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Dec. 22, 2023 - Sean Hannity Show
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Colorado vs. Constitution - December 21st, Hour 2
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Just to go through our bios really quick so you could re-familiarize yourself with us because I know we're on as guests a lot.
But hey, we're now hosting and God knows who actually approved this.
But I am a columnist for The Messenger and a best-selling author of the book Come On Man.
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Let us bring in, by the way, Mr. Greg Jarrett.
He is a Fox News legal analyst and host of The Brief, another great podcast, and author of The Constitution of the United States and other patriotic documents collected and explained by Greg Jarrett.
And he has a great new column out on the miscarriage of justice happening in Colorado.
Greg Jarrett, thanks for coming on.
Hey, good to be with you, Joe and Carol.
You know, happy, Merry Christmas, happy holidays.
Absolutely.
In your piece, and you write on thegregjarred.com about, and the title of the piece is Colorado Gets It Wrong by Kicking Trump Off Its Presidential Ballot.
And at one point, you say that the justices there, and again, these are all Democratic justices, many Ivy League educated, that the justices had to mangle Section 3 of that esteemed amendment, the amendment being the 14th Amendment, which was adopted in 1868, has never been used in a situation like this.
So how did they mangle it?
How did they get here?
And how ultimately is the Supreme Court going to rule on this?
Well, it should be nine to nothing to reverse by the Supreme Court.
And frankly, they should be able to do it in pretty short order.
This was a narrow decision by a stacked Colorado Supreme Court, all appointed by Democratic governors.
And, you know, they got it fundamentally wrong.
The insurrection clause in the 14th Amendment doesn't apply to the facts here.
The clause was intended to prevent Confederates who took up arms against the government during the Civil War from holding office.
And now it is being contorted and twisted by this high court in Colorado to use against Donald Trump to kick him off the ballot.
You know, the problem is that, you know, Trump is not charged with insurrection.
He hasn't been tried or convicted.
To use insurrection to remove him violates the very amendment, the 14th Amendment, that guarantees due process.
He hasn't received a trial on the issue of insurrection.
And he hasn't been charged with it by Jack Smith's special counsel because the facts never supported it.
You go back to January 6th, and he's urging his supporters out of the National Mall to march down to the Capitol and let their voices be heard.
And he cautioned them to do so peacefully.
So that's clearly not insurrection.
Yeah, Greg, obviously, one of the things we're doing with our show today is we're doing this in honor of Festivus, and we're airing our grievances.
And one of my grievances is with that word insurrection.
I saw something recently.
Someone made the point that you don't actually have to change the law if you change the language, because if you change the language, that in and of itself shifts the law.
And it all seems very almost, you know, Orwellian 1984 kind of stuff.
Do you think that's what is at the core here?
Are they trying to just change the wording and be able to mold and shift the law?
Or is there something else that you think is behind what's going on here?
Well, this is an effort by them to rig the ballot box under the guise of preserving and protecting democracy.
What they're actually doing is attacking the democratic process, which ultimately, in a constitutional republic based on democratic principles, means that citizens choose our leaders by casting their ballots.
You know, depriving them of this right is to really undermine the fabric of our nation.
But there's another thing that's at play here, as I point out on my column.
When you read the section 3, the insurrection clause, it specifically excludes the president of the United States.
It identifies the officers of the U.S. who can be prevented from appearing on ballots.
And it says right there that a senator or representative in Congress or elector of president or vice president, the president is not enumerated.
Why?
He takes an oath of office that's different than officers who take an oath.
So it doesn't even apply when you use the strict language of the 14th Amendment.
And we're talking to Greg Jarrett, Fox News legal analyst.
Greg, I'm curious, if the Supreme Court comes back 9-0 is what you say, and Jonathan Turley says that as well.
Ty Cobb, Donald Trump, one of his ex-lawyers, believes the same thing.
Even if it comes back 6-3 along party lines, so to speak, does that ruling effectively end all the other efforts that we see in states like the states that matter, by the way, because Trump lost by 14 points in Colorado?
But will it end the effort in Michigan, for example, in Wisconsin, in Nevada, in states that can help decide this election?
Because they'll say, well, it's going to go to the Supreme Court anyway, so why bother?
Or do they continue the effort because that hurts Trump politically somehow?
It should end the effort.
If you make a ruling that's broad enough and clear enough that affects the state of Colorado, it should be binding on all other states.
That doesn't mean that some clever lawyers will try to circumvent it by finding a different route to challenge it in state courts, citing, for example, different language in state laws that isn't encompassed by the Supreme Court ruling.
So a lot depends on what the Supreme Court does and how they say it in their ruling.
Yeah, you know, it's interesting, Greg.
You mentioned that this really is part of the Democratic playbook.
They're using the guise of democracy to really enact fascism.
You know, they want to talk about insurrections.
This seems like a political coup.
They're trying to use the courts and they're trying to use the political system to keep an opponent off the ballot, which is just completely frustrating.
If they fail in this endeavor, and you say they're not going to come back and try and do this in the swing states, what's next, do you think, in their bag of tricks?
Well, I think they'll try everything that they can possibly conjure up.
I have written extensively and talked on air about how these four different indictments against Donald Trump were time to interfere in the election.
They waited more than two years to bring the indictments so that the trials themselves would happen exactly during the primary season and ultimately the November 5th presidential election.
This is an attempt to influence the election by harming Trump.
And what's so interesting is that it's had the opposite effect, a boomerang effect.
People see it for what it is, politically driven.
And the more times they do this and indict Trump, the more his support rises in the polls and the more his campaign contributions also rise.
And so, you know, Americans are having none of this.
And I'm actually encouraged that they see these political machinations by Democrats.
The other thing here is, you know, this is such a slippery slope.
If Democrats can get away with this, that invites Republicans to do the same thing against Joe Biden or any other future Democrat nominee.
You don't want to go there.
And that's what these banana republics do.
They ban people from being eligible for high public office.
That's one way to get rid of your political opponent.
And it's the stuff of tyranny and dictators.
We don't want to go there in our constitutional republic.
I write about this in my book, The Constitution and other patriotic documents.
And what a book that is, by the way.
I have it on my desk in my studio, TV studio at home.
And it's just amazing.
Some of the documents that you uncovered there, Greg.
Just tell us a little bit about it.
And what's something unique that somebody can learn in the book that they otherwise would not by not reading it?
Well, it's really a tribute to the many patriots who made America great.
We are, without a doubt, this luminous beacon of hope for liberty, prosperity, and justice throughout the world.
And so you can read our nation's most important documents and speeches and letters and addresses.
And they really are, I know you've been reading it, Joe, that they're inspiring words and galvanizing ideas.
They shaped this wonderful country of ours, our virtues and aspirations and ideals.
And, you know, one of the things I think you'll find in there, there are many documents, but for example, Albert Einstein sent a secret letter to FDR warning him that the Nazis were attempting to develop this new and frighteningly powerful weapon, an atomic bomb.
And, you know, his warning to FDR triggered the covert operation for the U.S. to build its own weapon in the highly classified Manhattan Project.
One of the many nuggets that Americans have either forgotten or never knew about.
And the book is filled with those.
That's right.
And the movie Oppenheimer, that was the whole reason why Oppenheimer was tapping the U.S. government in order to beat the Nazis to building the bomb, because if they had that, then they would basically hold the world hostage.
But anyway, you know, it's the Christmas season, Greg and Carol.
And, you know, we've talked about some very serious stuff, and rightly so.
It is the story of the week.
But Carol, I believe you have some questions for Greg.
Yes.
Now, obviously, we want everyone to go out and get Greg's book, and we appreciate your expert insight here, Greg.
But we do have one very important question where we desperately need your expert insight because we are putting together a list for the end of the show.
So we need to know what is the best Christmas movie of all time.
Yes.
You know, my daughters are here with us.
We just finished watching The Holiday with Kate Winslet.
Oh.
Oh.
Cameron Diaz, who we're talking about later in the show.
Yeah, Jack Black.
I mean, what a great movie.
My favorite holiday is It's a Wonderful Life.
I know some people hate it, but if you only knew the backstory about Jimmy Stewart and how he came back from World War II with PTSD, he was an aviator, and his career was finished.
And Frank Capra, the great director, wanted to rescue Jimmy Stewart because he loved him, and he convinced him to take this role.
And when you see Jimmy Stewart so depressed and anxious and really out of his mind in that movie, he's really emoting the feelings that he experienced during World War II and the trauma he suffered by losing so many of his friends whose planes went down.
And, you know, it's just a wonderful story to me.
And every time, you know, when Clarence gets his wings at the end, you know, I cry like a baby.
I've seen it a hundred times.
I cry every day.
You sound like you're about to go now, Greg.
It's a wonderful life.
It's just, it's a wonderful movie.
It's a wonderful life.
That sounds like perhaps a future topic that you should cover in a book, Greg, because you did such a great job of drawing us into that story.
So think about that.
Thank you very much.
And to my Constitution book, Buy Two and Give One to Your Child's Teacher.
Don't teach civics the way they should in America today, which is why I wrote the book.
That is genius.
Once again, the name of that book is The Constitution of the United States and other patriotic documents collected and explained by Greg Jared.
Absolutely.
Give it to your kids, give it to your relatives, and most importantly, give it to teachers out there because this is the blocking and tackling we should be teaching in our schools and not about sexual orientation and gender identification.
Greg Jared, thanks so much.
Merry Christmas, my friend.
And the same to both of you.
Thanks very much.
See, now I was about to go off on it's a wonderful life because it depresses me for 99% of the movie.
And now I can't because now I know the backstory.
And now I can't even make my argument for diehard.
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What I told people I was making a podcast about Benghazi, nine times out of ten, they called me a masochist, rolled their eyes, or just asked, why?
Benghazi, the truth became a web of lies.
It's almost a dirty word, one that connotes conspiracy theory.
Will we ever get the truth about the Benghazi massacre?
Bad faith, political warfare, and frankly, bullshit.
We kill the ambassador just to cover something up.
You put two and two together.
Was it an overblown distraction or a sinister conspiracy?
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Hey there, I'm Mary Catherine Hamm.
And I'm Carol Markowitz.
We've been in political media for a long time.
Long enough to know that it's gotten, well, a little insane.
That's why we started Normally, a podcast for people who are over the hysteria and just want clarity.
We talk about the issues that actually matter to the country without panic, without yelling, and with a healthy dose of humor.
We don't take ourselves too seriously, but we do take the truth seriously.
So if you're into common sense, sanity, and some occasional sass.
You're our kind of people.
Catch new episodes of Normally every Tuesday and Thursday.
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And I'm Ted Cruz.
Three times a week, we do our podcast, Verdict with Ted Cruz.
Nationwide, we have millions of listeners.
Every Monday, Wednesday, and Friday, we break down the news and bring you behind the scenes inside the White House, inside the Senate, inside the United States Supreme Court.
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What I told people I was making a podcast about Benghazi, nine times out of ten, they called me a masochist, rolled their eyes, or just asked, why?
Benghazi, the truth became a web of lies.
It's almost a dirty word, one that connotes conspiracy theory.
Will we ever get the truth about the Benghazi massacre?
Bad faith, political warfare, and frankly, bullshit.
We kill the ambassador just to cover something up.
You put two and two together.
Was it an overblown distraction or a sinister conspiracy?
Benghazi is a Rosetta Stone for everything that's been going on for the last 20 years.
I'm Leon Nafok from Prologue Projects and Pushkin Industries.
This is Fiasco, Benghazi.
What difference at this point does it make?
Yes, that's right.
Lock her up.
Listen to Fiasco, Benghazi, on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
Welcome back to the Sean Hannity Show.
Joe Concha, Carol Roth, in for Mr. Hannity, 800-941-7326-800-941-S-E-A-N.
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Carol, what do we got coming up?
Well, our show today is dedicated to the airing of the grievances, but we're going to go into a little bit of fun like we like to have Sean.
Joe, I'm calling you Sean now.
Greg Jared, who just joined us, was talking about a movie, The Holiday with Cameron Diaz as one of the stars.
And we're going to find out why Cameron Diaz does not want to sleep with you or her husband for that matter.
That is actually in the same bed with her husband.
So I think that you're going to want to stick around and find out what that's all about.
It's a hot news.
And then you know that people are struggling.
In Gen Z, they're having a hard time affording homes and affording colleges, but they have this all figured out and it is being led by young women under something called girl math.
Girl math.
Yes, the young people who brought us everything from quiet quitting to soft saving.
They now have invented girl math.
So you're going to want to hear all about that and certainly a lot more that we have just ahead.
Plus, we're going to be putting together our list of best holiday movies.
Oh, when I get to talk diehard on the Sean Hannity show, nothing beats that, my friend.
Anyway, this is Joe Concha and Carol Roth in for Sean Hannity, back with so much more in just a moment.
Hey, welcome back to the Sean Hannity show.
Joe Concha in for Mr. Hannity, along with my special guest co-host, Carol Roth, who is with us.
We're both happily married and have been for some time.
And I wonder, Carol, as we switch gears here for a little bit as we head into this long holiday weekend, Cameron Diaz, who I may or may not have named my daughter after.
No, that's not true.
I wanted the alliteration.
Cameron, Concha, Irish, right?
It just, it's incredible.
And now the funny thing is, just to go off on a slight tangent, there are a lot of Camerons in my kids' school and they're all boys.
So the Cameron thing is now shifted as Linda shakes her head very decisively.
Is that true, Linda?
You want to join the show for a second?
Yeah, I mean, all the kids that name Cameron that my little guy knows, it's all little boys.
It's not little girls anymore.
Right.
Alex, same thing.
Alex is officially a girl name.
There are no more boy Alex's.
Anyway, Carol, before I could do this all day, believe me, we have now Ms. Diaz, who is somehow 51 years old.
I feel like I was just watching The Mask and there's something about Mary just yesterday.
She says, quote, we should normalize separate bedrooms.
Continuing.
To me, I would literally, I have my house, you have yours.
We have the family house in the middle.
That would be a nice little luxury to have.
I will go and sleep in my room.
You go sleep in your room.
I'm fine.
Carol Roth, are you behind Cameron Diaz on this front?
I love that we've hit all the hard-hitting grievances.
We've hit the economy.
We've hit the border.
We've hit the ridiculous, you know, Supreme Court ruling.
And now we are getting into the grievance about apparently that sleeping in the same bedroom is normal and not sleeping in the same bedroom should be normalized from Cameron Diaz.
I am not a fan of this.
Now, I should say you can do whatever it is that you want, but we don't need to normalize that.
If you want to do something different, we don't need to have a national conversation about that.
I like the opportunity to share a bed at bedtime with your long-term significant other, with my husband.
It is a nice time when you can have that pillow talk, when you get the little cuddling in, whatever else happens.
Obviously, we can't.
This is a family show, so we can't go into all of the benefits.
Is it cuddling or spooning?
I got to stop there.
Is it cuddling or spooning?
Where do you go with?
Oh, depth.
I mean, spooning is weird.
That's a word like moist.
No girl wants to talk about spooning.
Well, that's true.
Boy, Linda's laughing.
Yeah, just stop.
Just cuddling is cute.
It's soft.
It doesn't get weird and gross.
So, yeah.
So we have the cuddles.
Now, I do understand that some people have significant others that have snoring problems.
But if you have a snoring problem, you should get that addressed because that could be a major issue.
You could have sleep apnea.
You know, that's something you need to look into and find a solution to.
The solution isn't to move into another bedroom or another house.
And if you really don't like your spouse, that you don't want to spend time in the bedroom with them and you'd rather be in another house, that's like a whole other episode of Dr. Ruth or Dr. Phil that I don't know we have time for.
What about you, Joe?
Do you like the separate bedrooms?
Do you like Cameron Diaz?
What's your take here?
Well, I got to admit, you know, I do have a king bed.
There's one thing I've really invested in.
Greatly.
What a braggart.
You've got a king bed.
Look at you, fancy fans.
I look at it this way.
All right.
If I sleep seven hours a night, right?
And I do all the math on that.
Think of all the hours I'm in this one place.
If I'm going to really allocate and prioritize my money in the right direction, it's going to be in the best bed I could have, the best pillows I could possibly imagine, the down comforters, the fans, the noisemakers, white noise, mind you, all that stuff.
I need my sleep because like we talked about before, we all work multiple jobs at this point just to make ends meet as far as this economy is concerned.
So between me doing the Fox thing at all hours of the day, filling in here in the radio, writing my columns for themessenger.com, writing the best-selling book like you do, I got to get my six to seven hours sleep or you get a very cranky touch.
Now, all of that.
So what you're saying is in this economy, because you have the fancy king-size bed and the fancy down comforters and all those things that under Bidenomics, you can really only afford to have one of those.
Thank you.
And so that forces you to be in the same, it's an economic decision more than anything else.
Is that what you're trying to tell us?
The power of deduction.
No, I'm saying that a king bed, that once you experience the king bed, it's like being in a separate room if you really wanted to, right?
I build a like a mountain of pillows right in the middle.
All right.
She ain't coming over there.
I ain't going over there.
And we're very happy about that unless we choose to do that for some other sort of activity or exercise.
Now, all that said, if you're Benji Madden and who is Benji Madden, that is Cameron Diaz's husband.
How do you think he feels about this?
Like, you know, we can live in separate houses.
I don't want you anywhere near me.
I have a feeling we're going to be hearing about Splitsville for Cameron Diaz and Benji Madden within the next year.
That's my 2024 prediction.
That's terrible.
He's a musician.
Maybe he's up making the beats.
Maybe he's making the beats in the bed with his snoring and whoever knows what maybe that's the reason he needs this.
But I'm just more hung up on the fact that in this economy that you just felt the need to brag to America about your fancy king size bed.
Because you know what, Joe?
Not everybody can afford a king size bed.
All right.
Let me just also say that I have an Acura.
That's a 2006 Acura TL where the seats are literally peeling off and we just hit the 200,000 mile mark.
So congratulations to me.
Car isn't a priority.
That is.
That's all I'm saying.
That's all I'm saying, Carol.
That's what I'm talking about.
Well, as we talk more about grievances of finances, as we noted, the consumer is having a really difficult time.
People are having a hard time making ends meet.
But Gen Z has tried to figure out a way to bring this all together, particularly around this time of year.
This is, by the way, the same group that's come up with these really great things like quiet quitting, which is basically just not working very hard.
Soft saving, which is not saving.
YOLO, we'll just do it later.
And lazy girl jobs, which is, yeah, I'll get a job that pays me a ton of money and not really do much with it.
Now they have something that is called girl math.
And as a female who can put together a very mean Excel model, I'm a recovering investment banker.
I take a little bit of offense to the title.
But let's listen to one TikToker explain to us what girl math is so we can get our heads wrapped around it.
I think that is SOT 6.
Here's a list of things I firmly believe because of girl math.
Anything under $5 is free.
Anything I buy with a gift card is free.
If I buy something, but then I return it, I've made money.
Going to an event or a concert is free because I purchased the tickets so long ago, it like doesn't even count.
I load my Starbucks app in advance, so Starbucks is free.
Anything discounted more than 50% is free and I like am losing money by not getting it.
If I'm like paying someone back for dinner and I have money in Venmo, that dinner is free.
If I don't buy something, like if I don't buy a pair of shorts for $50, like I've made $50 and I can then go spend $50 on something else.
Wow.
This one's a little bit weird, but my husband and I share credit cards and a bank account, but somehow every time that he puts down his card with his name on it, like that's free and he paid.
$2.50 divided by $25 a week.
Yep.
Potentially.
You'll wear it way more than 10 times.
So $5 a week for 20 minutes.
If you forfeit your coffee every time you wear that, then it's basically free.
So I bought this purse for $38, which means it was $30.
I spent $200 at one store, but all the other stores we walked into, I didn't buy anything.
So when you spread it out, that was good.
You saved money.
I saved money.
We went to Sephora and the lady at the cash said that if I spend $20, then I get 500 points, which is $10 off my next purchase.
So I made money.
I bought $20 in scratch tickets and I won $70.
So I made $70.
Yeah, you made $70, not $50.
This is girl math.
Girl math.
My brain hurts just from hearing that.
I mean, if you buy something for $100 at a 20% discount, you are now saving money instead of spending $80.
This is girl math.
And I have to give props to Sean, one of Sean's producers, Ethan, who came up with this tie-in because it was so genius.
But listening to all of those things that are free and how you make money, it sounds a lot like the Democrat math, doesn't it?
It's not girl math.
It's the entire Democratic Party's math.
That's true, right?
That, hey, we're bringing spending down from the all-time highs that we set it at, or inflation is down from an all-time high, even though it's still higher than it was when we took office.
Gas prices are down, they're not as low as they were when Trump was in office, but they're down from the place that we put it in in the first place.
You're right.
That's just insane.
I mean, I don't even know what to what I could say here.
Sometimes I wish I was an octopus so I could slap all eight of those people that we had on that particular sound.
But Ethan, could you no slap?
That's probably a long word.
You know what I mean?
Slap some sense into them.
Ethan, just play the first 10 seconds of that bite again.
These are looks at things I firmly believe because of girl math.
Anything under $5 is free.
Anything I buy with a gift card is free.
If I buy something, but then I return it, I've made money.
Going to an event or a concert is free.
Okay.
So imagine being this person's husband, right?
And you're having it trying to have a dinner conversation with her, like across the table.
What would you like for dinner tonight?
I've been thinking that we could watch a movie and it will be free.
And then it will be, I mean, boy, she doesn't really change any inflection or tone there, doesn't she, Carol?
No, this is the way that she talks and she wants to have girl math and everything that she eats is going to be free and it's going to be amazing.
And I don't know why you're looking at me that way.
No, it's absolutely this.
This is, you know, this is what's teaching finance to a new generation.
This is what the Chinese government is doing to us with TikTok: they're taking this and they're putting it out so that people are getting financial lessons that, like, oh, if it's under $5, it's free.
If I bought something and returned it, I've made money.
If I've spent, you know, $80 instead of $100, I've made $80.
This is a, you know, one-way ticket to bankruptcy.
And this is why all of those buy-now pay later services and all these, you know, interesting financial tools that they're coming up with, they're preying on things like girl math, which I'm just, I cannot believe this is where our country stands right now.
I mean, no wonder we're the laughing stock of the world.
We're the total laughing stock of the world.
You can see these people probably saying to themselves, I'm not crazy.
The voices tell me inside my head that I'm entirely sane.
You know, I mean, this is just, I weep for the future, to quote Ferris Mueller.
And it's a self-reinforcing process.
You know, it's not like there's one of, I mean, this didn't become a big news story because one random person on TikTok is saying this.
This is like a whole big trend where a whole bunch of people have now convinced themselves of an alternate reality.
Again, very much like the Democratic Party.
And I actually think, Joe, as we're airing our grievances here in, you know, in celebration of Festivus, that the decoupling from reality is the biggest issue that's facing our country.
Whether it's about the border, whether it's about the economy, whether it's about anything that has gone sideways in this country is because we have indulged a bunch of people who don't believe in reality.
And we've gone, oh, that's cute or that's nice or that's funny.
Instead of going, no, you are decoupled from reality.
We need to bring sanity back.
So I think for 2024, we have to stop being nice and just say, we're not indulging this anymore.
We're not indulging the fantasy.
I just want to know why we spend so much time looking for intelligent life on other planets.
I'd be happy to find intelligent life here on Earth first after hearing that.
So, but I got to admit, though, I do engage in a little bit of girl math sometimes, you know, where I'll say, you know, I went to Arby's to get my steak instead of that fancy steakhouse down the block.
So I just saved $45.
So I guess I kind of do that to myself too, as well.
I think we all do it on some level, right?
Are you a closet purchaser, which is where you buy things and then you hide them in your closet so that your wife doesn't see them and you pretend that it didn't actually exist, but we all know once the statement comes that it does exist.
No, I think if I really were to psychoanalyze myself, we talked about before how I have all my Christmas shopping done.
I never sat foot in one mall, one store, period, which you admonished me and rightly so for not supporting my local small businesses.
So now I really feel like a complete douche at this point.
But the point is, Carol, that I do that, I think, in terms of shopping on Amazon because the money, it's like Vegas, where you sit down at the blackjack table.
It's chips.
It's not real money that you're playing with, except it is.
And Amazon's same thing.
It's you just do that one-click order and it goes through.
You don't feel that money coming out of your pocket when you just bought that ping-pong table.
It doesn't feel real, but it's coming at it.
You just don't, if I were to hand over cash every time I did an Amazon purchase and put on the table, I'd talk myself out of like 90% of them.
So I think that's why Amazon is so successful.
It just doesn't feel like you're actually spending money.
Yep.
This is what the casinos figured out a long time ago, first with the chips and then with the digital cards and the thought machine.
If you're not actually forking over something, you are not feeling the pain.
And unfortunately, that has got us in a record amount of credit card debt as well as a record amount of household debt.
Yeah, 1 trillion, I think we just passed in credit card debt, which is incredible.
Almost 1.1.
Yeah, but Vegas is the greatest invention ever in terms of the way they get people to spend money.
First of all, no clocks in the casinos, right?
There's no windows in the casinos.
You have no idea what time it is.
They pump in oxygen to keep you awake and they give you free alcohol so you get overserved and make bad decisions.
I mean, whoever thought of this, I know it's evil, but it is genius on some level.
It's girl math.
It's girl math.
They went to school.
They got an MDA in girl math.
They figured it out.
And now they're printing money hand over fist.
Indeed.
Hey, I've been promising phone calls.
800-941-7326-800-941.
Sean, we're going to get to your calls next on the Sean Hannity show.
Joe Concha, Carol Roth, and for Mr. Hannity, back with so much more in just a moment.
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Joe Concha, Carol Roth, and our producer, Linda, who we haven't really heard from all that much during this show.
Linda, any big plans for the holiday?
I'm going to try to take a break.
Yeah, you do work.
Quite hard.
You need a dang break.
Uh-huh.
I'm exhausted and I'm going to do whatever I can to avoid girl math and all the girls who do it.
I was going to ask you with girl math, that means if you take one day off, it equals three weeks off, which then doesn't count and you have to work three days.
When that girl was like, you know, essentially, like, if I spread it over the sweater and I like, don't get my coffee that way.
I'm like, what is what is actually happening?
Like, I'm getting that.
My head just hurts.
You could have a daughter.
You're still young enough to, you know, pump out, you know, a daughter or two, and then you end up having that in about 15, 20 years.
Listen, let me tell you something.
I got a 15-year-old daughter right now, and that's enough.
Thank you very much.
Merry Christmas, everyone.
She will not be, she will not be doing any girl math.
No, she will not.
Not over my Ted Pod.
You know what?
It's worse than Common Core math.
We thought Common Core was bad.
I did not even get started on that one.
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