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Alan Dershowitz - February 16th, Hour 2
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Well, if you're just joining us, no surprise here.
We have an attorney general in the state of New York that ran on a platform to go after one man, one organization, one family, and she got a liberal leftist judge that is more guilty of phony valuations than the defendants in this case.
Uh, that, of course, was presiding over this case.
You can you can't even make this up.
Donald Trump Jr.
Uh went out with uh, I guess this was probably on X, maybe it was on truth, I don't know.
We've reached the point where your political beliefs, combined with what venue your case is heard, are the primary determinants of the outcome, not the facts of the case.
It's truly sad what has happened to our country, and I hope others see it before it's too late to correct course.
We need a course correction.
He is correct.
What you are watching is a literal the collapsing of major institutions in society right now.
And this is not hyperbole.
You're watching a weaponized justice system.
You're literally seeing it right before your eyes.
It's been politicized.
You're you're watching our our educational institutions collapse before us under a platform that has gotten away from the fundamentals of reading, writing, math, science, arithmetic, science, and history and computers.
You know, to indoctrinate children into certain thinking patterns rather than teaching them to think and believe things on their own, trying to bypass parental values and instill their values because they think that what?
They're smarter than parents.
You see, our media institutions, how corrupt they are.
You know, the steel dossier is the perfect example.
Still dossier proven true.
It's proven true, proven true.
No, it's not proven true.
Then they come in.
Well, Hannity, the FBI informant that was uh an FBI informant for a highly credible, well-trusted informant, paid for by the FBI since 2010, gets indicted by special counsel Weiss.
Okay, that should not have happened.
The guy responsible.
But that is a collapse within the FBI, because that's now two informants, paid informants that that they have trusted that turn out to be not credible.
And they both in both cases, they're high profile cases.
In this case, he had to do with the FD-1023 form.
But as I rightly pointed out, you know, that does not negate the fact that Joe Biden lied about never speaking to his son, brother, or anybody for that matter about their foreign business deals.
That does not negate Devin Archer's testimony that in fact Joe was on at least 20 calls that he knew of with Hunter and his foreign business partners.
It doesn't negate the fact that he took official action as vice president of the United States, in spite of it being official Obama administration policy to leverage one billion dollars, give them six hours to fire a prosecutor, so an investigation would stop into his son and the company that was paying millions of dollars at a time that he's admitted to be addicted to drugs at a time he goes on Good Morning America, admits he has no experience in energy, oil, gas, coal, none of it.
You know, our justice system is collapsing.
It doesn't negate the fact that Joe Biden met with, you know, these these foreign business partners like Elena Batarina, the Russian oligarch, 3.5 million, a deal they did with with Hunter, on top of, according to Devin Archer, a hundred million dollars invested in real estate.
It doesn't negate the money that was sent to Hunter for a sports car.
It doesn't negate the fact that the that the WhatsApp message of Hunter Biden that is extraordinarily that it implicates his father in an extraordinary way.
I'm sitting here with my father.
You didn't keep your word.
Between all the people he knows and my ability to hold a grudge, you're gonna regret it.
Five million dollars shows up a few days later.
CEFC, the Chinese energy conglomerate.
Doesn't negate The monies that they made, no services apparently rendered, no areas of expertise exposed or told to us.
Romania, Kazakhstan, Ukraine, Russia, China, Mexico, others.
None of it.
You're just joining us, you know.
You have Judge and Goron, New York.
First of all, you have an attorney general ran on a platform, get Trump.
Target one man, one organization, one family.
Well, she fulfilled that promise today.
The judge that thinks Mar-a-Lago's worth 18 million when it's really worth closer to a billion, as I mentioned in the last hour.
You can't buy a lot, two-acre lot with dirt on in front of just the ocean.
That's that's 200 million dollars.
Just it's it's he says 18 million for a 22-acre property in Palm Beach on the ocean on the intercoastal, 58 bedrooms, 40 some odd bathrooms, multiple other buildings on the property, a beach club, another club, historic property, men condition.
Yeah, no, that's only worth 18 million.
And he stands by that valuation.
But no, Trump was fined libel for giving valuations that were not correct to insurance companies and banks.
Well, in every contract, they had language that said, don't rely on our estimates.
You must do your own due diligence.
Number one, which by the way, they'd have a fight fiduciary responsibility to do so.
And number two, no bank, no insurance company ever complained.
Just the opposite.
They said, no, we had no problem with the deal at all.
We got paid on time, happy with the deal.
Nobody was harmed.
But Letisa, the Letitia James, the AG in New York, still went after the organization.
Now found libel for 354.9 million.
Judge has banned Donald Trump, the Trump organization, from applying for loans from any New York chartered financial institution for three years.
Bans Trump and others for serving as an officer or director of any New York corporation or legal entity in New York for three years.
Judge bans Donald Trump Jr. and Eric Trump from serving as an officer or director of any New York corporation.
This is this is not justice.
I know liberals are probably happy.
I know they probably are.
Unbelievable.
Anyway, Professor Dershowitz is with us.
I know you probably have had a little bit of time What's your initial reaction?
Well, this is one liberal or at least civil libertarian who's very upset at this decision.
What this says basically is that if you want to run for high office, if you want to run for president, if you're a decent man, don't do it, because the opposing party will dig into everything in your background and make up cases against you.
It's hard to imagine a more made-up case.
You have the attorney general of New York who is elected to protect poor people, people who are vulnerable, people who need protection.
What does she do?
She prioritizes going after somebody who to protect banks who aren't complaining, who made money on this deal, and then he comes up with this crazy figure.
I mean, if he had fined him $10, it would be too much based on the actual damage done in this case, which is zero.
So this is such a partisan political case.
But I'm pessimistic about the New York state legal system being able to secure this.
You know, we have appellate courts which are designed to prevent miscarriages of justice of this kind.
But the appellate division in New York are elected judges, and they're primarily Democrats, and they will be inclined to affirm this judgment.
If the case does get to the New York Court of Appeals, that's less political, and maybe common sense will prevail.
But this sends such a terrible message about the weaponization, not only of our criminal justice system, but of our civil justice system as well.
This is not justice.
This is an attempt to try to get Trump.
Obviously, you'll recall I named my book there.
Get Trump.
I didn't invent that name.
I got it from Letitia James.
That was her campaign pledge to get Trump.
And I think that raises ethical questions for the bar.
Whether or not a district attorney in America should be able to do what LaVrenti Stalin did with uh LeVentry Berrier did with Joseph Stalin.
Show me the man and I'll find you the crime.
In this case, show me the man.
She already campaigned.
It's Donald Trump.
And I'll find you fraud, even though there were no victims.
I'll find you deep penalties even though there was no damage done.
This is a terrible day for our criminal justice and civil justice system.
I I I couldn't agree more.
Now let's go back to your best-selling book at Trump.
Let's play Letitia James again.
Sure.
And and Letitia James says this.
I will never be afraid to challenge this illegitimate president when our fundamental rights are at stake.
I believe that the president of these United States can be indicted for criminal offenses.
oh we're gonna definitely do it we're gonna be a real I know my name personally that man in the White House that man in the White House Who can't go a day without threatening our fundamental rights?
Yes, we need to focus on Donald Trump and his abuses.
We need to follow his money.
We need to find out where he's laundered money.
We need to find out whether or not he's engaged in conspiracy.
It's important that everyone understand that the days of Donald Trump are coming to an end.
I'm reported to going into the office of attorney general every day.
Defending your rights and then going home.
Unbelievable.
Maybe that's why it was a best-selling book.
Should AGs and DAs be running on a campaign to get one person, one family, one organization?
That doesn't sound like justice.
That sounds like the institution of justice collapsing before our rise, Professor.
I think it's unethical.
I think Bar Associations ought to look into it.
Look, I have been for 50 years opposed to electing prosecutors.
We're the only country in the world, as far as I know, that elects prosecutors.
Um prosecutors ought to be civil servants that don't run for office, don't come from a political party.
That's the way it is all through Europe.
That's the way it is in Israel.
That's the way it is in almost every country.
It's unheard of for people to be elected to run to get other people and to use their ability and their power, and no one has more power in this country than prosecutors, to use their prosecutorial power not to do justice, but to do partisan weaponization in order to get particular people.
It's banana republic.
Look, on a day when we see the manifestation of Banana Republic in Russia with uh the death of this great dissident, uh, we have to make sure we never get close to that.
We're not close to that.
I don't want to make any comparisons, but I can tell you that I on my on my talk show on my uh uh podcast, I rank the country in terms of bananas on the banana republic scale, and it was up to six.
It's now up to seven as the result of this case and the other cases against Donald Trump.
As you know, I don't mix my politics with my legal analysis.
Doesn't matter whether I'm in favor of Trump or against Trump or in favor of Biden or against Biden.
I call it as I see it.
And I care deeply about preserving our legal system as a neutral, objective way of doing justice.
And today is a terrible day for American justice.
I uh Professor, I can't say it any better, and I completely agree with you.
Uh I think it's extraordinarily well said.
I worry about our institutions.
You were a professor.
You know, look what's happening at our educational institutions.
Look at what's happening with law enforcement around the country.
Uh our our law and order is breaking down in this country.
Our judicial system is collapsing before us.
Uh, you have people with with prejudice, people with agendas, you have legislating from the bench, uh, you have the criminalization of political differences.
We don't have equal application of our laws, equal justice under the law.
It's a scary time for the country, Professor.
I'll give you the last word.
Well, it is, and it's not only New York, it's Fulton County, Georgia, where you have um uh an elected district attorney uh, you know, appointing her her her her boyfriend to prosecute uh the case.
Americans are not gonna trust our justice system.
If these kinds of abuses continue, and that's why it's it's so important that you continue to be a check and balance against these abuses, because the government today is not checking in balance.
And we need the media and we need outside people to do it.
And the academy is not checking in balance.
They've become part of the problem.
Look at Harvard.
They're part of the problem, not part of the solution.
So that's why I'm happy to be on your and other shows to be able to service some kind of a check and balance against this abuse of our legal system.
It's amazing.
You've been you've been pretty left your entire career, and now you have been canceled.
You've paid a price just for standing up for equal justice and equal application of our laws.
That's sad too, Professor.
And I know you've paid a price.
For my family, but but I I will always fight back.
Amen.
Get Trump, by the way.
If you haven't read it, the whole book was based on the comments of the attorney general in New York.
Professor Dershowitz, thank you for being with us today.
We always appreciate you.
Thank you, sir.
Thank you for having me.
Thank you.
All right, we got a lot of ground to cover.
Uh I know many of you want to weigh in on this uh injustice today.
I mean, the sad thing is all of it was predictable.
Once this judge came out with this insanity that Mar-a-Lago was 18 million, uh, I mean, you couldn't even make up a joke like this.
The whole issue is about valuations of properties, and this guy was only off by nearly a billion dollars.
And and yet the Trump organization gets this massive penalty, all because an AG elected in New York needed a campaign promise fulfilled.
Well, I bet she's pretty happy today.
Uh every American should be outraged and fearful, because now we're becoming a banana republic.
Sean Hannity talks to the people involved in the top stories of the day.
every day sean hannity is on all right 25 till the top of the hour toll-free numbers 800 941 sean if you want to be a part of the program uh If you're just getting in your car, it's Friday, and you're wondering what the heck is going on in the world.
Uh, there's no breaking news today.
There's really nothing happening.
Right, Linda?
There's no news today, right?
I'm just checking.
It's a very quiet Friday, as is as is the way in old news, you know, Fridays are the day that the news drops because they think nobody's paying attention.
Well, guess what?
Surprise we are.
You know what's pretty fascinating is I knew that I I I've I've told everybody this this was going to be the outcome here.
I said it yesterday on this program what the outcome was going to be.
And is as much as you prepare people for it, people are are you know, friends of mine are texting me and they are shocked.
And I'm like, why are you shocked?
This is the system.
If you've been following this case at all, even on the periphery for crying out loud, you know that this that this was baked in in in some, you know, cement that was baked in from the beginning.
Just like the January 6th Commission, they didn't want to hear from the Capitol Police Chief.
Why?
Because he he was asking for the National Guard in the days leading up to January 6th.
They didn't want to, you know, uh look at the intelligence that even Lester Holt of MBC reported that they had in in the days leading up to January 6th, actionable intelligence that things were gonna happen and that nobody prepared.
They didn't want to bring in Muriel Bowser.
They had a predetermined outcome.
They didn't want to talk to Nancy Pelosi, Chuck Schumer, the sergeant of arms.
They had a predetermined outcome.
And then this is what I say is we don't we have a weaponized system of justice in the country.
This this is sad.
This is also a reality.
And the fact that you have a judge that is you know presided over this case.
You know, I I've got the reach over here.
I got you know, all three hundred and ninety how many pages is it total?
I'm sorry, not three hundred, ninety-two pages total.
If you look at all of it, yeah, ninety-two pages total.
Donald Trump and his entities, he controls value of property, requiring properties requires huge amounts of cash.
Accordingly, the entities borrowed from banks and other lenders, the lenders required personal guarantees from Donald Trump, which were based on statements or financial conditions complied compiled by accountants that Donald Trump engaged.
The accountants created these compilations based on data submitted by the Trump entities in order to borrow more at lower rates, defendants submitted blatantly false financial data to their hang on a second.
Data to their by the Trump entities.
That's what it went on to say.
Anyway, in order to borrow these monies, resulting in fraudulent financial statements.
In other words, he's talking about.
Now, the irony here is, and this is very key.
The banks and insurance companies never complain.
Just the opposite.
They were happy with the deals that they made with the Trump organization.
They were all paid back and paid back on time with the amount of interest they charged based on their own valuations because that's their fiduciary responsibility.
It was a non-issue.
But the valuation of the judge in the case probably to me would be the main point of appeal.
That would be the main point of the appeal.
Institutions are collapsing.
Look at our FBI.
You know, now we have special counsel weiss charging the FBI informant, the one responsible for the 1023.
I got a kick out of the media, the mob.
Oh my gosh, Sean Hannity reported about the 1023 report.
It turns out that the FBI informant that put together the 1023 got arrested.
Okay, we'll see if he gets convicted.
However, uh, if it's true, and whether or not it's not true.
What is wrong?
What is going on with the FBI?
I'd like to know.
Because they're the ones that were saying that these are credible informants.
This guy worked for the FBI for 14 years, and only now they found out that he was fraudulent.
Christopher Steele's phony dossier.
They'd never, after finding out that it was bought and paid for by Hillary Clinton, money she funneled through a law firm to an op research firm into a that hired an MI6 agent by the name of Christopher Steele.
All of it turns out to be bogus and false.
Oh, that was the entire case.
It was all built on that.
Institutions are collapsing.
Judges abusively corrupt and biased.
You're electing, you know, look, you know, Look at what they're doing in New York.
Five illegal immigrants can beat the living Adam Schiff out of two police officers on video.
Get arrested, brought to jail, let out because of no bail laws.
And then, of course, they make their way to California after they flip the bird to every New Yorker on the way on the way out the door.
But they're going to go, Alvin Bragg is going to go after Donald Trump on an issue that the entire country knew about in 2015 and 16?
About Stormy Daniels.
You think Trump's going to get a fair trial there?
Let me tell everybody that was surprised today.
No, he's not going to get a fair trial there.
It's unreal.
Did anybody in the mob, the media that peddled the dossier story?
Were they ever held accountable?
Were they ever held accountable?
The difference between the 1023 form and the issue of the Biden family syndicate, it doesn't negate any of the known facts.
We know for a fact.
Second biggest one is CEFC.
Two oil giant conglomerates, one from China, one from Ukraine.
You just look at that case.
And you look at the fact that Joe Biden, huh, interestingly, becomes Obama administration policy.
Give them a billion in loan guarantees.
That was their policy.
How do we know it was their policy?
Because Joe Biden had the billion in loan guarantees with him when he went there.
That was in December 2015, a few days before he went there.
He got on a phone call with Barisma executives who were meeting with his zero experienced Sun and Energy that sat on the Barisma board and zero experience in Ukraine.
He sat on the board of the Ukrainian energy company, got paid millions.
Five days prior to Joe going to Ukraine.
He talks to the the people, the heads of Barisma and Hunter in Dubai.
And this is at the time that they needed DC help.
And sure enough, Joe Biden leverages a billion taxpayer dollars.
You're not getting it.
He didn't have the authority to do that.
Or you're not getting you're not getting the billion.
You got six hours.
Son of a bee, they fired him.
What happens as a result?
As a result, Hunter continues to get paid for work he's not qualified for.
At a time he's an admitted crack addict.
Wow, what a great country.
That doesn't that is not negated by the fact that they've charged the FBI informant on the 1023 form.
None of that has changed.
Joe's on tape bragging about it.
Hunter admits he was addicted to drugs.
The payments were made.
Nobody's disputed the payments were made.
He goes on Good Morning America, admits he has no experience.
That's the difference with the steel dossier.
Without the steel dossier, the Russia hoax is dead.
Dead.
By the way, we have Jamie Raskin talking about this FBI agent that David Weiss uh charged.
Because I'm listening to the mob in the media.
Well, let me play cut uh extra cut one.
The media mob, oh, the dear steel dossier is all true.
It's all true, all of it.
Based on our own reporting and word from numerous official sources, the dossier, in fact, is far from bogus.
No major thing from the dossier has been conclusively disproven.
We already know that the part about uh the coverage that they have on him uh with sex actions, uh, is supposed to be true.
The intelligence community has corroborated.
Whoever paid for it has corroborated a lot of the information that was in there to begin with.
Correct.
There are actually substantial portions of what was in the steel dossier, which was a raw intelligence document that have indeed checked out.
You know, I think we're gonna actually have to stop calling it the infamous dossier.
Increasingly, it's the accurate dossier.
Increasingly, it's the damning dossier.
Not one word has been disproven.
In fact, a lot of it turned out to be right on the money.
The dossier, right, which looked uh sort of out there at first, is getting truer and truer and truer as facts come out.
But some of the substance content content of the dossier, we were it were corroborated in our intelligence community assessment.
It hasn't been discredited.
In fact, it's been the opposite.
It's been corroborated.
Really?
Yes.
Really?
You're asking your intel community.
Your Intel community has corroborated all of the details in there.
The meeting.
Hold on, Congressman.
Let's go over it.
Fake news, CNN, MSDNC.
All of them went with it.
You know, I mentioned earlier, even eventually, uh, you get the New York Times and and what else?
The Washington Post, uh, New York Times.
How did so much of the media get the steel dossier wrong?
That's the New York Times.
Opinion, Washington Post.
What parts of the Steel dossier were corroborated?
None of them.
None of it was true.
Hillary paid for it.
Russian disinformation.
But there, oh, well, Fox News reported Hannity reported that the 1023 reform, well, the 1020, that was a true story.
It was a real 1023 form.
It was released by Charles Grassley, Iowa Senator.
Iowa Senator Grassley releases it.
Damning information in it.
What's wrong with the FBI now that they're paying people and they have informants that give them fake, phony, fraudulent information on such issues of importance as presidential elections.
How hard is this?
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Anyway, 800-941 Sean, if you want to be a part of the program.
Joe Biden, nothing negates the fact that he took official action.
Nothing negates zero experience Hunter being paid millions.
Nothing negates the WhatsApp message that's I'm sitting here with my father.
Nothing negates the damning text messages, emails on Hunter's laptop, the pictures on Hunter's laptop.
Nothing.
Oh, I'm giving half my income to Pops.
Wow.
You know, the big guy or Tony Bobelinski's testimony.
By the way, they released today, earlier today.
They did release Tony Bobelinski's uh testimony.
No, the mob and the media, they will probably ignore it, but that's typical of them.
I mean, the whole Bobolinski issue is just unbelievable to me.
You know, he's the one that told us first that it was the big guy.
Oh, but Joe Biden's visiting East Palestine for the first time today in Ohio.
Why bother Joe?
You're you're a year late and more than a dollar short.
Unbelievable.
By the way, Bob Olinski testified, he called Biden dirty.
Wow.
Unbelievable.
Anyone in the media mob going to cover that?
No.
Full time, I hate Trump, I hate Trump, I hate Trump.
Don't be surprised by this.
We have been warning about institutions now collapsing before our very eyes in this country and in this society.
The institution of justice has been corrupted.
Don Jr. is not wrong that we've reached the point where your political beliefs combined with what your what venue your case is heard are the primary determinants of the outcome, not the facts of the case.
It is sad what has happened to our country.
And I hope others see it before it's too late for a course correction.
Yeah, we need a course correction desperately.
We need it in law enforcement.
Look at crime around the country.
Look at the, you know, we can predict probably with some degree of accuracy how many people will be shot and shot and killed this weekend in Chicago.
How sad is that?
We've been posting names of people since 2009, people you've never heard of, shot, shot, and killed.
Nobody does a thing, lifts a finger.
No bail laws.
How's that working out?
Defund dismantle, reimagine police.
How's that working?
That institution's collapsing.
Our educational institutions are collapsing.
Law and order is collapsing.
Our justice system is collapsing.
What is going on?
Why is this happening in our great country, the United States of America?
Targeting political opponents, AGs, and DAs running on platforms to go after certain Americans because they don't like them or agree with them.
How did that happen in America?
What happened at blind justice?
Equal justice under the law, equal application of our laws.
This is a critical juncture for this country.
And literally just 262 short days.
We'll have an opportunity to fix it.
And I can't tell you with any degree of confidence what the result of that election is going to be.
You know, what's the impact of 91 felony charges against the top a top candidate of a top party in our country?
I don't know.
On top of not being able to get a fair trial in New York, D.C., I don't think you can get one in Fulton County, Georgia, if one finally exists.
These are the times we are now living in.
We can be so much better than this.
We can be a shining city on the hill, a beacon of light for the world.
You know, we could be a force for greatness in this world.
And yet now our enemies are emboldened by a president that doesn't even remember the years he was vice president that can mumble and bumble and stumble his way through every public event and have no knowledge whether to exit stage left or stage right.
The same guy that literally thinks, you know, how dare he bring up the issue of my son that passed away.
Oh, how dare he?
Well, he didn't.
Joe brought it up, not Robert Herr.
800-941-Shawn, our number.
When we come back, Greg Jarrett, Pam Bondi.
We'll get more your we'll get your calls in.
I know you've been very patient.
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