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All right, news roundup information overload hour.
On this eve of this first presidential debate, uh, and we have a lot of news.
Let's take you back four years ago.
What happened in the weeks leading up to the 2020 election?
Uh well, we had an October, the New York Post had a blockbuster story.
It was about Hunter Biden's laptop, a laptop that we now know implicates Joe Biden as quote, the big guy, as confirmed by Tony Bobolinsky, a laptop that we now know from Hunter Biden's business partner, Devin Archer, that Joe Biden lied to the country when he said he never talked to his his son, his brother, or anybody for that matter about their foreign business dealings.
When in fact, uh Devin Archer said he used to call into meetings with his foreign business uh associates and even met with some of them, including uh the former First Lady of Moscow and Russian oligarch Elena Batarina,
who, according to Devin Archer, three and a half million dollars in funds were sent uh from her to the Biden quote enterprise, if you will, or the Biden syndicate, if you will, on top of what he claimed over a hundred million dollars for real estate investment.
And then, of course, we had the FBI, they had verified the authenticity of the laptop.
They did that in March of 2020, but yet they went out all summer before the election, meeting with big tech companies and pre-bunking the laptop story by warning these big tech companies that they would be victims of a foreign disinformation campaign, and it's likely going to be about Joe Biden and Hunter Biden.
Now, they also knew that Rudy Giuliani's attorney had a copy of the laptop, the very real laptop from hell.
Uh and then when that story broke, and Facebook and Twitter actually went to the FBI and asked, is this what you were warning us about?
Is this disinformation?
Or is this accurate?
They could have confirmed that it was accurate because they had verified it.
They chose to protect Joe Biden.
And then the story gets worse.
Then we had, you know, an effort led by Winken, Tony, Blinken, uh, to gather 51, what we thought were former intelligence officers, none of whom ever examined the laptop out there debunking the laptop as Russian disinformation.
And this was all in the lead up to the final debate in October of 2020.
And Joe Biden, you know, was calling it Russian disinformation and the 51 Intel officers that were organized by his people.
Anyway, let's listen to Joe in the lead up to that election because he's lying to the American public.
There are 50 former national intelligence folks who said that what this he's accusing me of is a Russian plan.
They have said that this is has all the care.
Four, five former heads of the CIA, both parties say what he's saying is a bunch of garbage.
Nobody believes it except them.
His and his good friend Rudy Gianni.
You mean the laptop is now another Russia Russia Russia hoax?
Building the stories from all about his yes.
God love you, man.
You're a one horse pony.
I'll tell you.
Well, it all turns out not to be true.
Now we have the committee, the House Judiciary Committee, the Select Subcommittee on the Weaponization of the Federal Government, and the Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence.
They have now come out with a very, very extensive report.
And in this report, they go into great specificity and they go into great detail about how the intelligence community, 51, it's called, how CIA contractors, in other words, not former Intel officials, but current Intel workers for our government colluded with the Biden campaign to mislead American voters.
Anyway, joining us now, we have Congressman Mike Turner.
He is the chairman of the House Intel Committee.
Uh Congressman, great to have you back.
Uh I've read this report.
It is beyond frightening to me that you have so many former and then we now know current at the time, high-ranking intelligence officials that knew nothing.
They didn't none of them examine the laptop.
None of them knew a thing about the laptop.
The only thing they knew is they wanted Joe Biden to win.
And they went out and they organized and they lied to the American people to affect the outcome of an election.
Is that election interference, sir?
Absolutely.
Boy, Sean, you were absolutely right.
And what you just played is very important for everyone to hear, and that is Biden lying to the American public.
That's what he sounds like when he's lying.
If you look at the video, that's what he looks like when he's lying.
Uh, you are, you know, our committee uh works to obtain CIA um emails and communications from um representatives of the IC 51 that put out uh this claim that it was Russian disinformation, as you correctly said, it their claim was completely made up.
They had zero intelligence.
They acknowledged under oath we deposed them with Chairman uh Jordan and myself, the uh Judiciary Committee, Intel Committee were deposed uh several of these individuals.
They acknowledged that that they under oath that they did not do any efforts to verify their statements, and they specifically said in their documents that we've obtained that they were doing this because they expected Trump to attack Biden on the issue at the upcoming debate, and they wanted to give the vice president uh a talking point on this response, which was totally a lie and totally political.
Uh, this should have never happened.
Well, you go on in your executive summary, and you say the fifty-one former intelligence officials, Hunter Biden's statement was a political, blatant operation from the start.
It originated with a call from a top Biden campaign official, now Secretary of State, Anthony, we call him Wink and Tony Blinken, to former deputy uh Central Intelligence Agency Director Mike Morrell.
The committee's investigation revealed that without outreach from Blinken, Morel would not have written that statement.
And Morrill told the committees that the Blinken phone call triggered his intent to write the statement.
And the statements drafters were open about the goal of the project.
We think that Trump will attack Biden on the at on this issue at this week's debate.
We want to give the vice president a talking point to use in response.
Now, let me ask you something.
Is that an in-kind contribution?
Is there any violation of law here?
Well, there certainly ought to be, and certainly Jim Jordan and myself are working together on legislation that would make this uh illegal in the future.
But what you just said is incredibly important, and that is this was presented by Biden not only as truth, as these as if these intelligence former intelligence uh members and some who, as you indicated, were under contract with the CIA, um, had done an independent assessment of this of the laptop of the issue of Russian disinformation.
They had perhaps access uh to uh intelligence, they had zero intelligence, but they didn't just spontaneously do this.
This was initiated by Biden's campaign.
Blinken was working for the campaign, corraled to these individuals, uh, had them draft this letter for which they've done no verification, all of which were lies, and put it out as if it was some official statement, uh, when in fact it it was, as you indicated, election interference lies, lies that then Biden himself took to the podium in his debate and lied to the American public.
I mean, it really is an incredible thing, and that we had high-ranking CIA, high ranking CIA officials.
Well, what was the role of the CIA director at the time?
Weren't were they made aware?
We also invite to into the program Congressman Jim Jordan of Ohio, uh chairman of the House Judiciary Committee.
You know, these fifty one former Intel officials, Jim Jordan, you know, and what is a blatant political operation.
I was just asking Congressman Turner if this is an in-kind contribution, if this is illegal in any way.
Do you see any potential laws broken here?
Well, it I I mean, I don't know.
We're we're we're looking at all that.
Um, but what we do know is the agents themselves, the internal emails we got, Sean, they knew they shouldn't be doing this.
They said this is not a good look for the CIA.
This is political, this is pro-Biden, this should not be happening.
So the good people doing the real work that the CIA is supposed to do understood what was involved in this this operation.
Uh certainly Michael Morrell knew he was he was auditioning for the the CIA director position and and uh what he hoped was the future Biden administration.
So um that's what we that's that's what we know from the very documents we got uh by subpoena this uh the CIA.
What does it mean, Jim Jordan, when some of the statements and the people that signed this this document, including Mike Verrell, uh were on active contract with the CAA at the time that this of Hernar Biden's statements publication.
Well, I mean, our good go back to what you you've said this better than anyone, Sean.
Our government had the laptop and the FBI the very day the New York Post story comes out.
This is something we didn't we didn't get into uh quite in our report, but the very day that the the post story comes out, October 14, 2020, that very day the FBI is actually meeting with social media companies, and they get asked by Twitter, is what what's what about this New York Post story?
And someone in the FBI says the laptop is real.
That was quickly, they were quickly stopped when the lawyer for the FBI jumped in, no further comment.
But the FBI then later met with all the social media companies that same day, October 14th, and they tell them all we have no indication whatsoever that the laptop was hacked by Russia.
So they knew at the time it wasn't, and yet you have people signing a statement that says it was, and some of those people are actually being paid on some kind of contract with the CIA at the moment they signed that statement.
That's how egregious this whole this whole process was.
And and my question is again, what what are they gonna try this time?
What's what's coming this fall in the run up to the most important election we have, the election for commander in chief in president of the United States.
I don't know.
But uh the I I I honestly don't I think they'd stop at nothing.
And what we what we all know, Congressman Turner, is that the FBI throughout the summer of 2020 was out there pre-bunking, uh meeting with big tech on a weekly basis, as Congressman Jordan and I both have pointed out uh in the lead up to this election, warning them that they're gonna be potentially victims of of disinformation, and both Facebook and Twitter, it's my understanding, both asked if this was did the disinformation they were warning about.
They could have confirmed the truth that they had verified the authenticity of the laptop.
They didn't do it, and they knew that Rudy Giuliani's attorney had a copy, so they knew this laptop story was going to leak eventually, and it did.
Well, and we got to give credit to uh then uh ODNI director, director of national intelligence, uh Radcliffe, uh, who under the the uh Trump administration went directly to the uh you know the TV waves and air and said this um this uh we have no information whatsoever that this is Russian disinformation,
there's no intelligence whatsoever that indicates that he debunks uh what the uh IC 51 are saying and uh makes a very definitive statement uh officially that there is no intelligence that supports their accusation.
You know, uh I mean, is it is it is it worse, Jim Jordan, if Russia or China are spreading disinformation in the lead up to an election, or is it maybe worse when quote former intelligence officials that we count on and depend on to protect us and protect integrity of our elections if they're out there spreading disinformation?
Yeah.
I don't know what's worse.
Right, good great point.
Well, I mean, we we don't I mean, I expect my I expect our enemies to do stuff like that.
I don't expect fellow Americans to do that because they're so invested in one candidate over another.
Yeah, it should never get political.
This was total political operation.
Uh we know that the email that Morrell sent out to all the people when he was trying to solicit signers for the statement, uh, the email itself says, we want this statement so Biden can use it in the upcoming debate because we know Trump's going to raise this issue.
I mean that's what the email said.
So we we know what was political.
We know they could have if they if they had some kind of question, if they legitimately thought it was a Russian information operation, they could have checked, but after all their own contract, thinking what they say.
One person had what's called green badge access, one of the signers that we know of, which means he has unlimited access to CIA facility.
He could have figured this out, but I don't think they wanted to, because it was all about politics.
And when your government remember, this is in the broader context too of all the things the Biden administration told the American people about COVID that weren't accurate.
So we get all kinds of the biggest purveyor of misinformation has typically been the U.S. government on so many issues.
That that to me is a concern.
And and now we know that that very real laptop implicates Joe Biden as the big guy.
Hunter complains bitterly that half his income goes to Pops and that he pays for Pops' home repairs, and that Joe called into meetings, so he lied about the laptop, and he lied about never talking to his son or brother or anybody about these issues.
Uh Mike Turner, I mean, I would think this should be a big issue in this debate tomorrow, but why do I doubt fake news CNN will bring it up?
Um Sean, this also has tremendous amount of irony because Brennan and Clapper, you know, from the Obama administration, former uh director of national intelligence, former director of CIA, signed this letter and claimed that this Hunter Biden laptop falsely completely a lie with Russian disinformation.
They're they were top uh perpetrators of the of the Russia hoax against Trump.
So here they are trying to take down Trump by lying about Russia, and here they're trying to put Biden in by lying about Russia.
You just can't make it up, but this report is critical.
And what will they do this time?
We know what they did in 2016, we know what they did in 2020.
What are they gonna do this time?
Scary thoughts.
Anyway, Jim Jordan, thank you.
Mike Turner, thank you.
We appreciate both your work, uh, both of you and your hard work, and I hope the American people know that the Joe Biden and the media mob lied to them at on the highest levels imaginable.
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Now, there were two very interesting elections yesterday that took place, uh, primary elections.
One had to do with Lauren Boebert.
Uh she had changed districts in Colorado, going to a more friendly district, and she won by a wide margin.
You know, I know a lot of people say, okay, she should have she was in the in the theater, she shouldn't have been vaping, and she should have told the truth about it.
Uh and the woman's been on an apology tour, left, right, and sideways.
It's it's not the worst thing in the world.
It's sad that she's going through a breakup, which she was going through at the time.
You never know the circumstances behind it.
And so, I mean, the fact that so many people have wanted been wanting to bludgeon her.
I think a lot of it really has to do with the support of Donald Trump.
And you might remember the video of her, you know, at the Capitol, and she, you know, was touting her second amendment right in our nation's capital.
And nobody seemed on the left to like that.
And there's a lot of people that are just haters out there of all things conservative.
Anyway, the people of Colorado clearly thought differently of it, and she won a primary, so I say good for her.
And I think, you know, she's apologized enough at this point.
Uh, you know, there's so many, so many times you can beg for you know forgiveness.
Uh, you know, I love that everybody's so perfect in their lives.
Uh the other big primary, uh, I don't think anybody was expecting this uh concession speech last night from Jamal uh Jamal Bowman.
Remember, he tried to pull the fire alarm to stop the vote in Congress.
Yeah, that guy.
Anyway, he outdid himself, leaving no doubt who he blamed for his landslide loss.
And of course, the very thing that led to his defeat, you know, was his uh virulent hatred of APAC and uh his uh you know being a part of the radical uh you know pro-Hamas squad members and and the hate Israel crowd in in Congress.
And anyway, to borrow a phrase uh from Congresswoman Omar, you know, I guess it was quote, all about the Benjamins.
I mean, he he hit out against dark money after he was defeated by George Latimer, a pro-Israel centrist, and he remained unapologetic about his opposition to Israel's war in Gaza.
Well, what is Israel supposed to do when their own people are attacked by radical Islamic terrorists that have in their own charter a call for the destruction of Israel?
They kill, you know, twelve hundred Israelis, they kidnap hundreds more, including Americans, that they're involved in murder, rape, kidnapping, tortures, and beheadings.
And you're blaming Israel?
Why don't you blame the people responsible for starting the war?
But he went on and on and on.
I don't know, maybe it had, you know, something to do with his unhinged speeches this weekend with AOC.
That was a little over the top.
Anyway, this is part of that rally from the weekend.
Let's go, bro!
Are we ready?
I am the hip hop congressman.
I want to hear South Bronx chant right now.
South Bronx!
South Sound Bronx.
We all gonna show APAC!
The power of the mother broke!
And we're gonna keep calling for permanent ceasefire.
Cease fire now!
Cease fire now!
Cease fire now.
Okay.
Good riddance to a horrible person.
And uh let's get to our busy phones.
Let's say hi to Diana.
She's in Arizona.
Diana, how are you?
Glad you called.
Hi, Sean.
How are you?
Thank you for taking my call.
Um, I watch you every day and appreciate what you do.
I have an update.
Thank you.
Uh um for President Trump uh for tomorrow's debate.
I'm really concerned about the fairness of the uh debate and them controlling the mic.
Um, so what I think would be a good idea would be for him to have a press conference directly after uh that debate, specifically for the purpose of only addressing every question that they asked him and would not let him answer, would not let him finish, or they cut him off, just very calmly uh go um, you know, address the questions that he couldn't finish answering.
And so it'll be really clear for ever for both sides to hear what he has to say and to hear his answers.
I I the only problem with that, and I think you're you're thinking through this, and I think you are are tapping into what is obvious that this is gonna be you know a three-on-one of a fake news CNN debate with fake Jake and fake Dana that have shown nothing but contempt and hatred for Trump, and they're basically part of the you know democratic socialist apparatus, and and that's who they are.
They claim to be journalists and they're not.
Um however, the real viewing is going to be during the debate.
So he's really gonna have to do his best to uh under difficult circumstances, as per usual, unfair circumstances when it comes to Trump, I guess, as per usual, and he's gonna have to do his best to cut through all the clutter and all the noise and all the distractions and all the attacks and all the bias and reach the American people with his message.
He doesn't have a lot of time to do it.
Uh, if he has asked the first question, he'll have two minutes to respond.
Then Joe will have one minute and then he'll have another minute to respond.
Then there's this discretionary minute of fake Jake and fake Dana, which I don't like at all.
And then, of course, fake news CNN editorially will put a truncated version of the question on the screen.
So I think you'll see a lot of bias in the way they phrase the question that they put on the screen.
With all of that said, I have a lot of confidence in President Trump's ability to go in there and do the job he needs to do.
I'm not worried so much about what Joe Biden does.
I'm not worried if it's jacked up, hyper caffeinated Joe, or whether or not it's cognitively impaired.
Joe.
Joe's gonna do what Joe's gonna do.
Joe's gonna try and piss off Trump.
Joe's gonna try and make it all about Trump, and Joe's gonna try and dodge and duck and weave and and you know, slither away and not answer any questions about his record.
And I think it's Donald Trump's job job to point it out, and I think he'll do the best he can do under the circumstances.
Now, Newt Gingrich says something very, very I think important.
He says, yeah, the debate's important, no doubt about it.
However, after the debate, people are gonna go back into the grocery store and they're gonna pay.
You know, we just had consumer confidence, you know, go down again in June because more people are more pessimistic about the Biden economy.
Biden's inflation has forced more than 25% of Americans to skip meals.
Two-thirds of the country say economically they're gulping water.
Uh Secretary of the Treasury, Janet Yellen, uh, she doesn't notice the higher prices at at the store.
I'm like, well, what's wrong with you?
What stores are you going?
Or where are you going shopping?
Because, you know, most Americans, a dozen eggs are up 98%, orange juice, 71%, bread 53%, cookies, 53%, yogurt, 49%, soft drinks, 45%, coffee, 44%, ground beef, 35%.
God forbid you want steak.
Forget that.
Chicken, 33%, you know, gas utility, 32%, rice, milk, regular unleaded gas, you know, electricity, all up 30%, potatoes, bacon.
Uh, you know, it's it's all through the roof.
And, you know, we're spending about 12 grand more for the same items we were spending on in 2020.
And yet they've lied and told us that it's transitory and that it's fixed.
No.
Biden inflation is 20%, over 20% higher.
And interest rates are so much dramatically higher to try and tame Biden inflation.
So people are still gonna have to go shopping, and people are still gonna fill up their cars, and people are gonna still see the state of the world.
They're gonna see the disaster of his immigration policies, the disaster of his his energy policies.
They're gonna see the disaster of defund dismantle no bail laws, and they're gonna live in Biden's America.
And you know, whether it's jacked up Joe, whether he has the best debate in his life, it's not going to change the reality of America today.
But I don't know how capable he is.
I don't I'm it's good to me it's gonna be fascinating to watch.
But do I have any worries about Donald Trump in tomorrow night's debate, knowing the circumstances he's walking into?
I have concern.
I think it's unfair, but do I worried about it?
Not at all.
I really am not.
So my heart's my heart's not troubled.
Remember, I you know, I spent two hours with him just a week, what a week and a half, two weeks ago, whatever it was.
I'm I'm telling you, he's dialed in.
He I spent and he can he can talk on any topic at length.
If he didn't do any preparation at all, and I'm sure he probably did, you know, a decent amount, uh, he would be fine.
And he knows what's coming.
He's very smart, and I think Donald Trump would like to win this election.
And I think that's one of the reasons I think we've been seeing a much more focused, much more disciplined Donald Trump on the campaign trail than maybe we saw in 2020.
But we'll see.
Anyway, I appreciate the call, Diana.
We're gonna stay in Arizona with Scott.
Scott, you're on the Sean Hannity show.
Hi.
Hey, Sean, how are you doing?
Um first off, I just want to say thank you for everything you do.
Um this country needs it, and it is appreciated with everything you do.
Hey, listen, I appreciate you give me this microphone every day and that camera, or else I'd be driving around in my car talking to myself.
I'd be a lunatic.
Yeah, I hear you.
Uh, in keeping with a similar theme here, too, with from the previous caller.
Um, you know, I don't know all the rules of the debate, and you actually mentioned a few things that might uh enlighten a little bit.
But so we know when when Biden's gonna be talking, they're gonna cut Trump's mic mic off.
And I just had this idea popped up in my head, and I don't know, I'm sure it probably would isn't allowed, but when Joe's talking, and you know when he's talking, he's gonna be spewing lies.
He's either gonna be saying things are are misleading or just out and out lies.
And when he says something that is a just a blatant lie, uh especially referring back to what Trump's administration when he did or didn't do, if if Trump could just have a little sign, since his mic's turned off, he just holds up a sign that just says lie, or that's a lie or not true, or something just to respond to when Joe's talking just to let everyone know, oh no, that's a lie.
And you know, he'd probably do it one time, and uh CNN people would freak out and say, Yeah, it's he's he's a threat to democracy, you see.
But I don't know.
Maybe it's just something that he could do, let people know.
Yep, it's a lie, it's a lie, it's a lie, because that's all Joe's gonna do.
It's just constantly lie.
He's gonna have to do the best with a format that he had little to no say in.
He had a venue that he had little to no say in with moderators that he had little to no say in, and that's the first time this has ever happened in the history of of modern televised presidential debates, and the media doesn't care that it's unfair because it's Donald Trump that is being treated unfairly.
If it was Joe Biden, they would be screaming bloody murder.
I give him a lot of credit.
I mean, I I actually do believe that uh Biden dictated these terms.
I'll only do these networks, I insist on these rules, and Trump has no say in the moderators or the format, and he's gonna shut off his micros.
I'm not doing it.
And if Trump said no, he would have said, okay, well, the Trump doesn't want to debate, he's a chicken.
And I think they didn't expect Trump to say yes.
But Trump took advantage of it.
You gotta give him you gotta give him credit.
He's got guts.
Appreciate the call.
Uh let's get back to our phones.
Amarillo, Texas, Tony next, Sean Hannity show.
So uh suggestion for the debate tomorrow night.
I would love to see President Trump stand up there and say the American people are concerned about the health of their president.
I took a drug test an hour before the debate.
Dr. Ronnie Jackson is here.
I I'm willing to take one after the debate.
Joe Biden, are you willing to take uh drug test after the debate is over?
He's not gonna do it.
I he can't do it, I don't think.
Um the the other question I had was about the Supreme Court ruling today.
Um, if Ken Paxton doesn't have standing on my behalf as the representative for the people of the state of Texas, who the hell does have standing?
This may be I I agree with you completely.
And I stand with Alito and Gorsuch and Clarence Thomas on this, and I thought it was a terrible decision.
I really do.
Very disappointed in Kavanaugh, Amy Coney Barrett, and John Roberts.
Very disappointed.
Uh, I wish I had more time to get into it though, but I'm just up on the clock, my friend.
Uh, God bless you.
800-941 Sean is our number.
By the way, we will be coming to you from Atlanta tomorrow during this radio show.
Um, I will be on Fox for the 8 o'clock hour uh and on immediately after the debate and hosting Hannity at 11 o'clock Eastern time.
So we we got a great night.
You're gonna see a lot of you're gonna hear and see a lot of me tomorrow.
Hope you don't get sick of me.
All right, that's gonna wrap things up for today.
Great preview of the big debate tomorrow night and much, much more.
Dr. Ronnie Jackson will join us.
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