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Walz and China? - August 29th, Hour 3
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So we are watching with bated breath as Kamala Harris and Tim Walls sit down with Dana Bash of CNN.
This is being treated as a historic event that she's actually talking to somebody in the press.
And we have a video clip that has been released by CNN, which is her explaining in this interview why some of her positions on key issues have changed.
Eric, I want to get your reaction.
Everybody, let's listen to this clip.
Generally speaking, how should voters look at some of the changes that you've made that you've explained some of here in your policy?
Is it because you have more experience now and you've learned more about the information?
Is it because you were running for president in a democratic primary?
And should they feel comfortable and confident that what you're saying now is going to be your policy moving forward.
Dana, I think the the most important and most significant aspect of my policy perspective and decisions is my values have not changed.
You mentioned the Green New Deal.
I have always believed, and I've worked on it, that the climate crisis is real, that it is an urgent matter to which we should apply metrics that include holding ourselves to deadlines around time.
We did that with the Inflation Reduction Act.
We have set goals for the United States of America and by extension the globe around when we should meet certain standards for reduction of greenhouse gas emissions, as an example.
That value has not changed.
My value around what we need to do to secure our border.
That value has not changed.
I spent two terms as the attorney general of California, prosecuting transnational criminal organizations, violations of American laws regarding the passage, illegal passage of guns, drugs, and human beings across our border.
My values have not changed.
So Eric, your reaction to this first clip from the Kamel Harris interview.
Um her values haven't changed, but the things that she supports have.
I mean, the way and she didn't answer the question.
I mean, there's so much there.
We could talk about that clip alone for the rest of the show.
We won't because we have to do that.
Start with a question.
Start with a question.
So we looked it up during the break, and um Dana Bash uh has a child, and she and John King share a son together, John King of CNN.
Yeah.
And why I was interested about that is because um I think most child psychologists would tell you that that's a not a great way to talk to even a child.
Because what she just did is she asked a question and then she gave her two answers.
Like it's almost like, hey, how come you won't stay in bed?
Is it because you're you needed some water?
Is it because you like the lights too bright?
As opposed to, hey, you're not doing the right thing.
Stop it.
Yeah.
So the question should be simple.
How come you flip-flopped on things like your support for Trump's border wall, even though you have a number of times what you call it, this medieval vanity project and something that you have actively campaigned against.
I mean, that's a specific and it's a good question.
But then for her to provide an answer like you would a toddler, I think I I can't help but think about the thing you talked about earlier in the show, which is this book that came out last year, in which a number of people connected to the Democratic Party said she is not ready for prime time.
I don't know that that clip does anything to change that policy perspective.
No, you're right.
I mean, if you look if you watch the video, it looks like she's kind of struggling.
And I would agree with you, that was not even just a softball question.
That was a T ball question.
I mean, she laid it right there and let her swing on it, and she didn't answer the question in any meaningful way.
How about the also the you know, there's the whole Kamala Sarah uh Kamala Harris uh word salad issue?
Yeah.
So metrics, we should hold ourselves to metrics that include holding ourselves to deadlines around time.
Like we've all been in meetings when you go to the person who has the position, but maybe not like the heft behind it.
And that's exactly what you would hear.
Let me get you some words on that.
I'm gonna I'm gonna I've got a new phrase now to use with my book publishers.
If I miss a deadline.
Well, that, according to Kamala Harris was not a deadline around time.
That was just a deadline.
Yeah, I mean, the it's it's a ridiculous statement.
So it's gonna be interesting to see what else they come up with.
Uh uh again, I don't think it's gonna uh provoke a lot of confidence uh in people um because based on just that one question, Dana Bash did not treat her like she does she would any other politician generally, which would be in 2019 you said you were in favor of fracking, now say now you say you don't.
Explain it.
That's how the question should be asked.
Why is are the lines at your events so long?
Is it because you're so awesome?
Is it because your popularity is historic?
Right, exactly.
So it's gonna be interesting to see how the plays out.
Tim Wals was sitting there quietly uh paying attention, and we talked in the last hour about the questions that Kamala Harris could be asked about her career as a prosecutor and the fact that she I would argue protected child predators, and I think the record is clear on that in California.
You look at Tim Waltz, and I'm wondering, did Dana Bash ask him about his long ties to China?
We've done a lot of research on this.
We've talked about this going back some 30 trips that he's made to China.
It's bizarre, by the way.
Just again, we talk about consider the context.
So Joe Biden is pushed out, which I don't think we spend enough time just sitting there for a moment.
The fact that the most important man in the world was forced to abandon a post he won rightfully, including in the 2024 Democratic primary this year, because he committed the political sin of like being behind in the polls, and the forces are so strong they made him do that.
So now we've replaced him with her.
It's the first time, as it's been reported, there's no Bush, there's no Clinton, there's no Biden on a ticket.
But they've managed to replace a Biden who had, as you've documented extensively, insane and financially profitable connections to China.
And they managed to have replaced him with someone who has even longer ties to China.
Yeah, longer ties and different ties, but I would argue is troubling, maybe even more troubling, because with the Bidens, it was transactional, right?
It was it was about money.
It was about Hunter collecting money.
And by our calculation, looking at the Hunter Biden laptop, they got some 31 million dollars from Chinese businessmen.
Uh, you can't say that about Tim Walls.
What you can say about Tim Walls is that he is cozied up to China, and he's what they used to call in the days, I think a fellow traveler.
Uh he started this exchange program uh to bring students to China.
He would put in his campaigns when he was running for Congress that um this was an exchange program that was endorsed by Harvard.
Turns out that's not true.
It was started by two Harvard graduates, but Harvard had nothing to do with it.
Let's call it Harvard adjacent.
Exactly.
Harvard adjacent.
Good.
And it was funded, not by Harvard, not by these two Harvard graduates.
It was actually funded by the Chinese.
And he admitted this in interviews in the 90s that this was subsidized by the Chinese, and he bragged about the fact we get to go special places that nobody else gets to go.
And he told the students that were going on this.
Number one, minimize or downplay your in Americanness.
Even though this is an exchange program, we're supposed to be learning from each other.
And the second thing is he made these ridiculous comments about the Chinese political system.
He told students that in China's there no there's no poverty, which is not true.
And he said that was because in the Chinese system, the people share.
You know, like I always thought sharing was voluntary, right?
You and I are sharing, but um if your parents should make you do it, it's not really sharing.
Uh and with a dictatorial government of China, it's not sharing.
It's a dictatorship.
So he had this incredibly, I think, naive um but pro-beijing spin on his activities.
And then when he got into Congress, um, you know, the stuff continued.
He would criticize the Chinese on human rights, but then he would almost immediately say, Yeah, but you know what, we have our problems as well.
You had Chianem and Square in 1989.
We had wounded knee in the 19th century.
And he even told the Chinese premier in 2016, you know what, don't look to us for human rights because we're still trying to figure it out ourselves.
By the way, you mentioned Tiananmen Square.
Tim Waltz is so connected ideologically to China that he chose June 4th as the anniversary that he would get married on, and his wife said it's because he wanted to have a date he would remember.
And also, and this is a very serious thing.
I mean, Hunter Biden, it's now even the DOJ admits yes, Hunter Biden took foreign money probably to try to influence U.S. government policy.
Uh, you know, he whether he's pardoned by his father or not, that remains to be seen.
But that's a story you literally broke over six years ago.
Uh you've now, in the last three weeks plus, have been doing an extensive research into Tim Waltz and his Chinese ties.
And we've heard from people in the military community, because one of the things that we talked about with Hunter Biden in China is we had 31 million dollars at least connected to the Chinese intelligence, the espionage world of China.
Yeah, that's sending 31 million dollars to the Biden family.
That's what China does.
They try to, it's an intelligence gathering operation, and they will have they're happy to bribe to do it.
Tim Waltz has his own connections that way, or at least it it seems like he might fit the profile.
Oh, there's no question.
And look, all these exchange programs are run by the CCP International Department in conjunction with the Ministry of State Security.
This is what they do, and just a small story that shows you how closely they have watched Tim Waltz.
This is a story that Tim Waltz actually tells.
Listen to this, because this is insane.
Yeah, so he meets the premier of China, the number two guy, a guy named Lee, in uh 2016 when he's over there on a congressional demo delegation.
Weirdly, the delegation was only Democrats.
There was no Republican there.
And Tim Waltz tells a story that he goes to Chinese officials and says, you know, I came here in Tibet.
I think I came to Tibet in December of 1989, and they interrupted him and said, No, you were there in February of 1990.
The Chinese officials.
Yeah.
So they knew 26 years later.
Yes, they knew exactly where he was going.
They knew exactly what he was going to do.
And when he became governor of Minnesota, this trend continued.
I mean, he continued to make excuses for Chinese human rights violations to the extent of equating them with the United States.
But he also gave speeches to these United Front groups.
He gave a speech as governor in 2019 to a group that's known to be tied to the C CP and the Chinese spy apparatus.
He was the only government official to speak.
He was a keynote speaker there.
Everybody else was like a Chinese cultural figure.
He was the only one that did that.
And he also is governor of Minnesota, is the chairman of the investment board.
And he poured money into China when a lot of other people were saying, hey, we need to take a pause.
We're broadcasting live from Florida right now.
Florida, Indiana, Missouri are among the states that have banned investments.
They've divested uh from Chinese funds.
Minnesota went The other way in the last three years, they've poured 900 million dollars of Minnesota taxpayer money into Chinese backed funds.
That's more over the last three years than any other state.
That's right.
And it could be a coincidence, but when you consider, as Kamala Harris likes to see the context of the moment.
Right.
Uh, it it adds up to, I think, a profile.
Again, you replace the guy with Chinese ties with somebody else with different Chinese ties you think ideological, which makes them more of a threat.
Uh, but that's among the questions we don't expect Dana Bash to answer.
But if she does, she'll probably say, are you Chinese tied?
And if so, is it just because you like the food?
That's probably how Dana Bash would ask the question.
That's exactly right.
And you know, look, this is the problem again.
The reason that we have to do that is because the media's not doing it, Dana Bash is not going to do it.
Um, and we're gonna continue to do it because somebody has to vet these people, regardless of what their political positions are, regardless of where they stand on the political spectrum.
We're gonna investigate the people nobody else is.
We'll see whether those questions come up in the interview tonight.
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Yeah, my question is uh I was starting to listen to Kennedy uh at the beginning when Biden was still in the race.
And so he caught my interest, and I was pleased, pleased that he put his support behind Trump, and I wondered how what you two thought of that.
No, I think the thing that's interesting about RFK Jr. is he's an unconventional candidate, right?
He doesn't have standard views.
There are some that are sort of left of center, some that are right of center, and he's seems to be very genuine in terms of his views.
Um, I don't know uh how much the political endorsement will make a difference.
It could, I think, on the margins.
I think the larger question is, is he gonna remain on the ballot, right?
Because the Democrats are trying to keep him on the ballot, more people on the ballot, they are assuming that he will siphon votes away from Trump.
And at the same time in Michigan, for example, that they want RFK to stay on the ballot, Democrats, they're trying to get Cornell West off the ballot because their fear is that Cornell West will drive away from Joe Biden.
So it's like 2020.
They are making up the rules as they go, and the rules are always going to be put in a position in a way that benefits one political party.
Yeah, thank you for the call, Michael.
It's a it's a good question.
And I think the point that Peter just made is the most important one.
Uh, because this is another example, I think, of hypocrisy manifest at the highest levels.
We're told that democracy's on the ballot.
While you've taken someone who won all the primary votes in uh Joe Biden, you've taken him off the ballot.
You've replaced him with someone who received no primary votes.
I mean, think about this, it's kind of the same thing.
They sort of rigged in 2016, they fundamentally changed the way we cast elections and votes in 2020.
And now they're just deciding, okay, well, Cornell West, you might be a threat to Kamala Harris, so you have to go.
RFK, you have to stay, right?
They said because he's already won his primary, they can't take his name off of the ballot.
Meanwhile, in Michigan, they're sort of raising questions about the validity of signatures for Cornell West, which is im impressive and amusing because earlier this year the Republican Party sued Michigan over the bloat in their voter roles because they think you have up to half a million ineligible voters still on your rolls, which Michigan's Secretary of State, which by the way is put in place by George Service, agrees with.
Yeah.
No, it's it's remarkable.
And this is the problem.
We're seeing a breakdown in our governance in the manner in which they interpret laws.
And I understand sometimes laws are vague and uh sometimes they're unclear, but the fact that you were have seen everything become so politicized, and again, this is being done uh largely by Democrats who have argued now for a long period of time that it's Donald Trump that is the existential threat to our institutions.
No, it's uh it's insane the way the brazenness with which they say the thing that's not true when the opposite is true.
Uh, just like when Tim Waltz said that they're the party of freedom, you're gonna hear from somebody next who will tell you exactly how free they weren't in Tim Wallace's Minnesota.
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And we have a very special guest that is joining us on the line, Lisa Hansen.
She's a grandmother and a former wine and coffee bistro owner in the town of Albert Lee, Minnesota, that I've been to, by the way.
The people there are so friendly and so nice.
And yet when you hear Lisa's story, you're going to be shocked.
Go back to 2020.
This is the COVID uh lockdown that Tim Wals has instituted.
Draconian.
Draconian.
Yes.
And and of course, you know, he says otherwise, but the facts are there.
And the lockdown was in place.
Um all sorts of businesses were shut down, including the interchange wine and coffee bistro that Lisa ran.
Meanwhile, the governor shut never shut down liquor stores, big box stores, or even strip clubs, because those were apparently essential.
And this grandmother of 18 children, grandchildren, was thrown in jail.
Lisa, are you there?
We have Lisa.
Lisa, are you there?
Can you hear me?
Yes.
Hey, how are you, Lisa?
It's a great uh thank you so much for joining us.
So I read this story and I was frankly shocked.
Um, and part of it is everybody hears about Minnesota nice.
Uh, and Tim Waltz is telling us on his convention speech that uh, you know, he's all about freedom.
Tell us exactly what happened um and and what it tells you about Tim Walls.
Yeah, thank you so much, gentlemen, for having me on.
I appreciate it.
My story needs to uh be shared with America.
So we know uh who this man running for VP really is.
Uh when the shutdowns came, the lockdowns came in March, uh, we were promised two weeks.
Let's just shut down for two weeks, see what this is.
We did not know what was going on, we consented.
Although we knew that uh the governor didn't have a right to uh to to shut us down uh constitutionally and otherwise.
Well, the two weeks turned into two and a half months.
Two and a half months went on uh for not complete lockdown, but still at a percentage of lockdown, uh with all kinds of rules applied, as you guys know.
Uh come November, uh when the rest of the country was essentially opened up or opening back up fully, uh, our governor, Governor Tim Walls, shut us down again in November.
Um and if you remember, you already mentioned uh it was the restaurants, the bars, the nail hair salons, those are the places, the dance studios, those are the places that were shut down, while the other, the big box stores, uh the home depots, Walmarts, the strip clubs, liquor stores, and even one the largest candy store in the state of Minnesota, uh up near around the the Twin Cities area.
Um, they actually got a a special allowance to uh stay open during during the time that the rest of us had to be closed down.
So that didn't make any sense, and a lot of us were not real happy about well, actually any of it.
You know, I think it is important because one thing Kamala Harris and Tim Walls have in common, California, Minnesota, the states that they came from, both were among the most restrictive states during COVID.
And I know we're we're four years past that, but it's still a lesson in what happens when you give government the tools to do whatever they want.
What was that like for you?
And then how did them and their policies end up with you being actually jailed?
Yeah, yeah.
I mean, it was tough on all of us.
Uh really, obviously, it's just it's not just my story.
There were so many people affected so uh uh detrimentally by these uh draconian, as you already stated, draconian lockdowns.
Well, we I had I believe it was uh five civil cases against me uh because I eventually did open up.
I uh in December of 2020.
Um I I did open my business because I realized, okay, we we we can't continue to live this way.
We can't operate business this way, we're out of money.
We've been out of money, and um so we had two choices either close my doors permanently forever, or I open up under my constitutionally uh uh or my God-given constitutionally protected rights, correct?
And so um I opened up, the state came after me with every resource that they had, five civil cases, two criminal cases against because I was considered so dangerous.
And Lisa, you obviously have a long criminal record before this, right?
Oh my, I've never been to court, never uh been to jail.
I think I had a speeding ticket when I was a teenager.
Here's here's the the part that that really enrages me, you know, Tim Wals wielded power and he said, trust the science, trust the research, I know what I'm doing.
He clearly didn't know what he was doing, and yet he was also saying, you know what, you can't go and get coffee at Lisa's coffee shop, but you can go to this candy store.
It'd be interesting to know if they're politically connected, by the way.
Uh, and you can go to this strip club, because of course there's no personal contact at a strip club, right?
Uh, but you can't go to this coffee shop.
I mean, it's it's it's it's patently absurd.
And this is the problem when they say trust us when we wield power because we know what we're doing.
So did you actually go to jail and how long were you there?
I did.
I was uh sentenced to 90 days.
I served uh got out on good behavior.
So I was sentenced to the maximum penalty and and was there for 60 days.
So yes, I actually did serve time in jail.
I missed Christmas with my family, my husband and my anniversary.
I missed the birth of one of our granddaughters where I was supposed to be a assistant for present, um, as well as a host of other really important family functions.
Um I yeah, I actually spent time in jail, believe it or not, really for serving a cup of coffee that I had every right to do to a willing customer that had every right to come in and and purchase that cup of coffee.
That was there voluntarily.
Um and and and by the way, you served more jail time, I would dare say, than most of the people that were burning down Minneapolis earlier that year.
Yeah, yeah, I I think you're you're correct on that.
Um, you know, a lot of those people uh basically got a slap on the hand and they were released back out onto the streets, real criminals, while I was I was kept in jail.
Yep.
It's it's uh it's uh such a stark contrast in everything that's right and good and lawful and rule of law, it's really been turned upside down by Tim Walls and uh attorney general Keith Ellison, he gets to take some of the credit for uh uh disparaging and and really wrecking our state.
I know it was four years ago, but we're still feeling the effects of that, and so many other business owners that I talked to personally that went through uh persecution and prosecution as well.
Um, they're still feeling the effects from what from what Tim Walls did to us and to our businesses, not to mention all the other all the other lockdowns that he did, churches.
He closed churches, he uh he sent sick people to nursing homes.
Um well, we all know how that goes for the elderly in the nursing home.
Um he just he rampaged our our state and really continues to do so.
Yeah, we've seen the video, and we talked about this on one of our podcasts, that there's a video that shows uh after I think is in the wake of the George Floyd riots and protests when they finally enforced a curfew, and you see people sitting on their porch, and then you see here because I think Minnesota State Police come down and actually fire paintballs at citizens for not being indoors.
And it honestly reminds us, especially as we've documented Tim Waltz's ties to China.
It reminds us very much of like the Chinese dog that would go through the streets and bark at citizens to get back inside.
Do you get a sense that this is I mean, that's not the Tim Waltz that I would imagine Minnesotans voted for.
They didn't see this as a totalitarian guy that saw him as a rural gun-toting military veteran who would be more of a centrist, but it sounds like you've been shocked by the way he's governed.
Oh, absolutely.
And and what Minnesota Minnesotan has not been.
We thought he was more of a centrist.
I personally did not vote for him.
But we when he did get into office, we thought, you know, he's kind of kind of middle of the ground.
Uh, this shouldn't be so bad.
Yeah.
You were wrong.
Um, yeah, he's he's anything but a centrist.
The man has a, in my opinion, has an infatuation with China, and uh, I think that's what he wants to make Minnesota his own little China.
Um, it's incredible the things that he has done.
He is no what are they calling him uh on some of the media, they say that he's um cuddly, coach like, dad like, joy.
No, that is not the Tim Walls that Minnesota knows.
Yeah, and the Tim Walls of Minnesota knows, by the way, Minnesota's one of those states that is having an exodus since he has been governor the last couple of years.
50,000 net 50,000 people have left the state of Minnesota as opposed to those who have actually moved in.
The thing we hear about California a lot and New York, same thing is happening in the wonderful state of Minnesota.
I've spent a lot of time there.
It's beautiful, lots of lakes, friendly people.
But Tim Waltz's tax policies and the draconian policies that he put Lisa and the others through are starting to wear on the people of that state.
I actually went to Minnesota in November of 2020, right before the election for a forum on election integrity.
I know Minnesota has a lot of questions about their election integrity.
A lot of people were shocked after the way that Minnesota was looted and burned in the summer and then locked down because of Tim Waltz, that it voted the way it did.
What do you think you Minnesota will do this time?
Does Tim Waltz's presence on the ticket make it more likely to be another Biden Waltz win?
Um let's hope not.
Um, you know, we here here's what I have to say.
Tim Walls is dangerous to the people of Minnesota, so therefore he's he would be dangerous to the people of the United States of America.
Us Minnesotans have experienced his orchestrated evil.
I have firsthand.
You put that evil together with the evil Kamala Harris, and what do you get?
You get evil on steroids.
And and I have a personal message for Tim Walls.
Tim, if that's what you want, move to China.
Leave our republic alone.
The people of Minnesota, the vast majority, I would say, um, really would like to see Tim Walls uh impeached at the very least.
Um we would we do not want that that team, the the Walls and Harris team uh for America.
America does not want that.
If we want to maintain our republic, um we won't do it with Walls and Harris.
Well, we've been talking with Lisa Hansen.
She's from the great um city of Albert Lee, Minnesota that I've been to.
She's got eight children, eighteen grandchildren.
She was the owner of the interchange wine and coffee bistro.
She was thrown in jail 60 days.
60 days because Tim Walls would not get rid of.
This is not two weeks after COVID happened.
This was six, eight months after COVID had happened.
She defied the lockdown.
God bless you, Lisa.
We appreciate your courage and your outspokenness, and we we hope to hear about a new business venture that you're involved in, and hopefully Tim Walls won't shut that one down, too.
Thank you so much, Gemma, and I very much appreciate being on.
I'm not trying to tell her what kind of business you should be.
Maybe like a prison pie or like, you know, lockdown latte, something I think.
Kennedy, let's like lean into the theme.
Just consider what you just said.
Uh, you know, at the beginning of the last hour, we talked about Kamala Harris refusing to prosecute uh so those Catholic church priests who had abused children.
They got off.
She went to jail.
Yeah.
That's justice under this ticket.
And the Minneapolis uh violent protesters.
Unbelievable, unbelievable.
We'll be back after this break.
Uh call us, please.
We'd love to hear your thoughts on what's coming next.
Hi, it's Peter Schweitzer.
I'm sitting here with Eric Eggers.
We are filling in for Sean Hannity.
Let's take a call.
Let's go to Karen in Florida.
Karen, hey, how are you?
I'm great.
Thanks for taking my call.
And I just had a statement.
I'm hearing all this back and forth about how Donald Trump should handle Kamala at the debate because she's a woman and everything.
And I'm thinking to myself, third world leaders aren't going to care if she's a woman or not.
I mean, leaders should be evaluated based on their confidence, their policy positions, and effectiveness.
So I just don't get the whole back and forth over this.
Yeah, Karen, I think you may make a really, really, really important point, and that is if you give her kick gloves and it's all soft and it's all protector, put her out in the real world when she's dealing with very, very difficult, nasty leaders.
She's not going to measure up.
She's not going to measure up.
She's not measured up in the last competitive political environment she was in when she got so little support.
She dropped out before the first primary was even cast in 2020.
Uh, she was widely considered before Joe Biden was forcibly removed from office to be not ready for prime time.
There's a book that you referenced earlier that came out earlier this year.
The Atlantic did a long profile and said there's top to bottom dysfunction.
She was not ready.
And yet, because Joe Biden was losing and she's an African American female, they weren't willing to go past her.
So she is now the de facto nominee.
We're now being sold and told that that's who the best option is.
Dana Bash, Tim Walsh are holding her hand on CNN tonight.
Uh, but that doesn't, to your point, change what it will be like when she's in the real world.
No, I think that's right.
Karen makes a great point.
And the question is are the American people going to see that?
Are the American people going to be too distracted from all the atmospherics, or are they going to actually pay attention and say this person is actually going to have to lead our country?
I think one of the things that scared people about Joe Biden's age was not just his age.
It was a fact that they said this guy doesn't necessarily have the strength to stand up for us.
And that's why we are not going to support him.
The question is is Kamala Harris?
She's got her full health, her full capabilities, but she lacks that strength as well, it seems.
Well, she's going to hold herself accountable to deadlines around time.
We know that.
And that CNN clip that came out earlier today.
And we know that because you did not fall out of a coconut tree.
I did not.
It's all about the context.
We'll see how many other softballs and soft serve questions Dana Bash spoon feeds her and Tim Walls.
That was really quite embarrassing.
The fact that they asked her question, they suggested two possible answers.
But at least maybe it's an interview.
And it's the beginning of hopefully more coverage, more questions.
We'll see what happens.
There will be a debate, so we know there'll be at least some accountability there.
Uh hey, speaking of accountability, Peter Schweitzer, you're the president of the government accountability institute.
Good job today.
Yeah, great job to you, Eric as well.
And thank you to Sean for giving us this microphone, trusting us for three hours.
You can find out about our podcast on thedrilldown.com, and we will keep investigating.
Thanks so much for joining us.
Thanks a lot, America.
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