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| Yeah, Logan Seculo. | |
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| For those of you that don't know, um, we head up the American Center for Law and Justice, public interest law firm. | |
| And uh if you're watching the news right now, you're watching about our work because every network that I've watched today has talked about the Colorado GOP repu uh appeal to the Supreme Court of the United States on this attempt to take Donald Trump off the ballot. | |
| Recall that this was an action brought by a group called Crew. | |
| Uh it has Democrats in it and some Republican-ish uh people in it. | |
| I'll say it that way. | |
| And this is one of many cases that are now pending on the Supreme Court. | |
| I'm gonna break all of that down for everybody because this one is moving very quickly. | |
| And literally, if you're watching Fox News right now or CNN or MSNBC, this is what they're covering. | |
| Yeah, it's uh been the top story of the day. | |
| A lot of people have had a lot of questions about it too. | |
| It's not necessarily as cut and dry as maybe a lot of people think, uh, but they're seeing a lot of attention, a lot of attention to the ACLJ, and a lot of people, like you said, somewhat on both sides saying this is a case that needs to be handled. | |
| Yeah, in fact, let me tell let me kind of break the case down. | |
| So the the case originated out of Colorado, and you had a group of electors, believe it or not, file a lawsuit to remove Donald Trump from the Colorado ballot for the primary, and then of course for the general election. | |
| And that was based on their interpretation of the 14th Amendment, Section Three, which does say if you're found guilty of, or if you're accused of and guilty of insurrection, you can be removed from a ballot. | |
| If but it doesn't apply to the president of the United States, because the President of the United States is not an officer of the United States, and that's what the amendment says. | |
| But also, it's not self-executing. | |
| What that means is the idea that, you know, a state Secretary of State or Board of Elections can just on their own say, oh, we think he's guilty of insurrection, which Trump was never charged with, never convicted of, and the one time insurrection came up, it was during an impeachment, and he was acquitted in the United States Senate. | |
| I did the first impeachment defense of President Trump and helped on the other. | |
| And the reality is this idea that a Secretary of State on their own can start removing people from the ballots outrageous. | |
| But fundamentally here, what it violates is the right to vote. | |
| Your right to vote. | |
| And that's really CC what we're fighting for here. | |
| Absolutely. | |
| The fact that a Secretary of State can decide that President Trump is not qualified to be on the ballot, he's not qualified candidate to be on the ballot, absolutely takes away my right to vote for him. | |
| If he's not on the ballot, I don't even get a chance to vote for him. | |
| And if you take away our right to vote, you have absolutely taken away the foundation of our constitutional republic. | |
| You have no constitutional republic if the right to vote is gone. | |
| And I think that's the fundamental issue that we're facing right here. | |
| So again, in context, what you've got is a court heard the case at the lower court level and said, you know, we think he did do an insurrection, but uh that clause, that disqualification clause doesn't apply to the presidency or the vice presidency because it only applies to officers of the United States or Senators or Congressmen, which he's not, and he's not an officer of the United States. | |
| So I guess for those who are listening, what's the path look like for it? | |
| Where does this go and what's the timeline? | |
| Well, so it went to the Colorado Supreme Court, and the Scout Colorado Supreme Court reversed the trial court and said, No, you can remove him from the ballot. | |
| So technically uh Trump uh President Trump is off the ballot, they stayed that opinion, meaning they said we're not going to enforce it if the parties, and the parties are President Donald Trump and the Colorado Republican State Central Committee, which is the Republican GOP, if we file a what's called a petition for certificate to the Supreme Court of the United States, which we did yesterday. | |
| So all that news you're seeing is the fact that the case is now before the Supreme Court of the United States. | |
| We even got a case number, it's case number two three six nine six, Colorado Republican State Central Committee versus Norma Anderson et al. | |
| And also uh the uh Jenna Greswald, who is the Secretary of State. | |
| So that case is now before the Supreme Court. | |
| And Logan, we also filed a motion to expedite here. | |
| Right. | |
| And I think that that's something that people need to understand that hopefully with that, that means this will get done fast. | |
| So it has to get done fast because the dilemma here is their primary is March 5th, it's super Tuesday. | |
| So if you've got a super Tuesday primary, if under the normal Supreme Court practice, we file a petition for surgery, the other side is 30 days to respond, then we get 15 days to respond to theirs, then it goes to a conference. | |
| Well, guess what's over with? | |
| The primary. | |
| What if they say no, though? | |
| Can they say no? | |
| Well, they can't the Supreme Court can say yes, cert denied. | |
| They could I don't think in a case like this they can. | |
| I mean, they could legally, yes. | |
| But they shouldn't. | |
| They really should not because as CC said it impacts every state. | |
| Everybody's looking at what happens here because there's fifteen states where this litigation is going on right now. | |
| Now, I will say we've won all of those. | |
| This is the only one that's been adverse in this way to the Supreme Court. | |
| This would overstep the state. | |
| We've learned a lot about state election laws. | |
| This would overstep that at the Supreme Court. | |
| Yes, the Supreme Court, if they grant, review, and rule in our favor, they would be saying to Colorado, you don't get to make the qualification issue You and every and other left the other. | |
| And any other state, that's a federal decision. | |
| Right. | |
| And that is the issue because there are pending cases in different states where people are watching, state secretaries of states are watching to see what's going to happen here because you know they want to take Trump off the ballot just like Colorado has done. | |
| In fifteen states, California's lieutenant governor. | |
| You remember that one, Logan. | |
| What was the story there? | |
| The lieutenant governor asked for it to be removed. | |
| In California, yeah, I think after Colorado happened, the Lieutenant Governor sent essentially a what would be a demand letter almost to the governor saying, Hey, can you make sure you explore everything we can to follow Colorado suit to get President Trump removed from the ballot? | |
| And Gavin Newsom, to his credit, said that's not how we do things in this country, much less in California. | |
| Yeah, in other words, we don't take candidates. | |
| I mean, the parties nominate the candidates. | |
| We we represent the party here. | |
| President Trump's lawyers will be filing, I'm sure in the next couple of days, uh, their petition as well. | |
| But what's important to understand is what I'm gonna follow up when CC said. | |
| I want our audience to understand this, especially the listeners of this broadcast on the Hannity program. | |
| Folks, this affects everybody's right to vote. | |
| Whoever you want to vote for. | |
| The fact is you get to put up candidates of your choice. | |
| And those candidates, once nominated, somebody's to become the victor. | |
| So the reason this needs to move expedited, and we'll get into more of the expedite in the kind of the back half hour of this broadcast, because this is complicated, but everybody and this is one Supreme Court of many we're talking about. | |
| The reason it has to get expedited is there is a cloud, and I think this is a fair way of looking at this. | |
| Imagine if you were the candidate, you were running for president, and a court has already ruled you should be off the ballot, but it's going to be stayed. | |
| They're going to let you run on the ballot while the Supreme Court decides what they're going to do. | |
| What does that say in the back of the mind of ever of a lot of voters? | |
| Gee, if I vote for this candidate, I can maybe wasting my vote here because he or she may be removed from the ballot. | |
| Right. | |
| Do I vote for him? | |
| Don't I vote for him? | |
| Is he going to be qualified? | |
| Is he going to be on the ballot? | |
| Am I wasting my vote? | |
| It's it literally takes away your right to vote. | |
| So we have filed the petition for search right at the Supreme Court of the United States, and then we also filed today our motion to expedite review. | |
| Now, what that means is if it was under the normal course of this, this thing would not be argued until October of next year of this coming year of 2024. | |
| Well, the general elections November, was it the fifth this year? | |
| I think yeah. | |
| So it's you'd be you wouldn't get an opinion before we be, it would be meaningless. | |
| So the court not only has to resolve it, they got to resolve it quickly. | |
| And interestingly, and I'll get more into this, the other side filed a motion saying, yeah, we think you need to do this expeditiously. | |
| So they want it reviewed too. | |
| Yeah, and I think that's unusual. | |
| Well, what if you're the other I'm just curious of a political standpoint for the other candidates who are currently running? | |
| Yep. | |
| Obviously, there's this point for just being honest and brokers, then the most of them have no chance. | |
| But does this situation come up? | |
| How do you navigate this? | |
| Because do you go, oh well, we can get President Trump thrown off a ballot. | |
| Now we know people like uh Vivek who said, Hey, I think I want my own name pulled off the ballot of his name pulled off the ballot. | |
| Yeah. | |
| And kind of challenged everybody to it, but it does put it into a political spin that's a bit different uh because obviously you're always looking for a weakness if you're an opposing candidate. | |
| Uh but this could easily happen to them before. | |
| I think so dangerous if any one of these candidates, and I I can't see it happening, Nikki Haley of the City. | |
| Yeah, they have. | |
| And they've all said You can't do that. | |
| Yeah. | |
| No, we've checked that. | |
| They can't and the reason is if if it could happen to them, or it happened to Trump, it could happen to them. | |
| Yeah. | |
| I mean, we put in we pointed out on our brief, and I think this is you know pretty interesting. | |
| We pointed out in our brief, you know, if Colorado takes Trump off the ballot with their procedure, which is no procedure, and the people in Texas say, you know, we're we we're getting invaded here out of our southern border. | |
| Our our our border towns are out of control. | |
| We think that the president is g the president Biden's guilty of dereliction of duty. | |
| We're not putting him on the ballot. | |
| You know what my answer would be with that? | |
| Sorry, Texas, you don't get to make that decision. | |
| The Democratic Party, the Democrat Party of Texas makes that decision, not you. | |
| It's actually pretty interesting. | |
| I was looking at Ron DeSantis' statement. | |
| His statement was more about how this is a stunt by the Democrats to ensure Donald Trump is the nominee. | |
| Well, that's because you know they there's That's a nice thing for him to say. | |
| Well, look, I mean, I think Donald Trump's ahead in Iowa by what? | |
| Is it 30 or 40 points? | |
| New Hampshire may be a little bit closer. | |
| I I think Republicans make a big concern. | |
| Listen, we're conservative constitutionalists. | |
| What does that mean? | |
| We go by the law. | |
| Texas can't remove uh Biden from the ballot, and Colorado can't remove Trump by the ballot. | |
| Because folks, if it's good for the goose, you said this on our broadcast. | |
| That's right. | |
| CC said that we have a broadcast called secular, it's noon Eastern time. | |
| Um and you said that on our broadcast today. | |
| If it was good for the goose, it's good for the gander. | |
| That's right. | |
| And I think what they're doing right now is what's good for the goose is not good for the gander, but they have to understand if this gets passed, that's not the way that saying goes. | |
| What's good for the goose is good for the gander, and just like you said, Biden could get thrown off then by conservative secretaries of states. | |
| This is ridiculous. | |
| The 14th Amendment is not self-executing. | |
| You can't just decide that someone doesn't get to be on the ballot. | |
| I could summarize if I can. | |
| Let me Logan, I think this would be helpful. | |
| Let me read something from our argument that puts this in a historical context. | |
| Because I think history here is important. | |
| People need to understand the history. | |
| So let me let me let me read it. | |
| This is out of our argument uh that we filed with the Supreme Court in our motion to why this needs to be expedited, but it was also in our petition for review. | |
| That's called the petition for Surcheroid. | |
| For the first time in American history, a former president has been disqualified from the ballot. | |
| A political party has been denied the opportunity to put forward the presidential candidate of its choice, and the voters have been denied the ability to choose their chief executive through the electoral process. | |
| This unprecedented decision urgently merits this court's review to prevent, quote, the potential chaos wrought by an imprudent, unconstitutional, and standardless system in which each state gets to adjudicate Section 3. | |
| That's the 14th Amendment's disqualification cases on an ad hoc basis. | |
| Surely, this enlargement of state powers is antithetical to the framers' intent. | |
| Who said that? | |
| A justice of the Colorado Supreme Court, Justice Samore, a Democratic appointee who said we were right, and the Colorado majority was wrong. | |
| But he called he's the one who said chaos wrought by imprudent, unconstitutional, and a standardless system. | |
| Yeah, I think that that's true. | |
| Look, we only have a couple minutes before we go to break here, but I also want to make sure we tell you a little bit more about the ACLJ and the work we're doing. | |
| So American Center for Law and Justice is a public interest law firm. | |
| We handle cases from elections to religious liberty to First Amendment to pro-life issues. | |
| We are now handling this case for we represent 15 different GOP groups throughout the country in this litigation, so that President Trump is not removed from the ballot. | |
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| And a lot, I need to say this, Logan. | |
| A lot of the folks on Hannity have joined with us and become part of the ACLJ team, which we really appreciate. | |
| And we are uh when I say donor supporters so you can imagine the last three days of December, the most important, the most important time for our work at the American Center for Law and Justice. | |
| So I I want to ask you to do something if you're able to do it, and that is support our work. | |
| You just go to ACLJ.org. | |
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| If you donated $50, we get 150. | |
| So this is, I mean, very, very significant for us as to the support work of the ACLJ. | |
| So that's a great way for people to support us at ACLJ.org. | |
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| Triple match, go to ACLJ.org. | |
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| Hey, welcome back to Hannity. | |
| This is Jay Sekulow. | |
| Logan Sekulow is here with me. | |
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| As I said in the last uh segment of the broadcast, I'm the Chief Counsel of the American Center for Law and Justice. | |
| We've been able to uh guest host for Sean uh numerous times this year, which we really appreciate. | |
| If you're watching the news right now, we're in it, and that's because as I said, we're representing the uh when I say we, it's the American Center for Law and Justice, is representing the Colorado Republican Party. | |
| And we're representing the Republican Party in a challenge that has been made where there was an attempt to take the uh former president off the ballot in Colorado, and then 15 other states got involved in this. | |
| So we had this kind of mass uh movement to remove the former president from the ballot. | |
| We say that violates the Constitution. | |
| We your right to vote specifically. | |
| We filed yesterday with the Supreme Court of the United States a petition for surchary. | |
| As I said, that is the request for review. | |
| We filed today a motion to expedite that review. | |
| Uh and then the other side responded saying, uh just uh within the last two hours, saying, you know what? | |
| The Colorado Republican Party's right. | |
| They need to you need to expedite and review this. | |
| And in fact, they're calling for oral argument to take place. | |
| I don't know if this is gonna happen, Logan. | |
| They're calling for oral argument to take place January 19th. | |
| So get done pretty quick. | |
| Really quick. | |
| I've had that happen before in cases. | |
| I've done uh two dozen cases at the Supreme Court, but this would be this is the most significant case we've ever handled because the right to vote is so sacred in our Constitutional Republic. | |
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| Welcome back to Hannity. | |
| This is Logan Seculo in the studio, also Jay Seculow, CC Heil. | |
| We do have a special guest also joining us for this segment of Handy. | |
| So we've been talking about this Colorado case, not the Supreme Court to keep Trump on the ballot. | |
| Uh Dave Williams is the chairman of the Colorado GOP, technically called the Colorado Republican State Central Committee. | |
| Dave, welcome to Hannity. | |
| You and I talked last night, obviously big news here, and it is literally all over the news. | |
| But I think it's important, Dave, for you to set for the listener, for our audience here at Hannity, why you made this move. | |
| What was the concern you had in Colorado as you saw this lawsuit being filed? | |
| You bet. | |
| In a lot of ways, and I've said this from the very beginning, this is bigger than Donald Trump. | |
| This this strikes very heart of the foundations that underpin our government. | |
| Uh we have the right to vote for who we want to vote for, and the party specifically has a right to nominate and associate with whoever think best represent their party in its platform. | |
| So we wanted to work with you and your organization to ensure that we protected those rights because they are a violation of our first amendment. | |
| You said something important. | |
| I think it's important for people to understand, and it's not just the Donald Trump being on the ballot, but it's any candidate that the GOP that you all, or the Democrat for that matter, want to put forward as a candidate, you should not have a Secretary of State just on their own or through some, you know, four-day hearing, decide someone's disqualified from running for president. | |
| Yeah, absolutely. | |
| It's it's very problematic uh when you have either an elected Democrat or an elected member of the opposition party dictating which candidates are going to be appropriate for your nominating contest. | |
| Uh this is something that we can't allow. | |
| We have to fight back against it, and uh, we're gonna do whatever we can to make sure that Americans, whether they be in Colorado or across the country, have the right, uh, continue to have the right to vote for whoever they want and political parties have the right to nominate who they think is best. | |
| It's interesting because I said in in our brief at the request for review to the Supreme Court, which is called the petition for search right. | |
| I said, you know, if Colorado has the authority to take Trump off the ballot just because they decide he engaged in insurrection, never charged with insurrection, never convicted of insurrection. | |
| The only time insurrection came up was when he was impeached for insurrection, in which he was found acquitted, not guilty. | |
| So if they did that in Colorado to the Republican, then what stops in Texas? | |
| The the Secretary of State there saying, you know, Joe Biden's doing nothing to help us on the border. | |
| We've got sex trafficking, we got drugs all over the place. | |
| People are dying of fentanyl overdoses. | |
| We're gonna take him off the ballot because he's you know dereliction of duty. | |
| And I would say in both circumstances, CC, that they can't do that. | |
| The Democrat Party has the right to put up their candidate, the Republicans have the right to put up their candidate. | |
| Absolutely. | |
| And again, if if it's not going to be for Trump, you know, if Trump can't get on the ballot, then Biden can't either. | |
| If a Secretary of State gets to just independently make the decision that someone has committed insurrection when they haven't been charged with it, when they haven't been convicted of it, that gives one person the ability to pull someone off the ballot. | |
| It takes away the GOP's ability to nominate them, and it takes away the Americans' ability to vote for them. | |
| Well, and I want to focus on that, Dave, because it does what you're doing here is protecting, and we're doing at the ACLJ for you at the legal side, but your initiative here is to protect the right to vote, which is what's really being attacked here. | |
| Exactly. | |
| It's percent. | |
| This is this is what we need to be doing uh, regardless of the political party that we might be a part of or the ideal ideology that we subscribe to. | |
| I think everyone should agree that America is based on this notion that you get to vote for whoever you think will best represent your interests in government, and that the majority rules in those elections. | |
| If we don't have the ability to vote for those candidates who we deem appropriate, then we really don't have free and fair elections, and that's something that we all need to stand uh against and and and uh obviously protect our ability to do that. | |
| One of the things I think we haven't brought up yet is how we got to this point where Colorado felt that it was justified to do this. | |
| How did it get brought up? | |
| How did This even get to the courts when it seems like mostly other than a couple kind of rogue judges here are vastly against it. | |
| Yeah, well, I mean, in the in the 14 other cases, the courts have dismissed these or ruled against the groups that brought it. | |
| But in Colorado, they were very strategic. | |
| You had these, you know, crew, left or center organization, wants Trump off the ballot. | |
| They consider him an existential political threat. | |
| And they picked a venue, to be honest, that was a friendly venue. | |
| Because Dave's done a great job with the GOP in Colorado. | |
| They just came up with the idea of, hey, we could do this. | |
| It was a, you know what I call these, these are professors' thoughts. | |
| A law professor thought, I know what we could do. | |
| Let's take Section 3, the 14th Amendment, which by the way, Logan, has not been into our audience, has not been applied since 1918. | |
| And the one time it was applied in 1918, they were trying to not see the socialist in the Congress. | |
| You know what the Supreme Court said unanimously? | |
| You can't do that. | |
| That's not the way it works. | |
| That's not insurrection. | |
| So what they did was they tried to find a friendly venue, and they found a friendly venue in Colorado. | |
| What they did not expect, I think, Dave, going back to you here, is that you all were going to put up such a big fight and actually intervene in this lawsuit. | |
| Yeah, I think that's absolutely correct. | |
| And you you saw it on your end when the uh Secretary of State, who was you know, obviously partisan and supports you know removing Donald Trump from the ballot. | |
| She she even uh uh resisted our intervention. | |
| Uh even though we we had every right to intervene, it affected our party. | |
| Uh they didn't want to they didn't want this to be uh or didn't want us to be a part of it, and I think it it speaks to um you know the fact that they know what they're doing is wrong, and every obstacle that we put forward uh is another obstacle that makes it less likely they're going to succeed. | |
| Yesterday the Michigan Supreme Court said now we're not even gonna hear this case, so we we're gonna affirm the lower court, which said nope, Trump stays on the ballot. | |
| The federal court that we handled in West Virginia ruled in favor um of our side. | |
| We represented the West Virginia GOP. | |
| That's now going to the first Fourth Circuit Court of Appeals in Oklahoma or anyways Oklahoma, they filed, and then as soon as we entered our appearance, uh they dismiss it. | |
| So, you know, the fact that the American Center for Law and Justice can work with people like David who heads up these state parties makes a big difference. | |
| Did I think it was going to be at the Supreme Court of the United States on you know December 28th? | |
| No, I didn't. | |
| I mean, but here it is. | |
| I mean, we're at the end of the year, and we are docketed. | |
| I mean, I give you the case number nine, it's 23, 696, Colorado Republican State Central Committee versus Norma Anderson and others, and includes the Secretary of State and these electors that brought this. | |
| And then interesting here, this today, and Logan, this is happening in and CC today, and for our audience, today, and the reason you're seeing it on all the news is the respondents, that's what the other sides called when you're at the Supreme Court, they filed a motion saying we don't disagree with the Colorado Republican Party. | |
| We think this thing needs to be heard in an expedited basis. | |
| And Dave, you wanted her to expedite it, because you're afraid this is putting a cloud over your primary elections. | |
| Yeah, absolutely. | |
| Uh we're we're in uncharted territory right now, and we want to get clarity, and we think that the Supreme Court is really the only um institution at this juncture that can set it straight and make everything right. | |
| They gotta overturn it, and we're hoping they take the case quickly. | |
| All right, Dave, we appreciate it. | |
| Thanks for your hard work. | |
| It's a pleasure working with you and representing you at now at the Supreme Court of the United States, Dave Williams, Colorado GOP, chair, technically the Colorado Republican State Central Committee. | |
| Dave, thanks for being on Hannity. | |
| What Dave just said is so critical here. | |
| We have the Supreme Court has not granted review yet. | |
| So we have just asked for review. | |
| But the other side has proposed in their motions that they've I don't think they're gonna file a brief in opposition to Sir Shorari. | |
| I think they're gonna file a we think the question should be ruled, you know, said differently. | |
| But what is so fascinating about it is they're on a briefing schedule that's gonna put this case at oral argument under their theory by January 19th. | |
| But that's because the primary is March 5th. | |
| That's right. | |
| And not only is the primary March 5th, then you have mail-in voting, you have early votes. | |
| So it's really it's happening quickly, and we need a decision very quickly. | |
| Yeah, so Colorado has, I mean, it's almost all mail-in balloting, and they think they start that February twelfth. | |
| So that starts a month before, uh, three weeks before the actual primary. | |
| So really the Supreme Court to get this done right needs to get it done right in the sense that they agree to hear the case and resolve it before the primary. | |
| If not, Trump stays on the ballot while they're considering it, but there is this cloud, and then the question becomes they gotta decide it by the end of June, because if it goes longer than that, they don't come back until October. | |
| That would be a month before the general election. | |
| That's right. | |
| Questions keep coming up. | |
| We've had this specifically on our secular broadcast over and over again, which is well, why don't we just write them in? | |
| Be right in ballots. | |
| I write in every time. | |
| It's a little bit different. | |
| Well, they're gonna because under the Supreme Court of Colorado's current opinion, those write-in ballots will not count. | |
| Yeah, they get thrown out. | |
| It's not about it's actually not about physically appearing on the ballots much as being qualified to serve as president. | |
| Correct. | |
| So what happens is by the law, legally. | |
| Yes, and so what happens, and this is important. | |
| So what happens is there is no way around this in that sense. | |
| You're either on the ballot or you're not on the ballot, and writing in doesn't do anything here. | |
| And the fact that you've got I mean, people would still do it. | |
| We've got to win this, folks, at the Supreme Court of the United States. | |
| It is there. | |
| I can't imagine a scenario where they don't take these cases. | |
| I think they have to take these cases. | |
| There's too much at stake for the American people. | |
| Folks, this is the fundamental aspect. | |
| We talk about all these constitutional liberties freedom of speech, freedom of religion, petitioning your government for redress of grievance, all of these issues are so important. | |
| If you don't have the right to vote for the candidate of your choice, none of that matters. | |
| You have no constitutional republic if you cannot vote for the candidate of your choice. | |
| Period. | |
| Doesn't mean that candidate wins. | |
| Doesn't mean other people are going to disagree with who you think that they think the candidate should be. | |
| Everybody that's entitled to vote should be able to vote. | |
| Here's the problem. | |
| The way they've done this, they have eliminated the right of the citizens of the United States to actually vote for the candidate of their choice. | |
| And it's important. | |
| We're saying Colorado, Colorado, Colorado. | |
| It is fifteen states today. | |
| I guarantee you, by the first of the year in a in a less than a week, it'll be twenty. | |
| Absolutely. | |
| And they're still pending cases for on this 14th Amendment in Alaska, Arizona, Nevada, New Mexico, New York, South Carolina, Texas, Vermont, and Wisconsin. | |
| So this has been reaching ramifications. | |
| It needs to be decided. | |
| It needs to be decided quickly. | |
| Yeah, I mean, folks, it's this should move at lightning speed. | |
| So at the end of the day, and this is just one case. | |
| I'm going to get into these other, you know, you got this whole presidential immunity case and Jack Smith trying to say, don't let Trump speak about politics in the courtroom and get in that in the next hour of the broadcast. | |
| But this is why you gotta fight. | |
| Because what happens at the Supreme Court is going to affect everybody in the United States. | |
| The entire country. | |
| Yeah, and we have to be on the front lines of helping out here and being part of the solution when you see these kind of problems. | |
| A lot of people, like I told you, I was in uh Orlando, Florida, one of the theme parks when this all broke when the President Trump officially declared not being able to be on the ballot, and I could just I could hear it. | |
| You know, you you'd be sitting in a restaurant or you'd be walking around amusement park and you'd hear all of a sudden like a pocket of people. | |
| Do you see what's going on in Colorado? | |
| Have you heard what's happening? | |
| Because obviously it's happening in the state of Florida. | |
| These are tourists from all over the world, all over the country, but they're all getting uh the news notifications on their phone. | |
| And of course, all of them are texting us going, is this gonna happen? | |
| Is it real? | |
| What happens? | |
| You know, because we're all a little desensitized to the realities of it, but sadly, as of right now, it's the reality. | |
| I am holding in my hand. | |
| You could hear it on radio. | |
| The petition for surgery in case number 23696, Colorado Republican State Central Committee, that's our client versus Norma Anderson. | |
| It is now at the Supreme Court in the United States with the motion to expedite. | |
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| We're not going to stop, folks. | |
| It's at the Supreme Court on a speed uh speed track right now. | |
| It's gonna be very quick. | |
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| Uh, We just got this. | |
| Colorado Secretary of State has now confirmed that since we filed yesterday that Donald Trump's name will appear on the ballot for the primary set for March 5th. | |
| So that just came in. | |
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