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JD Vance - July 15th, Hour 1

Sean breaks down the VP choice for Donald Trump, JD Vance, and looks at his background and how it can help President Trump truly understand America even better.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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That would be in the uh great state of Pennsylvania, then rolling out across the country.
And we are literally maybe within an hour, two hours of hearing who uh Donald Trump has chosen for vice president.
All indications are it is Ohio Congress, Ohio Senator J. D. Vance.
Uh, although there's still a little bit of intrigue on the sidelines, but from every source indication I have, it's uh gonna be JD, and we're gonna watch.
Um I have been on the air a lot, but I've not been on the radio waves since the shooting that took place uh of Donald Trump at this rally in Pennsylvania.
And I have a lot to say about it.
Number one, it just shows you how life can really hang in the balance, doesn't it?
I mean, if we're a millimeter uh in another direction, Donald Trump is no longer on this earth, and we're talking about a state funeral.
I mean, if you really let absorb that, it is pretty unbelievable.
And that's where we are as unfortunately as a country.
I have a lot of thoughts about the left in this country, their incendiary rhetoric.
Unlike them, I'm not gonna blame anybody but the people, and it might be people, not one person, but I don't blame the person themselves for their actions, but there is a discussion this country needs to have as it relates to the incendiary, insane, radicalized rhetoric of this new Marxist Socialist Democratic Party because it is cancer, it is destructive, they have dehumanized this man.
They have they have done everything possible to destroy him.
Um I'm not gonna lie and and say that I am surprised by what happened.
I had said to many of my friends, I that I pray that I'm wrong, but I fear that Donald Trump, you know, that there are so many people out there that have been and been taught to believe and conditioned mentally to believe that he is the devil incarnate and evil that in fact they will think that they're doing God's will if they try to take him out.
The mob, the media, state-run media, and the Democratic Party, and I've got all their tapes.
We have a catalog that I can spend an entire program on that will chronicle this for you.
And we got this close that President Trump's ear was was in fact pierced with a bullet, wasn't grazed with a bullet, pierced with a bullet.
And it is, you know, there's there's there's no doubt.
I mean, President Trump actually said today, I'm I'm actually somebody who's who's should be dead.
And it was that close.
I have real anger towards what is a massive security failure in this country that this should not happen in the United States of America in this day and age.
You know, I when I went on the air Saturday night, we did two hours on Saturday night on Fox.
We were told our reporter on the scenes.
I said, Well, how far away was the rooftop?
And and the these look, but reporters on the ground in the moment, something happening.
They're doing the best they can with, and then they're trying to accumulate information while you're on the air.
It's a tough job.
And they got closed between two and three hundred yards.
It turns out it was about 130 yards.
Most of you in this audience know that.
Okay, it just got announced.
President Trump has officially endorsed and chosen J.D. Vance of Ohio.
I have a full background information.
We'll go at him.
We'll go over in the course of the program.
The left has already been telegraphing all of all of their arguments, all of the attacks that they will be making.
It's going to be interesting if they follow Joe Biden's admonition last night to lower the temperature, which we'll go into some specificity in detail today, which in and of itself has been a joke.
So it is pretty unbelievable to me that people just want to wash their hands Oh, we need to lower the temperature.
It's a little too late because if you go back just last week alone and listen to the rhetoric of Joe and Joe Biden, and I have you know cuts of Joe from Friday, and I want to play him from Friday.
Uh it's a little ironic that the day after that, you know, this is the incident, and then here we are over the weekend.
Uh when at one point in one of the speeches Biden gave, and one of the statements that he made, well, it's just not appropriate.
Not appropriate, not appropriate to try an assassination attempt on a former president and a leading presidential candidate.
Uh it's a little beyond not appropriate, Joe.
And but that is what he said.
So with all the lectures, and frankly, save me the lectures from Democrats and the left in this country because I am sick and tired.
You know, we've been lied to forever by them.
We have chronicled in detail on this program what they have done to destroy this man and then to come within a millimeter of assassinating this man.
No, the Democrats, they themselves didn't do it.
Uh, with the other people involved, I have no knowledge of that now.
It's been a little slow to get some real background on this guy, which makes me awfully suspicious.
I am very disappointed in people that I have come to know, many of whom I've come to know and like, and that is the Secret Service.
I have met so many of these guys now.
I will praise the Secret Service agents that were around President Trump when this incident occurred.
They moved quickly, they threw their body on top of him, and they were willing to take the bullet for him.
That is what they're trained to do, and they did it, and they did it professionally, and they did it quickly, and they did it to the best of their ability.
And then they got him off the stage.
The backstory is they they had a different exit plan, and Donald Trump said, hell no, give me my shoes.
I'm walking out.
I'm getting walking off the stage.
And I know because I've talked to the former president about what happened.
So, anyway, long longer story short is he walked out, and then we now have an iconic photo.
And that is Donald Trump with his fist in the air, pumping it hard, like he he just scored the winning goal in gain seven of an overtime game in the Stanley Cup playoffs.
Well, kind of like when my Florida Panthers uh ended up beating the Edmonton Oilers 2-1 in the seventh game of the finals.
You know, you do a kind of fist pump like that, which is now become a very iconic image.
And when you just compare that moment of will and strength and fortitude and just frankly, toughness to this weak, frail cognitive mess of a president, Joe Biden.
What a distinction.
But this is what Joe Biden was saying Friday.
Most importantly, and I mean this from the bottom of my heart.
Trump is a threat to this nation.
He led a violent mob on January 6th overturn of 2020 election.
Hold on to power.
The live election I won by 7 million votes.
Yeah!
you So here we are.
That's him on Friday.
Jill Biden on Fr uh during the week last week referred to Donald J. Trump as being evil.
Now, in the middle of his lecture speech that he's given the nation last night, and we'll get to J.D. Vance, who has just been announced as President Trump's choice for vice president.
When you when you get to this lecture that he's giving the nation last night on the issue of civility in America and lowering the temperature, I'm like, you gotta be kidding.
Because all we've heard, Democrats have been perfectly fine, no problem at all.
Oh, and did I mention that the legitimacy of the appointment of Jack Smith, the special prosecutor, now has been thrown out in the case in Florida?
The entire documents case is gone.
Well, let's see what Joe's weaponized DOJ does in this era of lowering the temperature, considering that the left in this country has done everything to raise it.
Just incredible times that we are living in, and there's so much to talk about.
And so as I look and I listen to all of this, I'm thinking, you know, in that speech, Joe Biden mentions January 6th.
But what was really glaringly absent was any reference to what happened in the summer of 2020.
In the summer of 2020, what did we see?
We saw 574 riots, a couple of dozen dead Americans.
We saw thousands of injured cops.
We we have the images etched in our minds being pelted with bricks and rocks and bottles and Molotov cocktails, billions and billions in property damage.
You have a vice president that Joe Biden, Mr. Lower the Temperature, chose that five days after the police precinct in Minneapolis was burned to the ground, put out a tweet for a bail fund, a bail fund whose annual revenue was a quarter of a million dollars in 2019, but after she promoted this bail fund, ended up being 42 million dollars, and she said it was for those protesting on the ground in Minnesota.
You mean the people that burned the police precinct to the ground and those mostly peaceful uh protests that were going on?
And then she goes on on Colt's show and says that they're not gonna stop.
We're not gonna stop.
This is a movement, I'm telling you.
They're not gonna stop.
And and everyone beware, because they're not gonna stop.
It is gonna, they're not gonna stop before election day in November, and they're not gonna stop after election day.
And that should be everyone should take note of that on both levels.
That this isn't they're not gonna let up, and they should not.
Okay, there you go.
Now, the next thing is when they use this money, what did they use the money for?
The bail fund that she promoted, you know, ended up bailing out a guy who had been arrested on domestic assault charges.
And guess what he did three weeks later, thanks to the bail fund?
He got into a road rage incident and shot and killed a 38-year-old man.
He pleaded guilty to second degree murder in the case.
Then in 2022, that Kamala Harris, of course, lower the temperature uh bail fund, uh, bailed out another guy who was facing indecent exposure charges.
A short while later, he shot and killed another man at a light rail station in St. Paul.
A jury convicted him of first degree murder over that incident.
Overall, even fake news CNN had an investigation.
65 people, you can thank Kamala Harris in this environment of lowering the temperature, were bailed out by the Freedom Fund while facing felony charges involving violence, physical threats, or sex crimes.
And guess what?
Every single solitary one of them was convicted on those charges.
Oh, let's lower the temperature, everybody, shall we?
What about Chuck Schumer on the steps of the Supreme Court?
Maybe you should call him and lecture him about lowering the temperature.
Because you do remember they went after Justice Kavanaugh, and they were doxing the Supreme the homes of Supreme Court justices.
Here's here's Chucky.
I want to tell you, Gore Zutch.
I want to tell you, Kavanaugh, you have released the whirlwind, and you will pay the price.
You won't know what hit you if you go forward with these awful decisions.
You will pay the price.
Beware.
Be aware.
Oh, okay.
Sounds like they're all where's Liz Cheney when you need it.
Sounds like they're all insurrectionists to me.
And uh, when is Biden going to apologize to telling his supporters for telling his supporters to put Donald Trump in the bullseye?
Because we know Biden, I'm sure he's not uh it's so obvious he's not serious about what he's saying, because he would have apologized last night for telling supporters, quote, put Donald Trump in the bullseye five days before Donald Trump was shot.
This was from the BBC group of Republican lawmakers pointing to a comment Biden made on a private call with donors last week.
According to Politico, Biden said on the call, I have one job, and that is to beat Donald Trump.
I'm absolutely certain I'm the best person to be able to do that.
So we're done talking about the debate.
It's time to put Trump in a bullseye.
Well, in the aftermath of the assassination attempt, Trump in a bullseye, less than a week before Trump was in a bullseye.
You know, it's led many Republicans to say, uh, really, we're going to get lectured by them.
And I'm gonna be clear.
I'm gonna go back to where I started.
I don't do what they did.
When a Bernie Sanders supporter shot up Steve Scalise and other Republicans in a ball field, I don't play that game of blaming, you know, Bernie Sanders for what some lunatic does.
But this rhetoric has gotten out of control and the lectures, please save me the lectures and save me your lectures about insurrection, and save me your lectures about civility, because you're responsible for the lies about January 6th and the fact that you didn't tell the country the whole truth.
You know, they that so much of that was was hidden from the American people.
Donald Trump willing to call up 10,000 troops, not wanting to hear from the Capitol Police Chief's son.
Uh so many other details and missing documents now.
Nobody in the Democratic Party or the media state-run mob, none of them seemed to care at all that Donald Trump's home was not valued really in real life at 18 million.
They didn't care at all about misdemeanor charges whose statute of limitations had run out.
They didn't care at all that it was upgraded to a 34-count felony.
But that should end up the way the case down in Florida ended today.
Anyway, we'll get to all that.
Uh President Trump just announcing right here in the beginning of the program, J.D. Vance is his vice presidential selection.
Watch the quail hunt begin.
Watch the, you know, destroy J.D. Vance attack dogs begin their attack in light of Joe Biden's admonition to lower the temperature.
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So much to talk about today.
We have the announcement of President Donald J. Trump.
It is J.D. Vance, Senator from the Great State of Ohio, who has been chosen as the vice presidential candidate as it relates to President Trump.
That just got announced.
We'll get to that in a second.
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Back to JD Vance.
After lengthy deliberation and thought and consideration at the considering the tremendous talents of many others, I have decided that the person best suited to assume the position of vice president of the United States is Senator J.D. Vance of the great state of Ohio.
JD honorably served our country in the Marine Corps.
Graduated from Ohio State University in two years.
Summa cum loud.
Is it loud?
Loudy.
Summa cum laud.
But what did you graduate?
Uh Magna Cum Laud.
Oh, excuse me.
Oh.
With high assistance.
All right, I can give JD a few pointers if he needs.
And he's also a Yale School graduate, where he was the editor of the Yale Law Journal.
Uh, he's also the president, was the president of the Yale Law Veterans Association.
Uh he wrote the book, Pillbilly Elogy, became a massive best seller and a movie as a champion, the hardworking men and women of our country.
JD has had a very successful business career in technology and finance.
And now during the campaign will be strongly focused on the people that he fought so brilliantly for the American workers and farmers in Pennsylvania, Michigan, Wisconsin, Ohio, Minnesota, and far beyond.
Many people, uh, myself included, really see this for what it is, and that is this is going to be a Rust Belt election.
Pennsylvania, Ohio, uh, although I'm not worried about Ohio, Pennsylvania always got to worry about Linda's home state.
Uh, then of course, Wisconsin and Michigan, and now shockingly To everybody else, Minnesota seems to be one of those states that nobody expected to be in play that is in play.
It looks like New Jersey is in play.
It looks like Virginia is in play.
It looks like all of these, you know, states that otherwise may not have been a player in play.
After the the assassination attempt this weekend, one thing that it has done is it is quieted all of the talk about Joe Biden's cognitive decline and removing Joe Biden from the ticket, whether that's a temporary reprieve or not, I don't know.
There was an article out today how Nancy Pelosi thinks that Biden will lose.
She's saying it privately to people, and apparently he's also working the phones to replace him.
We have reports on that, and we'll get to that as well.
Now I'm going to tell you about my experience with JD, and he's going to be on Hannity tonight, nine Eastern on Fox.
I've been promised the first interview.
And anyway, so looking forward to it.
Um I didn't know a lot about JD Vance.
You know, I was the race that he ran, we had him on before the race.
We've had him on a number of times.
And I had him on after the after the debate in Atlanta, and he was there, and I had time to speak with him both on air and off the air.
And I've had a couple of private conversations with him because his name has been out there as a potential VP pick.
And I just didn't know as much about him.
And he is what a two-year senator.
And so, unlike many Americans, I'd never read Hillbilly Ellergy.
My ability to find the time to read books at my leisure just does not exist in the real world for me.
Uh on a daily basis, I probably read the equivalent of a book at least a day.
I mean, if you saw the pile that I get every single day handed to me by Sweet Baby James, by the way, we are in well, in Linda's words, Milwaukee, Wisconsin.
We're not in Milwaukee.
We are in Milwaukee, Wisconsin.
A big difference.
How do you say it?
Milwaukee, Wisconsin.
No, that's not how you think that is exactly what I think.
I'm not so full of homage.
Hummage.
Homage.
Don't look at your cheerleading squad and look for support.
I'm looking at my cheerleading squad for support, and Sensei is here to kick your ass if you get out of line.
I'm just saying, he's got all his friends.
He's got all his friends in the studio today.
He's got extra support.
I got a lot of extra support.
And uh somebody who we never see now that she has two young children, uh, Kristen is actually back with us.
So it's great to have her.
And of course, I have to say I'm very excited to see Christmas.
Yeah, you're excited to see everybody but me.
I walk in, and all I can hear is you whining, bitching, moaning.
So you want me to get my violin out now, or should we save that for tomorrow?
Boss, it took me two and a half hours to get away.
You know, there's a bunch of whiny Snowflake liberals on the bridge.
We could put you up there.
You fit in just fine.
I know we do have the lunatics here.
Back to JD Vance for just a second.
So I didn't really know him.
I hadn't read the book, and he became a prominent name.
He was being mentioned often.
And so I started to do what I'm supposed to do, which is my job, and know everything about every candidate.
I knew Marco Rubio well.
I didn't know Doug Bergum as well, uh, although I know more about Doug Bergum than I thought I'd ever know in my life.
No offense to Doug Bergham.
Um, I thought one of the things that might be an obstacle for him was the issue of abortion, because North Dakota post-Roe v.
Wade adopted one of the more strict abortion laws in the country.
Um, so when I saw J. D. in Atlanta, I had in the weeks before, weeks prior, just trying to understand him better.
I watched the movie, and the movie is Hillbilly Elejay.
And what uh what I discovered was something that absolutely positively amazed me, and that was this man's life background and story just blew me away.
He grew up in incredible poverty, incredible poverty, in a home that was beyond dysfunctional.
He grew up, his father was in jail, his mother was a raging alcoholic, and which is a lot of what Hillbilly Elogy is about.
It's a memoir, memoir of of a family and culture in crisis, and it talks about his experiences.
One of the first questions I asked him, I said, is that movie accurate?
He goes, Yeah, about at least 95 plus percent is pretty accurate.
They didn't take a lot of a lot of editorial license in it at all.
And maybe this is why it became such the such the big um the big bestseller that it was.
Uh he's born in a small rust belt city, southwestern Ohio.
His parents come from Scots Irish uh ancestry, which right away, of course, puts him right at the top of the list.
Uh but he has an elder half-sister uh to whom his mom gave birth a few weeks after graduating from high school.
This is the environment that he grew up in.
When James was uh a young child, as they called him, his parents divorced.
His mother later changed his name to David, and he eventually took his mother's maiden name Vance as his surname.
His mother struggled for years with drug and alcohol use disorders.
To see it in the movie, it is extraordinarily heartbreaking.
He was raised mostly by his maternal grandparents who had relocated to Middletown and an Appalachian region of eastern Kentucky.
His family was one of numerous families in Middletown and with Appalachian roots.
And he graduates high school.
He enlists in the Marine Corps.
During his service, he was deployed to Iraq.
He served during the Iraq war.
He goes to Ohio State afterwards.
He gets a bachelor's degree in political science and philosophy.
Then he gets into Yale Law School, got a law degree, worked for a multinational law firm and for an investment firm in California and elsewhere.
And it's it's it's just an inspiring story.
And he tells how two generations my grandparents were dirt poor.
And he said, and in love.
And they got married, and they moved north in the hope of escaping the dreadful poverty around them.
And my grandmother, he points out, had eight miscarriages in the decade, he calls it between Uncle Jimmy's birth and my mother's.
And the baby who brought my grandparents to Ohio didn't survive her first week on that birth certificate.
The baby's brokenhearted mother lied about her age.
Only 14 at the time, and with a 17-year-old husband, she couldn't tell the truth.
This is a life he grew up in.
This is what this is.
He talks about his values, intense sense of loyalty and fierce dedication to family and to country.
But the stories about his families, you know, he say he's proud of it.
And I remember like years ago, um, and I've told my story when I went to college, I was a dean's list student.
I I paid my own way.
I paid every penny for college.
My parents grew up poor.
They didn't have the money.
They they they worked two jobs, my mom, the prison guard, my dad a family court probation officer and a waiter on weekends to send all of their children to Catholic schools.
And I was not going to take the little money that they might have that I didn't think they had at all, especially because I worked since I was eight as a paper boy, washed dishes at 12.
I've told my story a million times.
You're probably sick of hearing it.
I don't blame you if you are.
But it did instill in me two values that stay with me to this day.
A work ethic second to none.
I know I'm not the most talented guy on radio and TV, but I am the hardest working, and I don't stop.
And the people around me can attest to that.
I am a lunatic.
Linda, what hours of the day or night and what days of the week do you get texts from me, stories, ideas from me, you know, how often is it?
You can talk.
I you know, I didn't want to interrupt you.
We're working, and why, you know, why break up your flow?
But all kidding aside, yeah, you work all the time.
That's what I do.
Yeah.
And I'm dedicated to it, and I feel I have had an undeserved life, especially when I compare it to my parents.
So I I look at this, you know, he talks about his mom being a promising student, JD Vance does, but when she got pregnant at 18, she Decided college had to wait.
And I remember years ago I used to, you know, uh Rush Limbaugh, Sean Hannity, college dropouts used to bother me a little bit.
I wouldn't have admitted it at the time, but it now not only does it not bother me, I'm proud of it because it defines me.
That work ethic defined me.
That independence defines me.
My parents not being around every day to guide me because they were working to survive and make a better life for their children.
That defines me too.
And so I'm proud of that.
And I was a bit of a street fighter and a little bit incorrigible.
Sensei was way worse than I was by a long shot.
Uh, if we can only tell his stories on the air, that that in its in and of itself is a hillbilly elegy book.
Um, and this is the this is what made JD Vance.
Now, he's gonna be attacked.
You know, he didn't support Donald Trump in the early days.
He made horrible comments about Donald Trump.
Donald Trump knows all about them and made the decision anyway.
Uh he had his own personal views on abortion.
I'm sure that will come up as a big issue.
They tried to make it the biggest issue in his Senate race in Ohio, and it didn't stick.
And there was an exchange with him, and I think it was Tim Ryan at the time he was running against.
And when they tried to attack him, even Politifact, which pretty much hates any and all conservatives, even they had to admit that no, what Tim Ryan was saying was not particularly accurate.
And anyway, so that is what defined him.
How do you grow up in that level of poverty and that level of dysfunction and then make it not into the Marine Corps was his rescue?
And then a survival mission in Iraq.
If you were in Iraq, that was about survival.
And then make it to Yale Law School.
Now, at the time, I probably looked at Ivy League schools a lot differently than I do now, like so many other parents.
I know parents that thought that their dream was to send their kids to an Ivy League school.
They're all looking south now.
They're looking at UVA, they're looking at UNC, they're looking at at Vanderbilt and Wake Forest and all these other great institutions that are available because the values are different, although probably all these schools to some extent are woke.
The media is gonna do what they always do.
Regardless, whoever was chosen today, that was going to happen, and that will happen.
JD Vance's challenge, and we will have him on Hannity tonight.
Um, JD Vance's challenge, and I obviously this is a man of great intelligence and street smarts and life experience.
And I think probably that combination is what appealed to Donald Trump.
If I had to guess, I was asked by many, many people, because I have a lot of sources in inside and outside of Trump world.
What would who do you think?
Who do you choose?
I said, I'm not going to tell you.
I refuse to give an answer.
And some of you have been calling and asking who's my top choice.
And the reason is I didn't do the vetting of any of these candidates.
Vetting matters when you're picking a vice president because they're going to dig up who did you date in the fifth grade and did you kiss her?
And did she feel that kiss was too aggressive?
I mean, that's the environment in which we live in.
And you know, did you smoke marijuana on any occasion at any point in your life?
I mean, here we go.
It's all gonna start.
But if J D can transcend that and tell this story that led him out of Appalachia into the Marine Corps to Yale Law School to the United States Senate, now to the to being chosen as the vice presidential candidate of Donald J. Trump,
the mob that lies to us so often about immigration and the economy and about cheap fakes and lies to us about Joe's cognitive state, they won't be effective.
All the smears, the slanders.
Forget about Joe Biden lecturing about lowering the temperature.
The temperature is about to go high.
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