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Hamas Taking Our Colleges - May 2nd, Hour 3
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You know, all these kids, you know, one thing you gotta keep in mind.
This is not entire campuses.
Uh I know many, many students that are ghast uh at what is happening on on their college campus.
Uh and and they're they're shocked, they're horrified.
We had a we had a young woman last night that was where was this?
I think it was in New York.
I think it was at Columbia or maybe Fordham.
I may I'm I forget where.
And one of the Fox reporters, uh Alexis, uh, who was doing a great job for us uh at the Fox News Channel.
She actually had an opportunity to interview a young woman who is Jewish, and she had the Israeli flag with her, and she had other students with her.
That and and meanwhile, they are surrounded by nothing but pure unadulterated hatred.
And uh, you know, she was kind of petite, and all I can think of, please God, make sure this girl is going to be safe.
I said that on the one hand, and on the other hand, I'm like, wow, good for her.
Uh she's standing up to this hatred.
She's confronting it head on.
She's putting herself in harm's way doing this, and I just had nothing but great admiration for her, and in my head, I was like praying that she says that she's safe in all of this.
Uh, what is life like for the kids on these campuses?
Now there is a group called campus reform.
Uh David Fuentes is a part of it.
He joins us now.
He is a correspondent and senior at the University of Southern California, USC.
Uh Emily Sturge is with us, campus reform correspondent and student at the University of Florida.
Uh Michael Duke is with campus reform.
He's a also a correspondent, and he is a student at Fordham University.
And anyway, they're here to talk about what life is like on their campuses.
They've all they've all been experiencing this over the last number of weeks.
Uh Emily, let's uh start with you.
The one good part about being in Florida is that Florida's not putting up with this crap, and whenever it pops its head up, it is it is stymied immediately, thankfully, uh, because of the leadership I would argue starting at the top with Governor DeSantis.
Absolutely.
Thank you so much for having me on the show.
Earlier this week, campus reform reported that nine anti-Israel protesters were arrested at the University of Florida, my school, after a week-long protest.
Now, the University of Florida set a clear example of how university should be responding to this type of violence and intimidation happening on campuses.
Anti-Israel agitators took over the center of our campus for many days, right in front of one of our main libraries, of course, during finals week, and protesters were shouting and causing massive disruptions for students like me, who were just trying to make it to our exams on time, and we're just trying to get studying and we're being inconvenienced by these protesters.
The arrest of these protesters sent a clear message that this type of behavior is not tolerated on our campus.
It's not tolerated in Florida.
Florida is a law in order state and a university of Florida is upholding that standard.
So I'm really proud of my university for prioritizing the safety of its students and arresting these protesters.
Alright, let's get your take.
Michael Duke, uh, from Fordham, we've seen a lot of hostility on your campus.
I'm sure you're not liking any of it.
Yes.
Well, thank you for having me, Sean.
It means a lot.
I think the video speaks to themselves.
I mean, I've been on the ground in New York City.
I've been reporting for the leadership institute's campus reform on violence, the anti Semitism, everything in between that these pro Hamas protesters have been pushing.
And at the end of the day, what we're really seeing is radical indoctrination because you have students who are conforming to recent trends because they're cheap.
They've had college professors and administrators telling them specifically what to think as opposed to what higher education is supposed to do.
Higher education, it's supposed to encourage students to prepare for their futures.
Think how or how to think critically and promote a diversity of thought.
But instead, as I reported on in New York, just at Fordham yesterday, students they're just being radicalized to the point where they're just conformists at this point.
Uh at Columbia.
I was denied entry into the Gaussian Solidarity Encampment because I was reporting the facts for what they are.
And the groups don't like that.
Uh and even yesterday at Fordham as well, I saw many of my peers yelling phrases at the NYPD, such as NYPD KKK, just because they're part of this mob mentality that we're seeing.
And uh even like it was Alexis McAdams who was referring to earlier.
Um and and she's experiencing the same thing.
I mean, at a lot of these campuses, is if you're Jewish, they're telling you not to show up to school.
I mean, w uh is this, you know, Nazi Germany or the lead up to Nazi Germany?
Is are we living back in the nineteen thirties now? 'Cause that's what it's beginning to feel like.
Yeah, I you know, it's a very scary time for me, my friends, my Jewish friends especially, because they are scared.
And even at the new school, just last week, last Thursday, I was recording the encampment from outside on a public sidewalk, and a group surrounded me, they started yelling chants at me and almost forced me into the street with oncoming traffic.
Thank God the light changed and the traffic stopped, but I could have seriously been hurt just because I was doing my job.
And at the end of the day, it really just falls onto the shoulders of administrators who either choose not to act or don't know how to act.
They are the ones who are refusing to keep our campuses safe and secure, so students like me can go about their daily lives without the fear of just living.
Yeah, it's really scary.
It's uh such a scary time for kids.
I'm so grateful my kids are just getting out.
Uh um, I really am.
Uh I can't that the stuff that they have told me.
I pr I purposely keep my kids off.
I don't talk about them a lot on on on radio or TV.
Uh they're independent people, they live their own lives.
And I just uh I just never wanted to drag them into my political world.
They don't want they don't want any part of it, and I don't really blame them.
Uh David Fuentes, you're at USC in uh Southern California.
Uh your rival school, UCLA, both schools have had uh a lot of activity, especially uh last night at UCLA and into the early morning uh this morning.
Uh let's get your reaction.
What's going on out there?
Yeah, thanks again for having me, Sean.
It's uh pleasure to be speaking with you and everyone else.
Um yeah, it's been really scary here at USC.
Um not sure if you saw the commission ceremony was just canceled just due to how horrible uh all the protesters and encampments have been.
I'm disgusted that we're not gonna have a university wide graduation.
The purchasers have just essentially ruined this opportunity for the rest of us because they care more about their hateful activism than coming together as a community.
Like I'm not even able to take graduation pictures in front of our iconic Tommy Trojan statue because protesters have vandalized statue with free Palestine writing.
And you know, we saw at UCLA earlier, it's just it's almost turned into a lawless society.
We see these people just setting up these illegal encampments, uh taking uh objects from university, breaking into university uh property, and uh it's just caused mass chaos and in it's truly gotten to a point where it's it's uh it's very scary and almost uh again lawless.
Yeah, I mean, when you saw the violence unfolding late uh late last night, uh, your time and into the early morning Eastern time.
What were your what was your reaction to that?
I mean, it it was it was it was horrifying, you know, that this has gone to this point where y you know, the these protests are attacking attacking counter protesters and that you know the university isn't enforcing its policies.
Uh it's gone to that point where they've basically allowed the protesters to dictate the situation and um you know I'm happy that they're you know at least finally trying to fix all this, but I think it's come way too late, and uh it's as a result we saw what happened last night.
That's that's what happens when these universities just let these protesters dictate the narrative of what happened on their campus.
Yeah, Emily, let me ask you, at any point have you felt genuine fear in either what you're seeing or hearing or watching.
Hearing the experiences that Jewish students have had on college campuses around this country is absolutely devastating.
It's sickening to see college students my age across America that are so out of touch with reality that they are actually celebrating and rationalizing Hamas kidnapping children, raping women and killing civilians.
So yes, there are students like me on university campuses across this country who feel so uncomfortable going to their classes because they are faced with these protesters who are shouting at them, uh yelling at them, and in some case even barricading buildings.
This week campus reform reported that at UCLA, um the Los Angeles police actually arrested over one hundred of the protesters because they held a Jewish student hostage, they had been blocking campus building and campus buildings, and they had been denying Jewish students entry.
So these are things that should not be happening on university campuses.
It's thickening to see this chaos happening.
But guess what?
That's what the left celebrates.
That's how the left is pushing the left is pushing this radicalism on this impressionable group of people because that's how they're indoctrinating the next generation of voters.
So I hope to see university administration stand up um as my university did and put a stop to this radical behavior.
All right, quick break right back, we'll continue.
Uh we have three members of the campus reform group.
Uh they're all correspondents and seniors.
One is a senior at the University of Southern California.
Uh Emily uh Sturge is at the University of Florida, Michael Duke, uh also at Fordham University in New York and the Bronx.
Emily Sturge and Michael Duke.
They're all with the group campus reform.
Uh there are actually sensible common sense uh kids that are on our college campuses, but we never really hear their voices and we're trying to give them some time on the air today to react to all that's happening.
You know, I recently I'll ask you this, Michael Duke.
Uh I've recently had an opportunity to meet a college president.
Uh it was just a chance meeting.
I didn't know this person ahead of time.
It's a well known university.
Um it is a huge sports school and with a huge student population.
And he told me what what his job was, and I said, Okay, how are you dealing with this?
He goes, uh we don't have any problems on our campus, and we're not going to because I will not allow it.
Uh why aren't these why aren't these presidents of these educational institutions, why aren't they more bold?
Well, I think it's a thing.
You love to look at what's happening in your neighbor's yard, but you never think it can happen in your own.
That happened at Fordham yep right yesterday.
Uh you've been seeing in New York especially with all these schools that are incredibly close to Fordham's campus by less than forty minutes, some of them by train.
You're seeing all these demonstrations happen and occur, violence happen, anti-Semitism, anything you can name.
And you would think that at Fordham especially, they'd be well accrued well equipped to prepare themselves for the eventuality of something like the encampment that happened in the lobby, the Lincoln Center campus yesterday.
You'd think that they'd be able to, you know, tackle it when it happens, but they didn't.
They didn't do it immediately.
They eventually did take care of it, but it was only hours later, and it's testament to the fact that I think administrators and professors at universities, they don't think it's gonna happen on their campus until it happens, but also they don't want to, because it's a PR nightmare for them, and they don't even want to think of that eventuality.
Yeah.
I I I really I've I've just got to imagine.
I wonder what parents think.
They're paying, you know, a fortune for their kids' Education and and this is the environment now the kids are living in, or they're being told to go home because you're Jewish.
That's not the America that I love and the America I believe in.
That that that sounds to me like you know the most discriminatory practices ever.
Uh David, you go to USC.
Are there a lot of are there a lot of rules on the college campus as it relates to uh hate language, or what if you use the wrong pronoun, or you know, God forbid you you know, uh whatever.
I mean, you you you say something against the LGBTQ community.
You know what I mean?
Yeah, I mean, there's a lot of rules like that.
Like, for example, a lot of professors require us to say our pronouns or you know what we want to go by at the beginning of class, uh, yet they're completely fine with things like hateful things uh thrown at Jewish students.
Uh just for example, a couple days ago we had a swastika painted on one of our uh university properties by one of the protesters.
So I it's kind of appalling that you know, they they didn't make a big deal of that.
I sure are president issued a statement saying that shouldn't support that, but yet they're gonna make such a fuss about pronouns and you know, properly calling someone by their gender and everything like that, but they don't uh condemn things that are truly anti Semitic and just hate crimes in general.
Yeah, it really is.
I mean, Emily, have you heard examples of kids maybe getting suspended or expelled because of uh something they might have said using the wrong pronoun, attacking a specific group uh in the past.
Have you read about that maybe in your college paper?
Uh, campus reform, we've reported specific instances of students using words such as biological women uh women and actually receiving um grade reduction.
Michael, let me ask you the same question.
Sure.
I mean, I think every day it's something that's always in college students' heads about you know, if I say one thing, how can it affect me the next day?
How can it affect my grade even?
That's something that the Leadership Institute campus reform has reported well on, and will continue to because it's something that you're seeing university administrators and professors continue to push because there's no diversity of thought, there's no marketplace of ideas.
That college is dead.
You're now looking at an America where colleges are group think.
It's just that simple.
Yeah, it really is.
Well, look, I gotta applaud all three of you.
I mean, in many ways, you're standing apart, you're standing for your values.
Um, sure you've all taken heat for it at different times, and uh this is the most insane uh thing that I've ever witnessed in my life.
Uh we have uh twelve hundred Israelis that were slaughtered and they were murdered brutally, burned to death.
Uh they were raped, they were they were beheaded, many of them, even babies were beheaded, hundreds taken hostage.
And this is all because of radical Islamic terrorists that literally attacked Israel.
And we have a president now that has no moral clarity and is pressuring Israel to surrender in their war on terrorism, rather than just saying you have every right to defend yourself and you have every right to win that war and taking a stand as the leader of the free world.
Joe Biden has done done just the opposite.
David Fuentes, Emily Sturge, Michael Duke, uh, thank you all for being with us.
You are future leaders, uh, and I think you do your generation proud.
Thank you all.
I 25 to the top of the hour, 800, 941 Sean, if you want to be a part of the program.
Listen to Byron Donald's, uh, the congressman from Florida, a friend of ours, uh, friend of the show, friend of TV, and uh just listen, listen to what he has to say here.
This is this is the world we're living in with the crazy insane left.
How much is they saying you bastard?
How much is it that saying you erased traitor?
Race traitor, yeah.
So, I think it's supporting a Jewish supremacist country.
Outside the agitators aren't allowed, you're working for an informed entity, you bastard.
Get them out of here, yeah.
That guy's really old in the college.
Anyway, you know, why are they race traitor, Uncle Tom?
Wow.
This was a pro-Palestinian protester at George Ud Washington University.
I I mean, it's so repulsive.
Uh I'm just trying to understand, you know, how do people become this this sick and twisted in in their thinking and their logic?
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These are the voters that Joe Biden desperately needs in 186 days.
David in the free state of Florida.
David, how are you?
Glad you called my friend.
What's up?
Uh Balouk Hashem Sean, thank you for having me and the young lady that I spoke to for uh for allowing me to be on your show.
I am a Jewish American citizen in America, of course.
And I have to say something.
I it was during PESSOVA TESSAC last week after Pesha.
You had a guest on your show speaking about the college uh uh students, some of the college students that were protesting that they're kids and they they're ignorant and they don't know.
Well, I have to tell you when I heard that my yamaka almost blew off the top of my head.
I'm like ignorant.
Okay, I could understand being ignorant with history because let's face it, we live in a society where history is being denied, even if you show the facts and you're blue in the face, they don't want to believe it.
But knowing right from wrong, saying death to Israel get to the Jewish people, listen, my people have been through enough, you know, and and saying death to Israel, debt to the Jewish people.
I mean, that's knowing right from wrong.
You don't say that to somebody.
You don't tell you wish death on them.
And most of these people, which makes me laugh, Sean.
They they wear the mask and they say they're wearing the mask because of COVID.
My foot because of COVID.
If you believe that, then you'll believe No, they're wearing the mask to hold to hide their faces.
They're wearing, you know, the the same garb that you see people wearing in uh Gaza and elsewhere.
Uh absolutely.
Well, let me let me let me give you just a few examples, because and you gotta ask yourself a question, and I brought this up yesterday on both radio and TV, and I'll bring it up again, and that is okay, you're st you have the Palestinian people, people in Gaza, for example, or maybe the West Bank, they're surrounded by Muslim-dominated countries, Egypt, Jordan, Saudi Arabia, etc.
And you have to ask, why have these countries been totally completely shut off?
They're do they will not allow a single refugee into their country.
Now that speaks volumes, doesn't it?
Uh, and when you go and you look at what we now learn as indoctrination that young children in Gaza, for example, go through from the earliest ages, cartoons depicting, you know, Quran-based story of Jews being transformed into apes.
You get Hebrew uh uh uh a Hebrew music video glorifying the killing of Israeli Jews circulating on Palestinian social media and a music video, the lyrics posted on the Palestinian YouTube channel.
Uh the footage, you know, from stabbing and car ramming attacks, including lyrics like we will attack you, tear you apart, stab you, and I will cleanse my country of every Jew.
Uh quote children on Hamas TV.
We want to weigh uh jihad and blow up the Jews.
A young boy reciting a song on Hamas TV.
The Jews are barbaric apes and the most evil creatures.
And and I'm barely touching the surface here.
I mean, you got TV puppets encouraging kids to quote liberate Jerusalem.
I mean, well, the problem is now Joe Biden wants to offer a place in this country for these refugees.
How will we ever ascertain or determine if they have been indoctrinated, considering it is basically institutionalized in in places like Gaza?
That is the sad reality.
And once you're indoctrinated into a sick, twisted, ugly ideology and mindset, I don't know how you deprogram people out of that mindset.
Well, realistically, Sean, I go to Israel every year.
Okay.
And if you look at Jordan, Syria, Lebanon, you look at Egypt, you look at all surrounding the Arab State Arab countries around Israel, okay.
And if you look at the none of them want the Palestinian refugees, they what they say, I was just in Israel nine months ago, what they say that this is not our problem.
This and there's a reason for that.
Well, if you're sticking up for them and you and you want them so much, then why is it not your brothers and your sisters?
And and they don't see it that way.
And most of these people, the only thing they know is hate.
And realistically, when you go to Israel, as an Israeli, if you're an Israeli citizen, uh you're gonna be Arab, well, you could be uh a Jew.
You have the same rights.
But there's certain places of Israel that I can't even go to as a Jew, then I'm not welcome like Bethlehem, not normally because it's Palestinian occupied.
I'm not allowed in there.
And unless I sneak in there with a with a tourist group, basically.
You know, so there is a double standard.
And then to see what's going on in America and and the lies and the deceives.
Listen, most of these people they hide their things like you said before, because they don't want nobody to know.
And God forbid that after all this blows over, they got to go to get a job from a Jewish boss and the Jewish boss, hey, weren't you one of the ones that were anti-Semitic and death to my people?
You know, they they're in complete denial.
Complete denial.
And the thing about it is down here in Florida, you know, I don't live in a predominantly Jewish area.
You know, I um I'm probably one of the only Jews in the area that I do live in, but you would figure there would be not not too much anti-Semitism, but there is everywhere you go.
And the one thing that all I can say is this, I'm gonna I I hear everything you're saying.
What we need is are people that have a conscience, a heart, and a soul.
A heart.
People that bel I uh look, I'm a Christian, and I believe that every man, woman, and child was created by one God.
That's what I believe.
Amen.
And I believe in Jesus, the the only son of the father, uh, and I believe in Judeo Christian values.
That's the old and the new testament.
That's what I believe.
And anybody that thinks the way I do, you look at every person as as God's creature.
And it's really not any more complicated than that.
You know, you have all these HR manuals and you've got you know, thousands and thousands of pa pages.
You know, go back to the simple stuff, because that kind of works.
You know, in in the case of the golden rule, uh, all right, maybe you don't want the first part, maybe you're an atheist or agnostic.
Love God with all your heart, mind, body, and soul, and your neighbor as yourself and treat others the way you would like to be treated.
There you go.
You can rip up the the rest of the HR, you know, manuals for the most part, and I think that pretty much covers everything.
You know, we kid around on this show, but I gotta tell you something.
This is like a family, the show.
And everybody, Linda, true or false.
Well you uh I mean, when we we uh we love and we we fight each other like we're brother and sister at times, but I mean, for crying out loud, uh I care about everybody on this show.
Period, end of sentence.
Decisions that I have to make, I that will impact this show.
I think about the people that I work with.
Linda, you're not affirming what I'm saying.
Yes, that's true.
It is true, but you do the same thing.
We all do the same thing here.
And and I care about you know, everybody that you know on my TV show, it's the same thing.
Anyway, I gotta run, man.
I appreciate the call.
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All right, back to our phones.
Let's say hi to John.
He's in North Carolina.
John, how are you?
Doing well, Sean.
How about you?
My heart's troubled.
I don't like the state of the world right now.
I don't like the state of our country.
I don't like the state of the world.
I don't like what's happening on college campuses.
I'm not liking a lot of stuff right now.
Well, you're not gonna like what I have to say then, because I think that part of this is just a big diversion from what else is going on in the United States.
Right now, we are in a full-time jobs recession.
There are 1.4 million fewer people with full-time jobs right now than there were during March of 2023.
Actually, it's 1.7 if we're going to be precise, but you are correct.
And there are 1.99 million more people working part-time jobs, and that's a record level.
And I'll add to that statistic, most of those part-time jobs have been going to quote migrants or illegal immigrants would be the term I use.
Yeah.
And the other thing is that something that has escaped attention for almost two years is that there's a wonky little thing called the two-year bond, ten year bond rate inversion.
And normally this happens right before a recession.
Well, we had a rate inversion that started the first week of July of 2022.
This is the longest period of time that we've had a rate inversion like this since the 1980s.
It's almost a guaranteed indicator, you're right, of what's to come.
You're a hundred percent right.
That does not happen, and it's not good when it does happen.
And if you combine the two together, if you combine having less full-time jobs than we did a year ago, and this rate inversion, it's more or less not a matter of if we're going to go into a recession, it's when, and it's not even a matter of when, because I think we're already there because of the jobs numbers.
It's a matter of when will the Fed catch up with it.
Well, that's that's uh I I think we're headed for much tougher economic times, and I'm not the only one that shares that belief.
Uh, when you have people, and he's not a he's not a conservative, he's not a Republican, people like Jamie Dimon uh making pretty much the same prediction you're making and I'm making, um, you better start paying attention.
I've talked to some very smart people that I I've gotten to know on the economy, and they're all saying the same thing.
They see this as the middle of stagflation and the economy is in a massive decline, and the Fed has lost control of it.
That's why the expected interest rate cuts are not going to happen this year.
If one would happen, the earliest it could happen is September will have no impact on the uh political race, which is 186 days away.
Anyway, good call, very informative.
Thank you.
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Uh Pat in South Carolina next, Sean Hannity show.
Good afternoon, Sean.
Thank you for taking my call.
My comment is that I think if Times Square would run the videos that uh Benjamin Netanyahu has, that probably, in my opinion, which I I've seen them.
You're talking about the 49 minute tape.
Yes.
Yes.
Of the attract I I if if I told you how hard I have pushed and pushed and pushed for permission to air that tape you probably wouldn't believe me.
I believe that politically anybody that has any conscience, any soul or heart would be moved to understand the pure depravity and the the utter evil that was October the seventh.
And they were bragging about it as they're beheading people, murdering people, burning people alive, raping innocent women.
Yeah, it's all on tape.
All of it.
It's sort of like you know we didn't the Nazis they they hid most of their atrocities.
And then it wasn't until later that we fully understood the magnitude of what happened in the Holocaust.
And and yet these Hamas terrorists were proud of their murdering their raping their beheadings uh their burning people to death and they chronicled it themselves and the IDF has that tape and they have shown it to certain members of the media and and other people as well but they won't allow it to be aired publicly and and maybe it's out of respect for the families I I assume that's probably the biggest reason.
And but you can pixel out people's faces and hide their identity and still see and hear the magnitude of what what has been recorded.
And and people need to understand the ignorance that's on the campuses to your caller two three callers ago um the English man in Florida this this shows how ignorant these riers are in this country and how much they're they're just getting away with all this rather than knowing the facts.
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