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My name is Rose.
Hey Jeffrey, how's it going?
It's going very great, especially in the next several minutes here.
My congressman, whom I call my favorite member of Congress, just happens to be Pennsylvania's own Congressman Scott Perry, the outgoing chair of the Freedom Caucus, who has graced us with his presence today.
Hello there, my congressman.
How are you?
I'm well, Jeff and Rose.
I'm the one who's honored.
I'm, you know, I'm I'm the guy who's serving, but I'm thrilled to be on with you, the bringers of the truth.
Well, you have done so much for this country, your service in the in the military uh and Congress, and and certainly I know sitting at home all the time, uh how many of the slings and arrows that uh come your way from the professional left out there.
Uh and I I just you know thank you for withstanding all of this.
Um this is who these people are, and I I thought uh maybe maybe you could talk a little bit about first of all where we stand with the Republican caucus as we move into uh the conferences we move into uh the new year.
I don't know whether you know this, but I think 2024 is a presidential election year.
Yeah, I've heard that.
Um, you know, I know that these folks think that uh in the media, uh aside from you folks think that the the leftist regime is gonna last forever and continue on the fundamental transformation of America.
Look, we're gonna have our challenges.
We're gonna be down to a two-seat majority, and maybe at some point down to a one-seat majority.
Wow.
Um but but I I will tell you, Jeffrey, for me, and I think probably for your listeners, I don't understand and I don't get why that's hard.
Um we need to rein in government spending and the influence in the government in our daily lives.
All Republicans should be for that, so that should be easy.
We should be for securing our own border.
That should be easy for all Republicans to uh uh to be on board with.
We should be for impeaching Secretary Majorcis for dereliction of duty and abject um I I don't know what you want to call it.
It's it's not in competence.
They are doing exactly what they want to do, which is flouting our laws and and ensuring that we have an invasion in this country that puts every citizen at peril uh and in danger.
So these should be easy whether you've got a whole bunch of Republicans or you're down to a one seat majority.
Why would any of them vote against any of those things?
Yet yet we seem to struggle to get the votes for these these very simple uh things that quite honestly, Jeff, as you know, um and Rose, most Republicans ran when they ran for office, they said if you elect us, this is what we'll do.
And then when they get to Washington, D.C., unfortunately some of them can't find you know, can't find their voting card or something.
And I'm sure you the same thing.
We don't either.
Trust me.
This is this is something uh as you know, the reason for my silver hair is because I was a young congressional staffer back in the early nineteen eighties when President Reagan was in office.
I was working uh on the House budget committee staff for Congressman Bud Schuster from Pennsylvania.
And if I learned anything that that really stuck with me about this is I mean, there is President Reagan elected on a landslide and doing very well, and he puts his program out there, and everybody on the Republican side is oh, Mr. President, this is great stuff, great stuff.
And then you get behind the scenes.
And I was in some of these meetings where it becomes crystal clear that the Republicans are saying, well, you know, in this instance, we need to add more money to A, B, or C or fill in the blank.
And I thought to myself, this is just defeating our own purpose.
So I I think the sentiment has been around for a long time and it and it just it gets me to see it.
And I think you are seeing it close up.
Yeah, it's it's it's very, very frustrating when you think that we're kind of all on the same page, um, and and you see your friends and your colleagues out running on the same platform, and then with the votes right in front of them.
Um, you know, quite honestly, some of the turmoil, let's talk about some of the turmoil in the House of Representatives this year.
The context is this.
The Democrats and the left aren't interested in doing anything to save the country.
Right.
The only real fight to save America is on the Republican side.
But for instance, we're gonna take in five well, last year, because we're in the new fiscal year already, but last year take in five trillion dollars in revenue and tax revenue from the American people.
Spending 7.2.
So that's 2.2 trillion more than we're taking in.
One of the fights in January was because some of us, myself included, said, hey, can we just spend 7.1 instead of 7.2?
And that would fight, right?
It's still two point two point one trillion over what we're taking in.
And then by May on Memorial Day, they even gave up that.
And so, you know, heading into the new year, the Senate wants to even spend more money.
And and the Senate includes some Republicans that'll go along with that.
The American people cannot afford this government, as evidenced when they go to the grocery store.
I say from lettuce number, every single thing you buy is more expensive.
And it's because of what's happening in Washington, D.C. and this insatiable appetite to spend your money, even when your money doesn't exist.
It seems to be that seems to be the problem.
And you know, I I love it when they talk about the presidential election and they talk about Joe Biden being too old.
It isn't a matter of him being too old.
It's a matter of high crime rates, high grocery rates, high gas rates, high you know, you just name it, the border being so open.
But I didn't want to ask you, Congressman, if you could give us some insight onto something that just happened recently before you all took a recess, if you don't mind.
And that was um Mike Johnson.
It seems out here for most people, I hear a lot of people talking, they feel like there was a deal made with Schumer, and you know, we know that there was money for Ukraine, um, there was an effort to aid abortion in the military, and then and and this one I think would be very dear to your heart, that temporary renewal of Section 702, and that's the Pfizer Court that's supposed to surveil foreigners, uh and not us, but in the end we find out that there have been a ton of searches on Americans data.
So when we look at all of this, a lot of people were asking this question could this A cost him his job?
I think the Democrats are just putting that out there.
I don't think it's going to cost him his job.
But in short, it did seem that appeared that he made deals with Democrats.
Um then they recessed on Thursday, but before they all went home, they did pass that bipartisan defense policy bill over a lot of strong objections from 73 ultra conservatives.
And so here's the thing.
Is it did they put a hold on it?
Because they didn't actually say, yeah, we're gonna keep 702 as is, but they did put an extension on it, I think I can't remember, is it until March, I'm pretty sure.
Is that because it it requires more time to take a look at?
But you and I both know, and you've been through a lot yourself, that the 702 is is something that's so very important to Americans right now, as it should be.
Yeah, absolutely.
The Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act, meant for foreigners, passed in nineteen seventy-eight.
And since then, you know, we had the nine eleven terror attacks in the United States of America, of course, just two months ago in Israel, thirteen hundred uh Israeli and American citizens slaughtered, raped, uh ravaged uh by terrorists, yet uh 702 didn't save any of them.
In the meantime, uh the the FBI and uh and our law enforcement agencies in America are using it to spy on people that go to Catholic Mass or have the temerity to show up at a school board meeting and then get a threat tag uh placed on them by our Department of Justice, uh which is why I voted against that bill.
And as a guy who spent over 35 years in uniform, I also voted against the National Defense Authorization Act.
We had a good bill coming out of the House.
The Senate did not have a good bill, but we we named conferees.
Those are the people that that do conference be you know, the differences between the two bills.
And I was one of the conferees.
I got named as one of the conferees, uh under some protest, but uh, you know, McCartney put me on there, and then we never met.
And then they and then four people, two in the House and two in the Senate, decided what that was.
We told the speaker, let these bills run separately, at least so that the American people can see who votes which way.
And of course, more Democrats voted for this package than Republicans, which is a very bad sign.
And um look, you know, and I I I got yelled at by some of my Republican colleagues saying, you know, this is why we can't get anything done here.
And I said, I don't want to do these things.
I don't want my government spying on the citizens of the United States of America.
If they want to spy on foreigners and keep us safe, so be it.
But they're not keeping us safe, and they're spying on us.
So um with all due respect, I know that the speaker was put in uh, you know, during overtime, you know, down three touchdowns, and we all expect miracles.
But I I will tell you anybody, whether it's the speaker or anybody else has to be willing to stand up to the Washington cartel, the UNIPARTY, and say no.
Right.
You're just simply not going to do it.
And and uh I know the pressure is very high, but the country can't take much more.
And I think uh Jeffrey and Rose, you all feel that, and I think that listeners on Sean's show feel that as well.
Well, you know, one of the things too about this uh with Speaker Johnson, and listen, a lot of people will tell me off the record staffers, everyone, they they like him.
They say he's an honest man, uh man of principles, and and I do think he's a good guy.
One of the things that was said of this uh by uh representative of Mike Simpson, he said he's he said of Mike Johnson, he's trying to satisfy all our conference, which I don't know that he can.
And then he added, you have to remember this is the first time he's been in this role.
So yeah, okay, it's not his fur this is his first rodeo.
But at the same time, that I think was alarming to us or disturbing on on many levels, the surveillance, the the seven oh two.
Well, that's a PISA.
Yeah.
And why should he have to satisfy two ends of the conference that?
The problem is is that there's a portion of the conference that not only wants to continue FISA, but actually wants to expand it.
Imagine that Republicans thinking that.
You know, the section, I think it's called 540.
We have 702 and 540, part of the Patriot Patriot Act, which would compel anybody with a Wi-Fi connection.
So you think of Panera or uh McDonald's or any place you go where you might pick up a Wi-Fi connection, they would be compelled to spy on behalf of the American government on their patrons.
And yet that's what some Republicans in in the Senate in the House are asking for.
And I just wonder how do they go home to their districts and say, please elect me.
We had 278,000 Americans spied on under this program that we know of, right?
That's what was self-reported by the agencies illegally spying.
And yet somehow they're countenancing not only continuing it, but but increasing it.
It is it is unacceptable.
I simply I will always be a no vote for that.
Oh, I appreciate that very much.
I think they cocoon in in DC and when they go home, they they kind of hide out.
I really do some of them.
They do.
Except for Scott.
Except for Scott, because he's going to be out and about this week, in fact.
But go ahead, uh Jeffrey.
Uh Scott, I want to switch gears a little bit here, and I want to read you a story.
Uh the first sentence of a story I saw, I think it was called Spotlight PA, and the headline says the Shapiro administration has canceled a planned upgrade to Pennsylvania's system for managing voter rolls, leaving officials stuck for the foreseeable future where the process and technology they say is outdated and inefficient.
Um, you add that in to the mail mail and ballots, and I think I saw you on Newsmax uh last night uh talking about this.
Uh give us your thoughts just in general on the election process in our beloved Commonwealth.
We have a minute.
Well, Jeffrey, uh uh as you know, just up until a few years ago, Pennsylvania for for all its problems, and the Commonwealth does have plenty, actually had a pretty cute pretty secure election system.
We showed up on election day one day and and cast our votes.
You had to sign a book to say, you know, you were there and who you were, other than an absentee ballot.
And unfortunately, our state Republican Party gave the Democrats every day everything they wanted, which is essentially 50 days of voting with mail.
And and the Democrats, of course, have used that to great effect.
You know, we Jeffrey, you and I are represented by represented by Senator John Fetterman.
Now, nobody made the case that John Fetterman was the better candidate or was more lucid or was more experienced to do the this very high profile, very important job.
They didn't have to make the case because they didn't care.
They collect the ballots.
They collect the votes.
They go get them.
The Republican Party, unfortunately, myself included, has to say, "Look, we don't like the rules of this game.
We think you should show up on election day uh with your ID in hand, prove who you are, prove you're an American citizen, and vote on that day.
And if you can't file for an absentee ballot, but those aren't the rules anymore.
And so we have to play with the rules that uh that we have.
And unfortunately, when you have a radical leftist governor like we do in Josh Shapiro, who would like to be president someday.
Yeah, that's what's happening.
I mean, hey, listen, uh we want to thank you because Jeffrey and I both actually, I don't know if you know this, but I also live in Pennsylvania, so I appreciate you and what you're doing for our state and representing us.
Uh thanks for joining us today, Congressman Scott Perry, your doll.
Thank you.
See you soon.
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With that said, I want to introduce the great former Speaker of the House, uh, the Honorable Newt Gingrich.
Uh, Mr. Speaker, welcome to the show.
Um I have to say I I always have a soft spot for you because back in 1976, when I was uh a dopey candidate for the legislature in Pennsylvania, my campaign treasurer turned out to be your sister Rob, who kept saying to me, You've got to meet my brother.
He's running for Congress in Georgia.
And I thought, well, yeah, the uh the chance that a Republican could get elected in Georgia.
And then a number of years later, there I was as a White House Reagan political liaison to something called the Conservative Opportunity Society.
And I would trendle up to the House uh, I don't know whether it was once a week or once a month, and and you would help hold forth there, you and Jack Kemp and Dick Army and others.
And so if I learned nothing, it was to pay attention.
So welcome to the show.
Well, I'm glad to be with you.
And uh Robbie has always been very supportive, and that's a great story which I'll tell about the next time we talk.
Well, Mr. Mr. Speaker, I want to I have your book here, uh March to the Majority.
And uh, you know, I've just started to get into this, but you you talk uh about both the uh the march that that got you to the speakership and making Republicans the majority for the first time in whatever it was 40 years or some long stretch.
And uh also involved here, I I I thought you might like to talk a little bit about uh immigration and how Republicans in the House need to stand firm on this.
And I just to give you one little snapshot here, and I'm sure this won't surprise you at all.
Uh the Washington Post ran a piece the other day uh in which they quoted the mayor of Pittsburgh, a Democrat by the name of Ed Gainey, who said to the Post, we're not here to reject any immigration.
As a matter of fact, we want to make this the most safe, welcoming, thriving place.
And then he said that he does not make distinctions on the basis of someone's immigration status or how the person entered the country saying, Why wouldn't we want them?
Uh in other words, illegal immigration is apparently okay with these folks.
I'll hand it over to you.
Well, no, that's it's clear if you look at Biden's illegal immigration policy and Biden's illegal immigrants, uh, this is not an accident.
This is this is a belief that you ought to be able to have everybody in the world who'd like to come here uh be, you know, enter the United States illegally.
Uh and now, of course, on the left, they also want them to be allowed to vote.
Uh and we're talking about a planet in which the Gallup poll estimated in their world poll that there were uh at least 165 million people who would like to move to the U.S. Well suspect that number has gone up.
I mean, you know, if you if you're living in Gaza or you're living in Ukraine, or you're living in Lebanon, uh, or for that matter, Venezuela, and you think, gee, where would I like to be next month?
Well, the U.S. is a lot better place just for the quality of life for opportunities for the economy.
Uh and the question is one, are we going to remain a country where the rule of law matters?
I'm very much for legal immigration.
Clista and I are my wife Clist and I are actually uh doing a series called Journey to America, celebrating uh legal immigrants who come here and make us successful.
But I'm equally deeply opposed to people who come here illegally because their first act is to break the law.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I'd love to get your opinion on what's going on in Texas right now, since we're on this subject, because we know that the Republican Texas governor Greg Abbott yesterday approved new powers that are going to allow police to arrest migrants who illegally cross the border, and it's going to give local judges there the power to order them to leave the country.
They'll give them an option, you know, you either leave the country or you're you'll go, you know, we're going to hit you with, you know, some sort of uh fine or misdemeanor charge.
So a lot of people are saying the opponents, of course, don't like it.
They're saying that's too dramatic of an attempt by a state, because if you remember there was a 2010 Arizona law that they also didn't like, it was called the Show Me Your Papers Bill.
But anyway, that was struck down by the U.S. Supreme Court.
But right now, you're hearing people say this is an overreach for a state.
Really, this is this should be a federal issue.
But the the feds aren't the people who are in charge of these kind of things aren't doing anything.
And the people like Abbott and the people of his great state are suffering as a result.
Isn't there such a thing as state sovereignty and couldn't it apply here in this particular case?
Well, I think what what applies is the that the state should have the ability to protect its own people.
And when you have tens of thousands of people coming in illegally, uh a number of them drug dealers, uh, some of them uh terrorists, and then we do know that literally that they picked up people on the terrorist watch list coming in the United States on the southern border.
Right.
Then a state, I think has a responsibility to protect its citizens.
And the amazing thing to me is that the Biden administration is madder at Texas for trying to enforce the law than it is at the illegal immigrants who are breaking the law.
And that's because the Biden illegal immigration policy is the maximum number of new people showing up with the least possible problem in a way which is just going to undermine the whole country.
Yeah, it's so disappointing.
But I love that he's he has to he's forced.
He really has no other choice but to take a stance like this.
And he I think the message that he wants to get out there is listen, you think you're gonna come over?
And he's talking to the cartels, too.
You're not gonna want to be bringing these people to the state of Texas, and maybe they'll think twice about before they go there.
But it's just no one is taking no one's taking charge on this issue.
So God bless them for for his efforts.
What do you think?
Well, go ahead.
No, but I mean, no, I say I think I think actually Biden has taken charge.
Well, I guess you're right.
This is what he wants.
Yeah, you're right.
Yeah, right.
I think you're absolutely right about that.
We're in a power struggle, and I just wrote a a newsletter arguing that in fact uh if you if you look at a new poll we just did at America's New Majority Project, which people can see for free by going to America's New Majority Project.com.
We do uh every two weeks you do a national survey with two thousand registered voters.
Overwhelmingly, the American people uh want us to control the border.
Uh seventy-six percent of the American people want us to hire more border patrol.
Um sixty-seven percent favor the Republican bill and part that's in the House.
And part of the reason I wrote the newsletter was to say House Republicans ought to stand firm.
Uh, there are a handful of Senate Republicans who are goofy.
Uh one of them is offered a proposal that after the first three thousand people come in illegally each day, you could arrest people above three thousand.
Well, that means you're accepting a million uh Biden illegal immigrants every year before you do anything.
I mean, we have audio on that.
We can play that right now if you like.
Take a listen.
The issue is not just how we respond in the city of Chicago, it's the fact that we have a governor, a governor, an elected official in the state of Texas that is placing families on buses without shoes, cold, wet, tired, hungry, afraid, traumatized, and then they come to the city of Chicago where we have homelessness, we have mental health clinics that have been shut down and closed.
You have people who are seeking employment.
The governor of Texas needs to take a look in the mirror of the chaos that he is causing for this country.
This is not just a Chicago dynamic.
He is attacking our country.
Really?
That was the mayor of Chicago.
Yeah, can you believe this?
The mayor of Chicago attacking that he's suggesting that the Governor Abbott is attacking Americans.
Right.
Unbelievable.
Where the left is.
Look, the hard left identifies with illegal immigrants rather than with Americans.
You know, there was a case that The New York Post reported of a 94-year-old Korean War veteran who had been kicked out of his assisted living so they could turn it over to illegal immigrants.
Well, if you're in love with the left, that makes perfect sense.
I mean, why why why would you favor a patriot in his nineties who defended America in the Korean War when you could give it away to somebody who had broken the law, come here illegally, and uh was frankly demanding welfare.
Uh I mean, this whole thing is exactly Upside down, but that's where the left is.
The left on a whole range of issues, the left is upside down.
In the meantime, you've got the people showing up at city hall meetings and they're they're saying we don't want to be a sanctuary city any longer here in Chicago.
I mean, they they're they've had enough, and this guy's supposed to be representing them.
They got what they asked for.
They sure did, though.
They really did.
I think that's why Mayor Adams, for example, in New York is now at 23% approval.
Yeah.
Uh yeah.
Right.
You know, we only have a couple of minutes, but I would love to get your opinion on this, uh, Speaker.
We look you, you know, everyone knows you and you were responsible really for the contract with America.
It was so successful.
It was amazing.
And and people believed you, they they wanted more of that.
They they were they bought into it, they loved it, and you delivered.
Then about a year ago, we had the House represent uh Republicans come out with their commitment to America.
It kind of fizzled out.
What was the difference?
Why are we not seeing the support?
I mean, we just saw it before recess, you know, with the um FISA 702 and the a couple of other things where we didn't have Republicans voting the way they really should have voted.
What's going on here?
Well, I think a couple of things.
First of all, uh when when the contract with America we were standing on Ronald Reagan's shoulders, virtually everything in the contract was stuff Reagan had been campaigning on uh since 1964.
So the country understood it, it was thoroughly embedded.
Uh and there were only ten things.
I mean the the the one great I I admired very much what Kevin McCarthy was trying to accomplish.
But the biggest challenge with his commitment to America was they had 150 items.
Well, nobody can understand 150 items.
Five or ten that are the most powerful, you stick with them and you get them done.
And uh part of the reason that I wrote my most recent newsletter at Gangers 360, which is available for free, is to say that House Republicans, you have a winning position on stopping Biden's illegal immigration program.
Stick with it.
Don't let the Senate brow beat you, don't let the news media brow beat you.
And say to Biden, if you want to get a bill through that that helps Ukraine and Israel, we want to get a bill through that helps America.
And if you're not prepared to take care of the American border, we're not going to give you the money for other countries' borders.
I like that.
How how important uh and I I've noticed this in your book, and I thoroughly agree, but if you could expand a little bit, how important is it for House Republicans to stop negotiating with uh this or that democratic senator and negotiate with President Biden himself and limit it to that.
Well, I I've always believed, and Kevin McCarthy did this very well in the debt ceiling fight.
Uh the only person McCarthy would negotiate with was Biden.
Yeah.
I think Johnson ought to take the position that the only person he's going to negotiate with is Biden.
Uh, you know, it's it is virtually impossible to bring up a bill unless the speaker's willing to do it.
I mean, there are technically you could do it with a discharge petition, but that's very hard to do.
And if I if I were the Republicans in the House, I would say we have a clear position.
It is supported by three out of every four Americans.
Uh and we are not going to back off.
And if you want to help, and I say it this way.
Uh I'm very much for stopping Putin from winning in Ukraine.
I think it'll be obsessed.
I am very much for helping Israel destroy a terrorist organization that was cutting off the heads of babies.
I think Hamas is evil.
I think it needs to be destroyed.
But I think we have a legitimate priority to say that defending America's border has to be part of any bill that's designed to defend Ukraine and Israel.
And draw the line straight with the Democrats and just say, you know, if if you want to be the end, you're not you're not going to get the money that you desperately want to get for Ukraine until you agree to control the border.
Period.
And then very calm.
They go on and do other things and say, you know, we can wait as long as we have to, we can wait till the presidential election and the presidential election be a referendum on should you take care of American border first.
We win that about four to one.
I agree with you a hundred percent.
We have to say Jeffrey and I, we just we love you.
Uh former speaker Newt Gingrich, uh, we appreciate you so much.
Uh your book, March to the Majority is worth checking out.
And also I just want to plug America's New Majority Project dot com.
You can get a lot of information there.
Uh speaker, thank you so much for joining us today on the Hannity Show.
Let me wish both you and the audience a Merry Christmas.
Thank you.
And this is you as well and your family.
God bless.
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