think they do.
Bernie Sanders said it all the other day.
You don't need to go any further.
He said, essentially, Kamala Harris will say whatever it takes to get elected, and then she will return to our fold, meaning Sanders, Elizabeth Warren, AOC, and the hate squad.
That's what the American public needs to hear.
President Trump fulfilled his promises in his last campaign for president when he became president.
And I mean those specifically with respect to Israel, peace in the Middle East, and all of those kinds of things.
We're not hearing any policy.
Economic and economy of opportunity, we hear Kamala Harris.
Nobody knows what any of these kinds of things mean.
We need specifics, and we have the track record of President Trump.
But as I told you before, you know, Alan Dershowitz is the ultimate civil libertarian.
And for him to come out with the positions that he has, he speaks forthrightly, as he always has, and that's important.
And as I say, you and he, Sean, both have been champions of free speech, and that's what's at stake in this election as well.
So I have a question, though, for President Trump.
Why didn't he focus on the statement made by Bernie Sanders?
Bernie Sanders made the most important statement of the campaign.
What he said was that, look, what Kamala Harris is saying about moving to the center isn't true.
She is still a progressive, woke, radical, everything she ever was.
She's a Bernie Sanders guy.
She's just doing it to fool the American public.
Why didn't he focus on that?
Why didn't the ABC news people focus on that?
I mean, that's a great point.
It really is.
And, you know, I think there are a lot of opportunities that were available to him in terms of him prosecuting the case, but it was a three-on-one environment, as usual.
And I thought it was very hostile.
And, you know, it's easy for us on the sidelines to sit there and Monday morning quarterback.
Why didn't you say this or that?
I'm not talking about this quarterback now.
I'm talking about Thursday afternoon quarterbacking for Sunday's game.
It was Tuesday's game, but who's counting?
Oh, no, but why doesn't he demand another debate?
Why is she saying she wants another debate?
And he doesn't.
That makes him sad.
I don't believe for one second she means it.
And I think they have figured out she doesn't mean it either.
I think what she wants is to create a perception and it would create such onerous rules.
I mean, every single network was dictated by the Democrats, Professor.
Everyone.
Every rule was dictated by the Democrats.
And then they wanted to change the rules.
You know, at some point, you got to just look at the opportunity and just say, I'm better off campaigning on my own.
And I, you know, look, I've talked to friends that have different views on it.
I'm not sure where I actually stand on it, to be honest.
And that's a rare moment for me.
Challenge him to a debate on Fox News.
And if she turns it down, debate her with an empty chair, have her statements, have Sanders statements, and have there be a debate on Fox.
And if she turns down a debate on Fox after being on CNN and ABC, the American public has the right to judge that.
I think that's a good idea, actually.
I think you should suggest it to him.
Anyway, I appreciate both of you.
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I know Kamala doesn't want me to say it, but I guess I'm not courageous like she is, but that's what happened.
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You know, I don't, I'm not going to join this chorus of people.
David Portnoy had an interesting comment.
I didn't know David Portnoy was a big Swifty.
You know, I know he's got his, what's the name of the dog he has?
Oh, my God.
Peaches.
Peaches.
Come here, Peaches.
You know, here you got this hyper alpha male, and he's got these videos with his dog that he rescued and flew in on a private jet.
And he's raised, I think, millions of dollars, you know, to help rescue animals.
I love animals too.
I love dogs in particular.
I wish I was at a point in my life where I actually could be a good dog owner.
I'd love to have a dog again, but I am not.
And anyway, I just love animals.
I love dogs.
And I make fun of Linda's cat that had to go to the heavy cat farm.
You're not allowed to say the F-word, that F-word, right, anymore, Linda?
That's illegal.
I mean, I don't know.
I don't subscribe to those things, but, you know.
All right.
You so overfed this animal, it was four times its normal size.
Let's be honest.
Listen, you know, I know you did it out of love, but you nearly killed the thing.
I didn't almost kill her.
She just walked a little slower.
But, you know, she did go to an away camp, and she's nice.
An awakening.
Is she really skinny?
I haven't seen a skinny picture.
She's skinny, and she's living on the farm, and she's living her best life.
And I have to keep it.
You have to keep her on the farm because you're not capable of withholding that.
That's not true.
It's because I got another cat, and that cat was mean to her.
And I, you know, I had somebody that needed a cat at the time who was very lonely.
And so I gave that person this cat.
Anyway, so you have Portnoy going, Miss Peaches, oh, and then he pushes around the dog in a stroller.
It's hilarious.
Some of the funniest things I've ever seen.
But anyway, putting that aside, he's done a lot of good work.
But he's apparently a Swifty.
I didn't know that part.
And that's fine, but he's not voting the way Taylor Swift is.
I don't know if celebrity endorsements matter too much.
The only thing I would say is, you know, one thing, Taylor Swift started out with, you know, Tears in My Guitar.
I kind of watched a whole career.
She's enormously talented, writes all her own songs, is extraordinarily kind to her fans.
I mean, I see a lot of things that I like about her.
I think that the press and the mob and the media and her critics need to leave her and Travis Kelsey alone and let them live their lives.
And she's allowed to vote for whoever she wants to vote for.
But when she made a public endorsement, it made me think.
I really wonder if she supports this idea of no restrictions on late-term abortion, which both Kamala Harris and Tim Walz support.
That means in the months 7, 8th, and 9th.
That would be a question I would like to have known or supports.
I mean, not that I know of.
I don't think she has any children.
But, you know, if she had a son, is she okay with the idea of putting feminine products in boys' bathrooms and schools?
Or, like in the case of Minnesota and now moving into California to have gender assignment care, I'm talking about care, which could be life-altering, given to students without parental notification.
She said for people to do their own research, which I think was a responsible thing to do.
I don't know.
Now, Brittany Mahomes, who seems to be her friend, made some favorable comments about Donald Trump.
And, you know, there was, oh, a big outcry.
Patrick Mahomes, they tried to drag him into this in a press conference.
And honestly, I think he probably wisely decided I'm not bringing politics into my sport.
This is what he said.
Before President Trump refers to your family again today on Fox News in relation to his campaign.
I just wonder what your reaction is to seeing that.
Yeah, I think I've always said I don't want my place and my platform to be used to endorse a candidate or do whatever either way.
I think my place is to inform people to get registered to vote.
It's to inform people to do their own research and then make their best decision for them and their family.
When you were at the U.S. Open this past weekend and you guys were there with Taylor and Travis, I mean, is that an important image to show that, you know, people who may have different philosophies.
Whatever I'm hanging out with whoever, I'm not thinking about their political views or anything like that.
I'm thinking about the people and how they treat other people.
And I was with a lot of great people this weekend.
I mean, probably a smart answer on his part.
Let us go to our busy telephones.
Jeff is in Missouri.
Jeff, hey, how are you?
Glad you checked in.
Happy Friday to you.
Happy Friday to you, Sean.
Thanks for having me on there.
About the second debate.
And I know Kamala's asked for it, and Trump decided he wasn't going to do it, which I think is probably a bad idea.
I think he should go on along with it and let in the same forum that they did last time.
Two moderators.
The problem is when I did my town hall, I don't know if you saw the town hall I did with President Trump in Harrisburg, Pennsylvania.
Did you see that town hall?
I did.
Okay.
That was supposed to be a Fox debate.
Every debate so far, every rule, every location, every moderator, all of it was dictated by the Democrats.
That's the only debate they're going to agree to.
It's their terms and their terms only.
And we saw, you know, I felt it was a three-on-one debate Tuesday.
And I just think the president realizes, okay, she's not going to speak to the press.
And, you know, I've got to move on with my campaign and stop.
You know, it was Kamala that said the debate over debates is over.
You know, are we going to not learn about her positions in 56 days, 54 days?
She hasn't done a formal press conference.
Donald Trump just finished one before we started the show today.
There was an interesting comment that was made.
It was on FoxNews.com.
Author Susan Page told Fox News, Barbara Walters would be pushing hard and demanding a debate.
Trump and Vance did a combined 48 interviews since last month, you know, compared to, you know, the one on fake news, CNN combined.
James Clyburn saying that Harris, you know, probably shouldn't do another interview because she'll probably make a mistake.
I mean, it's a disservice to the American people.
I don't think this is wearing well.
And I think that, as I've been pointing out, her radicalism is becoming more and more well known.
And I'm actually giving many of you in this audience a lot of credit.
I put the Kamala files, the walls files on Hannity.com as a public service, them in their own words, their radicalism, the list that I mentioned or play on a daily basis.
And more and more people discover how extreme she is, which ABC had an obligation to bring out, ABC Disney, and they didn't.
You know, look, I don't call for boycotts.
I just don't, or cancellations or any such.
I just, I don't live that way.
But, you know, if a company is that hostile and woke and political and their views are just the antithesis of mine, I really have no interest in ABC Disney.
And I think their credibility as a, quote, news organization has been shot and is forever tarnished as a result of that.
We just learned from the New York Post today that apparently Kamala and, oh, what's the Lindsay Davis?
Is that her name?
I was not that familiar with her before this.
You know, we're sorority sisters, were part of the same sorority.
I'm like, oh, that would have been nice if it was disclosed ahead of time.
But, you know, I'm not sure you really get a lot out of this.
It's if we had gotten to the substance of Kamala sponsoring the Green New Deal, mandatory gun buybacks instead of her lying about it, or her own words and fracking, or sponsoring government health care for all, no private health insurance, and defund and dismantle and no bail laws and, you know, sex change operations for prisoners and for illegal immigrants paid for by you.
Had we gotten to all of that, it would be worthwhile.
But none of that happened.
And I don't think it's going to happen the next time.
And she's not going to agree to Fox.
I could tell you that.
So Donald Trump is then put in a position yet again to be in a hostile environment.
And I'm just, at some point, I mean, he's just got to realize that there's no upside here for him.
Anyway, we'll see, though.
I could go either way, to be honest on it.
I don't really care that much about it because it's a lot of theater.
Thanks, Jeff.
All right, quick break right back to our phones.
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Dave, New Jersey.
Dave, Joyzy, what's going on, man?
How are you?
Hey, Sean, how are you?
First time caller.
What's going on, man?
How are you doing?
Good.
Before I hit my point, I got to say, being the number one multimedia superstar that you are, I got to tell you, you're a very humble man.
I appreciate that.
I come, I don't know about the superstar part.
I'm kind of laughing and chuckling to myself.
I will tell you this.
There's two things in my life that have been great for me in my life.
One is my belief in God.
Without it, I can't do anything.
I understand of ourselves, we can do nothing.
The second thing is I had parents that grew up very poor and grandparents that were very, very poor.
And I got a work ethic.
And I did real work for, you know, two decades of my life.
And it has shaped my worldview.
So if it's kept me grounded in any way, I'm extremely grateful for it.
Well, it has.
Well, you're very kind.
What's on your mind today?
Yeah, I just wanted to say, you know, I watched a debate the other night.
I like to go to bed at 9.30.
It kept me up till 11.
I realized it's a complete waste of time.
It's political theater.
Trump already has the proof in the pudding.
He did it for four years.
He made this country the best it's been in decades, and she's done nothing.
So I believe I agree with him.
No more debates.
Let's get to the election.
Keep him on the trail, and he will win with flying colors.
That's my belief.
Well, look, I think at this point, this is where I think this audience being deputized and just doing a public service for our country and getting engaged.
I think people, again, I go back to something that is probably annoying for me to repeat for many of you.
And for that, I apologize.
I really do.
But voting early, voting by mail, you got to embrace it.
Not the system we want, the system we're stuck with.
You can't start out election day down hundreds of thousands of votes.
It's critical.
You know, going to Hannity.com, all of this is free.
There's no charge to go to my website.
You can download the Kamala files, the Walls files.
You can share it on social media.
You can give it to your friends.
You can give it to your family.
You can give it to your coworkers.
Give it to strangers.
If you do that, that helps get out how extreme, radical, and dangerous she is.
And frankly, what a fraudulent campaign this whole thing has been.
And then you begin to also see the media in a whole new light because you ask yourself, well, why haven't they done their job?
And I think back in my career and all the times that I got it right and they got it wrong, we were right about the Russia hoax.
We were right about the impeachment hoax.
I was right about Richard Jewell back in the day.
I was right about the UVA.
I was right about Duke La Crosse.
I was right about Ferguson, Missouri.
I was right about Freddie Gray.
I've been right about a weaponized system of justice, right about the dirty disinformation dossier, right about the FISA applications, right about Hunter's laptop, and the media is wrong.
And I don't say that pridefully to go back to your earlier comment.
I just say it as a matter of fact.
And I learned the lesson that you don't rush to judgment.
You know, Kamala Harris, you know, rushed to judgment in the Jussie Smollett case, high-tech lynching.
No, it wasn't.
It was a fraud.
And I was very suspicious from day one, but I was waiting for evidence.
Anyway, my friend, God bless you.
We appreciate you being out there.
Thank you for your kind words as well.
I'll take it to heart.
I think we should all remain humble and kind to quote the great Tim McGraw song.
Don't you like that song, Linda?
I don't know that song.
Oh, come on.
You never heard that song?
No.
Oh, man.
You got to download it.
When we come back, I'll tell you what, we'll play it.
At the top of the next hour.
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