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June 6, 2024 - Sean Hannity Show
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Hunter's Laptop - June 6th, Hour 2

 Gregg Jarrett, Fox News Legal Analyst & Best Selling Author, & Roger Severino, VP of Domestic Policy at Heritage and Trump's former Director of the Office of Civil Rights (HHS) discuss the rampant claims that Hunter’s laptop was Russian disinformation, what do those folks have to say now?See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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By the way, the prosecution may rest, we're told, as early as tomorrow in this case against Hunter Biden.
Seems very cut and dry, although I can see where Abby Lowell, Hunter Biden's attorney, is going to try to, you know, basically thread a needle and say, well, there's no evidence on that day that he smoked crack cocaine.
Now, whether or not the very favorable venue of Delaware will buy into that and I don't know, he gets acquitted or a hung jury.
I don't know how that's going to play out.
Certainly not as corrupt a venue as Donald Trump had in New York, which is pretty unbelievable and flagrant to me.
But it's certainly getting interesting.
You know, it is, you know, for the longest time, all the calls that the Hunter laptop from hell was just disinformation.
It's disinformation.
It's Russian disinformation.
You know, on Tuesday, a top FBI official testified that not only was Hunter's laptop 100% authentic, but claims by Biden's defenders that it had been doctored with fabricated evidence were completely bogus.
Don't hold your breath waiting for apologies from the media frauds and the mob who hid the truth about the laptop from you, the American people, even though their lies helped change the outcome of the 2020 election with the help of big tech and the media mob, you know, not covering the story, which they should have.
They're never, we're never going to get an apology.
You know, it's only fair that those of us that told the truth remind you that we told you the truth.
Well, let's take a little trip down memory lane.
You know, let's listen to Joe Biden.
Hunter's laptop is Russian disinformation.
How would he have known that when he said it?
He just flat out lied.
Listen.
There are 50 former national intelligence folks who said that what this he's accusing me of is a Russian plant.
There's overwhelming evidence that, from the intelligence community, that the Russians are engaged.
I still think that the stories from the fall about his son, Hunter, were right to visit the station that appeared in his family today.
Yes, yes, yes.
God love you, man.
Those 51 former intelligence people, you mean the ones organized by Tony Blinken, the ones that knew absolutely nothing about whether or not the laptop was real or not, but they just knew they wanted Joe Biden elected.
You mean those people?
Seriously?
Anyway, that's where we find ourselves.
And then, of course, you have the mob and the media, you know, basically echoing because they're nothing but an extension of the Biden press office and the press machine, you know, that Hunter's laptop disinformation is Russian disinformation or disinformation montage.
I got that too.
Listen.
I think it's broadly known and widely known, Peter, that there was a broad range of Russian disinformation.
The origins of this whole smear are from the Kremlin.
This classic textbook, Soviet Russian tradecraft at work.
Looks like a classic Russian playbook disinformation campaign.
U.S. authorities are seeing if those emails we just talked about are connected to an ongoing Russian disinformation effort.
It is so obviously a Russian operation.
Hunter Biden, this laptop that intelligence officials have warned is likely Russian disinformation.
Ongoing Russian disinformation effort.
Ongoing Russian disinformation effort.
Oh, Russian disinformation, Russian disinformation, Russian disinformation.
They just flat out freaking lie.
Now, a lot went on in court today, and the defense zeroed in on the wording of the drug question on the ATF form.
Have you ever been versus are you?
The question is about drugs.
In wrapping up cross-examination, Abby Lowell, smart attorney, I know him, asked him if he observed that Hunter Biden exhibited signs of drugs.
This is the guy that took the application of Hunter Biden.
No, none at all.
But before the jury was seated, an objection over the use of text messages between Hallie and Hunter Biden, that the defense was attempting to enter into evidence.
That happened today.
We know that Hallie Biden, the widowed wife of Hunter's brother, Bo Biden, and then Hunter became her boyfriend.
She was called to the stand.
She described the whole scene, you know, about she didn't know what crack cocaine had ever been.
And eventually Hunter got her, Hunter and her used crack cocaine together, talked about Hunter on crack cocaine, what his demeanor was, how it would change when he was on crack, how he'd become agitated, high-strung, but at other times functioning as well.
And she admitted that Hunter introduced her to crack cocaine.
She said she was ashamed about that period of her life, and she gave up, you know, drug use fairly quickly, is my understanding.
And then she tells the whole story how she found the gun and the ammo in his car and panicked.
And he was asleep at the time, didn't want him to hurt himself or her kids.
And anyway, and didn't know what to do.
She was going to hide it.
She was afraid that the kids may find it.
And the whole story about how she put it in this dumpster.
And then it gets into this whole issue of, well, okay, the next day that Hunter was waiting for a drug dealer named Mookie in Wilmington the very next day after signing the gun application form.
It seems pretty compelling.
You know, the day after the second text about sleeping in the car, I just want to help you get sober.
Nothing I can do is working.
I'm afraid you're going to die, you know, and admits that she was afraid of suicide and overdose.
How can you not be?
Anyway, joining us now to analyze where this case is, we welcome back Fox News legal analyst, best-selling author, our friend Greg Jarrett, is with us.
Also, Roger Severino, Vice President, Domestic Policy, Heritage Foundation, and Trump's former director of the Office of Civil Rights at Health and Human Services.
Welcome back, both of you.
Thank you.
Greg, the evidence seems pretty compelling and overwhelming.
I understand what Abby Lowell is trying to do.
He's establishing that there was not a witness that he was addicted to drugs on that particular one day.
But the next day, he's getting crack from some crack dealer named Mookie.
How will the jury interpret that?
They will hopefully follow the judge's jury instructions.
The judge has already ruled that prosecutors do not have to prove that he was addicted or even high on drugs that day, only that during the general time frame that he was an unlawful user of controlled substances and addicted, and that he therefore lied on the form.
Look, you're right when you say that the evidence against him is overwhelming.
His defense, oh, you know, I was in denial about my addiction, and so I didn't knowingly lie on the form.
I mean, that's an absurd defense.
But unlike former President Trump's recent New York trial, there is no hostile jury sitting in judgment in Wilmington.
In fact, it's just the opposite.
This is the Biden family home turf.
It's their personal fiefdom.
They all but own the state of Delaware.
So the friendly jury may choose to overlook the laptop evidence where Hunter Biden implicates himself.
They may reject all the testimony from the witnesses that would otherwise lead to a quick conviction.
The defense team knows this.
That's why they have a twofold strategy.
Sympathy for a recovering drug addict and jury nullification.
Now, that relies on this unstated power of 12 individuals.
They can disregard their oath.
They can ignore the evidence and the law.
They can acquit simply because they want to.
It doesn't matter that the U.S. Supreme Court has said that juries have no right to negate the law because secrecy in jury deliberations gives them complete protection.
They have unfettered authority to do as they please, and they may acquit here because it's Hunter Biden on trial, and this is Biden country.
I mean, pick up on that point that this is a favorable venue for anybody with the last name Biden Roger and the issue of, okay, you know, looking at the jurors, most of whom during jury selection showed that they were very sympathetic on the issue of drug addiction, which, by the way, Donald Trump last night in my interview with him, you know, he lost a brother to addiction.
It was an alcoholic, and he told a very passionate story about his brother and is sympathetic to people that are addicted to drugs.
We see what's happening to our country with opioids and fentanyl and the like.
I mean, you know, our kids are being targeted to die at this point.
It's unbelievable.
So I'm sympathetic towards it too, to be very honest with you.
I've met so many people in my life that have struggled with it, and too many that I care to mention that are dead because of it.
So there's an important distinction.
There are those who are seeking help and have substance use disorder, are in treatment, are recovering.
They've got all sorts of protections.
What happened here is you have an active drug user who is seeking to buy a gun, and that is a federal crime for really good reasons.
We don't want people high on crack running around with guns, right?
There's some really common sense protections here.
So if you are committing that particular crime, it's unlawful for you to buy a gun.
And that's exactly what he did.
And we have the question of, okay, why, since it's such an open and shut case, why is he not pleading guilty and trying to get a plea deal?
Well, if you recall, he did get a sweetheart deal from the prosecutor the first time around, and he got rid of his tax charges, got rid of the gun charge.
He didn't have to plead actual guilt to admission of crime there.
That sweetheart deal was uncovered by a judge who said, you know what?
I'm going to look into this.
I'm not going to sign off on this deal because it seems fishy.
So when the judge started asking hard questions, the public found out about it.
Then we find out that, wow, there was interference with the tax charges that the IRS folks weren't allowed to fully investigate.
And then the notion was, it's because this is the Biden family.
The Biden family always gets special treatment.
If you had this case that was going to be swept under the rug, he never would have faced justice.
There was a public outcry because those IRS agents stood up.
They were whistleblowers, brought the case back to life, embarrassed Weiss, so he actually charged this open and shut case.
And the evidence proved it's open and shut.
They found drugs in the same bag that he had the gun in that his girlfriend went to go throw away, right?
The drugs were there when he had just bought the gun, yet DOG was not going to prosecute.
Again, this shows that the Biden crime family thinks they could get away with everything.
So the only question left is: given that there's home court advantage in this Delaware jury, will that make a difference ultimately?
Because under the law, he's as guilty as it comes.
I think Home Court Advantage is true.
Our colleague Ari Fleischer, Greg Jarrett, said the other night on TV: you know, I'd really like to believe that we have equal justice under the law in America and that lawfare doesn't exist.
I'd really love to believe that.
And then he went on to say, however, it appears that the venue that you are being tried in and that the judge that is in charge of your case plays a much bigger role in whether or not you're going to get a fair trial or not than anything else.
I mean, and you can see the clear-cut differences between this case and what Donald Trump went through and the case in New York.
Yes, and it's still going on.
For example, there's no justification, Sean, for continuing the gag order.
I mean, the whole purpose was to protect the integrity of the trial so that comments wouldn't influence the jury unduly or subvert the process.
But guess what?
The trial's over.
The jury dismissed.
Judge Marshan should have immediately terminated a gag order.
The fact that he didn't is more evidence of his anti-Trump bias.
And the fact that Alvin Bragg still wants the defendant gag, he sent a letter yesterday, shows that his motive all along was to damage Trump politically, delegitimize his candidacy to interfere in the election to help Joe Biden.
Bragg and Marshon both know that this verdict will be overturned because there was never any real crime.
The supposed felonious conduct was never even disclosed until the trial was over and the judge read the jury instructions.
This is an outrageous constitutional due process violation.
It was deliberate, but the wrongful conviction could make the difference in a close election.
That's why they did it.
And as former Attorney General Bill Barr said, half the nation, if that happens, will think the election was stolen when the case is overturned.
And the damage to our democracy is really breathtaking.
Last word, Roger Severino.
The fact that we're even wondering if a former president who's leading in the polls now to get back in office might end up in jail, even if for a short time, or with an ankle bracelet, just shows that there is no bottom when it comes to the law affair the left is willing to engage in to interfere with an election.
It's shameful that it's gotten this far.
We have to hold our breaths as a nation until July 11th until this biased judge lets us know if the next potential president is going to be behind bars or not.
I really appreciate both of you.
Roger Severino, thank you.
Greg Jarrett, thank you.
We'll get to your calls coming up, 800-941-Sean.
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Is it Lee?
Is it?
I think so, right?
Lee in Florida.
Did I get it right?
The free state of Florida.
How are you?
You got it, Sean.
Can you hear me?
Can you hear me?
I'm good.
What's going on?
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Thank you.
Thanks.
I saw your interview last night.
And of course, we well know that President Trump's very charming.
And of course, y'all are great friends.
I think y'all are great friends.
And he's really charming when you have the one-on-one.
And we all love that about him.
But my concern, and I don't think it's only my concern, that when he's back in the White House, is he going to be able to maintain that?
I mean, we all know it's important for him to approach any conversation with respect and diplomacy.
We're all calling for him, or I know I am.
But my question is, Sean, is he going to be able to frame his thoughts and his words in a constructive and a diplomatic manner rather than criticizing and attacking?
I mean, when he's one-on-one.
Well, I mean, let me ask you a question.
Yeah.
If Donald Trump is fighting with Mexico and demanding that Mexico and charging Mexico tariffs so that that money could be spent for the wall and demanding that Mexico do their part in preventing illegal immigration here and negotiating a new trade agreement after the disaster of NAFTA, he's pretty tough, right?
Oh, yeah, and I agree with that.
And he's pretty tough when he put tariffs on China, right?
And I want him to be.
That's not my point.
What I truly, I agree with you totally.
Do you want this?
Do you expect that the switch is going to just completely turn off and he's always going to be nice?
Look, I agree with you.
When I do an interview with him and you see another side of him, and it's all part of who he really is.
Right.
And I'm more concerned.
It's just more that if you don't agree with him, let's talk about when he's giving some kind of interview or if it's, I've even seen other people on Fox.
If they just don't agree with him, then he goes and he calls them rhinos.
And I guarantee you, I don't agree with him on any everything, but I don't consider myself a rhino.
And then if it's someone else in the media, I'm just afraid we all hold our breath that he just will lose it.
And he does the name calling.
I mean, I heard him last night how he was saying how he calls Newsom a name.
And I understand that.
But I'm concerned about it going back and just being the little bully on the kindergarten playground.
I mean, we can't have, we just can't have that.
And I think that's what's going to keep a lot of people from wanting to go back to the polls, just saying, oh, my gosh, just can't we have this presidential decorum?
Can't we just bring our country together and you express your thoughts and your opinions respectfully so you can have some kind of productive and meaningful conversation to bring the country together.
I mean, how can he do that?
Trump said something last night that is really true, though.
Think about this, because I think it's correct.
Success is unifying.
In other words, if we can get the economy back on track, control our borders, eliminate those people and start doing the job of somehow, I don't know how you do it, finding and vetting Joe Biden's illegal immigrants and sending people home that didn't respect our laws, our borders, and our sovereignty.
And he starts that difficult process because I'm afraid terror cells from Iran, Syria, China, Egypt, Afghanistan, Yemen, Russia, China.
I mean, who knows who Joe will out into this country?
I do believe that it's inevitable we're going to be hit because of what Joe Biden has done to this country and compromised our national security.
And, you know, I can only tell you that there's going to be a lot of work ahead.
However, we get the economy on track, we fix our borders, we restore law and order in our cities, we have a president that is respected again on the world stage, a president that won't surrender in the war on terrorism the way Joe did with Hamas and betray Israel.
I think the world's going to be a lot better off.
Now, I think we're going to pay the consequence at some point for Joe's open borders policy.
But with that said, he's going to have to fight for a lot of these things.
Democrats are not going to ever want to help him.
They cannot stand the sight of him.
They have derangement syndrome.
They have this Trump psychosis.
So it's got to be, look, voting starts, I guess, in some states as early as September or some point.
I'll get the exact date.
And when early voting starts, and Trump is saying this, you've got to embrace early voting, voting by mail, the system, not that we want, the system we're stuck with, but you can't start out election day, down hundreds of thousands of votes.
And then let's take it from there and give him an opportunity.
All right, appreciate the call.
Thank you.
All right, back to our busy phones as we say hi to, let's see, Dave in Virginia.
Dave, how are you?
Glad you called.
Says you disagree with me.
I'm like, I love disagreeing calls.
What's on your mind?
Well, I think you're super rhino.
Super rhino?
I've been called a lot of things.
Why am I a super rhino?
You know, when I first supported Trump before everybody else, I was excoriated by some of the most MAGA people in the world now that didn't support Trump.
But go ahead, attack me.
You belittle a caller last night about 5 o'clock.
Coast time.
Didn't belittle him.
I just took issue with what he wanted to do.
No, you belittle him.
Joe Biden has set the bar.
It says that nobody, no one is above the law.
Okay.
Let's, once Trump gets into the Okay, let me help you out because you're not doing particularly well with your call.
And I think I know the call you're referring to, okay?
So let me help you out.
And I said that I believe in our Constitution.
I said I believe in the rule of law.
I said, I don't want what they have done to Donald Trump.
Everybody agrees nobody except Donald Trump would have been tried in New York.
That's called lawfare.
That's the weaponization of our justice system.
Okay.
said that I don't want Republicans to use that unconstitutional method against Democrats because then we don't have a constitution.
Now, does that mean that legitimate criminal inquiry is somehow off the table for me?
No, I said just the opposite if you go back and listen to the call.
I said we've got to equally apply our laws, equal justice under the law, equal application of our laws.
There's nobody that has been on radio or TV that has spelled out what I believe are real, real issues, legal issues for the Bidens than I have.
And that would be Joe, federal policy, multi-agency agreement in October 2015, that enough progress had been made on the issue of corruption in Ukraine.
So they're going to give him a billion in loan guarantees under the Obama administration.
It was Joe's charge as vice president to make that happen.
And then he went, after speaking five days or so before he went, he spoke to Hunter and Burisma executives who were in Dubai about their need for D.C. help because of this investigator, this prosecutor, who was investigating Burisma.
Remember, his son went on Good Morning America, admitted he had no experience in energy, oil, gas, coal, or Ukraine, and he's being paid millions of dollars.
And so Joe goes over there, does something I believe he had no right to do, leverage a billion taxpayer dollars.
And what was the outcome of that?
His son continued to get paid for no experience at a time when he admits he was addicted to drugs.
Okay, that's not lawfare.
That would be a case, in my view, of equal justice under the law, holding people accountable under the law, unlike what they did to Trump in New York.
Are you saying that you would want what happened in New York to be used by Republicans?
Are you saying that?
We just lost the call.
Anyway, Ted in Delaware can pick up on that point.
He disagrees with me too.
Same issue.
Ted, how are you?
How are you doing, Sean?
I've been listening to you for a long time.
My point is this.
I think you touched basis with what I was about to say because I disagree in the point that sometimes I'm old school.
You've got to fight fire with fire.
Now, with that being said, I listened to the interview, and I wish that somewhere the word investigation would have came out of President Trump's mouth.
I wish that's what I'm saying.
Some of this things.
I know he's.
He did say that.
He went into a whole list of things.
You know, if you're talking about the interview, which is separate from the call, in the interview, he said, yeah, of course, he goes, no, lawfare has to stop.
I don't know why people are having a hard time with this.
Lawfare has to stop.
Nobody but Donald Trump would ever have been brought up on an eight-year-old NDA case that they upcharge to a federal election law under which I argue they have no jurisdiction, whose statute of limitations on a misdemeanor had run out, than Donald Trump.
That's lawfare.
That is weaponization of justice.
And we have many examples of it.
And I'm just saying, you know, Steve Bannon now has to go to jail for contempt of Congress.
Okay, is Mayorkas going to go to jail?
Is Merrick Garland going to go to jail?
Why didn't Eric Holder go to jail for contempt of Congress?
So I am saying it's got to be equal justice.
I'm saying don't abuse our justice system to go after political enemies because if you do that, you don't have a constitution.
Do you understand my distinction here?
Yeah, I understand you clearly.
But my point is, some things just need to be investigated.
So these type of things.
Who has been more outspoken on the Biden family syndicate than I have been?
Of course you have.
Of course you have.
Okay, well, that's an investigation.
Congress is doing an investigation.
They're even investigating lawfare, and they're investigating the Biden family.
And they just referred, by the way, Hunter Biden and James Biden for referrals, criminal referrals, just yesterday.
Okay.
Let me just turn it this way.
Would you be in favor for President Trump to find a real strong attorney general in some of these accusations that have been made against you?
Well, of course I would.
I mean, I frankly have been leading the charge on pointing out how come you think so many people know about Quid Pro quo Joe and leveraging a billion taxpayer dollars and Hunter with zero experience.
Do you think a lot of people know that because of my two shows?
Right, right, right.
I agree.
Well, the answer is the answer is obvious, but I'm just saying, but then what I'm saying is you can't do what they did in New York to anybody.
If you're going to raid people for top secret classified documents, you can't raid one person that's the Republican and you don't do the same thing to the Democrat.
That's lawfare.
That's weaponization.
You can't let Hillary Clinton off the hook because she's a Clinton in that particular case.
Does that make sense?
Well said, but I just say we got to toughen up.
I mean, you know.
Dude, I'm the one that's sitting here.
You know, a lot of people wouldn't know about this except for this show and the work of, you know, the great reporters we put on like John Solomon and so many others.
Oh, we're definitely informed.
But like I said, sometimes I look at it from the Republican point of view, not basically.
But don't become them is all I'm saying.
Don't go after something that is just superfluous and nonsensical, and don't compromise our great Constitution out of revenge.
That's not something I'd support, and I don't think you would either, would you?
No, no.
Like you said, but sometimes, like I said, we just have to, like I said, just toughen up a little bit and do it the right way, but yet still just.
Yeah, I want these guys to toughen up.
When they went after Garland this week, they got a hell yeah out of Sean Hannity because they've toughened up.
Right, right.
So I'm with you.
But, you know, we got 30, you know, 20 or 30 rhino Republicans that, you know, are absolutely useless in the House, which is why Mike Johnson can't get anything done and why Kevin McCarthy had a hard time getting things done.
Okay?
We'll deal with that later on when Trump's in there.
But right now, you know, I think we're still on the same accord.
But I do, my disagreement was kind of small.
So you're still my favorite radio host.
So I'm not going to turn you off.
I appreciate it.
Maybe, Linda, was I just not articulate on the point yesterday?
Did I not make the distinction enough?
Yeah, maybe.
Yeah, maybe.
But I mean, I'm very clear.
I mean, have we not been the ones pointing out all the areas that we think need to be investigated?
I think what people are looking for is we're mad as hell and we're not going to take it anymore.
But there's a way to do things and there's a way to win.
And I've been doing it a lot longer than the average bear.
So follow my lead just a little bit.
I agree with you, but we can't go around knocking people's door down and punching them in the face because that's not going to win us the vote of the suburban mom or the evangelicals any day of the week.
Okay.
Have you been drinking moonshine today?
You're making sense.
I know.
It's fun, isn't it?
It's wacky Thursday.
Oh, my gosh, it's wacky Thursday.
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