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DOJ Defending Violence - December 14th, Hour 2
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Um so we have this entire issue of whether or not the DOJ, whether or not the FBI has been weaponized.
Uh, you know, of listening to Director Ray testify before the Senate last week.
Pretty amazing.
You know, uh he's never seen more threats, a larger threat level than ever before, and for the first time he even mentions Joe Biden's illegal immigration and open borders.
Uh, but yet what has the FBI been involved in?
Uh oh, let's see, before the 2020 election, they've been meeting with big tech companies warning them they may be victims of misinformation campaigns, and it may be about Hunter and Joe Biden, uh, knowing that they verified that Hunter's laptop was authentic and real uh when Facebook and Twitter reached out to the FBI after the New York Post broke the laptop story, they would not confirm what they knew to be true.
Uh maybe if they didn't invest resources in ways that seemingly are political and would have an impact on a presidential election.
Uh, maybe if they weren't, you know, harassing tiger moms and dads that go to school board meetings that dare to want age-appropriate material taught to their children.
Maybe if they didn't go after traditional Catholics, maybe just maybe they'd have more resources to deal with the worst terror threats we've ever had.
Of course, another big story today is the European Union.
There was a terror plot that was foiled uh and a massad warning uh that goes along with that, which we discussed uh earlier in the program.
Well, now we have just the news.com.
Uh well, before I get to that, let me take you back to Jim Jordan.
And this is Jim Jordan grilling Merri Garland on uh in October of 2021.
I want you to listen to this exchange.
Will FBI agents be attending local school board meetings?
No.
FBI agents will not be attending local school boards meetings, and there's nothing in this memo to suggest that.
I want to again try to be clear.
This memo is about violence and threats of violence.
Let me just point out the same day you did the memo, the Justice Department's in on a press release, Monday, October 24, or excuse me, Monday, October 4th, 2021.
The press release says Justice Department addresses violent threats against school officials and teachers.
Now you said earlier to a question from one of my colleagues on the Republican side that parents aren't domestic terrorists.
We're not going to treat them that way.
But let me just read from the third paragraph.
According to the Attorney General's memorandum, the Justice Department will launch a series of additional efforts in the coming days designed to address the rising criminal conduct directed towards school personnel.
Those efforts are extended expected to include a creation of a task force consisting of representatives from the department's criminal division, civil rights division, executive office of U.S. attorneys, the FBI, the community relations service, Office of Justice Programs, and the National Security Division.
I find that interesting.
You said there's no way you're going to be treating parents as domestic terrorists, but you got the National Security Division in a press release regarding your memo that day.
Didn't say it did.
I said the press release accompanying your memo that day from the Department of Justice.
Right here it is.
I want to be clear as I can be.
This is not about what happens in Skype school board meetings.
It's only about threats of violence and violence aimed at school officials, school employees, and teachers.
Okay.
Now, just the news.com, founder, editor in chief investigative reporter John Solomon, uh just broke news that a newly released public memo, uh, first referenced by the House Judiciary Committee in their March report on the DOJ's efforts to monitor these you know nebulous threats against school boards, etc.
Uh it shows the top-down effort from Merrick Garland's department to gather information and facilitate prosecutions with local law enforcement against parents that are concerned with curricula uh that is imposed on their children.
Uh joining us now to explain uh what may be a huge, massive uh contradiction of the testimony you heard and what we now know is John Solomon, editor-in-chief of founder and investigative reporter, just the news.com.
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Yes.
Yeah, this is a very important set of documents.
I I think you uh the protect the public trust, which is a uh uh public watchdog that's been doing a lot of FOIA work.
They went after some documents that were hinted at in Jim Jordan's uh recent report on this, and they went and got this memo.
This is a very important memo.
Two weeks after Merrill Garland uh was out uh uh put his memo out there saying, hey, we're gonna treat the these threats seriously.
We need to roll out all the resources.
Right after he gives that testimony, a memo goes out from the executing if this memo goes out from the executive office of U.S. attorney.
It's basically the office that supervises the 93 U.S. attorneys, the chief federal prosecutors uh across the country.
And it says, all of you must go out and have a meeting with your local law enforcement in the next two weeks.
There's a deadline even set, uh, and get these guys rolling.
Get the cops, stick the cops on this.
Let's get rolling on this.
And oh, by the way, after you have the meeting, you have an obligation to come back and report to us who attended and what you discussed.
This is a very top-down, put pressure on the federal prosecutors to rile up local law enforcement and to get something going.
Now, if this was such a serious violence problem, you would assume that the local police and the local prosecutors would be contacting the Justice Department.
That wasn't happening.
This is the Justice Department trying to rile up local law enforcement officials and try to get them engaged on going after anyone who might uh be upset with the school board, might be threatening violence against them.
Uh it's a very top-down effort, very different from the sort of way you just heard Merrick Garland try to downplay it.
The Justice Department was trying to uplay the threat.
Now, one of the things we don't have.
We've never been given data from the Justice Department On how much threats went up.
Were there really violence against any school board members?
We can't find many episodes, so it doesn't look like there was a spike.
There's never been a data to support the idea that there was a spike and this needed to be done.
I want to point out one other thing that shows up in the document.
The um one of the accompanying documents for this, it's revealed that the Justice Department wanted to activate the FBI's national threat operations center, NTOC.
This is normally re uh uh put out there uh or a center that's used to take terrorist threats and immediate threats uh for public safety.
They wanted to activate the center and put this also in action against possible threats being made at school boards or uh clashes between parents and school boards.
All of that comes out in these new FOIAs.
You get the sense that the federal government was actually trying to rile up local law enforcement, then the other way around.
It's pretty unbelievable the story.
But let me go back to the testimony part of the attorney general, uh, because we had contradicting testimony from David Weiss, who's now the special counsel involved in the Hunter Biden case.
This was the guy that wanted no charges at all.
That was the initial plan until we heard from whistleblowers and then the whistleblowers' testimony resulted in a quote, sweetheart deal that would have resulted in no jail time.
That got blown out of the water by a Delaware judge, and thankfully so.
If you look at the testimony, you know, of the whistleblowers, and they took contemporaneous notes.
They said that David Weiss was very clear that in fact he did not have the authority to bring charges against Hunter Biden and other venues, directly contradicting, by the way, himself what he said to one one elected official versus what he said to another elected official.
I mean, he just said one thing to one, one thing to the other, the exact opposite, but also contradicting the attorney general Merrick Garland.
Do we have an example here yet again that Merrick Garland is going before Congress and not being completely truthful?
Yeah, listen, I think that's how most of the members of Congress are looking at this.
And Jim Jordan has had this concern from the beginning, which is Merrick Garland got caught, right?
This was something that started with the school boards and the woke educators putting pressure on the education department.
Education department put pressure on the Justice Department.
Mayor Garland bends and he sends out this memo.
I'm I'm pretty sure from the people I've talked to the Justice Department, he's always had buyer's remorse after it got out there because it became such a public backlash.
And he spends the next couple of weeks trying to downplay.
Well, we weren't really doing anything different here.
We're not putting pressure on anybody.
We're trying to address a problem that was actually occurring at the local level.
And what you find out is the local level isn't complaining to the Justice Department.
The Justice Department is pressing its prosecutors to go out and try to rile up the local cops and say, hey, do you have a problem?
Let's get involved on this.
No one has ever provided the data.
And I think if Congress had a good follow-up, it would be to follow up and say, is there any data, Mr. Attorney General, Justice Department, FBI, that showed a sudden spike that this really was a national crisis?
Because we can't find it.
We don't find it in the FOIA documents.
We don't find it in anything that the uh governments put out there.
They claim that there's this spike, but no one really sees any evidence of a violence in the numbers.
And so I think that's a good follow-up, but I think that the distrust that Mayor Garland has created with Congress is real.
It starts with Hunter Biden and it continues on in this story as well.
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When I told people I was making a podcast about Benghazi, nine times out of ten, they called me a masochist, rolled their eyes, or just asked, why?
Benghazi, the truth became a web of lies.
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Will we ever get the truth about the Benghazi massacre?
Bad faith, political warfare, and frankly, bullshit.
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You put two and two together.
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Let me shift gears on you if you don't mind, John.
Uh, we had the House yesterday voting for the impeachment inquiry.
Uh, I will tell you, there's been no reporter in the country that has done more work, broken more stories that have done that has done more investigative reports that have been corroborated and confirmed and verified than you have.
Uh, and I tip my hat to you personally.
It is a tribute to the hard work that you do every day and your commitment to get things right, very similar to the Russia hoax uh case and which you work so hard impeachment case.
I mean, this is what you were born to do, in my view.
Uh, but I want to go to this and and I'm watching the we watched what was unfolding yesterday and then the sideshow that Hunter Biden put on uh and doesn't want to give a deposition like the Trump uh children did, and you know, goes out lashing out uh the way he did.
Let me play part of that from yesterday.
Jim Jordan, Jason Smith, and their colleagues have distorted the facts.
By cherry picking lines from a bank statement, manipulating texts I sent, editing the testimony of my friends and former business partners, and misdating personal information that was stolen from me.
There is no fairness or decency in what these Republicans are doing.
They have lied over and over about every aspect of my personal and professional life.
So much so that their lies have become the false facts believed by too many people.
No matter how many times it is debunked, they continue to insist that my father's support of Ukraine against Russia is the result of a non-existent bribe.
They displayed naked photos of me during an oversight hearing.
And they have taken the light of my dad's love, the light of my dad's love for me, and presented it as darkness.
They have no shame.
Wow.
Let's get your reaction to it, because uh obviously we've covered this top to bottom.
Amazing how you can make millions and millions and millions of dollars with no uh experience at a time you're struggling with addiction, and uh we can't find any services ever rendered by anybody, and we're talking about tens of millions of dollars, John Solomon.
Well, listen, this is a classic Democrat strategy, right?
Which is to play the victim card.
I'm a victim here.
Me and my family, even though we made millions off of China, Russia, uh, Ukraine, and others, we're a victim, and uh that's not the case.
But the most important words he uttered yesterday was this very small twist of phrase.
He's changed a phrase now.
We went from Joe Biden not involved in his business to Joe Biden not financially involved.
They have moved the goalposts, and this is a very important moment.
Anyone who's been watching this, it wrung their errors the second he uttered it.
By changing it to financially involved, he's trying to say, listen, you're not going to be able to find money to my father uh that you know he wasn't an investor in my businesses.
But what it does leave open now is the very real possibility that the evidence shows that Joe Biden was involved in his business.
He was meeting with his business uh uh uh partners.
He was taking actions that, whether intentionally or otherwise benefited his business partners.
He had meetings at the uh Naval Observatory at a um at a um restaurant in Washington, D.C. He was furthering the family business, and in some cases, it appears that money came back through the family business of nothing else to pay back Joe Biden money he was owed.
But that is a very significant change in phraseology.
And it's the third or fourth time that the Bidens have changed the goalposts.
We went from he never got any money from Johnny, never did anything to help his son's business, he never met with his son's business partners, to now he wasn't financially involved in it.
Uh, that is a major recognition that what's about to come in the impeachment uh proceedings is clear evidence that Joe Biden was involved in helping Hunter Biden make these millions of dollars by showing up at the dinners, by making phone calls, perhaps by firing the prosecutor in Ukraine.
And I'm gonna throw another data point out there.
It's something that we'll make public tomorrow.
The congressional committees have done uh a lot of work to show that Hunter Biden's 2017 China deal, the CEFC energy, China Energy deal, actually began when Joe Biden was the vice president.
It wasn't in 2017, it's consummated earlier, and then the monies are withheld until after Joe Biden has left the office.
That is a very important dynamic.
It makes it look like the family's trying to hide their China connections until Joe Biden can be out of office.
We're gonna put out some very new information, including some testimony that was given to the FBI by a business associate of Hunter Biden that makes clear, though the FBI didn't follow up by uh very strangely, that Joe Biden may have met with uh Hunter's Chinese business partners, the CFC business partners before he left off as vice president.
In other words, he was vice president and he was facilitating the China deal.
That three million dollar payment diamond carrot and that five million dollar loan.
Unbelievable work, John Solomon.
Uh, probably won't talk to you uh at least on the air till till uh after the new year, but uh thanks for all the hard work, uh being a great partner, friend to us.
We uh wish you and your wonderful family all the best this holiday season, and we hope you get a little bit of downtime.
I know it goes against both our natures, but it's important, so um, anyway.
Uh if people knew the hours of which we'd speak, I Think they would think we're both insane, and they probably would all be right.
Anyway, God bless you and your family.
Have a great holiday, my friend.
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What I told people I was making a podcast about Benghazi.
Nine times out of ten, they called me a masochist, rolled their eyes, or just asked, why?
Benghazi, the truth became a web of lies.
From Prologue Projects and Pushkin Industries, this is Fiasco Benghazi.
What difference at this point does it make?
Listen to Fiasco Benghazi on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
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