Rose Tennent and Jeffrey Lord fill in for the vacationing Sean and are joined by Alan Dershowitz to discuss his book, "War Against the Jews," which he started writing after October's tragic incident. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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| Nine times out of ten, they called me a masochist, rolled their eyes, or just asked. | |
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| Benghazi, the truth became a web of lies. | |
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| Welcome to the Sean Hannity Show. | |
| Hello, my friend Rose. | |
| Hello, Dean. | |
| Here we are, with two of us having to replace Sean Hannity. | |
| That shows you how valuable Sean is. | |
| That's exactly right. | |
| It does take two. | |
| I have to tell you though, we are so excited to be here. | |
| My name is Rose. | |
| I've been here before. | |
| I know you have as well. | |
| You are Jeffrey Lord. | |
| I am Jeffrey Lord. | |
| Yes. | |
| And we are, you know, we're here at Christmas time. | |
| Ethan is here. | |
| Linda's here. | |
| Jeffrey, I just have to say something funny though. | |
| Okay. | |
| Linda, forgive us. | |
| Okay. | |
| Well, I was looking at the group text on our way in here. | |
| I don't know how you're putting up with us or how you will put up with us for the rest of the show. | |
| So first of all, Jeffrey says to you, you said to him, T Y V N. I'm like, oh, she said, you know, thank you. | |
| Okay. | |
| And Jeffrey's like, wait, what? | |
| What? | |
| What? | |
| What are you saying? | |
| Thank you very much. | |
| But that's not that. | |
| That's not so bad, Jeffrey. | |
| I was going to go to a building they haven't been in in years. | |
| The worst part is I've been to this new building before. | |
| So I mean Linda, are you gonna be okay with this? | |
| You went to the old one? | |
| I Ethan, I did. | |
| I wanted to go to the old one. | |
| Linda stopped me. | |
| She stopped me. | |
| Otherwise, she'd still be wandering around radio sitting. | |
| I would, I would. | |
| Linda, are you gonna be okay with us? | |
| I love you guys. | |
| And uh I think we reconvene with this question at six o'clock. | |
| I believe it. | |
| I believe it. | |
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| I have a Rose Unplugged podcast. | |
| I do some radio here and there, but I have a podcast, Rose Unplugged. | |
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| So I love that. | |
| So you can check me out in those podcasts. | |
| You can go to my website, which is RoseUnplugged.com. | |
| And Jeffrey, this is kind of new since the last time you and I spoke. | |
| But Roseunplugged.com has a lot. | |
| I'm featuring a lot of other podcasts on there. | |
| So I'm going to put you on there. | |
| Oh, wow. | |
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| And also I've got the women's ministry. | |
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| She is called by him dot com. | |
| So on Twitter, it's Rose Unplugged and uh at she is called by him and on Instagram, it's Rose Unplugged the number one. | |
| You have a show. | |
| Can I say your show name? | |
| Because I I think I say it better than anyone does. | |
| Absolutely. | |
| Okay, so Jeffrey Lord has a podcast and it's called The Word of the Lord. | |
| You should have me do the Jeffrey Lord, I always have. | |
| So there's no mistaking. | |
| Yeah, no, because we might mistake you for the actual Lord, God forbid. | |
| And I do have a uh website, uh, the Jeffrey Lord.com. | |
| I'm a contributing editor to the American Spectator. | |
| Yes, I love that. | |
| And uh I am a contributor to Newsmax TV, and then I just contribute to myself during the day. | |
| And we won't say in what ways, but yeah, okay. | |
| So anyway, Merry Christmas. | |
| I don't even know what that means, but I just said not the Merry Christmas part, the other one, but Merry Christmas and Jeffrey. | |
| I know. | |
| Oh, oh, Rose, wait, wait, what? | |
| I was gonna say uh I I have two words for you that we're not supposed to say, or the woke people will come for us. | |
| But I'm gonna say them anyway. | |
| And you already have Merry Christmas. | |
| Merry Christmas, Jeffrey. | |
| Yeah, we're both in trouble now. | |
| Yes, yes, yes. | |
| We are so not woke, are we? | |
| No. | |
| But anyway, Merry Christmas to all of you out there too. | |
| This is a wonderful time of year. | |
| And Jeffrey, being here in New York City, I have to say, I do love Christmas time at New York City. | |
| I do, I love it. | |
| I love the lights. | |
| Ethan is you know, shaking his head at me. | |
| I still love New York, okay? | |
| That's because I don't see everything you do, probably every day. | |
| But I I love it. | |
| And there's just such a vibe here, and and Christmas time is so exciting. | |
| And you know, one of the things, Jeffrey, I was there's some really crazy Christmas consumption stories out there right now. | |
| I don't know if you've heard them. | |
| Okay, are you ready for this? | |
| I'm ready. | |
| All right. | |
| Well, first of all, oh my gosh. | |
| Now, Jeffrey, you might actually be too old for this. | |
| Uh-oh. | |
| Oh, I'm I'm being silly. | |
| But do you remember in the 60s? | |
| I think it was the Sears Roebach and Company used to have the Christmas catalog as like a wish book. | |
| Yeah. | |
| Did you grab that catalog and dog ear it and circle everything that you wanted for Christmas? | |
| That was mom's task. | |
| Well, you know what? | |
| Wasn't that a great tool? | |
| Yes. | |
| The parents didn't have to guess, second guess. | |
| You just get that catalog and everybody knew what you wanted. | |
| And now it's called the internet. | |
| That's true. | |
| That is so true. | |
| But it was a brilliant move on the part of Sears, and it made it really easy for parents. | |
| So now let's fast forward to the Christmas wish list of 2023. | |
| Have you heard this? | |
| In New York City, these rich kids are asking Santa for some really high ticket items, Jeffrey. | |
| Oh, yeah. | |
| Okay, for example, a 750 dollar puffer jacket. | |
| Apparently, it's Montclair and it's supposed to be all the rage right now. | |
| I didn't know. | |
| I had no idea. | |
| Um, 100 plus dollars for skincare products, okay? | |
| Stuff that I didn't even start using until it was probably too late, but I did start using it later in my life. | |
| But I sure as heck didn't need it when I was eight years old. | |
| I can tell you that. | |
| But also, there's some other things too, like the UGS, which are at least $100. | |
| And this is my favorite, costing not quite as much as that puffer jacket at $750, but the Heremese bracelets starting in the mid $700. | |
| Jeffrey, can can we move to just for Christmas? | |
| So Santa knows our new address just at Christmas time. | |
| If that's the kind of gift that Santa's giving out, then I'm moving. | |
| Well, I I can tell you with uh almost 99.999% assurance. | |
| I will not be getting anything of that nature for Christmas. | |
| And I can tell you with 100% specificity, I will not be giving any of those. | |
| Oh, rats. | |
| Love my family as I do. | |
| I am taking you out to dinner tonight, though, for Christmas. | |
| So you are getting that anyway. | |
| But you know what? | |
| I mean, One of the stories that I was reading about this, the parents were outraged because and they were complaining that their kids were influenced by TikTok and other platforms. | |
| And the answer, the solution to that is simple. | |
| Then don't let them get on TikTok and those platforms at eight years old, Jeffrey. | |
| Right. | |
| Eight years old. | |
| Come on. | |
| I I just I I don't know what's happened with the this whole thing with parents and their kids are out there doing all these things. | |
| Now I I'll admit, I'm sure it's a challenge here because your kids, when they walk out the door, and let's just say for the sake of the argument that you've absconded with their phone until you can watch this. | |
| That doesn't mean that when they're out the door, there isn't some pal who's got a phone. | |
| Oh yeah, and and access, right? | |
| And access living in the 21st century has challenges that uh have not been faced before. | |
| No, and you know, when you hear these things that these children want, you know, there are places in the world where a kid's Christmas wish is clean water for God's sake. | |
| Yes, right. | |
| And and so you're told and they're asking for one of my favorite songs of modern Christmas carols. | |
| Yes, is uh the band-aid song from the 1980s, Do They Know It's Christmas? | |
| No, are you gonna sing it for us? | |
| Or what's gonna happen here? | |
| Well, I don't want to break Sean's show. | |
| Uh so I think that would that would not be a good idea. | |
| But um it's a fabulous show, and they this uh impromptu group, and I think it included uh you two and and some others, and it's all about you know, if if you're in Africa and you can't get this. | |
| Oh, I do remember that now, yes. | |
| Well that it's a beautiful song, and I loved it enough to get the C D version of it, and they have a slower, different version. | |
| They only have two tracks on it. | |
| The slower one and then the one that everybody knows. | |
| Yeah, right. | |
| Uh it's uh it's really it's I think it's really beautiful. | |
| But I like the old Christmas stuff. | |
| Uh I do too. | |
| I'm I'm a uh Christmas movie addict. | |
| Which is what is your favorite? | |
| And now you know, I have a new one. | |
| What that uh I like. | |
| I think it's called Jingle Smells. | |
| Okay, I don't know anything about this. | |
| You told me about this earlier. | |
| Uh explain, my friend, explain. | |
| Um it is executive produced by somebody what was his name? | |
| Oh, maybe Sean Sean something. | |
| Sean Hannity. | |
| That's it. | |
| There you go. | |
| And uh he even has a cameo in there. | |
| But it it's a it's a clever plot that really picks up on some uh on political correctness. | |
| There was a a guy, an actor who's who's famous in the day for playing a particular character, and he's caught on uh video, if you can imagine this, saying he loves his country and he loves God. | |
| Well, of course, there's a social media backlash to this and a demand that he be cut off, and this toy company that had been putting out all these images of him, uh goes with the social media crowd, cuts it off, and decides that they're going to give away these thousands of toys with his image on it. | |
| Oh wow. | |
| And along comes they want they want them sent to a landfill, and along comes a garbage man to pick them up, sees what they are, and takes it upon himself to dress up as Santa and deliver them to like children's hospitals. | |
| It's a great, it's a great story, but it really is touching on some of the issues that we face today with this kind of thing. | |
| And this is available on the internet. | |
| I believe, yes, Rumble, am I correct with that? | |
| Yes, yes. | |
| So I I would highly recommend it. | |
| But in addition to that, the old standbys, I always start the year with uh White Christmas, with good old Bing Crosby and Danny Kay. | |
| Yes, yes. | |
| And uh It's a Wonderful Life with Jimmy Stewart. | |
| Yeah, and then perhaps one of my favorite of all time Christmas movies, Die Hard. | |
| Oh, there you go. | |
| I was forced to watch, we had to we celebrated Christmas early this year because our child is going uh to his wife's uh family's home. | |
| So we had an early Christmas, which actually I kind of liked. | |
| I mean, it's not bad in the end. | |
| Christmas all year. | |
| I mean, I Christmas medification. | |
| Ethan, you don't see a problem with that. | |
| Okay, I'm like, seriously, you guys are making me do this again again. | |
| You can watch that at any point during the year. | |
| It's still a classic. | |
| Come on. | |
| With everything going on in the world, you don't want to laugh a little. | |
| No, I mean, I but you know what? | |
| Here's me. | |
| And I felt the same way with the three stooges and any kind of humor like that, like it makes me nervous. | |
| It's like, oh my god, no, no, no, not the tree, not not the light, not it makes me actually nervous. | |
| I get sick in my stomach. | |
| But you know what? | |
| My son pointed out to me that I did not know is that the the boy that played his son in the movie went on to play um in Big Bang Theory. | |
| He was the guy with the glasses that was dating the blonde, and I don't know people's names, actors' names. | |
| So I was surprised by that. | |
| But then by when looking at him, I'm like, oh yeah, I can see the connection. | |
| Well, you know, one of the one of the stories that I thought was interesting. | |
| Uh, for those who have seen the old uh home alone movie with uh Holly Fulkin. | |
| Love that. | |
| And uh you know, and the story is that the little kid is left home alone. | |
| So among other things, he goes out in grocery shops for himself. | |
| Well, some smart guy out there, because you can see on screen what he's buying, you know, laundry detergent and milk and all this kind of thing. | |
| So some enterprising soul toted up the cost of those items. | |
| That movie came out in 1990. | |
| And yes, indeed, Biden Flation has hit home alone, and old Kevin would not have the bucks to get through the line. | |
| He would not survive being home alone in 2023 for sure. | |
| You know, last night, just real quick too, while we're on the subject of New York, I went to just a restaurant, Italian restaurant around the corner from my hotel, and there I'm at the bar eating, because I like to do that. | |
| I like to just talk if I'm by myself and talk to the bartender, whatever, and whoever's sitting next to me. | |
| It turns out, and this is not the beginning of a weird stupid joke, but two finance guys and an oil man walk in. | |
| Okay, I'm not kidding you. | |
| I'm like, wait, and and they're all conservative, so they're like, yeah, we know we love Sean Hannity, and you know, and I'm like, am I in New York City? | |
| So I don't know. | |
| I know what's going on. | |
| You found the three people, did you? | |
| I found them, the three wise men of New York City. | |
| That was it. | |
| So let's talk about what we have coming up on the show today. | |
| Yes, we have the great Alan Dershowitz, the per law professor, emeritus from Harvard. | |
| Uh Alan has written a very timely book, and and it's amazing. | |
| The title is War Against the Jews, How to End Hamas Barbarism. | |
| And the thing that fascinates me about this is that he started writing this after October 7th. | |
| Wow. | |
| And hello, it it is uh you know the middle of December here. | |
| And he got this together, and it's uh it it's a it's a fabulous book. | |
| And one of the things that I talk about uh on occasion years and years ago, I saw a survey of uh American high school or college kids, and they were asked who is Lyndon Johnson, and the answer was he was president of the United States during the civil war. | |
| Of course, the answer was that this just blew me away. | |
| Wow, unbelievable. | |
| So, you know, I I thought Alan's book is educational, and there are a lot of American kids, particularly these kids protesting, who need it. | |
| Yeah. | |
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| What I told people, I was making a podcast about Benghazi. | |
| Nine times out of ten, they called me a masochist, rolled their eyes, or just asked why. | |
| Benghazi, the truth became a web of lies. | |
| It's almost a dirty Word. | |
| One that connotes conspiracy theory. | |
| Will we ever get the truth about the Benghazi massacre? | |
| Bad faith, political warfare, and frankly, bullshit. | |
| We kill the ambassador just to cover something up. | |
| You put two and two together. | |
| Was it an overblown distraction or a sinister conspiracy? | |
| Benghazi is a Rosetta Stone for everything that's been going on for the last 20 years. | |
| I'm Leon Nafok from Prologue Projects and Pushkin Industries. | |
| This is Fiasco Benghazi. | |
| What difference at this point does it make? | |
| Yeah, that's right. | |
| Locker up. | |
| Listen to Fiasco Benghazi on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. | |
| Hey there. | |
| I'm Mary Catherine Hamm. | |
| And I'm Carol Markowitz. | |
| We've been in political media for a long time. | |
| Long enough to know that it's gotten, well, a little insane. | |
| That's why we started normally a podcast for people who are over the hysteria and just want clarity. | |
| We talk about the issues that actually matter to the country without panic, without yelling, and with a healthy dose of humor. | |
| We don't take ourselves too seriously, but we do take the truth seriously. | |
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| Three times a week, we do our podcast, Verdict with Ted Cruz. | |
| Nationwide, we have millions of listeners. | |
| Every Monday, Wednesday, and Friday, we break down the news and bring you behind the scenes inside the White House, inside the Senate, inside the United States Supreme Court. | |
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| So down a verdict with Ted Cruz now, wherever you get your podcasts. | |
| What I told people, I was making a podcast about Benghazi. | |
| Nine times out of ten, they called me a masochist, rolled their eyes, or just asked why. | |
| It's almost a dirty word. | |
| One that connotes conspiracy theory. | |
| Will we ever get the truth about the Benghazi massacre? | |
| Bad faith, political warfare, and frankly, bullshit. | |
| We kill the ambassador just to cover something up. | |
| You put two and two together. | |
| Was it an overblown distraction or a sinister conspiracy? | |
| Benghazi is a rosetta stone for everything that's been going on for the last 20 years. | |
| I'm Leon Nafok from Prologue Projects and Pushkin Industries. | |
| This is Fiasco Benghazi. | |
| What difference at this point does it make? | |
| Yeah, that's right. | |
| Locker up. | |
| Listen to Fiasco Benghazi on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. | |
| We're back. | |
| So Jeffrey. | |
| Are we having too much fun or what? | |
| We might be. | |
| Okay, we might be. | |
| So we just thought we'd just say hello again, let you know who we are, Jeffrey. | |
| I am Jeffrey Lord of the Word of the Lord with Jeffrey Lord Podcast. | |
| You don't say it as well as I do. | |
| The word of the Lord. | |
| I think I should, Ethan, I should do his intro to that. | |
| The word of the Lord. | |
| Oh, yeah. | |
| Oh, yeah, I've got that. | |
| But go ahead and do that. | |
| And then there's the website, the Jeffrey Lord.com. | |
| They're then and then uh most of the world is thankful there's only one. | |
| Yeah. | |
| No. | |
| And uh then there is uh The American Spectator where I'm contributing uh editor, and of course, my friends at Newsmax TV, where I am a contributor. | |
| Yes, we love seeing you there and reading you. | |
| So Rose, you are Yeah, Rose Unplugged, and I love sitting in for Hannity, and I know you do too as well. | |
| And you're a dear friend. | |
| Jeffrey and I, oh my god, we've been friends for I'd say 27 years. | |
| I think we've known each other that long. | |
| Yes. | |
| Most people don't know that, but we have. | |
| I am I can be heard at Roseunplugged.com. | |
| I've got a podcast that's called That's called Rose Unplugged. | |
| And uh just check me out there. | |
| If you go to Spotify, Apple, or Rumble. | |
| I love Rumble because then if you subscribe there, Jeffrey, they will let you know. | |
| If there's a new podcast, they'll send you an email. | |
| So RoseUnplugged.com, Rose Unplugged Podcast, but also I have a ministry type thing for women. | |
| She is called by him is the name of the ministry. | |
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| It's a very encouraging newsletter. | |
| And uh, and it's not real long, but it's it's a lot of good stuff in there. | |
| So anyway, so Jeffrey and I are really excited because coming up at next is Alan Dershowitz. | |
| We're going to talk about Alan's new book that he wrote real quick, War Against the Jews. | |
| So stay with us. | |
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| Hello. | |
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| My name is Rose, and this is Jeffrey Lord also sitting in with me today for Sean Hannity. | |
| We are loving being here leading up to the week of Christmas. | |
| And we've got some great guests coming up. | |
| And back, we've got one on the line right now. | |
| And that would be the great professor emeritus from Harvard Law School, Alan Dershowitz. | |
| How are you there, my friend Alan? | |
| Hey, I'm doing great. | |
| How are you? | |
| Thanks for calling me. | |
| I am great. | |
| You know, what people may not realize is that uh I first met Alan over when we were at CNN, and we both managed to survive, did we not? | |
| Well, I've been canceled by CNN. | |
| Yeah, me too. | |
| Yeah. | |
| Join the join the club. | |
| Well, uh, Alan, uh, we wanted to get you on here to talk about uh you have a brand new book out, and which startles me as somebody who writes. | |
| Um the title of the book is called War Against the Jews, How to U End Hamas Barbarism. | |
| And it you began it after October 7th. | |
| And it is I I have started I'm not anywhere close to having finished it, but having read the very beginning of it, I want to I just wanted to tell you one sort of observation I had. | |
| Um years and years ago, I saw a survey of high school or college American kids. | |
| And the question one of the questions they were asked is when was Lyndon Johnson president? | |
| And the answer they came up with was the Civil War. | |
| Which is to say, they were utterly uninformed about some of the basics of American history. | |
| And I am reading your book, and I am thinking, man, all of these kids on these college campuses that are out there celebrating Hamas, etc., they had and saying terrible things about Israel, have absolutely no idea about the history of Israel. | |
| And I I just think you've done a great job, and we we wanted to give you a chance to talk about it. | |
| Well, thanks. | |
| A lot of these kids don't know the difference between Palestine and Palisades. | |
| Amen. | |
| We wouldn't be able to identify which river or which sea. | |
| They don't want Jews between. | |
| Um they don't realize that when you say clean, clean the Jews out of the Middle East, they're echoing what the Nazis said about dirty Jews. | |
| They don't realize that they're Hitler youth, that they are doing the same thing that brought Hitler to power, that brought the Ayatollahs to power, that brought uh Stalin to power, and they were all brought to power by students by by useful idiots who are manipulated by the professional revolutionaries. | |
| You know, Mr. Dershowitz, uh one of the things that strikes me is that when we talk about history, what I think is very interesting is that you see the youth today, the Jewish youth, and they have the benefit of knowing what their history is. | |
| And they have been pretty outspoken and very courageous. | |
| I'm thinking of the young students that spoke and testified during the hearings on the hill. | |
| I I love seeing that. | |
| Has that touched you to see how bold and courageous they are, knowing that they're being called out on campuses and even threatened on campuses because of their faith. | |
| They are the heroes. | |
| These are kids who know their grades will suffer. | |
| They know their recommendations will suffer. | |
| They know their friendships will suffer if they support Israel, but they're doing it nonetheless. | |
| And uh, you know, then there's an organization called the Jewish Voice for Peace, which ought to be indicted for fraud. | |
| It's not Jewish. | |
| Uh Most of the members are not Jewish. | |
| They just use the term Jewish voice for peace. | |
| They're a bunch of revolutionaries. | |
| We used to call them, they used to be communists. | |
| They would follow the Soviet uh line. | |
| They call for revolution against the United States, but they very cleverly adopted a new name, the Jewish Voice for Peace. | |
| They're not Jewish. | |
| Fortunately, they have a very low voice, and they're certainly not for peace. | |
| But there are some real Jews, people like Norman Finkelstein, uh, who are anti-Semites. | |
| Um people forget that uh uh there have been anti-Semites who have been Jews throughout throughout history. | |
| Uh and um uh there that doesn't mean you believe anything they say. | |
| Gertrude Stein nominated uh Hitler for the Nobel Peace Prize and turned in Jewish children to the Gestapo. | |
| My God. | |
| Uh so you know there are there are Jews who are just horrible, horrible people. | |
| Uh but the vast majority of Jewish kids on campus have been standing up to this unbelievable bigotry, this anti-Semitism that calls for wiping out the Jews and Harvard's president couldn't even get up the courage to say, although we condemn and we punish people for microaggressions against uh African Americans or gays, we don't know whether we would punish anybody for calling for the genocide against Jews. | |
| That depends on context. | |
| What kind of context could there be? | |
| I know. | |
| That was un and how do you feel now about your Harvard? | |
| I feel awful. | |
| I just today wrote a letter to the Harvard Crimson uh critiquing gay and just got an email back, sorry to refuse to publish it. | |
| This is the Harvard Crimson claims to be an independent paper from a professor who's been at Harvard for 60 years, and they won't publish my answer to another professor's defense of gay. | |
| Professor Charles Freed wrote a legalistic defense of gay, saying, Well, she's right about context. | |
| That's what the Supreme Court said. | |
| And I wrote a letter saying, wait a minute, what about the broader context of she's been in charge of censoring and canceling people for microaggressions? | |
| How could she have first discovered the First Amendment when it applies to Jew haters? | |
| So I wrote a letter and she they refused to publish it. | |
| You know, I I was uh as probably some a a lot of Americans were startled to see all these protests and the anti-Semitism pouring through. | |
| But I know enough history, and I and I wanted to repeat this tale for our audience who may not be familiar with it. | |
| In the 1930s, there was a guy named Fritz Kuhn, who was the head of the German American Bund. | |
| And he was pro-Hitler. | |
| And in 1939, I looked up the date, it was February of 1939. | |
| He held a rally at Madison Square Garden that uh attracted 20,000 Americans. | |
| And there is film of this black and white film from 1937, 1939, rather. | |
| And there are people waving the Nazi swastika and American flags. | |
| And there's a big banner of George Washington at the front, who was described by Fritz Kuhn as the first fascist. | |
| And he goes on to uh mispronounce Franklin Roosevelt's name to give it a Jewish uh tone to it. | |
| He used to call it Rosenfeld, yeah. | |
| Rosenfeld. | |
| And then he referred to the New Deal as the Jew Deal. | |
| The Jew Deal. | |
| Look, these were people who marched down the street a block away from where I live, German town. | |
| There were a hundred thousand Nazis marching on Second Avenue and First Avenue in the 1930s, and using Washington is the worst uh uh kind of misinterpretation of history. | |
| Washington was the first president, the first head of state in the world ever to tell Jews that they would be treated equally in America. | |
| Washington wrote a letter in handwriting. | |
| I have a copy of it on my wall, in which he says to the Jews of Newport, Rhode Island, of bigotry, we will know no sanction, of discrimination we will not allow. | |
| Jews will be able to sit under their fig trees and pray to their God uh completely equally. | |
| He even says, we know of tolerance no more, because tolerance suggests One group allowing another group to be equal. | |
| Under the American Constitution, all groups are born equal and are equal under the law. | |
| That's George Washington. | |
| And yet I don't think a single student uh demonstrating would know that about Washington. | |
| Certainly uh the Nazis and Kuhn's and others didn't know that when they praised Hitler along with Gertrude Stein praising Hitler. | |
| So um, you know, we live in very dangerous times. | |
| People forget that it was students, young students, who brought the Ayatollahs to power. | |
| Remember who took over the American embassy, it was students. | |
| Right. | |
| Remember who led to the victory of Nazism, students from the University of Munich, the University of Berlin. | |
| Students helped Stalin stay in power. | |
| So don't give a pass to students. | |
| They may be useful idiots, but they really can in the end be uh a horrible influence on on bias and prejudice and in American democracy. | |
| You know, and and um Mr. Jerzowitz, I wanted to jump too to something when we were talking about students and some of them not knowing their history, and that's what you see in some of these protests. | |
| When you think about a lot of talk now again about the two state solution, right? | |
| Um has there anyone really been uh uh has anyone really stopped it from becoming a two state uh solution or uh preventing a two two state solution? | |
| I don't think so. | |
| But when you think about it, they don't really want though, do they, a two state solution. | |
| I think even if you remember what Gaddafi has said in the past, um he at one time he asked for all he called for all Jews to be thrown into the sea, Israeli Jews. | |
| But um at other times too, uh he talked about a one state solution where it was both Palestine and Israel. | |
| So there's a lot of history there that these students don't really understand or know about. | |
| And when we talk about two state solutions right now, what are we really talking about? | |
| And do they really want that? | |
| Right. | |
| And the Palestinian I sat down with uh the president of the Palestinian Authority, Abbas, and asked him if he would accept a two state solution in which uh the Palestinians recognized Israel as the nation state of the Jewish people, and he to my face said, absolutely not. | |
| There has not been a single sign at any of these demonstrations calling for a two state solution. | |
| That's why I'm appalled when the media calls these demonstrations pro-Palestine. | |
| They're not pro-Palestine. | |
| They're anti Palestinian state, they're anti Israel, they're pro Hamas. | |
| They want to see the destruction of Israel. | |
| Yeah, they'll say they want a Palestinian state in all of Israel, from the river to the sea, and they want to clean, clean the Middle East of the dirty Jews that live there. | |
| So no, nobody in these demonstrations is calling for a two-state solution. | |
| The people who run the demonstrations are the old communists that used to accept the Soviet Party line. | |
| The Soviet Party line supported Israel from 1948 until nineteen just before 1967. | |
| The moment they turned against Israel, American radicals turned against Israel without thinking about it. | |
| If the Soviet Union wanted it, that's what we want. | |
| That's what they did. | |
| These same people supported the Hitler-Stalin Pact, uh, you know, just people who would follow the party line no matter what it was, and there are still many of them today. | |
| The organizers of the demonstrations, they now call themselves workers' party, socialists this, socialists that, but they're the old line communists who want to see the United States government overruled, overthrown, and they will attach themselves to any cause, whether it's Black Lives Matter or whether it's anti-Israel or it's anything else, as long as it helps destabilize the United States. | |
| One of the things that worries me about the so-called two-state solution is let's just say for the sake of the argument, it happened. | |
| What's to say that the Palestinian side of it wouldn't do in essence what Hamas has done, which is to say build up its uh weaponry and and in essence declare war against Israel. | |
| I mean, I I you know setting up your enemy as your neighbor. | |
| That would happen because if they did a they did polls, and if you had a Palestinian state now, they would elect Hamas. | |
| Um something like 80 percent of the people in the West Bank supported what Hamas did on October seventh. | |
| Only 70 percent in Gaza. | |
| Why? | |
| Because the people of Gaza knew that if Hamas did this, they would have to pay the price for it. | |
| But the people in the West Bank are just laughing and cheering, uh, like Norman Finkelstein said. | |
| It warms every part of His heart to see these arrogant Israelis butchered, murdered, raped, robbed, you know, um, you name it, uh, on on on uh on October 7th, in the midst of these barbarities. | |
| Uh Norman Finkelstein supported them, the National Lawyers Guild supported them. | |
| Uh, the um 33 groups at Harvard supported them. | |
| The Harvard Crimson essentially supports them. | |
| And so you see this is very, very widespread. | |
| And this is before Israel fired a single shot. | |
| You know what? | |
| We only have a little more than a minute left, but real quick if you could, because one of the things you talk about in your book is if if this, if our relationship, the United States relationship with Israel, is it still strong? | |
| And can you really, really depend on America uh intervening or just continuing its strong support? | |
| You have about a minute to answer that. | |
| The Democratic Party is moving away from Israel and its extreme side. | |
| And uh it's a big worry uh for people who are democrats and who love Israel, and nobody knows uh whether the support will continue or the support will weaken. | |
| And if uh Americans have to realize that Israel is fighting for America there, because if Hamas succeeds in Israel, it's coming to a theater near you. | |
| There's no doubt that they will also succeed in bringing their terrorists to the United States. | |
| They've already brought some of them into Europe. | |
| They've been arrested, but there are Hamas sympathizers all over the United States. | |
| And Hamas sympathizers are the enemies of America. | |
| Thank you for joining us today. | |
| I really appreciate it. | |
| Thank you. | |
| Absolutely. | |
| Thank you, Alan, and good luck to you. | |
| I know you they're they're after you out there, so you you thumbs up, keep going. | |
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| We love him. | |
| We never get to see him when we're sitting in for him. | |
| But anyway, so we'll be back. | |
| We have so much more to talk about. | |
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