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Uh here to get a snapshot of where we are and more importantly, what the messaging ought to be.
I mean, if you read the news today, you would think that Kamala Harris now is is a conservative.
Uh, you know, it's I I mean, she can't think of any ideas on her own.
She she clearly forgot that on in August of 2022 that she cast the tie-breaking vote in favor of the inflation reduction act, uh, which gave the IRS an additional eighty billion dollar budget over the next ten years, uh, including a sixty-nine percent increase for their enforcement budget and you know the funding to incrementally hire eighty-seven thousand new uh employees.
Uh they obviously forgot that the Biden Harris IRS plan was to crack down on tips.
I mean, this is just the latest in what is a long line of flipping and flopping and flailing, you know, to to appear to be something that they're not.
And that is that they they want to seem as moderate as possible.
We are going over her flip-flops.
Uh I'm I'm I'm in favor of a fracking ban.
Well, her campaign knows she doesn't support a fracking ban.
I want to expand Medicare for all Americans, including illegal immigrants, and offer them free health care and decriminalize the illegal immigration and offer free health care and free education.
And Tim Walls wants free college education.
Now there's saying she no longer supports the single payer health insurance plan.
I support a mandatory gun buyback program.
Well, now she does not support such a thing.
But of course, we're not hearing from her directly.
We're hearing from her campaign.
Uh we welcome back to the program, our pollsters, Matt Towery, Insider Advantage, Robert Cahale, the Trafalgar Group.
Uh welcome both of you to the program.
Uh I want to go through there's a lot of information you guys have discovered in your polling that I want to go through.
Let's start with the swing states.
Matt, we'll start with you and where we let's get a snapshot where we are.
Uh, because if you believe the New York Times, oh, the the Kamala's running away with this race, and every pollster I know said it is flawed to a level that is just unprecedented.
Well, I'll give you the numbers that I did, and then Robert can give you his.
Uh insider vantage poll, Michigan.
We had uh Harris up by two.
That's uh substantially lower than the eleven.
That was the number that came out last week for Morning Console.
In other words, a close race there.
Insider Vantage Poll, Wisconsin.
There, Trump was up by one.
That's obviously different from the New York Times.
And then we did a tracking poll in Georgia, which we did not release because it's just tracking from our last vote, which we just did days ago.
Trump was up by about a point thereabouts in Georgia.
So all of these races that we poll were very close.
Robert can tell you the states that he polls.
And that was after, you know, the the little skirmish went on with Governor Kemp, which now seems to have repaired itself.
Uh, and I know for a fact that it's it's repaired, but you know, we'll have more on that in the days ahead.
Robert, let's get your polling.
Well, in Arizona, we had Trump up by one.
Uh, we had him up at two in Pennsylvania.
Uh, three in Nevada, and up uh four in North Carolina.
Okay.
So, you know, considering she's out of honeymoon, I would say overall good news for Donald Trump in every way.
Now let's get into the messaging issue.
What are you finding out from voters that is resonating the most with them?
And if you've if Donald Trump called both of you, what would you tell him the best message is to get out to voters, especially in these swing states, Matt Towery?
Well, first of all, we're finding the economy and economic issues like inflation are the overwhelming issue.
The border has been blunted, to be honest with you, Sean.
Republicans wasted time and didn't educate the public about the border for months and months and months, and now fifty percent of our respondents said that they did could not confirm that Kamala Harris was the border czar in every single state that Robert and I polled.
So clearly that's a slipping issue.
What's coming up is the economy, everyone basically said that was their number one issue.
The other thing I would say is don't bother with the Well, let me ask you this.
What about ads uh that would have Lincoln Riley's family or Rachel Morin's family or Jocelyn Nungarry's family?
Would would that effectively change that narrative?
If they were to tie it to Harris and explain it, but to be honest with you, I would think that's secondary right now to the economy because that is the one issue that was moving voters.
And the other thing I would tell Donald Trump is the Trump overall effort needs some rapid response advertising.
I'm in Ohio right now, which is not a swing state, but Sherrod Brown is on, and he's doing the exact same thing Harris is doing, just convincing everyone that he's a conservative.
And as Harris runs these ads in these in these battleground states, they're shifting, they're they're taking some of Trump's own issues and acting like they're theirs.
Unless there's rapid response to explain this stuff, you got a short period of time, about 40 days to get this campaign stabilized.
Because if it is not stabilized, these numbers will go south.
I can tell you because the independent number had really dropped since the last time that we polled uh this race just a few weeks ago.
So basically they're lying and and just making it up and being protected by the media is somewhat effective.
Are you getting the same results, Robert Cahaley?
Absolutely.
We're we're we're seeing uh a deterioration, and and it really is the just this mainstream media just let letting her just say things unchecked and letting putting out information unchecked.
I mean, for example, in in Georgia yesterday, they were running very effective ads saying that she'll clean up the border and how she supported a border bill.
I mean, this stuff is not being questioned.
What I would tell you is Well, I'm I'm trying to understand this here.
I mean, she passes the tiebreaking vote for the inflation reduction act to hire the IRS agents that are going to go after tips of of service workers.
Uh she's the border czar.
We've had 11 million unvetted illegal immigrants.
Now she's trying to act tough on the border, but part of her plan when she was in Arizona was a path to citizenship or quote amnesty, if you want to just describe it in accurate terms.
Who is telling people that?
You're telling people that, but who is telling average voters that that only listen to mainstream media?
Everything you're said is right on.
But what what needs to happen is more advertisement with her own voice saying these things and being contradicted by what she's saying now.
The most effective thing against Kamala Harris is her own voice, her own words saying these things so she can be boxed in.
Well, I've got on my website, I call them the Kamala Files and the Walls files.
I mean, this is the most radical extreme ticket in history.
I've I've not seen those ads of her in her own words on on any of these topics.
I could I could run through my list for the 400th time, but um it's it's all there available if anybody wants it, they can hear it themselves and share it with their friends and their coworkers and their neighbors and strangers.
I don't care.
It's it's for free on Hannity.com, Matt Towery.
Yeah, I mean, yeah, if if if if you are the one man campaign, Trump would be winning.
I think what Robert and I are seeing, because we're in these battleground ground states is that the Democrats have just overwhelmed the airwaves with the very thing that we just talked about.
They're they're basically adopting things that they think are popular of Trump's, and at the same time attacking and and and basically gaslighting everything else, and there is nothing to answer it.
The ads are generic.
They don't reply specifically.
They don't come up fast enough.
When you go to YouTube right now, every time you go to YouTube, there's a Harris campaign commercial.
No one's seeing any commercials from Trump.
So he is one of the people.
But but how do you get away with saying on day one I'm going to fix inflation?
I'm going to I'm going to fix the disaster at the border after three years of lying and saying that the borders closed and the borders secure.
How do you get away with now proposing and copying Donald Trump and and we're not going to tax tips for service workers when she was the tie-breaking vote against it?
You know, how how come people need to be educated on such basic fundamental issues?
But nobody is telling the voters that.
I mean, we know that Trump said he wanted to uh get rid of the tax on tips first.
But you know, he said it in a few rallies.
She was the tie-breaking vote in favor of it.
But who they don't know that.
Voter fact.
I mean, that sounds great, but until until it's out on uh on on uh an ad that can penetrate past this media that will not tell them that.
This mainstream media, Yahoo news, Apple News, Google News, where most people get most of their news, quite frankly.
They have no idea about this.
And we have harked on this for months, saying the public should have been educated.
That didn't happen.
And now with eighty days to go, there are some Republican groups who don't even plan to run ads until 40 days before the election.
The election will be over by then.
Well, early voting starts uh a lot sooner, as I've been pointing out.
So these to me are the big issues, and tell me if I have the order wrong and what order you would put them in.
And number one, the economy inflation.
Everybody knows I've gone over it many times.
They're feeling it every day.
They're feeling it in rent, mortgage payments, every item they buy, every store they go to.
Okay.
Number issue number one.
Issue number two is they have allowed eleven million unvetted illegal immigrants, even from countries with terror ties and our top geopolitical foes.
Issue number three is law and order and safety and security in small towns, big cities.
They've been part of the defund dismantle no Bell Madness.
No fracking, no drilling, walls and Harris are on record saying both, although their campaigns are trying to walk that back.
And lastly, I would say national security, and that is they surrendered in the war on terrorism.
She doesn't even want to use the words radical Islamic terrorism or illegal alien.
Robert.
I think that you're hitting the right point.
It is it is essential that some of I mean just some of the basic things that Trump says, uh like the fact that the price of oil is the reason Russia and uh Iran have money, and that the Green New Deal calls that.
That you know, sho show the correlation between that and the terrorism and what happened in Ukraine.
Make the point that these people have voted against this that created this.
But you've got to get her and her own words advocating this list.
Your list is right, but we have to hear her and her own words saying the opposite of what she's saying now with the help of the mainstream media.
All right, quick break.
More with our pollsters uh from Insider Advantage, Matt Towery, also uh joining us, Robert Cahaley with the Trafalgar Group, 800-941.
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All right, we continue with our pollsters, Matt Towery, Insider Advantage, and Robert Kahaley, the Trafalgar Group.
Matt, I have set out to deputize.
We're on 750 stations around the country.
We have one of the top cable news shows in the country.
And I've set out to deputize every single one of my listeners and viewers to go to my website, Hannity.com and download Kamala in her own words, Tim Walls in his own words.
Now that we know that he lied about his rank, and now that we know that he lied about being in a war zone, uh, which is is seems to be hitting critical mass at this point, and then and they scrubbed his bio on his website and they said, Oh, he made a mistake when he said he was in a war zone.
Uh you don't make a mistake on something that that's called stolen valor.
So I would say if everybody in this audience would take it upon themselves to download this information and pass it on to their friends, family, neighbors, co-workers, and and strangers.
I mean, would that help?
Or does this have to be done in a very expensive ad campaign of these PACs and and I guess the campaign, I don't know who runs what.
Well, well, both have to happen, but you can't have fire with fire.
I mean, the Democrats are running ads left and right.
They're paid for when they penetrate, they're well targeted, they know who they're getting to.
I was going to add one other thing.
One of the things that what we saw in our poll was that Wall's policy in Minnesota to give every illegal migrant a driver's license and a free college tuition.
Everyone in the poll reacted negatively to that.
So, in in a sense, the liberal policies that um Harris has espoused that she's going to claim she hasn't passed, have actually been passed in Minnesota.
Well, what are their other stated positions that you because you were asking very specifically?
I I can't go over the hundred and fifty pages and in of information you've gathered.
What specific statements that they made resonate the most?
Well, one is when she said that she's woke and she thinks everyone should be woke.
Another was when, of course, Walls uh provided uh or helped pass that legislation to give everyone who's an illegal migrant in in Minnesota free free college tuition, except for the youngest of voters.
That went through the roof that people didn't like.
And of course, the economy when you give them the actual facts.
And you quote Joe Biden saying that he's cured the economy, and then her quote where she says bidynomics is great, we love bidynomics.
It doesn't take a rocket scientist to then tie that to twenty-five percent increase in in the overall cost of groceries in the last four years.
But what Robert and I are saying is as much as it's great to get all the people who listen to all these shows to do it, unless these packs and campaigns get out there right now and put this sort of stuff out, this deterioration in the polls is going to continue for Trump.
So they have got to they they they can't wait any longer.
And they have a lot of money, at least the campaign from my understanding does.
I don't know anything about PACs or who has what PAC or how much money they have, but I would assume, like the Democrats, they there are a lot of PACs out there.
I know there are laws governing coordination, et cetera, but that's that's a message that I would sure assume that every PAC would want to know.
And then they could target based on those issues.
Anyway, I appreciate both of you.
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In light of what Matt Towery and Robert Cahaley just said in the last half hour, I guess it's worth, you know, revisiting and revisiting and revisiting, and that is Kamala Harris and Tim Walls in their own words.
Because and then we have all of this available on Hannity.com, the Kamala files, the Tim Walls files, all the audio.
You can download it.
You can look at we have lists of every radical thing they've ever done and said, and you could share it with your friends, your family, your co-workers, and strangers.
Because the media's never going to do their job.
They're never going to.
We'll play Kamala first, then we'll play Tim Walls.
Do you ban plastic straws?
I think we should.
Yes.
I think there's no question that we've got to critically reexamine ICE and its role and the way that it is being Administered and the work it is doing.
So would you ban offshore drilling?
Yes.
And I've again worked on that.
I believe if someone crosses over the border, it's illegally, it is illegal, and you would you would decriminalize it.
I would not make it a crime punishable by jail.
Back to the United States Congress.
Here's my point.
If they fail to act as president of the United States, I am prepared to get rid of the filibuster to pass a Green New Deal.
Will you commit to implementing a federal ban on fracking your first day in office?
Adding the United States to the list of countries who have banned this devastating practice.
There's no question I'm in favor of banning fracking.
For too long, the status quo thinking has been you get more safety by putting more cops on the street.
Well, that's wrong.
We have to have a buyback program, and I support a mandatory buyback program.
It's got to be smart.
We got to do it the right way.
So I am offering a Green New Deal that has been described as one of the most aggressive and progressive.
So as president, one of the first acts of business for me would be to get rid of these private detention centers and private prisons.
We will eliminate private prisons.
Um eliminate cash bail.
I've been a leader on that in the United States Senate.
Under my plan, there will also be a a carbon fee.
We have to monitor whether it's going to be passed on to consumers.
So these are some of the ways, but we've got to increase the corporate tax rate.
We also have to increase taxes for the top one percent.
I want to ask you directly.
Governor Wallace, are you a progressive or are you a centrist?
I'm a progressive.
Oh, okay.
I think moving for progress is uh what many are, and I don't think you're you're tied in that I think that moves you along a spectrum, but we have to move forward.
Protecting and supporting access to gender-affirming health care is essential to being a welcoming and supportive state to the community.
This is that catch 22.
The more police are there, the more tension it is.
The more tension it is, the more chance you have to get things.
There's there's no guarantee to free speech on misinformation or or hate speech, and especially around our democracy.
Minnesota be a sanctuary state.
Uh if the definition of that is that the federal government um enforces immigration law and local law enforcement enforces local law, then yes.
Should cities be allowed to be sanctuary cities?
Yes.
Local control.
But we can do background checks.
We can do CDC research, we can make sure we don't have reciprocal carry among states, and we can make sure that those weapons of war that I carried in war is the only place where those weapons are.
We saw large peaceful protests focusing on the systemic changes that get to the heart of why we're in this situation.
A society that does not put equity and inclusion at the center of it is certainly going to uh eventually uh come to the places where we're at.
I don't think the mayor knew what he was asking for.
He wanted the National Guard, and what does that mean?
I think to the mayor, yes, I think it's a perception.
I'm certainly not questioning that.
I think the mayor said I requested National Guard.
Who I'm out this is great.
We're gonna have massively trained troops.
No, you're gonna have 19-year-olds who are cooks in some cases, and what are we gonna do and how are we going to use them?
This is the most radical.
I know they're trying to present themselves as people that they're not.
I know that they're trying to moderate their views.
I know that they're oh uh even though Kamala is the deciding vote on tips for service workers, part of the inflation reduction act.
Oh, all of a sudden let me steal Donald Trump's ideas and and sound like a conservative.
Oh, I'm never I'm in favor of banning fracking, but not anymore, because the um now I'm gonna be a presidential candidate.
You know, I want Medicare for all and eliminate all private health insurance, but not anymore.
And we're supposed to believe this.
I want a mandatory gun buyback program.
That's called confiscation.
But now the campaign says, uh no, never mind.
Defund, dismantle, no bail laws, sanctuary cities and states.
You would think she's the toughest person, you know, on the border in the country.
I'm gonna deal with inflation on day one.
I'm gonna fix the border.
Well, she's the incumbent.
What has she done the last four years?
It's and and the media gives them a pass.
The media is so corrupt, they are so abusively biased.
It's you talk about an information crisis, it's never been this bad.
All right, let's get to our busy uh telephones here.
All right, Nate in Maryland.
Nate, you're on the Sean Hannity show.
How are you, sir?
Hey, Sean, good to talk to you.
Um I called because I have a little bit different take on the uh the stolen valor angle with walls.
And and I think you know it's getting a lot of coverage, but I think it's detracting from the stuff that he really needs to be hit on, and that's uh illegal immigration, his record, you know, during the riots of all people not call in the National Guard when he was in in the National Guard, obviously knows how that process works.
Well, it was family wanted to smell burning rubber because they wanted to take it in the moment of of history that was unfolding, you might recall.
Yeah.
Well, so and I think it's I think the criticism is valid, but I I think it's it's not going to land with the folks that it really need that really need to be convinced, and that I mean that's the young professional crowd, the s the suburbs.
Those it's too nuanced, it's too nitpicky, and people are gonna ignore it, and they're gonna say why why is it nitpicky to claim you went to a war zone when you didn't?
Why is it nitpicky to say you were part of Operation Enduring Freedom and you weren't?
Why is it nitpicky, you know, to to say that you you carried this weapon of of war and that's the only place it should be carried.
You never went to a war zone, you know, and that everybody that was in the his guard unit says that.
Now, remember it was a big issue for George W. Bush, even though there was no issue.
Dan rather lost his job over this.
Yeah, I I mean I remember and it so my background, uh I've been active duty army for fifteen years.
You know, I'm I still serve now.
Um Thank you.
I've been yeah, uh I've been deployed many times, several of them combat, several several of them non combat.
And I'm just telling you from my perspective, I think it's stealing airtime from the stuff that is really gonna land with the people that need to be convinced.
This it I I'm not Well, listen, we just heard from our posters.
What did they say?
Inflation economy, immigration, definitely law and order is up there and safety and security, energy's up there, and America's role in the world.
If if we focus on all of that, and we can also talk about them in their own words.
That's why you know, he I think I don't think most Americans have heard what I just played for you, and that's not even that's just the tip of the iceberg what I'm playing for you.
Yeah, I I agree.
I just think right now the story, if you go go to any, you know, go to any website right now, the lead story is gonna be this stolen valor piece, and I don't think it's gonna land.
And I just I get it, it's valid, it's valid criticism.
I don't think it's what we need to be focused on, specific to Waltz.
That that's my point.
Appreciate your insight.
I don't you know, I just think we can do it all.
We can walk and shoe gum.
I think it's all important in my view, but I appreciate your call.
I really do.
Uh back to our busy phones, uh, Kevin Colorado, next Sean Hannity show.
Hi.
Hi, Sean.
Thanks for taking my call.
Thank you.
What's going on?
I'm a I'm a worker, uh, work in a natural gas field, considered an independent, but uh I lean conservative.
And I was watching uh pretty much the whole RNC uh get out to early voting.
Um are you better off four years ago?
But I don't hear that so much now during speeches and and advertisements and stuff.
And I just think that that's an area that I think that the messaging needs to be improved is, is where are you better now or in the past?
It's funny you say this because Donald Trump's back on X today.
He hasn't been on there in a long time.
And this is Donald Trump's uh ex post.
Are you better off now than uh are you better off now than you were when I was president?
Our economy shattered, our border has been erased, we're a nation in decline.
Make the American dream affordable again, make America safe again, make America great again.
Donald Trump.
Then he put up a post.
Meet San Francisco radical Kamala Harris.
He posted that on X. And he posted, you know, another video on X. So he's out there.
No, I you know, maybe I'm just thinking more about when you do in the speeches.
Some people might not be on the X or on social truth social or not, and I just think it's just if it's an opportunity to to do it uh in all types of communication, maybe maybe that's an area that for me I just I just I don't see that messaging, and I think it would add value to to those.
And then my last part is suggestion is that maybe the RNC too, because when he was in Butler, he had his big uh whiteboard up and he was making comparisons.
I think they should do that uh at every gathering that they go to.
Make it do the comparison against the Democrats and let everybody see the facts.
Appreciate the call.
800-941 Sean, if you want to be a part of the program.
Uh let's say hi to Rod in Mississippi.
Ron, how are you?
Glad you called.
What's on your mind today?
Sean, thanks for taking my call.
You're a great American.
Thank you for what you do.
Uh thank you, my friend.
We got a lot of work to do.
Thirty three year retired cop here.
And you know, uh I I I'm on a uh beat uh a dead horse here a little bit.
Uh uh call it that, but I wanted to get your take on uh well, you think when Nancy Crazy Mansy went out to strong arm Joe uh out at the beach house.
Did he turn around and tell Jill to sit down and sh turn around and tell Jill to sit down and shut up?
We haven't heard anything from Jill Biden.
We hadn't heard anything from the bis.
Well, Biden actually admitted this weekend that he was pushed out of the presidential race, and he did name drop Pelosi in the first interview, and uh Pelosi says she hasn't spoken to him.
And and it's clear that the Democratic elites kicked him out, threw him out on his ass, and he didn't re you know, if it's not what he wanted to do.
And this little switcheroo is, you know, created Kamalamania for a period.
I think that you know, Byron York had a good piece.
He said, you know, th this this over exuberance, this enthusiasm, it's going to wane.
At some point she's gonna have to talk.
And at some point they're gonna have to answer questions.
And if they don't, then we just keep playing them in their own words.
I think Towery and Cahaley are correct.
I think the strategy of them in their own words is the most effective weapon we have against them, politically speaking, not a real weapon, okay, for those idiots out there that would misinterpret that on purpose because they're morons.
However, but you know what I'm saying, politically speaking, you just play them in their own words, let people hear, and if this is the direction America wants, statism, Marxism, radicalism, then you are gonna reap what you sow.
We will get the government we deserve, whether we like it or not.
And if you don't take I don't know, there's an urgency I've never felt in my life.
I'm trying to convey it every day, and I all I see is a complicent complicit compliant media that is an extension of this campaign.
That's all they are.
And they're dishonest about it.
If they're at least honest about it, I'd say, all right, well, at least you're being honest about it.
They're not honest.
They just hide it.
They claim to be journalists, they're full of Adam Schiff.
Well, thank you, Sean.
Thank you for what you do, and I watch you every night.
Thank you.
God bless you.
Don't you think I look better with makeup on?
You look great, man.
You're looking good.
All right, my friend.
God bless you.
Uh, we got a minute left.
Braxton, Colorado.
This minute's all yours.
Go, sir.
Hey, Sean.
I am a ranch cowboy from Colorado.
And my family owns ranches and cows in Minnesota and Colorado.
And uh, you know, we've seen what Tim Walls has done in Minnesota.
I've seen what Jared Polis has done here in Colorado.
And uh, you know, we've seen the it's effects of what's happened.
But with both of these cases, I've seen it with Jared Polis several years ago, and I'm seeing it with Tim Walls now.
Um they really try to, you know, lie their way through it.
Like we've seen Tim Walls do with several other several other things here.
And uh, you know, they really try to make it look like they care and they try to make it look like they're out there working and building fence and petting the cows and things like that.
But do you really think that it swings any rural voters?
Or do you think everybody kind of sees through the BS like me?
You know, first of all, I think ranching and cowboy uh, you know, work is very cool, and thanks for feeding all of us.
Uh I'm a big meat eater.
Um, uh, but number that's number one.
Number two, um, it's hard.
If the country understands who they are, we win.
They can't win if America fully understands who they are.
That's my contention.
Listen, there are days when I feel a lot of stress.
You know what I wish I was doing?
I wish I was hanging out with you on the ranch on a horse.
I don't know what the hell I'm doing with cowboy, but I'd try it.
You'd teach me how to do it.
Oh, I'm uh changing in tune with it, you know.
But people don't understand that, you know.
How many years would it take me to get halfway decent at it?
Well, you know, if I whip you up into shape, we could probably do it in a year, but I might take you up on it one day.
All right, man.
Appreciate the call.
God bless you.
800, 941 Sean, if you want to be a part of the program.
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