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69 days till election day, and only 20 days early voting begins in Pennsylvania.
Uh mail in ballots go out even sooner in North Carolina, and then it rolls out all around the country.
Not enough time, really.
The media won't do their job.
They won't vet Kamala Harris or Tim Walls.
They are trying to run out the clock.
The media is assisting, they're aiding, they're uh betting.
You know, we learned from you know uh a Zuckerberg earlier in this week uh about Meta and the pressure that they faced by the FBI in the lead up to the 2020 election.
Uh as we had told you, the FBI had on March the 20th, they had verified the authenticity of Hunter Biden's laptop.
They also knew that Rudy Giuliani's attorney had a copy.
They were very aware that that laptop was likely going to be leaked.
It got leaked weeks before the 2020 election.
But in the ensuing time, after they verified its authenticity, the FBI was meeting weekly in the summer of 2020 with every big tech company warning them they might be a victim of a Russian disinformation campaign.
It might be about Joe Biden, it might be about Hunter Biden, it might be about Barisma.
They were pre-bunking what they knew was going to be made public all in an effort to help the Biden campaign.
That was their contribution.
And then, of course, you have 51 former Intel officials that knew nothing about Hunter's very real laptop.
Uh, this is all of the markings of uh Russian disinformation.
None of them examined it.
They were organized by Wink and Tony Blinken to just sign off on a letter to give a talking point before the debate that was about to take place with Donald Trump.
So we have powerful institutions that are clearly putting cinder blocks on the scales of our elections in this country.
It is it is corrupt, it is dangerous, it is a real threat to democracy, if you will, to use a phrase.
And it it just the weaponization just continues.
We have a Supreme Court decision as it relates to presidential immunity that it seems the special prosecutor does not really care about.
And we had just yesterday, now usually there's an what we considered it a 90-day rule, some referred to as a 60-day rule.
And it's very simple.
Is that the DOJ would not take any action against the candidate this close to an election?
We're only two weeks out of of mail-in ballots being sent to the American people in some states.
We are 20 days away from early voting beginning in Pennsylvania.
And then this indictment comes down.
Well, how is that not election interference?
And based on the history of not only 2020, as I just outlined for you, you know, how do you how do you not see this for what it is, and that is the weaponization of our Department of Justice.
It should scare every single solitary American.
And most people, unfortunately, will not be aware of it.
And it's our job to get this information out.
Anyway, joining us now away in on this, and we have other issues, and new tape has emerged when Nancy Pelosi takes responsibility for January the sixth is uh our friend David Schoen, civil rights attorney, former counsel for President Trump.
Um what whatever happened to the DOJ rule that you don't you don't take action like this before an election.
And is especially in light of what happened in 2020 when they knew that that laptop was very real, but they were pre-bunking it with big tech, and we heard from Zuckerberg this week admitting to all of this.
And then when the actual story came out in the New York Post, Zuckerberg and Facebook and Twitter at the time, not owned by Elon Musk, asked the FBI, is this what you were warning us about, or is is this real?
And they knew the answer and wouldn't tell them.
Yeah.
Well, as to the 60 day rule, the first question you have, they're clearly just ignoring it.
They're honoring it in its breach.
Yeah, and everyone's scrambling to try to justify it.
There's an article in Forbes right now that says, well, it's actually uh outside the 60-day window.
Well, that's not true.
As you pointed out, and I agree with everything you said, early election, early voting is starting now.
Every reason to not affect election applies now to the early election, not just the date in November a date in November.
Um and they've also said, well, that just applies to a new indictment.
That's also not true.
It's not just up to the court.
Now, Jack Smith made a an affirmative effort to come up with a new indictment now, uh, at a time period when he was just supposed to be reporting to the court as to how to proceed on parsing through the indictment they had to see which are official acts which aren't.
That's the directive the United States Supreme Court case.
So my question is this now let's go back to the Supreme Court decision here for a second, because the Supreme Court decision is very clear, and I think this because if you look at the new filing that they made, it's pretty much like the old filing, except they're just trying to get around the Supreme Court ruling, which is not surprising considering you know, they don't they they ignored the uh Supreme Court on the issue of of student loan forgiveness, etcetera.
Uh but putting that aside, the issue of immunity seems to be very clear, but that would also impact the convictions in New York, and we're expecting I I guess uh the the penalty phase to come up in in just a few weeks.
And but in that case, we know that they admitted evidence in that case that was from the time that Donald Trump was president, which I would think would compel Judge Mershawn, if he cared about the law, and he showed every indication he just cares about politics, uh, to vacate the guilty verdicts, and they'd have to start all over again and and they would have they they probably wouldn't even have a case to begin with.
Right.
You made a very important point because people keep overlooking.
The immunity decision wasn't just that a president has immunity from official acts.
It's official act evidence cannot be used before a grand jury to get an indictment or at trial, even if he's not charged with specific conduct, was covered by the official acts.
So in the New York case, you can be sure they used official act evidence from Donald Trump when he was president to both get the indictment and at trial.
And that's the problem with this new indictment in D.C. It still does that.
They include discussions and efforts with Vice President Pence.
The immunity decision says quite clearly, whenever the president and vice president discuss their official responsibilities, they engage in official conduct, presiding over the January 6th certification proceeding at which members of Congress count the electoral votes is a constitutional and statutory duty of the vice president.
That's very clear.
More than that, in this case, they've continued to charge him with obstruction.
The United States Supreme Court on June 28th of this year in the Fisher case said that this specific charge, 18 U.S.C.
1512 C2, Uh only applies to using impairing the use of documents, records, or other objects with respect to an official proceeding.
That's not what they said this case was all about.
This was about supposedly his speeches and talking to Vice President Trump and calls to Georgia and so on.
This case ought to be eliminated absolutely under the Fisher decision.
Two of the charges are this obstruction statute because they wanted to get a 20-year count.
They should have been thrown out immediately.
But in any event, the point is that you're making it as accurate.
They're still going to have to parse through this for the judge to determine what are official acts, what aren't official acts.
You know, uh Smith is trying to say, well, this grand jury never heard the evidence before.
That's because he wants to try to say they're not tainted by the other uh material that went before him.
But you know what's also noteworthy for all of this talk about it.
Donald Trump supposedly tried to affect the election and wouldn't permit the peaceful transfer of power.
They still have never charged him with insurrection, the statute of 2383, which was recommended in this model uh prosecution memo.
People like Andrew Wiseman, Norm Eisen are behind in several of the cases.
So there's so much here, but the 60-day rules should have barred this.
Uh they're just tone deaf, and Donald Trump ought to go soaring up in the polls.
One last issue is that you raised the appointments clause issue.
Should Jack Smith even be special counsel?
You know, there are two brilliant issues that Judge Cannon identified the appointments clause under Article 2, Section 2, um, as you mentioned, and then Article 1, Section 9, the appropriations clause, that you can't spend money for a purpose that's not authorized by law, and his appointment wasn't authorized by law.
The problem in the DC case is the lawyers never raised that issue, and they had to acknowledge that before the Court of Appeals when the Court of Appeals wanted to hear from it, and to Clarence Thomas, Justice Thomas, when he wanted to hear about it.
But let's see, maybe they'll raise it now with the new indictment.
All right, quick break.
We'll come right back for what David Schoen on the other side, and then we'll check in with our friend Dennis Quaid.
He's got his new movie coming out this week, and you definitely have to see it.
He's phenomenal at it.
Uh, it's called Reagan, and man, the parallels to what's going on in the world today versus what was happening in the late 70s, early 80s are uncanny.
Anyway, Dennis Quaid coming up uh after that, more with David Schoen on the other side as we continue.
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All right, we continue now with David Schoen, civil liberties attorney, former counsel for President Donald J. Trump.
Let me go back to another issue, and our friend John Solomon at JustHeNews.com actually has a tape.
Now, if you remember on January 6th, Nancy Pelosi's daughter was going around and taping her, and she said at one point she didn't even feel threatened and didn't want to be removed from the Capitol.
At another point, she actually took full responsibility for what happened on January 6th and said if she had done, you know, oh they they thought these people would would act civilized.
Listen.
We have responsibility, Terry.
We did not have any accountability for what was going on there, and we should have.
This is ridiculous.
Why weren't the National Guard there to begin with?
They thought that they had sufficient responsibility.
No, there's not a question of how they have they don't know.
They clearly didn't know, and I take responsibility for not having them.
Just prepare for war.
Because it's stupid that we should be in a situation like this.
Because they thought they had what?
They thought these people would act civilized.
They thought these people gave a damn.
And now there's even more to the story.
MBC, Lester Holt reported that in fact they knew that there was actionable intelligence the days before January 6th.
The Capitol Police Chief Sunned at the time, again, you know, Liz Cheney and and her, you know, uh January 6th committee that ignored the 574 riots in the summer of 2020 and the insurrection support of Kamala Harris and Tim Walls.
Um, you know, interestingly, interestingly, kept all of this information away from the American people because they had a predetermined outcome to bludgeon Donald Trump.
Uh, but it turned out the actionable intelligence and the request of the Capitol Police Chief went ignored again and again and again.
And in the days leading up to January 6th, uh Donald Trump himself and and five people combined in the Oval Office, including himself, uh, I have interviewed four of the five of them, all confirmed to me, including President Trump himself, that he authorized the National Guard to be called up.
And in writing, Muriel Bowser, the mayor, uh, refused to do so.
And they never went after Nancy Pelosi's text.
They never went after Nancy Pelosi's communications.
They never went after the sergeant of arms.
They never brought in the Capitol Police Chief, and they never brought in any of these people uh to actually give their side of the story, which is Donald Trump did approve the guard, and in writing, Muriel Bowser did not said no.
Listen.
Did you authorize calling up the guard?
And then it became the chain of command went to Nancy Pelosi and to the mayor of DC, Muriel Bowser.
Did you, as required by law, authorize that?
Uh one hundred percent.
And attested to by many people, and they turned it down.
Nancy Pelosi turned it down.
Mayor Bowser's written refusal.
The communications between the leader of the Capitol Police and their chain of command to the DOD refusing our request to allow National Guards men and women to stage on January 4 and 5 before January 6th.
Did you both ask for the National Guard to be called up?
Without a doubt, Sean, uh, we've made that very clear, not just once, but on numerous occasions.
We wanted to make sure that there was plenty of uh National Guard on the ready uh in case there was some kind of violence.
I had a meeting with President Trump on the 3rd of January concerning some international threats, and at the very end, he asked if there were any requests for National Guard support.
What was the president's response to you with regard to the request made by Mayor Bowser?
Fill it and do whatever was necessary to protect the uh demonstrators.
Wow.
I'll give you the last word.
Obviously, that was all a ruse and a lie and a setup.
Great job, Liz Cheney.
Yeah, President Trump has been clear about this from day one, but nobody wants to hear it because it's not convenient to their narrative.
It's one of the many reasons that the January 6th committee was a sham.
It's not just the conflicts of interest for Chairman Thompson who sued President Trump over January 6th, then took on the leadership.
Remember, Nancy Pelusi says in that tape, she takes responsibility.
Yeah, she took responsibility by ensuring that there wasn't a single member on that committee who would investigate her conduct, her misconduct uh in office, her failings in office.
That's why Jordan and Banks and other people in McCarthy wanted on that committee, weren't permitted on the committee.
It was skewed from the beginning.
It was a sham, and that's a terrible disservice to the American people.
David Schoen, we appreciate you being with us.
Thank you, my friend.
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You know, we always say that as conservatives, we want good movies.
And half the stuff that you I mean that you watch in the movie theaters these days, it just is mindless problem.
I just can't take it.
I mean, I I once had a little foray into my one little movie that I I ended up financing.
I didn't make a lot of money on it, but I wasn't trying to make money on it.
Let there be light, and I'm very proud of how it came out.
And you could still one day rent it if you if you're bored.
I think it has a great message.
And it it reinforces values that I like and admire, and I did it because I got sick and tired of seeing movies that I couldn't stand and I thought were terrible.
and now Collywood has gotten worse than ever.
And they've gotten more political than ever.
And um I was watching you know the coverage about Reagan the movie and I I got an early copy of this.
I watched it the movie is phenomenal.
It's not just good, it is phenomenal.
And it stars Dennis Quaid who I think is one of the most talented versatile actors I've ever seen in my life.
Now you might remember him as the great dad in the parent trap and then probably the meanest SOB dad I've ever seen in my life in the movie that I've watched probably eighty times I can only imagine.
It's about the hit song by Mercy Me, I can only imagine.
And he's such a talented, gifted actor and his ability to capture Reagan in this movie is uncanny.
And and I'm a person that you know fell in love with politics because of Ronald Reagan.
And I watched every moment of his presidency that I could possibly watch.
And I mean it just captured the man, the spirit also the the times very similar to where we were in the late seventies and early eighties, the times we're living in today and inflation and assassination attempts and you know just out of control government and and a weak president and and here we are we find ourselves you know a cold war going on a battle with Russia and you know craziness in the Middle East.
I mean the parallels are uncanny.
The timing couldn't be any better.
And then I'm reading that and that there are many outlets that don't want to either carry the movie or they're boycotting the movie or that people don't want to promote the movie.
And I'm like this is so wrong on so many different levels.
Let me play the trailer then we'll check in with Dennis Quaid's nothing a retired governor can do about the Soviets but a president now he can do a thing or two.
Welcome to life I was a lifeguard on a river.
There's no turning and I learned how to read the currents not just the ones on the surface but also the ones deep underneath the water I am about to start the biggest war of this century.
And I'm not gonna fire a single shot.
You're gonna blow up eight years of diplomacy well if you think that got your end easy than what you just wait.
What did the president know?
And when did he know it?
What would you have me do?
I want you to fight Mr Gerbertock tear down this wall our friend actor he stars in the movie Reagan it is in theaters as of Friday.
You can get your tickets online it's at Reagan Movie dot com.
Now if great movies like this aren't successful you're not gonna get more great movies like this.
It's really that simple.
Anyway we welcome uh to the program Dennis Quaid uh sir how are you you you were phenomenal in this movie I loved every aspect of it.
How did you like doing it?
Oh thank you Sean and uh really thank you for having me on.
I can't think of a better venue to promote Reagan and to get the word out for everybody to go see it.
Yeah, you nailed it right there about the times back when Reagan was elected, 1979, 1980.
The times were so similar to today.
High inflation.
We had hostages over there in the Middle East within Iran.
We have hostages today that nobody's talking about it.
Not enough, except on your program.
We get gas prices, oil, just so much.
many similarities to a feeling of malaise in this country and like who's in charge and what's getting done and along came Reagan and said we're not a nation in decline.
We are going this way and everybody followed him and uh the Reagan uh governed and lived his wife on principles that I think uh is what everybody is missing today and what we can have here come November.
I'm listening to to you and I'm listening.
Tell me about the the the reason why and what you've had to endure.
I mean here's a a movie about one of the one of the greatest presidents I believe in American history, certainly in our lifetime.
And why is there any reluctance or any resistance of anybody in the media or in Hollywood to not support this movie?
Why is that?
Well, it's it's Facebook mostly and uh I was really glad of your program last night you were really all over it.
Uh like I wish I'd could see uh the other uh networks and news outlets as well.
Facebook uh about two weeks ago we uh we discovered that Facebook has been uh censoring and uh uh outright banning and suspending accounts on uh advertising and promotion of of Reagan.
They uh they uh censored a few of uh the podcasts that I had done, including with Joe Rogan and uh Jonathan uh Peterson as well.
And uh Reagan uh the reason being was uh that it was an attempt to influence an election.
Well the last time I heard Reagan was on the ballot forty years ago, and uh even if he was, it would be uh he couldn't uh run because he completed his two terms of the term limits.
So I wrote a letter to uh uh news which wound up to be an article in Newsweek, uh from our position and uh which was basically that Facebook by banning and censoring advertising of Reagan that it was an attempt by them to influence an election by keeping in information from the public.
The way uh we see it.
And uh Facebook apologized two hours later after the article came out in Newsweek and said it was their automatic systems that they blamed it on.
You know, they were set up by I don't know what their algorithms are or whatever, but that it wouldn't happen again, and then three days later it was business as usual.
The same thing is uh continued to happen and ha and is happening even today.
Uh and uh so yesterday when uh the news broke about uh Mark Zuckerberg uh you know, admitting uh coming clean as it were, uh about being coerced by the the Biden administration.
It uh it uh a lot of things became clear, but uh I still think it's getting the runaround, if you ask me, and this is a free country, free free speech.
And uh really glad someone like you is getting the word out about it.
Well it's my pleasure.
I look I I met you one time and I told you I I don't know how you do it.
Um I I I watched you in the parent trap.
You're the nicest dad in the entire world, although you you didn't really exactly have the best fiance at the time.
Um and and you're in this great movie, Lindsay Lohan was phenomenal in that movie when she was younger.
I mean, I thought she was.
And uh and you do this great job.
Then I I fell in love with the song I can only imagine.
I was so glad they did a movie about it.
It's by Mercy Me, and it became one of the biggest selling songs of all time.
And you played the mean SOB dad.
And how you go from being the nicest dad to the meanest SOB in the world, I don't know, but you pulled it off.
And then I watch you in the Reagan movie.
I think it's always very hard to play, you know, some a historic figure like this, especially one that people are familiar with.
But I mean, you nailed every aspect of the Reagan that I studied and knew my entire life.
Well, I tell I I how do you how do you do that?
Um is what I'm asking.
Well, I I tell every person over thirty, you know, that I was your babysitter because of pav parent trap.
They put it on like they were in the other room doing what they wanted to do.
And uh thank you, Parrot Drabb, he gave me a second career.
Uh I can only imagine uh Bart Millard, who was you know, who wrote I can only imagine, uh was on the set just about every day uh and glad for him to do it.
Must have been Difficult for him to watch all these traumatic scenes of his childhood being played out uh in front of him.
And uh I uh really uh I really thank God for that role.
Uh oh my god, when you hit him over the head with the plate, I'm like, oh my gosh.
So when uh wait when your wife of the time and his mother moved out and he comes back from camp and and I I I I I just never saw such rage.
Unfortunately, those those are real stories.
That was a real st based on a true story.
With a such a beautiful story of of redemption, uh, in the end of it, and you know, that's how people uh come to Christ and uh sometimes, and uh you know, it's like the impossible is possible.
It can be done, as Reagan used to say.
But that was offered Reagan uh in twenty eighteen, and uh at the time I I had a shiver of fear go up my spine, which is usually a sign that I shouldn't do that because I'm out of my comfort zone.
But with Reagan, it was uh I didn't say yes and I didn't say no, but I didn't exactly see myself playing him at the time, and uh I everybody knows what he's like Mohammed Ali.
Uh you know, you show a picture of Reagan to somebody anywhere in the world, and they they know who he is and what he sounds like and walks like, and um so I we I wanted to get to the person behind the public persona as a human being.
And I was invited up to the Reagan Ranch uh a couple of weeks later, and uh I went up uh went up there, and it was the Western White House, you know, and uh after Reagan died, some friends bought it and kept it exactly as it was.
He and Nancy's clothes are still in the closet.
Uh they had a king size bed, but it was two single beds that were zip tied together.
And uh I went up five miles of the worst road in California and came through the gates, and I felt Ronald Reagan right there.
Like I said, this place is not open to the public, but I could feel that Reagan was a humble man.
He was not a rich man, and uh he was there and in the work that uh they uh said he did, he actually did on the property, dug those ponds, made those fences, and uh just feel his spirit permeated the entire place, and that's when I said yes, and we wound up actually shooting on the Reagan Ranch for three weeks.
You're doing all those historical scenes that uh you know, you're standing right there in that same spot, and uh it uh really did a lot to help.
Um you did an amazing job.
I gotta also point out our dear friend of this program, John Void, who we love, he's in the movie.
Uh uh Penelope and Miller uh plays Nancy Reagan.
I thought she did a phenomenal job also.
Uh anyway, it opens Friday.
It's in if you want good movies, you gotta support good movies when they come out.
This is one of them.
It's Reagan.
Now you can get your tickets online, Reagan Movie uh dot com uh or Reagan.movie for ticket information.
And I'm telling you right now, you're gonna love this movie.
And it it's it's gonna be the the parallels between the events of today and the events back then.
It just shows what I've always said that is conservative principles work, and I think all of it's in play in this election.
Um it's been very nice get to get to know you.
You were very nice to me when we met, and um I'm I I think you should be very proud of this movie, and I wish all the success with it.
I'm sorry that you've had difficulty uh and some censorship and some politics behind all of it, but I wish uh I hope everyone in this audience goes to see it this weekend.
Reagan movie.com or Reagan.movie for ticket information, and and we appreciate uh Dennis you being with us, Dennis Quaid, thank you.
You bet.
Anybody anybody that was born before nineteen eighty-five, you'll be able to see and remember how great this country was.
Anybody born after 1985, you'll get a glimpse of how great this country still can be.
Amen.
Well said.
Dennis Quaid.
Appreciate it.
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