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Lies...Lies...Lies - May 14th, Hour 1

Michael Cohen has lied so many times it's hard to keep track.  It's so bad that he wanted his own reality TV show... well, sadly, he got it!  Sean has the latest...See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Well, the sideshow continues, and I don't know what to make of this circus out of New York.
Look, I don't like to be pollyannish about anything.
And we now have cross-examination has begun, and I'll give you some details of what's been coming out.
One thing that has come out already is, oh, yeah, he wants Donald Trump in jail.
Oh, he wants Donald Trump convicted.
Oh, yeah, he, but I enjoyed my time working for Donald Trump.
And, oh, yeah, all these materials, by the way, that they had that he has for sale and his TikTok video asking for gifts, et cetera, et cetera.
Oh, that's all perfectly fine.
No gag order on Michael Cohn at all in any way whatsoever.
It's pretty unbelievable because this is now their star witness.
This is the guy, Donald Trump stuck at a New York courtroom as this political show trial sham trial continues.
You have these phantom charges that have been cooked up by Democrat Alvin Bragg.
He ran on a platform to destroy Donald Trump.
The case in reality was a misdemeanor in terms of a document labeling allegation that never actually met the smell test in any way, shape, matter, or form either.
Just putting that aside, if you look at the actual statute of the law, 17152, that would be falsification of a business record.
And one thing they haven't been able to do is meet the standard, even though the statute of limitations, again, ran out.
They would need to show that Donald Trump intended to do so.
And by the way, when Donald Trump pays his lawyer in 2018 or whatever he paid or 2017 after the election, it was booked as a legal expense.
Really?
When you pay your lawyer who was involved in a legal NDA and it's referred to as a legal expense, oh, okay, that means that that wouldn't be necessarily the wrong thing to do because actually NDAs like this are actually fairly common, more common than most people actually know.
You know, by the way, it's not even clear why paying a lawyer a lump sum of money for services and costs, including an NDA agreement, that was not a legal expense.
They've never met that standard.
But then you have this nebulous, novel application of a law that, again, hasn't even been really specified to the defense, although I thought in America that every defendant would know what they're actually being charged with as the case now is entering its, what, it's in its fourth week.
You know, they would have an opportunity to defend themselves, but they don't even know what they're defending themselves with.
But then they would have to, you know, show that, well, the intent was to falsify records with the intent to break election laws, which the Department of Justice themselves, even as weaponized as it is under Joe Biden, decided, yeah, it didn't meet the criteria to bring forward a charge against Donald Trump.
And his predecessor didn't think this met the standard either, Cy Vance.
And in the beginning, Alvin Bragg didn't think so until he was embarrassed by two prosecutors that very publicly ended up pulling out of the case.
But now we got the star witness in the courtroom.
Donald Trump not on the campaign trail.
You know, the reality of this case is you've got a misdemeanor document labeling allegation from nearly, what, what, 2015, 16, 2016, upcharge to a felony because of this unexplained federal election crime that was never prosecuted on the federal level.
And Democrats obviously using the system of justice.
This is what a weaponized DOJ of Joe Biden looks like.
This is not equal justice under the law.
This is not equal application of our laws.
I mean, this is a travesty of justice.
And I'll tell you, if you go back and think about this, when was Bill, what happened the day that Bill Clinton was impeached?
Remember, his poll numbers were quite high.
If you look at everything these radical Democrats, radical media mob people that they have thrown at Donald J. Trump, starting with three long years of Russia, Russia, Russia, Russia, Russia, not one, but two impeachments.
You know, stormy, stormy, stormy.
And it goes on and on and on.
And January 6th, prime time hearings, but we're not going to show the American people that many of you will peacefully, patriotically march so your voices will be heard.
We're not going to hear from the Capitol Police Chief Sund, who was begging for the National Guard but was declined every time he asked.
They're not going to hear from the five people in the days leading up to January 6th.
They're not going to hear from those people that heard Donald Trump approved up to 10,000 guard troops in case anything were to happen that day with large crowds going to the nation's capital.
Wow, that sounds like the move of somebody with an insurrection.
So the American people have gotten hip to the injustice around all of this.
And now you have this ridiculous case brought to, and the star witness in this case is a Trump hater by the name of Michael Cohn.
I mean, you just don't get any more biased or corrupt than this.
This star witness, disbarred lawyer, Trump hater, just admitted on the stand.
He hates Trump, wants him convicted, released from prison, multi-year sentence, tax evasion, bank fraud, variety of other crimes.
Convicted of lying to Congress after lying under oath.
He is now facing more allegations of lying to Congress, recently referred to Biden's weaponized DOJ.
But, well, if Donald Trump became president, I don't think the statute of limitations have run out.
He might have a lot to lose if Donald Trump's not convicted here and gets elected president as the 47th president of the United States.
A guy all over TikTok looking for gifts, wearing t-shirts, showing Donald Trump behind bars, and worse, you know, even fake news, CNN, they cannot believe this is happening.
We played yesterday, Fareed Zakaria, saying if his last name wasn't Trump, this case would not exist.
And here's CNN, this guy, Eli Hone.
Let me play this for you.
You know, just shocked that the prosecution would ask a jury to believe anything that Michael Cohen has to say, but they are.
It's happening.
You know, it's been happening the last day and a half.
Listen.
Here's what makes Michael Cohen so unusual, so unique.
I've never seen a witness with bigger credibility problems than Michael Cohen.
I've definitely seen witnesses.
I've definitely used witnesses who've done way worse things than Michael Cohen, but I've never seen a witness who's lied to Congress, who's lied in court, who's lied to the IRS, who's lied to the Southern District of New York, who lied to his banker.
You know, the entire prosecution witness team has been lied to by Michael Cohen.
Oh, Jonathan Turley writing, Mr. Fix it, Michael Cohen bombed on the stand, offering no new evidence to convict Trump.
And then he pointed out something.
I had not seen this.
I don't know how I missed it yesterday, but the New York Post reported, and I had the hard copy.
Maybe I got an earlier edition.
But anyway, he wanted a reality show, it turns out.
Well, he's got his reality show right now.
And anyway, he, you know, you can see that, I guess, on TikTok and the mugs that he wants to sell and the t-shirts that he's wearing of Donald Trump in jail.
But anyway, before he took the stand, the New York Post, as pointed out by Jonathan Turley, revealed that Cohn had been peddling a reality show called The Fixer, including working with some guy named Colin Whalen, who helped create Joe Exotic.
Remember the Joe Exotic guy, Tigers Lies, and Cover-Up?
Anyway, apparently he appeared interested to stay within the genre.
And anyway, that pitch came with a pretty cheesy promo video where he promised viewers, I am your fixer.
Wow, sounds like he's trying to benefit off of this.
He tells viewers that he is now their fix to their problems because the little guy doesn't usually have access to people with his particular skill set.
You got to like what Hulk Pick said about Cohn, that he's constantly trying to insinuate himself into the campaign and that he used to like to call himself mixed or fix it, but it was only because he first broke it.
Anyway, cross-examination, which just began a short time ago, literally started off in a pretty combative tone.
And anyway, you know who I am, don't you?
Defense attorney Todd Blanche asked Cohn.
I do.
In fact, on April 23rd, you went on TikTok, TikTok, and called me a crying little shh Adam Schiff, didn't you?
Sounds like something I would say, Cohn said, prompting some laughter in the overflow room.
Prosecution objected, prompting a conference at the bench.
And then Michael Cohn testifying about the fallout for his work with Donald Trump, but he loved working for Donald Trump, he said.
I lost my law license as a direct result of this.
And he said he wrote his book, Disloyal to Pastime in Prison, wrote a second book, Revenge, in which he was described as a forensic dissection of the prosecution against a critic of the president.
The jury then saw a 2023 media post, Michael Cohn's and convicted liar and felon.
Anyway, the prosecutor questioned Cohn about Trump in this particular case.
But, you know, the cross goes on right now.
And it just has been that kind of day.
And, you know, but one thing that nobody is really, you know, able to get into is the issue of the law.
And, you know, the intent.
Where's the intent?
What Donald Trump has said on that tape that was played in court yesterday?
That what payment?
Actually said that.
What payment?
Referring to all of this.
No, did he intend to break laws?
Is there any evidence of what the intent behind all this was?
But the problem here is, and this is where I'm not Pollyannish, is I don't think Donald Trump can get a fair trial in New York or D.C. or Fulton County, Georgia.
I don't even know if he can get a fair trial in any part of the country at this point for crying out loud.
But I mean, you got a guy that is clearly on a mission for personal revenge as Mike Johnson, the Speaker of the House, was in the courtroom today.
But, you know, here's a guy convicted of lying.
And, well, are you telling the truth now?
Or are you telling the truth?
Were you telling the truth then?
How does the jury take anything that this guy says, you know, as gospel truth?
You just can't.
And that's the problem.
The problem is with the law.
The problem is with the star witness.
I mean, Michael Cohn admits that he lied on paperwork for Stormy Daniels.
You know, he admitted that he lied on paperwork filing out of the form describing the first Republic Bank account he opened for the payments that he made to Stormy Daniels.
He made the payments, which, by the way, he's a lawyer.
There's nothing illegal about an NDA, but lying about stuff like that.
Yeah, that's a problem.
I'm not sure if they would have opened it if it stated pay off an adult film star for a non-disclosure agreement.
I realized during the process, I couldn't realize why, you know, it's called resolution consultants.
Anyway, it's perfectly legal to be involved in an NDA.
You know, I don't know what else to say.
The Iowa Attorney General actually had interesting comments.
Let the American people decide who the leader of the free world will be.
And politics like this has no place in the courtroom.
Our friend Leo 2.0 Terrell, you know, has been pretty amazing.
This is not a single shred of evidence that President Trump participated in a crime, falsified records, or to hide campaign state or federal laws.
Whoopsie-daisy.
Anyway, as you look at all of this, you know, Cohn says he was, you know, knee-deep in the cult of Donald Trump in 2015 under questioning from Blanche.
Okay, I guess I was hypnotized, and that caused me to act that way.
You know, Trump attorney Todd Blanche trying to establish Cohn as very wealthy well before he entered Trump's orbit.
He admits his first exhibit, exhibit the t-shirt, Cohen is selling, apparently, depicting Trump behind bars.
Blanche pins Cohn on whether he wants to see Trump convicted.
His answer, yes, probably.
I'd like to see accountability said.
It's not for me.
It's for the jury in this case.
I'm asking you just to say yes or no.
Do you want to see Trump convicted?
Sure.
I mean, he's a real lovable figure, isn't he?
Real credible figure.
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It's an amazing, eclectic group of people, even on the left, that just see this for what it is.
It really is.
Michael Smurkonish, a person four or five weeks into a trial ought to be told exactly what they're being prosecuted for, and that just hasn't happened.
And all those who are on radio and television, like myself, act as if, you know, If it is the case, that we all know that Trump's been put on notice, but it really isn't true.
I mean, you need an intent to prove a crime.
What is the crime that they're even alleging?
They have not and cannot tell us what that is.
I mean, but yet you have to have intent.
Just look at the law we're talking about.
17, 152.
All right.
Well, that'd be falsification of business records in New York.
That'd be a misdemeanor.
Well, the statute of limitations have run up.
But of course, the Biden donor judge with a family that appears to have conflicts, you know, allows all of it in.
He was selected.
He wasn't randomly chosen.
How convenient.
Her third highest-ranking DOJ official and Biden's the weaponized justice department running this.
But you'd have to show intent to commit a campaign finance violation.
That has never been proven.
Case closed, not guilty.
But don't expect it in New York.
I don't trust it.
Randy, you're a fine girl.
What a great wife you'd be.
But it's my life, my love, and my lady is the sea.
That's cold, Linda.
That is cold-hearted, man.
Oh, you agree?
Love is love, and what is it?
There's a thin line between love and hate.
So, you know.
Well, wait a minute.
People have been a fine girl.
What a good wife you would be.
But my life, my love, and my lady is the sea.
I'd rather hang out with the fishes.
I think he's talking about the sea he found in the bottom of the bottle.
No, he's talking about, no, no, no.
Listen, I sang that song for many years, and we contemplated for a very long time what it meant.
I bet everybody loved when you play that song.
It's a very cool.
Everybody loves that song.
They love that song, and they love that song from what's that movie with Vince Vaughan.
Vince Vaughan, which one?
Jon Favreau.
Pick up the pieces.
Do you remember that song back in the day?
How's it going?
Sing it.
It's an instrumental.
There's no words.
As long as it's not, as long as it's not, in all the years I attended bar at weddings, I worked at a wedding factory for a while.
Five weddings a weekend.
Friday night, two Saturday, two Sunday.
And it was celebrate.
There was celebrate.
There was Last Dance.
I never hated a song so much.
Last dance, I can handle it.
Dancing Queen, Kill Me.
Well, Lance Dance was great because that meant the night was coming to a close.
And that was Donna Summer's.
Because it's the longest song.
It's so long.
She had a beautiful voice.
You know how she knew she was a good singer?
There's a great story behind Donna Summer.
What is it?
Is she knew because all she knew is she was singing in church, and she would look out in the crowd, and she didn't understand why everybody was crying.
How cool a story is that?
I remember reading that.
I could go both ways, though, Sean.
I don't know.
If I look out and everybody's crying, I'd be like, oh, my God, how bad is it?
She's a little.
No, it was crying because it was, I mean, this, I mean, she was such a good singer.
She was.
Her voice was ridiculous.
Her, Whitney Houston, ridiculous.
Ridiculous.
Some people were just insane.
I don't have that gift, as you know.
Well, I mean, the dooda you just did were very impressive.
Well done.
Brandy, you're a fine girl.
What a good wife you'd be.
But my life, my love, and my lady is the sea.
Ouch.
I'd rather swim with the fishes and deal with 50-foot swells like my buddies over that work on Deadliest Catch.
All right, we got more information.
Cohn is now saying They have a short break going on, but he says his primary residence is still in a Trump building.
You got to admit, that's a little ironic and funny.
The lawyer grueled Cohen about his un and they're going into his comments, vicious, vile postings, rantings, and ravings because he's been told ahead of time and trained, no matter what you do, just act nice before the jury.
Then you get to see the real Michael Cohn when he's doing his TikTok, you know, Trump in jail t-shirts that he's wearing and mugs that he's selling.
I'd like to see Trump.
You know, he said, would you like to see Trump?
Sure.
Okay.
Would you like to see him convicted?
Yes, sure.
I mean, it's just he's so cocky.
It's unreal.
But anyway, at times, the questions from Blanche, anyway, for example, he asked Cohen if Anthony Scaramucci visited him in prison, and he did.
I think that's Scaramucci just being a nice guy, if you want to know the truth.
But if the defense was preparing to call a roster of witnesses, one might speculate he was setting up a question for later in the trial.
But Blanche had already said that the said it's possible the defense won't call any witnesses.
Get this thing over.
But, you know, then the issue of whether or not he lied during the Mueller probe came up and whether or not he lied to them about the Trump proposal to build a Trump-branded skyscraper in Moscow.
Cohen said, yes, the information I gave was not accurate.
Trump's attorney says, was it a lie?
I don't know if I'd characterize it as a lie.
It was inaccurate.
Was it a lie?
It wasn't a lie.
It wasn't truthful.
If you want to call it a lie, we can call it a lie.
I believe the information I gave them is inaccurate.
But you are not testifying it's a lie?
Sure, I'll say it's a lie.
Now, if you're on a jury and you got somebody acting like that, which I think is kind of jackass-ass-ish, don't you think that's kind of jackass-ish, Linda?
I mean, that's his default.
I mean, that's what he's there for.
Now, remember, he's in court, disbarred lawyer, released from prison, multi-year sentences for tax evasion, bank fraud, convicted of lying to Congress, lying under oath, and now facing even more allegations of lying to Congress as the recent referral by Jordan and Comer.
But anyway, at one point he says after he gave his testimony, he wasn't able to talk to Trump anymore.
Then the issue of lying came up again.
He is resistant to being called a liar.
If you want to call it a lie, you can.
He said after first saying the information he gave to the special counsel's office about the Trump Moscow project was inaccurate.
I mean, he lied to the special counsel.
I mean, why would anybody on this jury take one after this point, just based on this cross?
Why would you take a single word that this man has to say with any degree of seriousness?
Let me go through this again because I think this is very, very, you know, telling.
So Trump's attorney is trying to get him to admit under oath that he lied during conversations involving Robert Mueller's probe of Trump and his links to Russia and Blanche pressing Cohn to say that he lied to them about the Trump organization's proposal to build a Trump-branded skyscraper in Moscow.
Cohn replied, yes, the information I gave was not accurate.
Trump's liar said, Trump's lawyer says, was it a lie?
Well, I don't know if I would characterize it as a lie.
It was inaccurate.
Okay.
Was it a lie?
It wasn't a lie.
It wasn't truthful.
If you want me to call it a lie, we can call it a lie.
I believe the information I gave them is inaccurate.
So you're not testifying it's a lie.
Sure, I'll say it's a lie.
I mean, just imagine if you're a witness.
I mean, if you're on the jury and the witness is acting this way, I mean, I'm sure there's going to be a lot of, well, he didn't put a dent in Michael Cohn because Michael Cohn's been prepped over and over again not to get angry, not to get mad, not to get angry, not to get mad, not to get rattled.
But I mean, we learned that with the Stormy Daniels testimony that they spent all this time prepping.
Okay, if you're spending time prepping, who was prepping you?
I'd like to know an answer to that question.
Was it the prosecution prepping you?
Were they coaching you?
Were they giving you answers as part of the coaching?
And it's pretty unbelievable to me.
So the question is: if this case hinges on this, now here's the downside: we're in New York.
This case is in New York right now.
I'm not in New York.
I'm in Florida.
But this case is being tried in New York City.
Nine out of ten people, registered Democrats, a jury pool that hates Donald Trump.
And I just do not have confidence he can get a fair trial.
And during jury selection, you know, what do you really know about what people are really thinking?
Sometimes you find out after cases, oh, that person really didn't like the person that they were involved in the case with.
Anyway, so you know, the bottom line is that you got a guy that has been profiting off of Donald Trump, wanting him convicted on TikTok, asking for gifts all over TV.
Couldn't remember whether or not, in fact, the DA said not to go on TV.
I don't know.
I don't remember.
I'm not sure I believe that either.
I don't believe a word that comes out of this guy's mouth.
And I don't think anybody on that jury is going to believe it.
However, you know, then the question that has not been brought up before the jury is the issue of the law.
All of the tawdry, salacious, sensational, irrelevant, immaterial information from Stormy Daniels, et cetera, and David Pecker.
I mean, what did this have to do with the fundamental basics of the law in this case?
Because the law actually should matter.
The law should be relevant in this case.
And the law is very, very clear.
Jonathan Turley put it well.
He said, I can't imagine any competent lawyer would not truly be embarrassed by what happened in the courtroom with Cohn.
You know, this should go down as a day of infamy for the New York legal system.
Alan Dershowitz made similar comments about this.
Watching this unfold in the courtroom as a lawyer is deeply disturbing.
They keep on referring to these documents.
These documents don't move the ball.
The documents show an NDA and a payment that's not in dispute that are not unlawful.
It's not unlawful as a federal campaign contribution.
Or Andy McCarthy saying Bregg knows what he's doing is improper, completely political in this case.
And he said, well, maybe Merchant Murshawn is having second thoughts.
They haven't come close to proving that fraud took place.
And they don't have to prove that fraud has taken place.
They just have to prove that it was fraud that included a specific intent to commit another crime, which we believe is a federal campaign finance crime, but nobody knows for sure.
There's not a scintilla of evidence that Trump was ever thinking about federal campaign law.
And as somebody that has known Donald Trump for a long time, during this time, I could tell you, I doubt he had any knowledge at all whatsoever about any of it.
Anyway, so we'll see how this all turns out, Niam.
But that's the news from Lake Wobegon.
Yes, what would you like to add?
I would like to add one thing, and I don't think it can be said enough.
If you look at Donald Trump as a member of the community, specifically in New York, New York City, New York State, but New York City, right?
And this is a guy who doesn't drink, doesn't smoke.
You may not like the way he talks.
You may not like his personal life and some choices.
You may not like his tweeting.
I love his tweeting personally, but that's just me.
But putting all that to the side, all these little things that he does, never been convicted of a crime, never had any problems.
And then in the last year, we got 91 indictments.
No convictions, no evidence.
Empty indictments when we look at the cases of Alvin Bragg 34 times over.
They all say the same thing.
But the problem is when you talk to Democrats and liberals and you just even begin to have the conversation about Trump, they're like, oh, my God, he's a convict.
He's not a convict.
They're trying to create a persona of him being a convict.
There's far more evidence against, like, I don't know, anybody else than against him.
Because when you get into the weeds, that's where you really get the answers.
But the thing is, they just want to tie him up.
They want to keep him out of the public eye.
What they're not realizing is, you know, Wobble New Jersey is a perfect example of just a very small sample of what the rest of the world is feeling.
And it is the world.
It's not the country.
It's the world.
Everybody is looking at it.
Everything.
And this is where I got to go to the polls because now the polls actually are impactful here and polls matter.
And when you look at these numbers, they are staggering.
You have Nevada, 12-point Donald Trump lead.
He didn't win Nevada 2016 or 2020.
He didn't win it.
Arizona, seven-point lead.
Georgia, he's now up by 10.
Michigan, seven-point Trump lead.
Pennsylvania, three-point Trump lead.
This is, you know, obviously something has happened here.
I say defy conventional political gravity.
Okay, that's my way.
It's going to be interesting how this all plays out.
I love all the details, all of this.
You know, there was a CNN analyst that actually said this on top of Fareed Zakaria rightly saying nobody without the name Trump would ever be tried, but ever been charged with this.
And by the way, a city that doesn't even charge people on tape beating the living Adam Schiff out of cops.
I almost said it, by the way.
Whoops.
Did you hear me?
I'm like, oh.
That almost came out.
Anyway, but that happens.
How sick is that?
I've never seen a witness who's lied to Congress, lied to court, lied to the IRS, lied to the Southern District of New York, and this now we know lied to by his own admission, finally, Robert Mueller, lied to his banker.
The entire prosecution witness team has been lied to by Michael Cohn.
You'd never see anything like this.
And it's happening.
It's pretty unbelievable.
What has happened to our country?
Let me tell you something.
Every law has its foundation, its roots on a document that we were brought up to revere.
That document is called our Constitution.
Every law comes down to that document.
That's why courts determine co-equal branches of government, three branches of government.
A judicial branch determines that it's constitutional.
And then you have people that are abusing their power and they weaponize our system of justice where we don't have equal application, equal justice under the law.
You want to talk about a case that would be applicable in terms of what their intent is and as it relates to breaking the law.
And in other words, the falsification of business records?
Well, remember Hillary Clinton?
It was a business expense.
Remember, a legal expense.
Did she falsify that when she funneled money to Perkins Cooley, a law firm, that then gave money and hired Fusion GPS, an op research firm, that then hired Christopher Steele to put together the lying Russian disinformation dossier?
Was that a legal fee?
Did they falsify their business records?
Why isn't Hillary Clinton in trouble?
Same timeframe, because Hillary Clinton's a Democrat.
Hillary Clinton's not a Republican.
Hillary Clinton's protected by the system.
Donald Trump is persecuted by the system.
Don't expect justice in New York.
I'm telling you, to expect the worst in spite of no evidence of any crime.
That is a sad day for our country, our Constitution, the rule of law, equal justice under the law, equal application of our laws.
And that basically, you might as well take your Constitution and put it in a shredder.
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