Arabian Investment in University - October 24th, Hour 3
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You know, I think one of the more shocking things to come out of this horrific terrorist attack against innocent men, women, children, even babies in Israel is the reaction in America.
Academia in particular has been repulsive.
I mean, to watch Harvard University have 31 ignorant separate groups blame Israel and Israel alone, the victim of terrorism, for what happened.
They're responsible.
And of course, these universities that are so woke and so politically correct that you can't say anything about any group of people.
Well, you actually can.
You can attack African-American conservatives, and apparently you could support Hamas terrorists over innocent victims that are Jewish because they've allowed that to happen.
Here's a quick reminder of what went on around our college campuses recently.
Glory to the murders!
Glory to the murders!
Where's the must come?
Hamas has shifted the balance of power.
Hamas has punctured the illusion of invincibility.
That's what they've done.
You don't have to be a Hamas supporter to recognize that.
Hamas has changed the terms of debate.
Israeli officials are right.
Nothing will be the same again.
Nothing will be the same again.
Hamas has challenged the monopoly of violence.
And in those first few hours, even as horrific acts were being carried out, many of which we wouldn't have heard about until later, there are many Gazans of goodwill, many Palestinians, conscious, who abhor violence, as do you, as do I, who abhor the targeting of civilians, as do you, as do I, who were able to breathe.
They were able to breathe for the first time in years.
It was exhilarating.
It was exhilarating.
It was energizing.
And if they weren't exhilarated by this challenge to the monopoly of violence, by this shifting of the balance of power, then they would not be human.
That's exhilarating to these idiots on college campuses?
From the river to the sea.
You know what that means, right?
That means basically wiping Israel off the map.
That's what that means.
You know, anti-FADA revolution.
What does that mean?
They want to wipe Israel off the map.
Hamas's charter calls for the elimination of Israel.
We know, and this is the stupidity that is your president, Joe Biden.
The Palestinians aren't going to get this aid money.
They didn't get the UN aid money.
How do you think they were able to afford building this elaborate network of tunnels?
The ones that you can see on my website that I was inside of.
Well, because they used humanitarian aid from the U.S., from Israel, from other countries, instead of building infrastructure, schools, and hospitals, no, they were building terror tunnels to kill Israelis and to plot, plan, and scheme the next attack on Israel.
Unbelievable.
Anyway, how do you explain this?
Nicholas Giordano is with us, Campus Reform Higher Education Fellow, professor of political science at Suffolk Community College to discuss the strange placement of over 8 billion in universities, American universities and colleges.
A lot of this money is Middle Eastern money.
Well, have they bought into the radicalism that they're accepting money from countries that have associations with radicalism and radical groups?
Anyway, Nicholas Giordano, let's first get your reaction to, and that was only a small sampling of some of the things said on college campuses since October 7th.
Well, thanks for having me, Sean.
And my profession should be embarrassed and ashamed of itself given what we're seeing.
But nobody should be surprised.
At Campus Reform, we've been warning about the increasing radicalization that we're seeing on college campuses throughout the country.
And we did just report on the billions of dollars that are being transferred from Arab countries like Qatar, Saudi Arabia, the United Arab Emirates directly to American universities.
And our Congress should immediately investigate whether this money is being used to fund some of these protests and the student groups.
Because let's be honest, when you watch these protests, these are pro-Hamas protests.
These students are coming out.
They're holding signs by any means necessary.
They're using paragliders as symbols.
And so it's in support of Hamas.
They're basically calling for a second Holocaust, as you alluded to, from the river to the sea.
So it amazes me that there's not stricter reporting requirements when they are receiving this foreign money.
But the scary part is, I don't think professors and students need to be paid to express their anti-Semitism, to express anti-Israeli sentiment, and quite frankly, anti-American sentiment that we routinely see on college campuses.
It's a dangerous place we find ourselves in when higher education is producing radicals, not people that are going to contribute and make society better, but producing radical extremists to push a political agenda.
You see, you know, it's not just universities either.
You saw the massive protest in Times Square.
I mean, I didn't see the whole crowd, but it looked almost as packed from what I could see on TV as New Year's Eve in Times Square.
Over 100,000 people showing up, you know, supporting Hamas in London.
In Australia, they're chanting, you know, gas the Jews, F the Jews.
Gas the Jews, F the Jews.
What's that all about?
Well, a big part of our problem is that here in the United States, the university campuses have deemed the concept of the melting pot as biased, as discriminatory.
We can't tell people that are coming to this country that they must assimilate into American culture and adopt American values.
They pretend and have this myth that diversity is our strength, but realistically, assimilation is our strength.
Unfortunately, they cater to these groups, and we see this diversity, equity, inclusion phenomenon where they want to divide the groups, pit the groups against each other, and this is the result of that.
We're not educating students.
Our education system has collapsed a long time ago, and we've been warning about that.
What we're producing is political activists to push a far-left radical agenda.
Well, and they're pretty successful at it.
You know, what do you make of these endowments?
Harvard, what, I read $37 plus billion dollars in endowment money, and yet they're trying to raise money for the mental health of the kids that signed on to this insanity that they were blaming Israel and Israel only, and now they're having mental health issues as a result of it, and they want donations.
Why doesn't Harvard tap into that little endowment fund of theirs, and why don't they pay for it?
Absolutely.
I mean, why do the taxpayers have to be responsible, particularly for private universities?
Why do we have to fund things like that?
And when you look at the public monies going into the university system, we have to question whether the investment is really worth it at this point.
I mean, if our students aren't being educated and we see employers moving away from four-year degree programs because they realize the quality of students that are being produced, well, why do we keep funding this monstrosity of a higher education system?
Academia exists to pursue truth.
It exists for open debate, free speech.
And yet these are all things that the university system has moved against.
They now target special groups like conservatives.
They target Jews.
They target anyone who dissents from a particular political narrative, yet they still want our tax dollars.
And I think a lot of parents are reconsidering where they're sending their children to these colleges.
And I'm glad that the donors have finally stepped up.
They should have stepped up long ago when we started to see the anti-American sentiment.
But it's nice to see the donors start to cut back their donations because that will get the attention of the university leadership.
It will get the attention of the Board of Trustees.
And it will force a change in behavior of what we're witnessing on these college campuses.
Yeah, it's really, really bad.
You know, when they had this day of jihad, and maybe I'm being petty here in terms of semantics, that's what Hamas called for.
They wanted a day of jihad.
And I know you remember that.
The former Hamas leader called for it and said for Muslims and others all around the world to protest out there in support of, quote, Palestine.
And this goes to the issue of aid money going to the Palestinian people, humanitarian aid, as Joe Biden calls it.
But they're not going to get a penny of that money.
That money's going to go straight in the pocket of Hamas because Hamas is the elect, they're the elected leaders of Gaza.
And so, I mean, it's just a waste of money from my perspective.
And then you see the day of jihad, and then all of a sudden the media decides to call it a day of rage.
Who decided that they didn't want to use the actual terms that were called for by the former Hamas leader?
Why did they change the name of that?
Or is that just me being peculiar and picky?
Well, you're 100% spot on.
And listen, I mean, the reality is that nobody has done more damage and harm to Palestinians than Hamas.
We have to be honest.
Hamas, Palestine and Gaza has received tens of billions in aid over the course of the last decade.
They're right on the Mediterranean.
With all that money, they could have built out an infrastructure, but instead they built tunnels.
They built munitions.
They built weaponry to attack innocent people, men, women, and children.
And I want to remind the audience that 32 Americans were killed in these attacks.
And yet you have the media that's sitting there trying to provide cover from Hamas.
Listen, this isn't hard.
It shouldn't be hard to muster up a condemnation of a group that killed over 1,400 innocent women, children, and babies.
That's not a difficult thing to do, yet they twist themselves into a pretzel trying to defend it, trying to justify it.
It is astonishing.
I never thought I would see that in the United States.
I didn't think I'd see it either, but we're seeing it.
Anyway, we appreciate your time, Professor Nicholas Giordano, Campus Reform Higher Education Fellow, Professor of Political Science at Suffolk Community College.
I think I'd rather my kids get educated by guys like you than these ivory towers of elitism that are beyond woke at this point.
They're now just corrupt.
And, you know, their sensibilities have been offended because Wall Street firms are like, we'd like to know who believes in this radicalism so we don't hire them.
And all of a sudden, that has put them in a state of panic.
All of a sudden, I guess after they graduate, then they want to become rich capitalists.
Appreciate you being with us.
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Ray, Long Island, New York, will stay in Long Island.
What's going on, Ray?
How are you?
Hi, Sean.
We watch your show.
My husband and I watch it almost every night.
And I think.
Thank you.
Thank you.
I just heard Mr. Giordano speak, and I appreciate his words.
And the comments of your other guests have been very informative.
I am a Jewish-American woman.
My parents came to the United States.
My grandparents fled Russia for grums, and I learned all about the Holocaust.
I grew up in Philadelphia.
I went to University of Pennsylvania, I'm ashamed to say, which was an excellent school back then.
And I went to Quaker school as well.
I was raised to learn about religions of other people's cultures.
And I live in Long Island now.
I remain Jewish, of course, and American first.
I've been to Israel many times.
Years ago, I worked in a children's house on the kibbutz, and I listened to what the teachers, Israeli teachers told the three-year-olds to care about our neighbors in Palestine.
Israel has given so much money to Palestine to build gardens and schools, and they did nothing with it.
And now they built up Israel.
It's a beautiful country with wonderful people who I see how terribly they've been murdered.
Beautiful young people, children.
It's horrifying.
And I'm terrified now.
I never really felt scared before.
But now when I see these mobs of crazy students in the streets talking about death to Jews and death to Israel, I can't believe my ears.
I can't believe my eyes.
I'm afraid to go out.
I'm afraid to go to my synagogue or the walls.
And it's terrifying.
It certainly is terrifying.
I totally completely agree with you.
You know, just like the UN comment I started the show with today, which is just repulsive.
You know, this idea it's important to recognize the attacks by Hamas did not happen in a vacuum.
The Palestinian people have been subjected to 56 years of suffocating occupation.
The lack of moral clarity in this instance is it takes your breath away.
But I'll say this.
I know this about Prime Minister Netanyahu, and I know this about Israel.
They will fight, and they will defend their country, and I predict they will win.
So stay strong.
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So, Linda, you were a little bit on the other side of this issue involving Bud Light than I was.
And it wasn't that I supported Anheuser-Busch and Bud Light.
I thought what they did getting into the political arena, and I was very clear and consistent about this from day one, was stupid.
There was no reason for them to dive into the political culture wars.
And when they did so, there was genuine anger, angst by many people.
And I support their right to do what they want to do.
I've never participated in any boycott, any call to cancel people.
As a matter of fact, I've called to have people not get fired, like Bill Maher and Joy Reed over at MSDNC when she was in trouble.
I had one NBC executive said, if I didn't say what I said when I said it, she probably would have gotten fired.
She did write me a nice note, by the way.
I should have saved it, but I didn't.
But with all that, you know, put aside, I just, I don't support boycotts.
I don't support cancellations.
I don't support cancel culture.
I don't support calling for firings.
If you don't like a show, don't watch it.
If you don't like to hear a show, don't listen to it.
That's why we work hard to do a great show every day.
So from the very beginning, if you remember, and we could pull the tape if people want.
Maybe I'll do that for TV tonight when Dana White is on.
But where was my major concern when this all came up?
Because Budweiser and Heiser Busch, Bud Light was the number one selling beer in the country.
What was my number one fear when all of this started to hit the fan?
I mean, you talked about the employees and how they were just sort of caught in the middle.
They didn't do anything wrong.
It was some dopey, dumb, smartass, probably Ivy League educated idiot in the marketing department that thought it would be a good idea to wade into The cultural wars in this country, and they had no reason to.
You know, people like Bud Light.
They like Anheuser-Busch.
They like Clydesdale.
They also liked it, it was always viewed as a very pro-American, pro-Americana, you know, iconic, you know, beer that Americans were proud to support.
And we also were supporting American jobs and no corporations change over time.
So I don't know who owns what, where, whatever, but you know what I mean.
And I just, but the reality is that there were a lot of jobs, especially in St. Louis and around the country, that I said at the time, if this continues, once we saw the enormity of the backlash, that those jobs, high-paying career jobs for truckers, for people that work in the factories, the people that load the trucks, they're going to be gone.
And I said, and I don't know where they're going to get hired after this.
And, you know, then after that point, I think Medello, isn't Modello, I think it's produced in Mexico, isn't it?
I'm pretty sure.
It is.
Okay, it became the number one beer.
I just instinctively want America to be the number one company in everything.
And it had a rich history in Americana.
So everything that I feared as the anger of people, frankly, justifiable.
I couldn't believe Budweiser Anheuser-Busch was that dumb at the time.
I thought was justified.
And I'm like, you know, why don't you just come out, admit you're wrong, and move on?
Like, I didn't really see a good way out for them.
So when they partnered, and I heard about this, and then I talked to Dana White, he's probably one of the few people that have saltier language on earth than you do.
I think he drops more F-bombs than you do, which is an impossibility.
That's impressive.
I don't know anything about him.
Today is the first exposure I've had to this person.
So, you know, I'm learning.
I can't believe over all the years I've talked about mixed martial arts, you know nothing about mixed martial arts.
I can't believe that.
I don't.
Yeah, I don't.
Nothing.
Nothing.
Well, my sensei, he's got a really dense punch, and I have to stand there and I extend my arms, and he's pounding them to, you know, for calcification purposes, or I'm standing there and I'm bracing for a punch to my gut.
He always drops me on like the fourth or fifth shot.
I'll just drop.
Yeah, I drop at the mere thought of him doing it to me.
I'm like, you know what?
I'm good, Glenn.
Thank you.
We don't believe in hitting people that are defensive.
You can say, oh, girl, that's fine.
I'm not offended by that at all.
So I think this sends a really huge message.
Because when you take on Dana White and you partner with Dana White, you're getting Dana White.
And Dana White is a kick-ass, no holds barred, in your face.
This is where I stand.
You're never going to change me.
Leave me the hell alone.
I'm going to do it my way.
And I don't give a hoot what anybody else thinks.
And that's what I kind of love about the guy.
Remember, during COVID, he didn't want the UFC to shut down.
I do remember that.
That was actually my first exposure to him when I was looking into the segment for today.
And we were booking this, you know, with this announcement.
I started doing research on him and I was like, oh, that's right.
I was like, he was one of the few people that actually stood up against the madness of the COVID shutdowns.
Now, I have no relationship with Anheuser-Busch.
None.
I don't know anybody that works there.
I know people that have routes.
I know people in St. Louis that have worked there.
However, and they all tell me it's a good company to work for.
So my worst fears were realized.
And the truckers started losing accounts and losing money.
I know the company tried to compensate in ways and make up for it.
They just, you know, mumbled and bumbled their way, you know, through the controversy rather than dealing with it head-on, which is what I think they should have done.
And I think finally, with this partnership with Dana, it sounds to me like it's finally sunk in, that they just got way outside of their lane, and that they should never have, you know, started swimming in the cultural waters.
And this is my hope.
My hope is that the people that for very legitimate reasons said, the hell with you, I'm not supporting this.
you know, decided that they didn't want to drink Bud Light anymore.
With Dana's announcement to me, I think they're trying to send a signal.
We hear you loud and clear.
We're never doing that again.
That's my interpretation of it.
Well, I think they also did a really good job.
But the last thing.
The last point, what's in my head?
And my hope is that people give them one more chance.
I'm not saying two, one.
And that maybe those jobs can be returned because those were high-paying career jobs for people.
And they, I guarantee you, have been suffering as a result of this.
That bothers me the most.
Yeah, I mean, you know, when it happened, the first thing that they did was they got rid of the yo-yo who did it.
So, you know, and I was saying this before, and I mean it with humbly, you know, these corporations are very big.
There's a lot of people in the middle who have a lot of personal agendas and they implement them on a daily basis.
And the DEI, you know, diversity, equity, inclusion crap, and that's what I call it.
It's not speaking for the Hannity show.
You know, when you stop judging people based upon their own personal abilities, regardless of their gender, how they identify, the race, you know, all these different things, if you're just like, hey, is so-and-so good at this job?
We should hire them for it.
You know, I can't, I don't know when we lost that.
And so when we start to bring people in, they're like, hey, let's put this person as an ambassador, not because the audience will be able to relate to it, not because the audience knows them as somebody who loves the brand, but just because they check a box on the DEI wall of, you know, madness, it's so wrong.
And it's not in keeping with what's called the Americana brand.
It's been a certain brand for a very long time and it's worked for a long time.
So they got rid of it.
They said, this person does not speak for the company.
And now they're saying very loudly, hey, this is how we want to be identified.
This is who we are.
Since we need to be so specific about who we are, we're going to pick somebody who literally speaks for what we consider to be our brand.
And now we want to like, you know, we want to welcome you back because they're going to have a hard time.
I mean, they have bars all over America that we don't all.
I mean, it's ridiculous.
The kegs are being rolled out and thrown out into the rivers.
And we know people that John Rich doesn't serve it at his bar in Nashville.
Exactly.
I mean, they just, it was like they didn't even care about the loss.
They were like, we will write it off.
We don't care.
We don't want you in-house.
We don't.
Listen, it was a big deal.
Remember, Kid Rock was, what was he shooting the cans in the backyard or whatever?
Yeah, and then he got caught in a bad thing.
And then he got caught drinking it because he liked the taste of the beer.
And it's tough.
I get it.
You know, it's very difficult.
But it'll be interesting.
I really, I have no, I don't really have, I have nothing to gain here.
I have no relationship with Anheuser-Busch.
However, if this is their way to kind of say, we get it, and it resulted in people getting their jobs back, career jobs, people that have mortgages to pay, college tuition to pay, rent to pay, car payments to make.
If it helps them get back on their feet and get their jobs back, then to me, I think it's worth they get another chance.
Now, I don't really drink that much beer anymore.
That's, you know, me, I've been on this crazy diet for six months now.
So, you know, I've been trying to get as fit as I possibly can and as strong as I possibly can.
But I still drink beer when I drink beer, it's light beer.
But I just kind of have been drinking Coors like, but I'm willing to go back and give them a chance.
That's my opinion.
And I'll tell you who I'm doing it for.
I'm not doing it because I'm friends with Dana.
I'm not doing it because of Anheuser-Busch.
It seems like they're making a very loud statement here.
They know what they're getting with Dana White.
That's as loud a statement as you can get.
And I'm doing it because my hope is that the working men and women that got that unfortunately paid the price for this stupidity can get their jobs back.
That's the only reason I'm just humbly asking people to maybe consider them.
And you know what, Sean?
Like you always say, we don't do boycotts.
We don't think that people should be silenced or be told, you know, what to do.
So we're victims of boycotts.
Exactly.
So, but what I think we are in support of are bycotts.
So go out, buy your brand, buy your heart, buy what, you know, if you want to give them a second chance and you want to say, hey, they're aligning themselves with somebody who is, you know, an America first, pro-American, you know.
Oh, my God.
This guy represents everything that's kick-ass about the American spirit.
And God help us if we ever needed something positive, it is right now.
And if we can get back to some of those ideals and we start to see the American people come out and support things are buy American, made in America, you know, a beer that employs Americans and puts them back on the road, maybe that's what we need to do.
So here's my prediction.
I told this to Dana yesterday.
I said, here's my prediction.
There's going to be people say, oh, Dana's selling out.
Dana's selling out.
No, first of all, he doesn't need any more money.
He just doesn't.
And number two, and I can name them the companies, the other beer companies that wanted to partner with Dana and the UFC because there were a lot of them.
And the fact that he made this decision based on the other values that he looked at.
In other words, he didn't take a narrow view of Anheuser-Busch.
He looked at, okay, their support of Folds of Honor, their support historically for police and the military, et cetera, et cetera, and all these other great things that they have done.
And he's putting it in context and perspective.
And he said, you know what?
I'm willing to take this chance because I believe in this brand and I believe it can be brought back.
And I kind of, you know, I applaud him for taking the chance, knowing he's going to get the crap kicked out of them.
Yeah, he's not selling out.
He's stepping up.
He's saying, let's support an American brand.
We got rid of the poison inside of the company.
They're gone.
They can no longer do the things that they were doing that corporate didn't know anything about.
They hired somebody.
They had an agenda.
They got rid of them.
We're moving on.
We're going back to who we are.
We're paying much closer attention.
Everybody's got, you know, they're focused.
They're laser focused on getting the brand back.
So let's help them do that.
Let's give them a handout, you know, a step up.
Here's your opportunity.
You get one more shot.
This is the land of opportunity, right?
Okay.
Let's see what you do with it.
You screw it up again.
We can't help you.
And that's all there is to it.
And they paid a heavy price for it.
But unfortunately, the people that paid the heaviest price, I don't really care about Anheuser-Busch paying the price.
I care about the workers paying the price.
And I said it from day one.
I said, uh-oh, once I saw that this was really sticking.
And, you know, look, I've had moments where real serious, significant boycotts were started against me.
And I was so humbled, you know, that my audience stuck up for me.
And my audience ended it.
You had to protect them.
They started in favor of you and you told them to stop.
But again, we're not a boycott spot.
We're a boycott spot.
So go out, spend your dollars.
You know, it's like anything else.
Well, I'm not even telling people to buy anything.
I'm telling them just maybe think about the other people that work for this company.
Yeah, we're telling them to give them another chance.
And the way they give them another chance is by supporting the brand, also known as buying the product.
So go out and buy it if you want to.
Good answer.
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