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So the U.S. Department of Justice has now launched what they're calling the National Extreme Risk Protection Order Resource Center.
The launch of the National Extreme Risk Protection Order Resource Center will provide their partners across the country with valuable resources to keep firearms out of the hands of individuals that pose a threat to themselves or others.
The establishment of the center is the latest example of the DOJ's work to use every tool provided to by the landmark bipartisan safer communities act to protect communities from gun violence, which everybody would want.
I have been running the names of people shot, shot and killed in Chicago since 2009.
And nobody has lifted a finger to ever help the people of Chicago.
And violence spirals out of control.
We we know how to stop shootings.
And it is this new program is is drawing an immediate backlash from Republicans who called this effort a massive red flag operation.
And and rightly so, as she announces the new office to implement red flag gun control laws.
Anyway, here to weigh in on all of this is John Lotte is the president of the Crime Prevention Research Center many, many years ago, and it's had many different updates over the years.
More guns, less crime.
Is this really a different effort than what they are saying it is?
Obviously, the answer appears to be very clearly it is.
Anyway, thanks for being with us, uh John Locke.
Great to have you back, sir.
It's great to talk to you again.
Thanks for having me on.
Let's talk about what's really at stake here, because Congress never authorized the Department of Justice to create this resource center.
And maybe you can start with the basics for those that may not understand red flag laws and what they mean, maybe you can explain it to them.
Right.
Look, I mean, everybody wants to try to make people safer.
Uh unfortunately, the types of proposals that Biden keeps on putting out there aren't going to make people safer and may even cause more problems in their work.
Look, right now, every state in the country has what they call civil commitment laws, which uh if somebody is a danger themselves or others, you can call the police, the police will come out.
If the police think that there's a reasonable probability that the person is in fact a danger themselves or others, they can take the person in to immediate mental health care evaluation.
If the mental health care experts agree that there's a reasonable chance that the person is uh a danger, uh there can be an immediate hearing.
If somebody can't afford a lawyer, one is provided for them, and then the evidence is examined, and if the judge decides that the person is in fact a danger to themselves or others, the judge has a range of options.
They can say, look, I'm concerned if you voluntarily go and see a mental health care professional, we'll re-evaluate in a week or two.
Or if they think the person may harm others, they can take away their driver's license, or they can take away their guns, or in the more extreme case, they can involuntarily commit the person.
The only thing that red flag laws do is take away a person's guns.
And the thing is, there's no hearing.
All the judge sees when they make a decision is a piece of paper with the written complaint.
They don't talk to either the person who's making the complaint or the person who the complaint is made about when they make a decision whether to take away a person's guns.
And then within a week, within a month, there'll be a hearing, but no lawyers provide it for you.
You're talking about $10,000 or more to have a hearing, and so people may want to have a gun, but you know, if if it means they have to pay $10,000 to go and argue a case about that would temporarily take away their guns.
Most people don't think it's worth $10,000 to do that, and so they're not legally represented when they finally have a hearing.
And so, y you know, I think gun control advocates want to make people think that if you could just take away somebody's guns, that will solve the problems.
But, you know, these are usually used for concerns about suicide.
You know, if you really think somebody's suicidal is simply taking away their guns, gonna stop them from committing suicide.
They're not other ways for somebody to go and commit suicide.
And they don't involve any mental health care professionals or any help that the person's going to be getting.
All they want to do is say, if I just take away the guns, that's going to solve the problem.
And it doesn't deal with the underlying problem or other things that could happen, or it doesn't deal with other ways that people can harm people.
You can have, as we've witnessed, somebody can drive a car through uh you know a crowd someplace.
You know, we've had it a couple years ago through a Christmas uh parade in Wisconsin.
You know, other times things like that have happened.
And so simply taking away the gun's a solution.
It's not and and the problem is this can be abused.
I have a good friend of mine, uh uh Andrew Pollock.
He lost his daughter at the Parkland school shooting.
Um he moved to rural Oregon to get away from uh Florida uh because of the trauma that he had gone through.
He had some neighbors move in next door to him who were from California and hated him politically.
They put in an extreme risk protection order.
Uh judge only saw the written complaint, took away Andy's guns.
When they finally had a hearing, the judge didn't even need to listen to Andy's side of the argument, didn't even need to hear the defense because he said there's no threat here.
Why did you even file this paper?
Anyway, uh while Andy was disarmed because of this, he ran into a mountain lion outside of his home.
Uh his dog tangled with the mountain lion, ended up having to have 50 stitches uh on its side because of that.
But Andy would normally, because he lives in rural Oregon and there's mountain lions and bears and other things that are there, he normally would carry a gun with him.
But because he was disarmed because of the extreme risk protection order, he wasn't able to protect himself.
And there's many cases like that.
And the problem is uh, you know, the people who make these false charges are never uh punished for making them.
And so you have all these abuses that occur with the system.
But the bottom line is that when you look at the empirical work on this, it doesn't reduce suicides.
There's even some evidence that it increases suicides, and and there's a simple reason for that, and that is you may create a situation where people are afraid to go and talk to others about their problems, and there's no mental health care professionals that are involved in the process.
Now, what are they really trying to codify into law here?
Because I think it goes deeper than what you're you're saying just so people can understand what red flag laws actually do.
Right.
Well, I think they just want to make people afraid of guns just generally, just trying to think if we could do if the whole solution to any problem is just get rid of the guns.
And you know, I uh you have a situation though where they make it so people can't use guns for self-defense.
They make it so that law-abiding citizens who don't have a problem aren't able to go and explain to a court.
Uh the one of the people that works for my center, uh, Nikki Goser, some years ago, about 14 years ago, uh her husband was murdered in front of her by a stalker.
Uh she was incredibly depressed afterwards.
Uh but you know, if you have something like a red flag law there and there's a neighbor or friend or somebody else who says, Look, Nikki's very depressed, he has a gun, uh, and maybe out of well-meaning, they could go to a court file a piece of paper there.
If Nikki had had her gun removed from her, she would be in horrible shape because she just had a stalker uh murder her husband.
She would feel afraid to go outside the home.
But if you had a hearing where she could go and explain to the judge the situation that she was in, uh, you or at least to mental health care professionals, the situation that she was in, it'd be unlikely that they would take away her ability to go and defend herself and protect herself.
But you don't allow that uh in the case of red flag laws.
Let's go over the last number of years, then I'm gonna play Kamala Harris for you.
Uh as you you keep these statistics and you have pointed out again and again that if the people are armed that the odds are that there will be a lot less crime.
You have proven that statistically, you know, for doing so and writing this best selling book and then revising it repeatedly over the years.
What are the latest numbers?
How many people annually in the United States uh are able to use a firearm to prevent themselves from being victims of crime?
Well, you have something between about 1.6 and 2 million people a year who do that.
It's about five times more frequently each year that people use guns to prevent violent crime than guns are used in the commission of crime.
You know, uh Biden and many gun control advocates want to make you think that violent crime is a gun issue.
Over ninety-two percent of violent crime has absolutely nothing to do with guns.
So you have eight percent.
And the you know, if you want to stop gun crime, you want to stop it in the same way you stop crime generally.
You want to make it risky for criminals to go and commit crimes with higher arrest rates, higher conviction rates, longer prison sentences.
Unfortunately, uh you know, they just want to focus on passing gun control laws, which primarily disarm law-abiding good people, unfortunately, relative to criminals, and rather than making it more difficult for criminals to commit crime because the victims are disarmed uh and not able to protect themselves, they unintentionally in many cases make it easier for criminals to commit crime.
I'll give you a simple example.
Every single place in the world that's banned either all guns or all handguns has seen murder rates go up every single time.
You think out of randomness, once or twice, uh a ban would be associated with murder rates staying the same or or falling.
But there's a simple reason for that.
You know, we've seen this in Chicago, we've seen this in Washington, D.C., when they had their their handgun bans.
And the the simple reason is this that when you pass laws, you have to be careful that it's not going to be primarily the most law-abiding good citizens who obey these rules and not the criminals.
If you have a ban, for example, who do you think you may take a few guns away from criminals, but if it's primarily the law-abiding good citizens who you disarm, you make it easier for the criminals to commit crimes.
John Lott is with us.
He is the president of the Crime Prevention Research Center.
Let me let me well, first of all, Kamala Harris had a pretty horrible weekend.
I mean, clapping to a protest song uh and you know, literally, we want to know, Kamala, this is the song she's clapping to.
What did you come here for?
Long live free Palestine and Haiti too, the band is is out there singing.
She's clapping until one of our employees uh says, uh, you may not want to clap to that song.
They're not exactly being complimentary, but putting that aside, focusing on what you're describing.
The father of a victim of the Parkland school shooting, slamming Vice President Kamala Harris, he called it a photo op.
Ryan Petty's name, the father of Elena was was critical of Harris using the school to push her her gun agenda.
And this is her making the announcement about the National Resource Center for red flag laws.
Listen.
The second reason I am here is to announce that today I am launching the National Resource Center for Red Flag Laws.
And this National Resource Center will be a place where we will through that provide for training for local leaders on how to use red flag laws and keep communities safe.
So these are just what some of the ways that we can learn from what happened here.
And of course, as you know, I will continue to advocate for what we must do in terms of universal background checks.
An assault weapons ban, what we must continue to do to treat diagnose and treat trauma in our communities.
Your reaction to your uh ever so brilliant vice president.
Well, look, uh, she mentions these universal background checks, these background checks on the private transfers of guns.
After the Uvaldi report that came out, uh the number one gun control argument that Biden was pushing was these background checks on the private transfers of guns as somehow a solution.
I wish once in a while the media would ask critical questions like, okay, you you're saying this after the Ubaldi report, would the this law have stopped this attack that you're using to go and push for this law?
And the answer would have been no.
Would it have stopped any mass public shooting this century?
And the answer would be no.
But some for somehow the media refuses to ask either Biden or the White House those types of questions when they push this as their number one solution for these things.
Look, I want to stop these types of mass public shootings.
But I want to do something again that works.
You know, I look at school.
And you want and you want innocent law-abiding citizens, especially in this day and age, which has gotten more violent than ever.
They sh they have a constitutional right to protect themselves.
I have about 15 seconds.
Yeah.
Look, where do these guys attack?
They attack time after time where places where guns are banned.
These guys may be crazy, but they're not stupid.
They go after targets where they know their victims can't defend themselves.
And so you pass these gun-free zones, and the only thing that you've done is you've made them magnet for these criminals to go and attack.
All right, John Lott, we really appreciate you as always, President Crime Prevention Research Center.
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Uh, you know, there's certain people in life that I've just come to know and admire and like personally.
Two of the most successful people in Hollywood are not your traditional Hollywood people.
Well, what am I talking about?
In other words, they're not afraid to bring their faith, their religion, their value system to the screen.
And also they put out great fun shows as well.
Probably one of the the greatest power couples in in Hollywood history that don't get the acclaim I think they deserve.
I'm friends with both of them, Mark Burnett, of course, everybody knows.
Uh, and of course, Roma Downey, who everybody knows as well.
I mean, everybody remembers her role in Touch by an Angel, that became like the biggest hit ever.
You know, there's a reason every year, at least once, if not twice a year, Newsweek and Time magazine when there were actually real publications, they would put Jesus on the cover.
Because people bought the what would buy that magazine when they're at the local grocery store.
Anyway, uh the great news is uh we know that uh Roma, whatever project she's involved in is gonna be a big huge success.
And based on what is known as the redemption literary series from the number one New York Times best-selling author, Karen Kingsbury.
Well, the Baxters, it's a it's a family drama.
It follows Elizabeth and John Baxter, their five adult children.
Uh season one of the Baxters centers on Elizabeth and John's daughter Carrie, who learns the shocking truth that her professor husband has been secretly having an affair with one of her cow one of his college students.
Great.
Uplifting.
But, however, very real life, isn't it?
Isn't that the sad part of it?
But how do they deal with it?
That's what makes this series different.
One, two, three.
Let's go.
Let's go.
I'm a little worried about Carrie and Tim.
They don't look at each other the same way anymore.
Something's bothering you.
I have been struggling.
Carrie.
I have built my whole world around you.
Tim is in love with another one.
I keep going over in my mind, and I have no idea how we got to this point.
You don't know why you want to stay with him.
I'm fighting for my marriage.
I get you made a commitment to death.
You don't know anything about commitment.
You can't commit to anything.
Have you talked to Ryan?
Sure.
Do you ever need someone to talk to?
You know I'm only from Clown Boy, right?
Why did you come back?
To save our marriage.
Is this still what you want?
And that move beyond the skill until you find the courage to allow yourself to just forgiveness at this point.
Healing takes a lifetime.
You have always been there for me.
I'm so scared.
You're not alone.
We're your family.
We are.
It fills our hearts to know that we can be here for you.
We'll see you next time.
Uh anyway, our friend Roma Downey's here.
Uh we wanted to check in with her to tell us about it.
You know, whenever you and Mark do a project, I'm just interested in whatever it is because I've enjoyed everything you've ever done.
I mean, it really is that simple for me.
Thank you, Sean.
It's so nice to uh to speak with you and um thank you.
Yeah, this this show came about uh uh a number of years ago.
I I actually came to the project because I read the first book in the redemption series.
A friend gave it to me and I was reading it on a long flight, and I simply couldn't put it down.
It was one of those page turning novels.
I just wanted to I love the characters, I love the the redemptive nature of the story.
They're a church going family, they're a you know, they're a family that you relate to.
I know you're gonna fall in love with this family, but they're not a per they're not perfect people, you know.
They have their issues, they have you know, there's dysfunction in the family like most families.
They they don't always like each other, they don't always make good choices, but they always love each other.
And when life brings the Baxters to their knees, what separates them from other families on T V dramas is that they pray.
They're a family who pray together.
And I think that that particularly people of faith out there who are listening will love to see a family on a television show that reflect the values that we hold dear.
You know what's amazing, Roma is time has gone on.
Um you see that that things have changed, that television has changed, that choices and options are more numerous, frankly, than they've ever been.
And people gravitate towards good shows and then word of mouth kind of takes over, which I would expect is is likely gonna happen in this series.
Uh look at Angel Studios, for example, the chosen, uh a couple of other uh studios independent out there that they're not afraid to go where Hollywood previously never dared went to, or if they did, you know, you did a great remake of Ben Hur, I remember, and when you did it was a huge uh success.
And I'd loved it because I always loved the original with Charlton Heston, and I thought you did a great job with it, and and not an easy film to make and and so on and so forth, but times are changing.
You know, you have Prime, you have Amazon, uh, you have Hulu, you have Netflix.
I mean, people have more choices, more options, and they're being more discerning.
Are you discovering that too?
Yeah, for sure.
And I think that uh, you know, it is great to see so much uplifting and inspirational content on the airwaves, both in cinema and on TV.
But I think T V is a little slower on that uptake, you know.
I mean, I you mentioned there in the intro my uh the many years as playing Monica Untouched by an Angel and what a that show was.
And I'm hoping that um, you know, in the last few years I've primarily been producing.
I haven't really stepped in front of the camera myself, but I get I decided to do so with the Baxters and I stepped into playing the role of Elizabeth Baxter myself.
So it was great fun to be back in front of the camera again.
And I really just believe in the story.
Um I think Karen Kingsbury is just such an excellent storyteller.
And uh and it was it was you know fun and challenging of course to dramatize this to bring it to bring it to Prime and I'm delighted to be back on Prime.
I don't know if you got to see the film I produced last Easter with Dennis Quaid and Heather Graham.
It was called On Wing and a Prayer and I did say it was very successful on uh Amazon's prime video.
And so I feel terrific that they entrusted me with the Easter time slot again for the launch of the Baxters and uh it goes up on the twenty eighth and then it will live there.
And they ask of people, you know, listen it's har people are busy.
I know that I'm raising a family.
I've got to work 'cause I've got you know a million things.
So it's it's hard to to ask people would can you go out and see this film.
Can you go do that?
What I love about T V drama is that that all you have to do is curl up on the comfort of your own couch in front of your own TV.
And the lovely thing about a show like Baxter's Sean is that you can sit down with your mum and with your kids.
You know it's family friendly television.
And even though it's dealing with these pertinent, you know, social and family dynamics, you know, uh it doesn't shy away from some of the issues that that we have to deal with in our families and and our in our culture.
But it anybody that claims they don't have any issues in their family just they're not being honest.
I that's everybody has their own stuff.
Everybody Elizabeth and John Baxter have five adult children, so there's plenty of drama but it's how they deal with it.
And it's seeing this family through the lens of faith uh I think that is what separates it from other shows on television because we don't rarely get to see people that go to church.
We don't rarely get to see people that will stop in the middle of a crisis or concern for each other and see people holding hands and praying together in the name of Jesus on television.
We don't get to see that.
So I think this is what makes the Baxters really special and um and while it's made for everybody's an invitation to everybody to come and watch it.
But I think that people of faith in particular will enjoy seeing um you know people who who pray on television.
Well we really appreciate what you do and I guess it's apropos to be launching it this holy week uh Palm Sunday this past Sunday, Easter Sunday coming up I actually shared uh I will share a link to your show on my social media.
We'll put it up on Hannity dot com as well uh I actually tweeted out not tweeted X'd out I had Linda do it because I don't have access.
My team won't give me access to social media Roma.
They don't have any confidence in me.
And so they've taken away my passwords and I I have to ask permission from people that work for me to actually post anything.
But that's a another story for another day.
But I I did put out uh Michael W. Smith's uh Bridgestone Arena concert.
Um if you like contempor contemporary Christian music as I do, uh you're gonna love this.
Uh i it really is it's like one Christian anthem after another.
Uh anyway, uh great to have you Roma.
Please must send my best to Mark.
We'll be watching the Baxters uh closely and we wish you all the success as always.
Thank you.
You so much and happy Easter to you and your family.
You too.
Thank you.
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Uh Paul in Nevada.
Paul, how are you?
Glad you called what's going on.
Hey Sean, how's it going?
I'm good.
How are you?
What's going on?
Oh uh just working in the garage today.
I got a old Jeep I'm working on and uh just tinkering around yeah.
I used to love doing that when I was a kid.
Yeah.
Yeah I did an old two thousand six Jeep TJ just needs a fake lift.
So well I I made a mistake.
I used to paint my own cars and I like burned my lungs out when I used Imeron uh painting a a work van of mine once how stupid was that I used a one of those those white masks that are useless.
I really needed a a respirator Oh yeah.
I hear that so one day I got a a picture of my lungs.
The guy goes, you know you have a lot of scar tissue.
I'm like really months but anyway quickly I don't want you to get to a point.
What's on your mind?
Uh I had a couple things.
I wanted uh talk about the uh the border guys getting all banged up last week with uh.
I know uh they made a big deal with the January 6th, but wasn't that technically now an insurrection?
Isn't that like the definition of insurrection now?
Because Joe Biden back in 2020 said, come on, come all.
You're all you mean when the when the illegal immigrants rushed the gate, knocked over the gate the wire, and cut through, and you know, pushed through uh Texas National Guard and then celebrated at the border.
You mean those guys?
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
The ones that, you know, come on, come all.
You're all you're all welcome.
And uh he invited them.
So it's like Trump didn't invite anybody to do any violence, just make your voice heard.
They went there, they made their voice heard, a couple people went in, probably and whatever, but this was a whole big group.
Isn't that technically now the definition of I mean, what about the summer of 2020, the five hundred and seventy-four riots that killed dozens of Americans, injured thousands of cops, pelted with bricks, rocks, bottles, Molotov cocktails, and caused billions of property damage.
Uh, we didn't have a predetermined congressional hearing on any of that, didn't get to the bottom of it.
And we had a lot of Democrats, including your vice president, you know, saying they're not gonna stop, they shouldn't stop, we're not gonna stop.
I mean, it's absolute insanity, the double standard.
And now what are we learning about the January 6th committee?
Oh, they conveniently uh withheld the testimony of the driver of the car of Donald Trump, and he testified that he never tried to commandeer that vehicle.
And what else did we learn?
Oh, all a lot of the evidence is magically disappeared.
And what else have we learned?
That uh there were five people in a meeting, and they all confirm that Donald Trump was talking about bringing in the National Guard in the days leading up to it, and the police chief, the Capitol Police Chief, said he had actionable intelligence and was begging for the guard.
Huh.
All of that was just glossed over.
Anyway, appreciate the call, my friend, 800-941 Sean or number if you if you want to join us.
All right, that's gonna wrap things up for today.
All right, a lot of legal news tonight.
Jonathan Turley, Kerry Kupek is gonna be on.
Also, we'll check in with Laura Trump.
We'll get Trump family reaction.
Uh oh, Senator Kennedy.
Wow.
He tore this guy up before the Senate in a committee uh earlier.
Wait till you hear this.
That's all coming up.
And Tommy Larren, Ari Fleischer, and Governor Sanders will join us as well.
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