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	We we have talked a lot about the weaponization of the Department of Justice under Joe Biden.
	You know, interesting questions have been raised by a lot of the Supreme Court justices, especially when you look at last week and the arguments over the issue of immunity.
	I think if Democrats had their way for the next hundred and eighty-nine days, Donald Trump would be in a courtroom and not have any ability at all to go out and campaign.
	Although interestingly, his poll numbers keep going up.
	So maybe maybe they're they're helping him in the end.
	And then we have Uncle Joe, crazy, your crazy Uncle Joe, out there talking about uh Uncle Bosey who was eaten by cannibals uh and making one, you know, s verbal screw up after another.
	Um, but interesting legal points that have been raised by Supreme Court justices in a lot of these cases.
	For example, Clarence Thomas has asked the former president's law the president Donald Trump's lawyers about whether they challenged special counsel Jack Smith and his authority to even bring charges against the president, which by the way, you know, did you in in this litigation challenge the appointment of the special counsel?
	Now this raises a lot of really really interesting points.
	Smith was never nominated by the president, confirmed by the Senate at any time, uh, which Trump's lawyer did point out in the answer here.
	Uh then you have Justice Kavanaugh as we have this weaponization going on and the issue of in this case it would impact the January 6th case more than any other, but Kavanaugh warning of of a vicious cycle of malicious prosecutions uh that could end the presidency.
	That's how dangerous that is.
	Uh Neil Gorsuch saying it it didn't matter what the president is what his motives were.
	That's something courts shouldn't be engaged in.
	I'm concerned about the future uses of criminal law to target political opponents based on accusations about their motives.
	Anyway, here to help sort it out is Pam Bondy, former Florida Attorney General.
	Horace Cooper is with us, legal commentator, co-chair of the Black Leadership Network, Project 21.
	Author of Put Y'all Back in Chains, How Biden's po uh policies harm uh black Americans.
	Uh welcome both of you.
	Uh Pam, I I I found these arguments very, very interesting, but I think at the end of the day, what everybody's missing is it's never it's unprecedented that we have a presidential candidate sitting in a courtroom being told he'll be put in jail if he's not there every day.
	And and meanwhile, the field for campaigning is left to uh one the incumbent president because of his Justice Department's actions in part.
	Yes, Sean, that's exactly right.
	There is no semblance of law in our criminal and civil justice system right now.
	I truly feel that way.
	Watching this unfold every single day.
	I mean, telling him he can't even break to go to his son's graduation, having him sit in court every day.
	He wasn't he was the plaintiff in front of the U.S. Supreme Court, Sean, yet he was unable.
	the judge would not break given the respect to the u_s_ supreme court to yet that much donald trump be sitting in front of the supreme court when it's immunity arguments were heard So I mean, he's this judge should be off the case.
	You've discussed that many times because of his impact on the the Biden influence, his daughter's influence with Joe Biden.
	I mean, this is a Biden judge, a Biden prosecutor.
	Um any other judge would have recused himself by now, but making him sit there every single day, I think that is the ultimate election interference.
	All right.
	So I mean, uh of course it's a means of election interference.
	Now, uh, as as you heard the oral arguments being made last week, what was your take on the questioning by the justices?
	Oh, well, oh, I thought the questioning was great by the justices, especially the the ones that you just mentioned.
	I mean, without immunity in this country, Sean, all presidents would be hamstrung with criminal issues, their entire presidency.
	Official acts have got to be prosecuted.
	I mean, protected.
	They've got to be protected.
	Otherwise, we'd have an endless cycle of former presidents being prosecuted, and you know what?
	You can Go all the way back to Abe Lincoln.
	Look what have happened.
	Look what would have happened with Abraham Lincoln.
	I mean, every single president throughout history.
	These processes are in place for a reason.
	So a president can do his job and function every day.
	Otherwise, it would be pure chaos in our society.
	Complete chaos in our society if that was not protected.
	So where do you see this going?
	I mean, the president could potentially now go from New York to D.C., uh from D.C. to Fulton County, Georgia, from Fulton County, Georgia to Florida, what, in a hundred and eighty-nine days till election day and not have any ability to campaign?
	Are they going to now stop Donald Trump from having a Republican National Convention?
	Uh if there was a debate date, is a judge going to let him debate?
	I mean, how does how does somebody campaign like this?
	How do you run an election like this?
	You can't, and they know that, and that's what this is about.
	It's a concerted effort with all the jurisdictions that you just mentioned.
	I'm my most my guess, Sean, I mean, my my best guess on what the U.S. Supreme Court is going to do is I think they're they're going to find there is immunity, but they're going to remand it back to the lower courts for hearings, and then that will push these cases past the election, which is, I think, you know, they could also find there's complete immunity case dismissed.
	But but given the questions, that's that's my best guess, you know, that we have to have five justices who are going to follow the law that that's what's going to happen.
	So I think the case they have going right now in New York is their only shot at getting him.
	And they want to take him into custody.
	I firmly believe that more than anything in the world, they want to take him in custody.
	And if he's So you do you think they would take a former president on a eight-year-old case where it was a misdemeanor, which, you know, I think it's going to be very hard to explain that to a jury.
	Well, let me bring in Horace Cooper.
	Do you think that do you agree with Pam that they would love to put Donald Trump in jail over this case if there was a guilty verdict, which I would argue is probably likely considering the venue is is not Trump friendly, conservative friendly, or Republican-friendly.
	Of all the cases pending before the president, uh this one presents the absolute best opportunity.
	By that I mean a selected judge to handle the case, Mr. Merchant, instead of one randomly selected.
	Appellate court judges that appear to be predisposed to be hostile uh to the president uh as a defendant.
	Uh so much of the constitutional regime that exists in the care area of criminal law is actually not in favor of supporting and promoting the interests of the prosecutors, but in fact the interest of the defendants.
	We are not seeing that.
	And so, as I say, if you look at the Fulton County case, while you do have a radical progressive sororos-funded prosecutor, what you don't have is a similar person sitting in the bench, and you certainly don't have in the appellate courts a posture of that nature.
	And that means that it's very, very difficult for a case that really ought never to have been brought forward to survive just during the trial process.
	But Judge Merchant has a problem, and I don't know how many people have been paying attention.
	He keeps telling us that he is going to issue a sanction for the president's uh uh failure to follow with his court order.
	But normally a sanction would be a fine, right?
	Is the is the is the judge in this case gonna say, no, I'm gonna put you in a jail cell?
	And then by the way, how do we deal with that problem, which has never been faced before?
	Uh you're gonna put a president in jail, and the president has full-time secret service protection in jail.
	Well, this is the problem.
	There's a 1947 case called Craig V. Hardy.
	I don't want to go too much into the weeds, just getting back to my law school professor days, in which a judge had issued a gag order and sanctioned a journalist for the uh activities that occurred when all the journalists did was speak about First Amendment issues associated with the case.
	The Supreme Court said that it was appropriate to bring that state case into federal court.
	A similar phenomenon might find its way if this judge, Mr. Merchant, is excessive in how he handles enforcement of his gag order.
	If he does it too light, he runs the risk that if it's a thousand dollar fine per event, that the fee is paid and the actions go forward.
	If he does it too hard, he runs the risk that this is ultimately a bill.
	Last point is in the DC circuit court, the mainstream media failed to report that, in fact, the gag order by Judge Chutkin was found in some elements to be unconstitutional and overly broad.
	That's exactly what's going to happen in this case.
	And so Judge Merchant is in a dilemma.
	He promised us a week ago that he was going to issue his ruling.
	He now says he's going to hold another hearing for another set.
	The problem with lawfare is the court system was never designed to be abused where you single out an individual that you target.
	It's supposed to be we observe what crimes are committed, and then we act in response.
	Well, that's the way it should be.
	Pam, what's your reaction to that?
	Yeah, and I think Horace would agree with this in all my years of prosecuting.
	I've never seen a gag order on a defendant like this.
	Gag orders are in place to protect defendants so the defendant can have a fair trial.
	Of course, the prosecution is entitled to a fair trial.
	But the gag orders, it prosecutors are always gagged, not defendants.
	And here they're letting Michael Cohen be out the star witness, the liar, the convicted liar, be out there every single day trashing Donald Trump, yet President Trump cannot defend himself.
	This is absurd.
	And yes, eventually all of this will be overturned.
	All of these orders.
	I have no doubt in my mind, but it's going to be too late.
	And, you know, all they're playing right now is the short game.
	They want to silence him, which they're doing, and they want to throw him in jail.
	I have no doubt in my mind, but all they need, Sean in New York is one honest juror.
	One juror out of twelve that's going to follow the law and say, I will not convict this man because he did not even commit a misdemeanor under the law.
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	All right, we continue with our legal experts.
	Pam Bondy and Horace Cooper are with us.
	As you watch the case, I mean, all they tried to do is put to throw out other issues that Donald Trump wasn't even uh, you know, charged with, Horace.
	And that's that's the irony here.
	You have a judge that donated to Biden uh whose own family may profit and benefit from whatever decision he makes here.
	He absolutely, according to New York law, my interpretation of it anyway, is he should have recused himself.
	Uh Add to that, you know, the fact that the statute of limitations had passed on this.
	This would be a misdemeanor charge.
	Somehow they bring in a federal election law as as a means of justifying the charges, which are to this day not particularly clear to anybody, and they're just throwing out, you know, well, oh, well, well, the catch and kill.
	Uh okay, what does that have to do with a bookkeeping error?
	Why was that even allowed into evidence?
	Why was why was David Pecker even on the stand in that in that sense?
	Uh it's a maxim of our uh criminal justice system that we don't show that a person has once done something we don't like or something we thought was igno innoble, and we use that as a basis of saying that's proof that they did X. That is an automatic reversal.
	What Judge Merchant is apparently thinking he can survive the news that his ruling, like a judge did with Harvin Harvey Feinstein Flanchang, he can survive the news that they allowed evidence in, and it ultimately overturned uh the judgment.
	But as I say, he has this problem, this overly broad gag order.
	How is he going to enforce it?
	Any of the uh casual review will show that this gag order misses the mark dramatically.
	And the Supreme Court has said that the judiciary has no special authority in a democratic government to suppress, edit, or censor behavior reports, or comments about judicial proceedings.
	That's the law.
	And he's gonna have to figure out will he get smacked down or will he try to find a weasel way to do small fines so as not to allow this to get into federal court.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, Pam, last word.
	Yeah, I think Horace is right.
	That's why I think the prosecution is backing off a bit on let's throw him in jail for the gag order.
	Let's just keep fining him because they know how wrong they are.
	If they tried to throw him in jail for the gag order, it would get appealed much faster.
	I think Horace would agree with that.
	All right.
	I appreciate both of you.
	Uh Pam Bondy, thank you.
	Horace Cooper, always great to have you both.
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	Joe Concha on the corruption, the mob, the media, the insanity that is unfolding on college campuses around the country, and of course, the mob, the media, and and their corruption.
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	Uh we have been watching all over the country today, you know, the madness that is college campuses in America today.
	Uh, these protesters removing the American flag, raising the Palestinian flag at Havid in Harvard Yard.
	Uh you have anti-Israel anti-Israel protest reignited outside the Fashion Institute of Technology.
	We've been watching this all weekend long.
	Uh Cal Polytech uh Humboldt closed their campus for the rest of the semester because anti-Israel protesters are occupying buildings there.
	You have anti-Israel protesters re-erecting tents on Yale campus on Yale's campus.
	Uh I mean, it's unbelievable.
	You have Bloomington mayor, uh, Kerry Thomas on Sunday, you know, standing with anti-Israel protests, calling police to use de-escalation tactics, whatever that means.
	Uh fights breaking out between pro-Israel, pro-Palestine protesters as the Star Spangled Banner is playing at UCLA.
	Uh, we told you last week at GW University, uh, students standing up, you know, finally to the anti-Israel protesters, warning faculty they're indoctrinating kids with lies.
	I mean, you just think is this can't get any more insane, but it is.
	You have Green Party presidential candidate Jill Stein among a hundred arrested protesting at Washington University.
	College protesters demanding amnesty as they await consequences for their demonstration.
	Uh I mean, it had uh and and it just goes on and on and on.
	And yet, what was it?
	One of the colleges last week, you had what?
	The final solution.
	They're now actually quoting Hitler.
	You know, Israel compared to Nazis and ISIS in a dearborn sermon.
	You need to re-educate the Jews, religious quote, leader, Dearborn, Michigan, comparing Israel to Nazi Germany and ISIS in a sermon at their local Islamic institute of quote knowledge.
	Zionism is the ISIS of today.
	What part of Israel being a victim here do these students not get, as we have been pointing out?
	The October 7th Hamas attack.
	Again, if this happened against Americans, and uh I saw this in the paper today.
	I'm like, finally, somebody else is getting what I've been saying.
	It would be the equivalent of 40,000 Americans uh slaughtered in a single day, 8,000 Americans taken hostage out of the country, thousands tortured, mutilated, and beheaded.
	Do these kids have any sense at all of what the hell it is that they're doing?
	It was George Washington University, you know, that that had one of these protesters with the words final solution.
	Okay, uh that means annihilating the Jews.
	Now we've been watching Columbia arrests now being made at U University of Texas at Austin.
	That happened there, but we've been watching Columbia all day.
	The the deadline for them to leave the little tent city is coming and it is gone.
	I think they should turn on the uh the sprinkler systems and and like they did it at Harvard, apparently they didn't do it on purpose, but it was pretty funny when it happened.
	Anyway, so you have literally a pro-Hamas organization leading the tent city in talks with the university.
	And this was in the New York Post today.
	And the anti-Israel tent encampment at Columbia is now being led by a cohort of controversial student leaders that are expressing, quote, solidarity with Hamas and saying Zionists don't deserve to live.
	I mean, these students are the ones negotiating directly with leaders of an Ivy League university and holding the campus hostage with dozens of tents and hundreds of protesters.
	Rabbis telling students there to stay home.
	If you're Jewish, don't go to the university.
	It's pretty unbelievable.
	One of the voices is one of the most prominent ones uh behind the Columbia United part apartheid divest campaign, which is demanding the university divest from any company that does business with the Israeli military, including a wide swath of Fortune 500 companies.
	Uh anyway, the guy's banned from campus on Friday in response to a resurfaced video that showed him saying Zionists don't deserve to live.
	Well, anyway, they're not leaving.
	But they are in Texas, they are taking action.
	New York, of course, doing little to nothing.
	You know, what this is what you send your kid to an Ivy League institution for.
	Anyway, let me uh play for you.
	Uh this is one of the the radicals, a leader of the Columbia protest comparing Zionists to Nazis and feeling very comfortable uh calling for them to die.
	Listen.
	The existence of Nazis, white supremacists, Zionists, these are all the same people.
	The existence of them and the projects they have built, i.e.
	Israel, it's all antithetical to peace.
	It's all antithetical to peace.
	And so, yes, I feel very comfortable, very comfortable calling for those people to die.
	And with that being said, Kamani is signed out.
	See you in New York real soon.
	Pretty sick stuff.
	And you got Congresswoman Omar saying Jewish students should be protected if they are anti-genocide or pro-genocide.
	They should be protected.
	Listen.
	I think it is really unfortunate that people don't care about the fact that all Jewish kids should be kept safe and that we should not have to tolerate anti Semitism or bigotry for all Jewish students, whether they are pro-genocide or anti-genocide.
	And if you think that's bad enough, when Bernie Sanders was on one of the Sunday shows, asked about this, you know, about Congresswoman Omar's comments about Jewish students uh being pro-genocide and whether they should be protected.
	I mean, it's okay now in America to make terroristic threats because that's what you're doing.
	Anyway, here's his pathetic answer.
	She said some Jewish students are pro-genocide.
	Is that something that you're comfortable with that?
	Well, I don't know exactly.
	Look, what I think the essential point that Ilhan made is that we do not want to see uh anti-Semitism in this country.
	And I think the word genocide is something that is being determined by the International Court of Justice.
	But this is what I will say.
	I don't think there's any doubt that what Netanyahu is doing now, displacing 80% of the population uh in Gaza is that the cleansing.
	That's what it is.
	Pushing out huge numbers of people.
	And now we're looking at the possibility of an attack on Rafa, where people are gone for so-called uh as a safety zone.
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	Uh Dwight in California.
	Dwight, how are you?
	Glad you called, sir.
	I'm doing well.
	Hey, just uh wanted to talk about the protests and all these universities, different locations.
	These kids are very, very smart.
	They're not they're not dumb.
	They they know what's going on.
	The problem is Well, they might have been educated out of every ounce of common sense they were born with, so maybe we we can take a little exception to that.
	Well, the here's the point.
	The point is this they can drive this narrative all the way from the White House down.
	The problem is is the news media has not given the truth to the people.
	And I understand you guys is you know, you're you're getting pushback that you know, the the uh FEC, the federal control, what uh airways, whatever it is, but they need to see the truth.
	They need to have people that are on the ground, the first hand witnesses, if they got the truth out there, they wouldn't be doing this protest.
	Now, the first time that I've heard in all these months, I guess there's gonna be a documentary coming out from from this, but this is way after the game.
	I mean, this is way too late.
	They should have had the truth out there a long time ago.
	And you've had the truth, you know the truth.
	And you have held it back because of whatever reason, right?
	And I know the man and all you guys are the same, you have to fight the regulation, but still, these kids wouldn't be doing what they're doing if they had the truth out there.
	Same thing as happened in Germany when they controlled the media, they could do anything they want.
	It's no different happening now.
	Our kids are smart, they just need to have the truth presented to them, and they can they can make the right decisions.
	Well, uh, you know, some students will, and then some people just cling to their radicalism uh like manna from heaven think they're doing God's work.
	I mean, you have these indoctrinated people.
	I mean, sadly, this is this is what's so sad about Palestinian children.
	I mean, they're they're indoctrinated into hating Jews from the times that they're very, very young.
	You know, that they go to school and their math problems and they watch cartoons that are literally talk about killing Jewish people.
	I mean, it it's it's literally straight out of Nazi Germany.
	And we've shown this.
	Oh, okay, you have five Jews, you killed three three of them.
	How many Jews are left?
	And I mean, I'm not making any of this up.
	I mean, that's how pathetic, and that's how sad this is.
	And you know, if you if you've ever wondered why haven't neighboring countries been willing to absorb the Palestinian population is is countries like Egypt and Jordan and others know that this indoctrination is very, very real, and that to deprogram someone from a lifelong you know, brainwashing is difficult if not impossible.
	But unfortunately, that that is what has happened to the Palestinian people, and you know, for example, Hamas you know, pays the families of quote martyrs, people that kill, you know, uh suicide bombers, for example, that kill innocent Jewish people.
	Well, those families will end up getting compensated as uh as a result.
	They get rewarded.
	And where's a lot of that money coming from?
	A lot of that money is aid money from the United States and even Israel.
	Money that's supposed to be spent for infrastructure and schools and hospitals.
	It's not.
	It's being used to build terror tunnels and and pay families of suicide bombers, even.
	It's insane.
	I mean, what we're talking about is just insane.
	Matt, Florida, the free state of Florida.
	How are you, sir?
	I'm doing great.
	How are you doing?
	I'm good.
	What's going on?
	Well, the thing of it is um I wanted to say first and foremost that I definitely hope that Donald Trump picks Tim Scott as his running mate.
	And I know that the Democrats are terrified that that's who he's gonna pick.
	See, the other day I saw something I've I've heard two separate things.
	I heard somebody talk about Christy Nolan, and then I heard somebody talk about Marco Rubio.
	Neither one of these would be a good good decision because the because of the demographics of it.
	The fact of the matter is that the women that are for Trump are gonna stay with Trump.
	The women that are against him are against him.
	If he gets Christy Nolan, we already tried it with McCain and Sarah Palin, and it went nowhere.
	Oh, let's get a woman so and the Democrats will vote for us.
	It didn't work, even though everybody was mad that Hillary got passed up by Obama.
	And on top of that, there are a lot of black people that are afraid of Trump.
	They just they they're they kind of like him, but they think he's a racist.
	That's the biggest thing going around.
	If we ended up with Tim Scott, it would change the demographic.
	There would be people that would be bloodthirsty to support Trump.
	Black black people would come to him like never before, and the party, the Republican Party would get overwhelmed because it would have so many new people joining up.
	At the end of the day, even with his case in Georgia, I see it would be a hung try uh hung jury if he had Tim Scott as his running mate, because if he had Tim Scott as his running mate, there are going to be some black guys on that ward on that on that committee that are you know, that jury that are gonna say, hey, we don't want to convict this guy, we don't want to destroy our people.
	Now there's a lot of there's a lot of blacks that are voting for Biden because of Obama.
	They have loyalty to Obama.
	They know that a vote for Biden is a vote for Obama, and a vote for Trump is a vote against Obama.
	If they had Tim Scott as an in their corner, they would want to support him and they would do everything they can possible.
	At the end of the day, Marco Rubio could have helped if if Matt Romney would have done the right thing and picked Marco Rubio as his running mate, that would have worked out perfect because Marco Rubio could have done a better job in a debate and a better job altogether.
	And he would have brought the young vote, he would have brought the Latino vote, and he would have brought the female vote.
	But now is a different time.
	If Marco Rubio were to be on the be with him now, the Latinos who hate Trump are gonna hate him, the Latinos that love Trump are gonna love him.
	Marco Rubio would not shift the demographics in any way.
	And if he were to kick uh um the governor from what's his name from uh DeSantis, if he were to try DeSantis, it wouldn't work anywhere because DeSantis would bring no voters.
	Everybody who'd vote for DeSantis would vote for Trump anyways.
	They'd bring no new demographics.
	Look, I think you mentioned a lot of good people here, and I was glad to see DeSantis and Trump, you know, air out some of their differences.
	I never liked when they were fighting anyway.
	Um, because they're aligned.
	I like Marco, I like Senator Tim Scott.
	Um look there's probably a play out sooner than later.
	I hope people are thinking about it.
	Uh I got a roll though.
	I do appreciate the call, my friend.
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	Anyway, go to their website, it's USCCA.com slash Hannity.
	USCCA.com slash Hannity right now, and put in your email, and they're gonna send you this guide instantly.
	That's USCCA.com slash Hannity.
	All right, when we come back, we'll check in with our friend Joe Concha, media abusively biased and corrupt and the biggest donor to the campaign of Joe Biden, and we'll talk about polls and all you need to know that the media mob ignores.
	That's next.

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