All Episodes
Previous Next
July 3, 2024 - Sean Hannity Show
36:04
How Can Biden Resign? - July 3rd, Hour 2
| Copy link to current segment

Time Text
This is an iHeart Podcast.
You want smart political talk without the meltdowns?
We got you.
I'm Carol Markovich.
And I'm Mary Catherine Hamm.
We've been around the block in media and we're doing things differently.
Normally it's about real conversations.
Thoughtful, try to be funny, grounded, and no panic.
We'll keep you informed and entertained without ruining your day.
Join us every Tuesday and Thursday normally on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast.
I'm Ben Ferguson and I'm Ted Cruz.
Three times a week we do our podcast, Verdict with Ted Cruz.
Nationwide, we have millions of listeners every Monday, Wednesday, and Friday.
We break down the news and bring you behind the scenes inside the White House, inside the Senate, inside the United States Supreme Court.
And we cover the stories that you're not getting anywhere else.
We arm you with the facts to be able to know and advocate for the truth with your friends and family.
So Dell a verdict with Ted Cruz now, wherever you get your podcasts.
Hello, America.
It's Peter Schweitzer and Eric Eggers.
We are filling in for Sean.
We run the Government Accountability Institute.
You can find out more about it at GAI dot news.
Uh we want you to join the conversation at 1-800-941-7326.
That's 1-800-941 Sean.
We are watching the unfolding chaos in the White House.
Who will be the Democratic nominee for president in 2024?
Eric and I have been talking about the fallout and the media coverage, but how would it actually happen if the Democrats were to replace Joe Biden?
If Joe Biden said tomorrow I've decided to step down, what are the mechanics of it?
Fortunately, we have a couple of actual experts uh who live and breathe this stuff, John McLaughlin and Jim McLaughlin, they run McLaughlin and Associates.
Uh they have elected uh they've been strategists that have help help elect presidents, prime ministers, Senate majority leakers, speakers of the House.
Uh so we are uh very happy to be there and uh Sean John uh also I think is very pleased uh that you are here on time.
So thanks for joining us.
We're on for the record.
This is Jim.
I'm the one who's always late.
Oh, Jim's the one that's always late.
Okay, I was misinformed.
This is why we employ a fact checker at the government accountability, by the way.
And let me tell you, Eric and Peter are the two best fact checkers on the planet, as we all know.
Uh well, thank you guys.
So so let's get into this, and we'll start with you, John, first.
Um, so help us out.
If in the scenario where Joe Biden says, okay, um, you know, I I'm not up to the job anymore, he's stepping down, he remains as president, but he's stepping down.
What are the actual mechanics of what the Democrats would have to do to put in a candidate?
And is there a time when the a a a date, a period in time when it becomes really difficult to do that?
I mean, presumably he c he couldn't decide this in October very easily.
Walk us through what the steps are for them to make this change if they do make the change.
Well, first of all, he he right now he's not making the change.
I mean he he's you know, without it.
Even just before we're speaking right now, there was uh uh a conference call of the staff or a meeting of the staff and at the White House and both uh President Biden and Vice President Harris were on that call.
So uh uh so it's like Joe Biden's not letting go.
By the way, for a lot of the reasons you put together in your book, Blood Money, they're not letting go of any of this stuff because there's too much peril for the Biden family business.
And uh, you know, Hunter himself is is in the system right now where he's been convicted on one trial of gun possession or whatever, and then he's headed for one on taxes in September.
So the last thing they need is somebody else in control of the Justice Department.
But so if some reason Joe Biden said he was gonna step aside, you've got he's got three thousand eight hundred and ninety-four pledged delegates out of uh three thousand nine hundred and thirty-seven that are going to the DNC convention on August nineteenth in Chicago.
Uh he doesn't have the superdelegates because they're not pledged, but they're out there.
It's only 747 of them.
He he could open up the convention if he dropped out tomorrow before the convention.
Um and they become unbound.
And then it's up to the backroom bosses in effect at the at the Democrat convention to decide.
If he decides to wait and you know, wait till after the convention, let all the there's been talk about because of some election law problem in Ohio that they might have to have a virtual convention before Chicago and and approve of Joe Biden so they can have him on the ballot in Ohio.
So he could lose there.
But if they wait till after that, it's up to the four hundred and eighty-three members of the Democratic National Committee.
And and maybe you have to go back to like, you know, remember George McGovern had Tom Eagleton.
They had to, you know, after it came out, he had shock treatment, all of a sudden they had to replace the uh vice presidental candidate with uh Sergeant Shriver.
So whether you do it with the bosses in Chicago or you do it with the bosses after Chicago, it would be an inside thing and the primary voters in the Democrat Party don't matter.
So that's would be their process.
But right now, they're all, you know, committed to Joe Biden, and Joe Biden is not letting go.
And uh, you know, what I find ironic about the whole thing is, you know, they've all seen his age and him getting older and more fe you know, more feeble, but they covered it up.
And the the reason they're behind in the polls isn't because he's old.
It's because his policies for three and a half years have failed, whether it's inflation, open borders, endless wars, crime around the United States.
That's why he's failing.
And all the Democrats that are talking about replacing him have all aided and embedded and com you know, are committed to that, particularly Vice President Harris.
So, you know, unless the Democrats decide we reject these radical policies, they're gonna lose to President Trump, and that's why Trump's ahead in the polls.
We're talking to political strategists John McLaughlin and Jim McLaughlin.
Jim, take us inside the numbers that they're looking at in the White House, and I think elsewhere, and some of the reasons why these Democrat power brokers are calling for a change.
I think it's because of the polling numbers and radical agenda aside.
Talk to us about where Joe Biden is relative to Kamala Harris, and if it's not either them from a political viability standpoint, where else would they look?
Like is Gretchen Whitmer better, is Gavin Newsom better?
Yeah, uh, and that's a great question.
And look, I the Democrats, it's all about power with them.
You guys know this.
You guys have done all the research on this.
By hook or by crook, they want to remain in power.
And when Joe Biden was the candidate they thought was best to beat Donald Trump, they rigged the election.
They rigged it.
You know, they basically, you know, you had Dean Phillips and you had Robert F. Kennedy Jr., two legitimate candidates that were trying to run a primary against them, and what did they do?
They basically closed them out of the primary so they couldn't run.
But what's happened since then?
Because of his uh dismal debate performance, and by the way, Donald Trump is not getting enough credit for having a great debate performance just on one issue after another, just being restrained in terms of not attacking him, not being aggressive, not like making him be sympathetic by allowing just the space.
I mean, I think that's a great point.
He's been very he's been very disciplined even now waiting to announce his vice presidential candidate.
He's letting this cycle continue in perpetuity.
He's really smart.
Yep.
And and by a 46 to 28 margin, the CBS news poll said after the debate that voters said he was way more presidential.
But the reason why the Democrats are uh having their own insurrection right now against Joe Biden is because he's losing to Donald Trump and things are getting worse.
Donald Trump was beating him before the debate.
He was beating him in national polls, he was beating him in the battleground polls.
And now you've got New York Times polls just came out.
Donald Trump has increased his national lead, increased his battleground lead.
You look at that CNN poll, CNN of all people, they've clearly turned on uh Joe Biden now.
He has a sixty-four percent disapproval rating.
That is off the charts for Joe Biden.
That's at the point where Democrats across the country are gonna go down because of Joe Biden's unpopularity.
Donald Trump is beating him in that survey by ten points among independents.
And you know who Joe Biden had his worst negatives, his highest disapproval rating?
Young People, sixty-nine percent, because those issues that John was just talking about, things like inflation, the economy, crime and safety, they realized that when Donald Trump was president, he did a significantly better job than Joe Biden.
No, those are great points.
We're talking with uh John and Jim McLaughlin of the McLaughlin Associates, uh really the the top um firm in terms of political strategic consulting for candidates in the United States and overseas.
Um you both make, I think, a very compelling point, and you're actually r absolutely right, John, that Joe Biden says he's not going anywhere.
My question though is what is the tipping point?
If Joe Biden says he's not going anywhere, and enough of the big money and in Hollywood and in you know, big tech says you need to go, uh, and congressional Democrats, there's rumors that you know, 25 members of Congress are going to sign a letter saying he should step down.
Is there a tipping point?
I mean, obviously Joe Biden can stay there as long as he wants.
I mean, he can't be pushed out, but is there a tip?
They can't stay until past four PM.
But but is there a tipping point where um uh Joe Biden is gonna have to kind of pack it in because he knows it's not viable anymore to mount a campaign because the money's drying up it might be, you know, I uh I mentioned your book Blood Money before.
Maybe if some of those Hunter Biden, Frank Biden, james Biden clients decide, hey, we're not gonna pay you anymore.
Like all of a sudden you know.
And then and if somebody were to guarantee them a pardon, like Camel Harris, if she if all of a sudden she becomes president, she guarantees them a pardon, and then you know, I I saw some reports saying oh, two billion for the Biden Library and X hundreds of millions for the nomination, you know, uh who knows.
I mean, I mean, the right now there appears to be no tipping plan.
I mean, it appears to be that he's got Hakeem Jeffries and he's got uh Chuck Schumer saying, let's let's let the polls level out and let's see if he can hang on and make his case.
I mean, he's gonna do the interview with uh George Stephanopoulos tomorrow on ABC.
ABC, by the way, their poll they asked they had a poll, he's getting buried Ipsos, and it's one of the worst polls for President Trump because it's like the panel of George Stephanopoulos' friends.
Yeah.
And they never released any of the demographics, so you can't figure out race or age or anything like that.
But uh but, you know, these polls have been bad.
Donald Trump, like in our last poll before the debate, Trump was up two points nationally.
He was leading in the multi-candidate race, two points.
Uh but 68% of all Americans said the country was on the wrong track.
They said the economy was getting worse, not better, 62 to 31.
They said 84 percent said they were negatively impacted by inflation, 49 percent uh to the point that they couldn't afford basic necessities.
So tr and so Trump basically has been beating him since September of twenty-one when inflation kicked in, and uh uh he surrendered in Afghanistan, because that's the one thing an American president's not supposed to do.
You're not supposed to surrender to terrorists and leave Americans behind, let alone have Americans killed.
But Trump's been leading in the national poll since then.
Didn't bother the Democrats, didn't bother them until all of a sudden it's like, hey, it's June of twenty-four, and if we're still losing, we might lose in November.
So the media and the Democrats are saying, you know, we've got to make a change.
They're like changing the captain of the Titanic after it hit the iceberg.
They've driven the country into this iceberg, and the country is ready to revolt.
I mean, this is this is like Reagan in eighty after he debated Carter, and all of a sudden people are like, up, we're gonna vote for Reagan and Reagan won in a landslide.
But it took that long.
Here they had the debate early.
They had it in June, and Trump was, as you noticed, he was he was presidential, he was factual, his positions were better.
It made sense.
When he said, why are we letting illegals in to bankrupt Social Security and Medicare, did they go, I mean, it just made sense to the average person.
So it's kind of late for the Democrats, but we'll see.
Jim, we've got 30 seconds before we have to take a break, and we appreciate the time.
John and Jim McLaughlin, the political consultants, experts, and understand the data and understand the numbers that the political campaigns are looking at right now.
Is immigration still the most relevant issue, or has Joe Biden's cognitive ability leapfrogged that is that the number one issue that voters are decided on, or is it something else?
Is this a temporary distraction, or is this actually the thing that will carry the election in November?
Look, you you look at all the issues that matter to the voters right now, the immigration problem, inflation.
We have Donald Trump had peace breaking out throughout the world.
Now we have wars throughout the world.
Any one of those single issues could collapse a presidency, and Joe Biden has all of them.
And Joe Biden's biggest promise, like John said, he could be a hundred years old.
As long as the country was doing well, um, and people thought the country was on the right track, he'd be okay.
But what's happened now is basically since the summer of twenty-one, when you after the Afghanistan debacle and inflation was up at nine percent, his numbers have been upside down.
And when you ask the typical American, they'll tell you things are getting worse because of Joe P uh Biden's policies, they're not getting better.
They are not getting better, and uh, I think that's one of the reasons more than anything else why Democrats within the party are are seeking to replace the top of the ticket.
Jim, John McLaughlin, you guys are great.
Thank you for joining us.
Uh we'll come back and talk about what it means and take a look at more data that suggests that uh hey, maybe Joe Biden's got a chance of sticking around.
He's Peter Schweitzer, I'm Eric Eggers.
We're in for Sean Handy, back after this.
Hey there, I'm Mary Catherine Hamm.
And I'm Carol Markowitz.
We've been in political media for a long time.
Long enough to know that it's gotten, well, a little insane.
That's why we started normally, a podcast for people who are over the hysteria and just want clarity.
We talk about the issues that actually matter to the country without panic, without yelling, and with a healthy dose of humor.
We don't take ourselves too seriously, but we do take the truth seriously.
So if you're into common sense, sanity, and some occasional sass.
You're our kind of people.
Catch new episodes of Normally every Tuesday and Thursday.
On the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you listen.
I'm Ben Ferguson, and I'm Ted Cruz.
Three times a week we do our podcast, Verdict with Ted Cruz.
Nationwide, we have millions of listeners.
Every Monday, Wednesday, and Friday, we break down the news and bring you behind the scenes inside the White House, inside the Senate, inside the United States Supreme Court.
And we cover the stories that you're not getting anywhere else.
We arm you with the facts to be able to know and advocate for the truth with your friends and family.
So Dow, verdict with Ted Cruz now, wherever you get your podcasts.
Hey there, I'm Mary Catherine Hamm.
And I'm Carol Markowitz.
We've been in political media for a long time.
Long enough to know that it's gotten, well, a little insane.
That's why we started normally, a podcast for people who are over the hysteria and just want clarity.
We talk about the issues that actually matter to the country without panic, without yelling, and with a healthy dose of humor.
We don't take ourselves too seriously, but we do take the truth seriously.
So if you're into common sense, sanity, and some occasional sass, you're our kind of people.
Catch new episodes of Normally every Tuesday and Thursday on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you listen.
I'm Ben Ferguson, and I'm Ted Cruz.
Three times a week we do our podcast, Verdict with Ted Cruz.
Nationwide, we have millions of listeners.
Every Monday, Wednesday, and Friday, we break down the news and bring you behind the scenes inside the White House, inside the Senate, inside the United States Supreme Court.
And we cover the stories that you're not getting anywhere else.
We arm you with the facts to be able to know and advocate for the truth with your friends and family.
So down a verdict with Ted Cruz now, wherever you get your podcasts.
Hi, Peter Schweitzer and Eric Eggers.
We are talking about the crisis in the White House, and they continue to insist and cling to the notion that Joe Biden is fine just from the press conference today.
The press spokesman, Korean Jean-Pierre, had this to say.
Do you believe that the president is as sharp today as he was when he took this job?
Yeah.
Slowdowns.
What I can say is this is a president who is strong and resolute in delivering for the American people.
That's what I see.
I see a president when I'm in sitting in front of him, you know, going through the day or talking about what he's doing next.
Uh he is someone that engages with us.
He wants to know, he pushes us, he pro he you know probes us, wanting to uh figure out like the bigger picture of whatever we're trying to explain to him, or even granular details.
Uh he is as sharp as as ever, as I have known him to be in my engagement and my experience with him.
Here's the absurdity of this.
If the question is of his cognitive ability, having a bunch of other people that work for him to come out and say, no, no, no, no, he's super smart and he's engaged, but you can't actually talk to him is not gonna work.
It's not gonna work.
And those are among the details that staff are leaking, which suggest that there is a growing desire to replace him with anybody else, right?
I mean, while Vice President Harris is not as popular as Joe Biden, and really nobody's got the popularity to maybe pose a significant threat other than Michelle Obama, which I think would be, you know, a total Democrat fantasy, but seems wildly unlikely.
Um the fact that you're hearing things like, hey, his debate prep went from eleven to four and included a nap.
He's sharp from 10 a.m. to four p.m.
Right.
Axios had reporting that a lot of the White House staff has had much less access to him than other presidents have, because the small team of Jill Biden and others just keep anybody else from interacting with Joe Biden.
It's like they're protecting him from something, and it might just be the reality of his actual condition being exposed, and that's unfortunately something they were not able to protect him from because he was exposed for 90 minutes to the American people last week.
And then that's why you saw people turn so quickly.
It's like the we're we're gonna lie, we're gonna lie, if we can get away with it, we can't get away with it anymore, and now we have to do something like right away.
Yeah, that's right.
And and the bottom line is this strategy, I think they're gonna keep trying it, keep saying and trying to say no, no, he's doing fine.
It's not gonna work.
And part of it is the contrast to the Joe Biden that we know even from a few years ago, the guy that was going out and getting ice cream cones.
Remember that?
He'd be out talking to people at the uh uh ice cream shop and engaging.
There's none of that anymore, and he won't even come out himself and prove where he is cognitively.
So this strategy is simply not gonna work.
I believe they are going to shift to Kamala Harris because they do not have a choice, and they're they're in a conundrum, right?
Because some people have gone on record and said, you know, if you step over Kamala Harris and try to put Gavin Newsom or somebody else in that spot, things are gonna go really south really quickly in the Democratic Party.
So if there's an indication of what the conversation is being had within the inner circles of Democrat power brokers, Democrat and mega donor Ari Emmanuel was just giving uh a forum and he was asked about hey, what do we do?
The question was Democrats are jumping out windows, what do we do?
And he said, Well, I blame the founding fathers because they gave us a start date at 35, but they didn't give us an end date.
Oh wow.
Yeah.
Oh wow.
No, no end date.
But then he said, I've talked to a bunch of big donors, they're moving all their money to Congress and the Senate.
We should all be really upset.
That's a paraphrase.
Uh he said, you know, this is a legal issue now, and and this is something that our friend Jason Chaffetz has made because there are state laws at play.
He said you can't remove him in three swing states, Pennsylvania, Wisconsin, and Michigan, and only Michigan has a democratic legislature, which means I guess you'd have to have Republicans vote to remove him in these other states, which of course they're not going to do.
Right.
But so that's but then it raises this other issue.
So that some people say it's not viable to replace him at the top of the ticket because there are state laws that would govern such a thing.
But then you have to think about well, wait a minute.
What did the last four years teach us?
What did we get away with as a country?
No, in 2020.
We just fundamentally changed the way we conduct elections, right?
Right.
And because of COVID or legendary.
Sure, but guess what?
There's but those they had laws on the books there with the state legislatures are supposed to ratify, we're gonna accept this private money, we're gonna do all kinds of different stuff.
The state legislatures didn't do it, and we got and they did it then.
Yeah.
So I you can't really blame Democrats for thinking they can do it now.
Right, right.
And that they can figure out a way uh even as late as October to try to fix this.
I don't think it's gonna be that easy, and I don't think Joe Biden's gonna last that long in terms of politically.
Uh I think the pressure is gonna become so immense.
He can cling to power, but if everybody the money dries up and everybody on Capitol Hill says, Joe, you've got to go, I think he will eventually do it, and that will lead to camilla Harris.
If not, there are some Democrats.
I think we have a clip on this.
There's some Democrats that have said if you push Kamala aside, they're gonna burn down the House.
No, this is a Stephen A. Smith show, and he's talking to a civil rights attorney who I believe is also a delegate for the Democrat Party.
Listen to what she said.
The idea that anybody else besides Vice President Harris would be uh mentioned would have lasting ramifications for the Democrat Party.
Or we agree.
There's a long list of Democrats.
Kamala Harris, uh, Gavin Newsom, uh, Gretchen Whitmer.
The list goes on and on and on.
You've named four or five people.
Where is their consensus?
You've got to build consensus, and there is not consensus right now.
If you pick a white man over Kamala Harris, black women, I can tell you this.
We're gonna walk away, we're gonna blow the party up.
So I actually think that the best thing that the Biden administration has going for it is the fact that the vice president is Kamala Harris because her polling numbers are worse than Joe Biden's, and that's before even having a national conversation about some of her political vulnerabilities.
I mean, this is something that we at the government accountability, dude.
You're the president, you've written a bunch of books.
We have a chapter in one of your books, Profiles and Corruption, which detail Kamala Harris's very real political baggage.
Yeah, yeah.
She has huge political ballot baggage.
Of course, a lot of people know that uh she emerged on the scene in 1994 because she started dating Willie Brown, who was the speaker of the California Assembly.
Um she was 29, he was 60, he was older than her father.
Uh but Willie Brown also appointed her at age 29 to the state unemployment insurance appeals board, whatever that is, met once a month.
She got paid $99,000 a year for doing that.
Then to the California Medical Assistance Commission, she got paid 114,000 for that.
And then, of course, Willie bought bought her a brand new BMW.
Uh the relationship kind of went south, but Willie Brown became the mayor of San Francisco, and he had a big problem, and that is that a the San Francisco district attorney, a guy named Terrence Hallenden, was causing him problems.
He was investigating him.
He was investigating his friends.
And of course, Willie Brown has been under FBI investigation for decades for the kind of stuff that he did.
So Willie Brown's genius plan was I'm gonna have my former girlfriend, Kamala Harris, run against Terrence Hallanan, knock him out of the office, and she will protect me and protect my friends.
And lo and behold, that's what happened.
That was her introduction into politics.
And when she became the San Francisco district attorney, there are legions of cases where she dropped cases that were being prosecuted against Willie Brown's friends.
Probably the most outrageous, I think, was what was going on with the priest abuse scandal in San Francisco at that time.
She was the only district attorney of a major city to not prosecute a case against Catholic priests because of the sex abuse.
That's right.
And it's not because Kamala Harris is sympathetic to the Catholic Church, it's because the law firms that were representing the Catholic Church raised a ton of money and put her into office.
And her predecessor, Terrence Hallendan, had got access to like 800 pages of internal documents, these or investigations the church had done in San Francisco on priest abuse scandals.
He wanted to, of course, take the names of the victims out but release it to the public.
Victims groups wanted that.
Kamala Harris covered it up.
She said, We're not releasing uh this material, and she did not prosecute a single case.
Uh, and yet she has, of course, paraded herself for years as somebody who stands up for victims.
This is the kind of raw power that she has demonstrated over the years when she's been in a position of power and authority.
I'd also say that those are among the things that would have been maybe discussed in a broader way had she been more of a threat politically during the 2020 primary.
Yeah, she wasn't, so it wasn't.
And so I think that's one of the conversations that the country would absolutely have if she did become the president or become the presidential nominee.
But it I think the point's been made too that it does make sense packaging Joe Biden as listen, we have to find a way for you to become heroic and patriotic, right?
He's I think he is a guy that likes to lead in those ways.
He's the one that put the pressure on the Obama administration to legalize gay marriage, and he's the one that put pressure.
He said, look, I'm gonna be the first one to appoint an African-American woman to a Supreme Court.
I'm gonna have a female vice president.
This identity politics stuff matters to him, or at least he's learned how to use it in a way that looks like it matters to him.
And so I think if you if you convinced him, listen, you can leave uh and you can be the one that gives us the first female president.
I could see that being enticing to him.
It could.
Of course, the genius move would be to do that and then to Engineer a situation uh where Kamala Harris decides to not run for president.
Now I know that's kind of unimaginable.
She gets to be president, but then not run for president.
Well, she gets to be president, yes.
He steps down not only as a candidate but as president, because here's the problem.
Yes, he's gonna make this grandiose statement and say this, you know, I'm going to help bring about the first um uh a black female president in the United States.
The problem is it's Kamala Harris.
She's not likable, she has terrible poll numbers, she's not gonna win.
So how about this idea?
What do you think about this?
The Democratic Party power brokers go to Kamala Harris and say, Look, the next opening on the Supreme Court when when we have the presidency will be you.
You think Kamala Harris would take that?
Do you think she would prefer to be a justice on the Supreme Court for the next thirty years?
As opposed to running for president and probably losing because her poll numbers are so bad.
I guess let's take a look at what Jill Biden's done in her office, right?
Like Joe Biden has her hands around, I mean, not literally, but the presidency is in the Biden family.
Yeah.
And if Jill Biden is one of the people who's been the most reluctant, reluctant to uh relinquish that power, you actually think that Kamala Harris would be willing to like let go of the presidency if she was named as president.
It's it's a long shot.
But I think also terrible theory, and it's beneath you and all of your professional success.
I just I just think that there are too many smart people in the Democratic Party leadership who look at the poll numbers.
Her likability is lower than Joe Biden's.
Yeah.
Uh, and I don't think it's going to improve with exposure.
I mean, that's the problem.
It's not because she's an unknown.
Everybody knows her and the poll numbers are bad.
She's not a great candidate.
Remember when she ran for president in 2020 in her own state of California, she got three percent of the vote.
No, it's so bad.
She was so bad.
So she's not a good candidate.
So the question is, she sits down with her husband, she sits down with her aides.
I don't know.
It's it's it's a gambit that I think Democrats would tie try to take because I think one of the reasons that Joe Biden is clinging to power is his aides are looking that Kamala Harris as his replacement as a candidate is not a great option for them.
Yeah, she's not a great option.
And the other people that have been mentioned is options like Gavin Newsom have their own fair share of baggage.
We've talked about that on some of our podcasts and research.
I mean, just think about this.
Gavin Newsom's governor of the state of California.
The last four years, California has led the nation in losing U-Hauls.
They like ran out of U-Hauls, but so many people are leaving.
American citizens are leaving.
Other citizens are finding their way there.
Uh, but it it's remains this incredibly fascinating moment, unprecedented in our nation's history.
And so we'd love to be able to talk about it with you.
Give us a call at 800-941-7326-800-941 Sean.
We'll hear what you think about Peter's theory and other ones that have actual chances of occurring when we come back.
Eric Eggers, Peter Schweitzer, fill in for Sean Handy.
back after this.
Immigration, jobs, health care.
The news you care about is right here.
Anity Watch is on.
Oh.
Are you feeling the impact of recent changes in the timeshare industry?
Well, now more than ever.
The costs of timeshare ownership far outweigh any benefits.
My friends at Lone Star Transfer, well, they are the only company that I trust to get you out.
Our listeners' positive feedback demonstrates why I have been supporting Lone Star Transfer now for many years.
Now for over a decade, they have successfully helped over 20,000 timeshare owners.
And Lone Star Transfer, well, their exclusive options help timeshare owners like you get out faster and easier than any other option in the country.
They're the only company that will give you a written guarantee and release you from your timeshare in a specific time frame.
Now for a free consultation and a guaranteed solution, call our friends at Lone Star Transfer.
It's 833-594-0075.
Again, 833-594-0075 on the web.
It's Lone Starrtransfer.com.
It's Peter Schweitzer.
I'm here with Eric Eggers.
We're filling in for Sean.
You can join the conversation 1-800-941-7326.
That's 1-800-941.
Sean Reuters now reporting that the Democrats are starting to uh get around Kamala Harris as the possible heir to Joe Biden.
Uh Reuters reporting that they are comfortable with her because she has already been vetted for national office And has survived intense scrutiny.
I must have missed that.
But let's go to Eric in North Carolina.
Eric, thanks for joining the conversation.
Thank you.
Hello, gentlemen.
Peter, first of all, thank you for all the massive work you've done for America to help dig out the corruption of the Democrats.
My goodness.
Depending on when Joe Biden were or King uh Queen Gill were to drop out.
Um, they have a problem.
I haven't heard mentioned who would be vice president.
Obviously, Kamala's a problem, but if Joe drops out before the end of his term, or if heaven forbid he were to get elected and try to go four years again and not make it.
The speaker of the house, if I'm not mistaken, is the one that would step in, right?
Mike Smith.
Well, it it actually the way that it works, you can look at what happened with uh Richard Nixon and uh the resignation there.
They actually get to select the president gets to select their vice president, and it would probably be Hakeem Jeffries, who's the leader of the Democrats in the House.
That would probably be the choice.
Oh, no, okay.
I thought uh there was a point where the speaker fills in as vice president when the president becomes incapacitated.
Yeah, that that is if there is a a crisis, the president and the vice president are killed.
The third in leadership in government would actually be the speaker of the house.
But in this case, they would get to pick who would be vice president and the running mate.
Do you think anything that's happening now with the conversation with Kamala Harris and Joe Biden, it does it in any way impact who you think Donald Trump should select as his vice president?
I think that's a great question.
Um, and I think that you know Donald Trump uh is is having a wide open process, and I think it probably will.
I mean, there will probably be a political calculation.
If he's facing Kamala Harris, I would imagine he's gonna end up favoring certain candidates in terms of the ethnic vote.
Um I think that's probably uh a good call to think.
And that may be one of the reasons why he's waiting until uh ultimately kind of see how this shakes up before they pick it.
It's an amazingly fascinating.
It's historically unprecedented, and it's a moment we get to share with you.
Thank you for joining us.
He's Peter Schweitzer.
I'm Eric Eggers.
We host a program called the Drill Down.
It's a podcast you can find on any platform, and we're filling it for Sean Handy.
We'll be right back to talk about more hypocrisy in the media about what's happening in the Biden White House next.
You carry a gun to protect yourself and your loved ones, right?
Well, in today's America, you need to be insured, trained, and educated as a USCCA member, so that means you can defend yourself, your family, not only against criminals, but also a legal system that's against you.
Just listen to this very true story.
A man on drugs cut the electricity to a home in California.
A neighbor confronted the invader, ended up shooting him, not killing him.
Police arrived, but the shooter was a USCCA member.
Well, they got him an attorney who kept him from being charged or even going to a police station, all covered in his USCCA membership.
Now I've been with the US CCA for nine years because they have the best training, education, and access to insurance that's made specifically for self-defense incidents, all for less than a dollar a day.
Just go to their website, DefendFamily.com and learn more about USCCA membership.com.
You want smart political talk without the meltdowns?
We got you.
Now I'm Carol Markovich.
And I'm Mary Catherine Hamm.
We've been around the block in media and we're doing things differently.
Normally is about real conversations.
Thoughtful, try to be funny, grounded, and no panic.
We'll keep you informed and entertained without ruining your day.
Join us every Tuesday and Thursday, normally on the iHeartRadio app Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast.
I'm Ben Ferguson, and I'm Ted Cruz.
Three times a week, we do our podcast, Verdict with Ted Cruz.
Nationwide, we have millions of listeners every Monday, Wednesday, and Friday.
We break down the news and bring you behind the scenes inside the White House, inside the Senate, inside the United States Supreme Court.
And we cover the stories that you're not getting anywhere else.
We arm you with the facts to be able to know and advocate for the truth with your friends and family.
So Dell a verdict with Ted Cruz now, wherever you get your podcasts.
▲
Export Selection