Congressman Jeff Van Drew - September 21st, Hour 3
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And, you know, it was clear that Attorney General Garland became really visibly enraged Wednesday because a Republican dared to ask about a January FBI memo that suggested traditionalist Catholic groups could be infiltrated by domestic extremists to oppose abortion or other liberal policies.
It was a simple question.
Congressman Jeff Van Drew from New Jersey said, do you agree that traditional Catholics are violent extremists?
It took, you know, it was like pulling teeth to get them to answer no.
And the evidence suggests that the FBI is targeting them.
Listen.
Attorney General, through the chair, I ask you, do you agree that traditional Catholics are violent extremists?
I have no idea what the traditional means here.
Let me just go to church.
May I answer your question?
Yes.
The idea that someone with my family background would discriminate against any religion is so outrageous.
It's so absurd.
Mr. Attorney General, it was your FBI that did this.
It was your FBI that was sending, and we have the memos, we have the emails.
For sending undercover agents into Catholic churches.
Wow.
Anyway, Congressman Jeff Van Drew joins us.
He's with the 2nd District of New Jersey.
That was an interesting exchange yesterday.
Why did it take so long to get a simple no?
That's the good question, Sean.
I mean, literally, if you asked me that question, I would just say no.
Do I think Roman Catholics are domestic terrorists?
The answer is no.
But you know two things.
One, he's guilty.
Secondly, he thinks a whole lot of himself.
When he tried playing that card, like, how dare you ask me?
I'm above everything.
I am the Attorney General, and I would never do that with my family history.
Look, I understand, you know, I treasure his family history and his religion as much as anybody else's, but we need the same from him.
The real truth is, when Director Ray finally admitted, not because he wanted to, but because we had the evidence that this was happening, he then told us it was only in the Virginia Field Office.
Lo and behold, when we got unredacted emails because we subpoenaed them, then we find out it was in multiple offices throughout the country.
You know, freedom of religion, freedom of speech are two of the most important tenets of our literally country, the belief in our country and what we're doing to keep the United States the great country that it is.
And this man wouldn't admit that his FBI, because it is his FBI, the buck stops with him.
Nobody else.
He's the man in charge of all of it, did this and it was wrong.
If that ever happened and I was in charge, I would say, my God, a terrible thing happened.
It'll never happen again.
And of course, I don't believe that.
You couldn't get those words out of his mouth.
Let's go to the evidence that you've been able to accumulate in the Judiciary Committee that shows that there was a widespread effort by the FBI, to the Department of Justice, to investigate traditional Catholics.
Absolutely.
And we have the emails, internal emails that show they were talking to each other about doing this and how they were going to go.
Well, what exactly were they saying, Congressman?
They were saying they were going through the details that this is something that we should be done, that we need to infiltrate these, quote, traditional Roman Catholic churches.
And by the way, I don't have proof of this, but when I asked Director Wright and I asked him, did you have lists of churches, he got all tongue-tied.
I don't remember if you remember that exchange we had a little back, and he wouldn't, you know, really say he didn't want to talk about it.
But what is the reason?
What fear do they have of traditional Catholics?
I mean, are they forming little terror cells inside Catholic churches or what?
No, of course not.
These are people that are going to church are very faithful.
Some of the churches on occasion celebrate the Mass in Latin, and there's nothing wrong with that.
No, what they're afraid of, they are trying to squash and do everything that they can to stop people who have traditional American values, faith, family, freedom.
They don't like it.
So it's at multiple levels.
It's just like the Facebook files.
And I know, Sean, you're familiar with that.
And we finally got information about that from Zuckerberg because we found that there was actually collusion.
You want to talk about collusion between Facebook and we have emails internally again where even the people who worked for Facebook felt kind of squeamish about it.
We subpoenaed it and then we still didn't get it.
We were going to hold Zuckerberg, our chairman, who's a great man, said, you know what, if he's not going to bring this, we're going to hold him in contempt of Congress, which is a serious issue.
So finally, Zuckerberg had enough and he produced the information.
It showed that Facebook and the White House had a dialogue back and forth about who to censor.
Millions of Americans have been willing to give up their lives and have given up their lives for our freedom of speech.
Anybody, everybody should be able to say what they feel and what they believe.
Their beliefs and their free speech is paramount importance in our country.
They're trying to stop it.
You get punished if you're conservative.
You get punished if you don't believe that the vaccines and COVID story was absolutely true.
You get punished if you say anything that's contrary to what they put out.
And you know what does that sound like?
You know what it sounds like, communism.
Here's my question.
Does America now have equal justice and equal application of our laws?
Or has the Justice Department been politicized and weaponized?
The answer to the beginning of your question is no.
We do not have equal justice.
I am sad.
I truly am.
In my heart, I'm saddened to say that.
I love this country.
I know you do too.
We all do more than anything.
And, you know, I'll tell you a story.
A lady, a constituent, came up to me and said, you know, was really nice and complimented me and said she was praying for me and working and all that.
But then she said, you know, but I want to tell you one thing.
She looked me dead set in the eyes, a good woman, right?
And she said, I don't believe that the individuals who were in charge of so much of our government are honest.
I don't believe they're good.
I don't believe they're telling the truth.
And I looked right back at her, and I am sad to say this.
I said, you are right.
I'm not going to pretend it's otherwise.
It's true.
We see at every level.
Look, and I know you've talked about it a lot.
Look what happened with Hunter Biden.
He's the president's son.
He actually commits a felony.
I mean, gun laws are very serious.
Let me tell you, I'm a gun owner.
If I did that, man, I'd be in jail for 10 years.
But he was basically, in reality, going to be exonerated.
A plea deal like we've never seen before.
I believe in American jurisprudence.
When they happened to get an honest broker, the judge, and looked at that and just basically said, again, in plain English, I can't do this.
This is just wrong.
I mean, there's just no precedent for this.
You know, she even asked the attorneys, were there precedent?
No.
Justice for thee, but not for me.
This is the way third world countries behave.
This is the way socialist countries behave.
It is the way communist countries behave.
It is not the way that the United States of America should behave.
This is very, very serious stuff.
Do you think Merrick Garland and Christopher Ray should be removed?
Do you think Garland should be impeached?
Yes.
You know what?
We've got so much going on, so we're concentrating on the one impeachment inquiry right now.
But I have asked for that, by the way, along with a bunch.
Honestly, if you see what they've done to our country, you look also at Alejandro Mayorkas and what he has done.
He is a cold stone liar.
You know, all these people, they've actually perjured themselves in front of the Judiciary Committee.
If you lie under oath, they were under oath.
For example, I'll just talk about Director A.
He said that there was only one field office.
He knew damn well there was more than one.
I mean, you know, once he started looking into it, even if it was going on around him, which I found hard to believe and he didn't know, certainly we found out that there was more than one field office.
He said it was only one.
We got the information.
We have the proof.
We have the emails.
I mean, he is supposed to protect us, all of them, Garland included, against the bad guys.
We need protection against them.
Yeah.
Anyway, Congressman Jeff Van Drew, we appreciate your time.
Thanks for being there.
Great exchange yesterday.
I hope you keep up the good work.
I will, and I appreciate you.
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How are you, sir?
Hi, Sean.
How are you?
I'm good.
Glad you called.
I just wanted to ask a question or make a point.
I was listening to Congressman Van Drieu yesterday question Merrick Garland, and I'm wondering why he just didn't put this letter that he talks about up on the screen at the letterhead, time-dated, and signature block, and asked Merrick Garland, when did you know about this?
I'm a big believer in audiovisuals.
I don't know if you saw when I interviewed Gavin Newsom, but I kept handing him charts and statistics and cited the sources.
And I said, okay, these are the number of people leaving your state, but these are the number of people moving to states like Florida.
And they gave him a chance to answer.
I think it absolutely helps in the line of questioning.
I think that's a good idea.
I think they should use more audiovisual.
The problem in these hearings is each individual member usually gets five minutes.
You can't even get answers out of these guys.
Yeah, but he could have had that letter up there.
He could have shown, I agree with you.
It was very effective what you did with Gavin Newsom.
But what he could have done was put that letter up there, ask him when he knew about it.
If he said he knew about it after the date on the letter, he could have said, don't you know what your people are doing?
Don't you have policies and procedures so that matters like this against Catholic organizations or any religion don't occur within your department?
Seems to me like that would have been a very simple thing to do.
Unless there is evidence suggesting that some faith-based organization, some radical belief system is taking over, they need to leave churches alone.
We do have something called freedom of religion in this country, and it's outrageous, and we're seeing more and more.
You know, look at, you know, all right, January 6th, that was one riot.
What about the 574 riots in the summer of 2020?
Why didn't we prosecute the people responsible that killed a couple dozen Americans, caused billions of property damage, and injured thousands of cops?
We have a lot of video of all this.
We didn't use all that video.
We didn't hold hearings in Washington.
Tell me, why is that?
You want to take a shot at it?
Yeah, we're back to the two systems of justice is where we are.
Well, there we are.
You get an A-plus.
Appreciate the call.
Thank you.
Bill, Los Angeles, K-E-I-B.
How are you?
Hi, Mr. Henry.
What's going on?
I keep hearing these media people, you may recall that I'm a former reporter, Columbia J School, 86, and I keep hearing these media people, and I'm speaking as a nonpartisan, they falsely claim that Joe Biden is in the clear because he didn't get direct payments, they say, from his son's business associates.
And if you check out two weeks ago, you can Google it.
Your screener just did.
There's a guy named Mark Ridley Thomas, a former county supervisor and city councilman here in Los Angeles, who's on his way to a three and a half year prison sentence, federal pen, because he voted on a contract a few years ago that he knew would benefit his son.
He didn't even get direct payments to himself.
And that's conflict of interest.
And they nailed him on it on his way to prison three and a half years.
And yet, he's a black guy.
So I'm kind of wondering about the FBI.
Maybe they only go after black politicians who do have conflict of interest.
I think they just ought to go after everybody and treat everybody equally.
How about we do that?
Well, apparently that's not on their agenda because this guy, you know, it's a very clear case of a conflict of interest.
He steered a $90 million contract toward a university in exchange for getting his son a phony, his loser son, a phony job title.
And that was enough to get him in prison for almost four years.
So, you know, you look at what Joe Biden and Hunter Biden have been up to, very, very similar parallel, and yet we don't even hear about an investigation of that.
Yeah, well said.
I mean, these are really troubling times.
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Eric in the free state of Florida.
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How are you, sir?
Oh, thank you, Sean.
Thank you for taking my call.
One thing that had me puzzled is why some American billionaires are hell-bent on destroying America.
I mean, after all, it was American capitalism which allowed them to become rich in the first place.
So I was thinking, you know, maybe there might be a method to their madness.
Consider the following.
Let's say a leftist billionaire moves a large chunk of his money to an offshore account somewhere in Switzerland.
And then he exchanges those offshore dollars for Chinese yen.
And then finally, he starts massively funding leftist causes and candidates here in the United States, thereby weakening the dollar.
So the yen in his offshore bank account starts to increase in value.
Maybe when you have Charles Payne or Larry Kudlow on your show in the future, you could ask them if this type of currency manipulation is possible.
Well, it's definitely possible.
You know, you'd be shocked.
I'd love to read stories of successful people.
And if you read the stories of them, they've all got a unique tale to tell.
I don't know if you, you know, the men that built America, it's a great series.
It talks about the Vanderbilts and the Carnegies and the Mellons and all these Henry Ford, all these incredible innovators and pioneers.
And, you know, one of the first things you're going to learn is, and the Rockefellers, you know, right now, most people think of the Rockefellers.
They're thinking of, you know, some type of, you know, charitable, generous, philanthropic, you know, type of people.
But if you look at their business practices, they were hard driving and at times ruthless.
But in the end, there are people that do good with their money and they're generous with their money.
And then there are others that have political agendas.
Yeah, the funds that don't believe in freedom, liberty, capitalism, and want America to be their socialist utopia.
And they're willing to spend a lot of their fortune to do so.
It's a little scary.
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I'd like to take exception with your unequivocal support of Donald Trump.
But let me say this.
If he's the guy that winds up with a name on the ballot, I would vote for him.
I just think there's others out there he's got I don't have a problem with you having a different opinion on who you want to be president or you know the fact that I just I've just been pointing out he did a great job as president And I'm also pointing out that he's being unfairly treated by a corrupt justice system.
I would agree with that.
I think it's in the realm of political persecution.
However.
Well, wait a minute.
So if he's in the realm of political persecution, and if we start that at the Trump-Russia collusion hoax, if we start that with Hillary Clinton getting away with top secret classified information, deleting 33,000 subpoenaed emails, protected by the deep state.
So there's been a lot of it, but you're going to tell me, and I'm just guessing, and correct me if I'm wrong, that even though you think it's all unfair, that he's probably less electable than these other guys.
Is that what you're going to tell me?
Perhaps, but I just think.
I think I'm a little more right than you want to admit.
Just begrudgingly, you can admit it.
Well, no, I'm trying to look at the total picture.
He fell short with COVID.
He brought Scott Atlas into his environment.
He was educated.
He knew his gut told him what Atlas and his cadre of experts had told him in a White House meeting, that what was going on was wrong, but yet he deferred to Pence and to his son-in-law, Jared Kushner, who...
I don't think that's what happened at all on the issue of COVID.
No, I don't.
Well, no, if you read the book that Atlas wrote, Click Upon Our House, it kind of lays that out in that fashion.
Because Pence, his mantra was, don't make waves, go along, get along.
And Trump.
I'm not sure if I go along with that characterization of Mike Pence.
Mike Pence is a pretty strong principle guy.
Now, when the dust settles, if Trump's name is on the ballot, I would vote for him.
There's no doubt about it.
But I think people like Larry Elder, Vivek Ramaswamy are all pretty good candidates.
Nikki Haley, no.
Mike Pence, no.
Some of the others, no.
But, you know.
If any of them are on the top of the ticket, would you vote for them too?
Which one?
Any of the names you mentioned.
Anybody that's running.
If a Republican is going up against Joe or Como, would you vote for them?
If it's a binary choice, any of the others that are out there running against Giggles and Captain Dementia, I'd vote for them.
Giggles or Captain Dementia.
Look, it's going to be very, very interesting to see how it plays out.
Look, not a vote's been cast yet.
There's no caucus yet in Iowa that's taken place.
There's no New Hampshire primary, South Carolina primary.
You know, we'll make our way to Super Tuesday.
These will be somewhat unprecedented times if we're just looking ahead.
And we now have the potential of a presidential candidate, you know, facing four criminal trials.
I don't think the indictments have been fair, warranted, or justified, and I don't think the venues are fair.
However, it's the reality of what we're dealing with.
And it's, you know, but Republicans will have a nominee.
They will be on the ticket.
And regardless of any of the names that the Democrats are putting out, they're all equally disastrous, although Joe might be a cut above all of them.
And Giggles is not far behind him, to quote your term, affectionate term for Kamala Harris, the giggling vice president.
Anyway, appreciate the call, my friend, 800-941-Sean, if you want to be a part of the program.
Scott, Kansas, next, Sean Hannity Show.
Hi.
Sean, this dovetails into what you were talking about a couple of days ago, your conversation about the DOJ corrupt DOJ, and you're lamenting, whining about not being the fair juries in these Trump trials.
Well, I can tell you, you don't think like a leftist, and sometimes I can.
And they're going to fix these juries, so he will be convicted.
There's no question about it.
Each one of these jurors will be hand-picked, lifetime Democrat voters with a history of slander of Donald Trump on social media.
The fix is it.
I don't see how, look, it's possible.
You never know.
But if you ask me, my strong feeling is that I don't think that Donald Trump can get a fair trial in a venue like New York.
New York City, I think, 12% of the people in the city voted for him.
I don't think it's a jury pool, you know, conducive for a fair trial for conservatives.
I don't think they'll get a change of venue if they file such a motion.
I don't think he can get a fair trial in D.C. About 5%, a little over 5% of the population voted for Trump in D.C. Not exactly like there.
And I don't believe so in Fulton County, Georgia either.
I'm not even sure, frankly, anywhere.
They're going to use these convictions as a reason to keep him off the ballots.
And by the time he loses and he files lawsuits, the election will be certified and it's over.
They're not going to look back.
Well, I mean, I don't know what we can do.
I mean, the fact that they waited all of these years to bring charges, if these issues were so pressing, why did they wait, you know, three years to bring the charges, three years to have the trials?
You know, but again, it goes to the heart of what we've spent a lot of time on the last two days, and that's that we don't have, you know, blind justice at America or equal justice under the law or equal application of our laws.
Anyway, I appreciate the call, my friend.
Thank you.
Bob in Texas, the free state of Texas.
What's up, Bob?
How are you?
I'm doing great, Sean.
Thanks for having me on.
What's going on?
Well, I just wanted to make a comment that I think that the statute of limitations that were allowed to expire in Hunter Biden's case really shouldn't play a role because I've seen Joe Biden on TV saying, pay your fair share.
And apparently everybody over $400,000 a year of income is not paying their fair share because that's who he wants to raise taxes on.
Well, he's well over that, apparently.
Well, by the way, that was $400,000 per couple and household.
So that was a big lie because the way he sold it was very different.
And then if you look at Biden's inflation tax, because it's a tax, and his energy tax, because his energy policies have raised the price of everything we buy at every store we go to and the price to heat and cool our homes and the price to fill our cars with gasoline.
So he's raising taxes on everybody.
And you know what?
You ought to be held accountable for just that.
That's how bad his policies have been.
Well, that's exactly right.
Nobody should be surprised by it.
But if he goes on TV and says, pay your fair share, then it shouldn't matter that the statute of limitations has expired.
He should, once he's aware of the $50 million that he failed to pay taxes on, either he or his family, maybe he'll round them all up and say, look, we need to pay our fair share.
Well, I don't think that's going to happen.
Do you?
No.
No.
Anyway, my friend, thank you.
800-941-Sean.
Let's say hi to Bill in Kansas.
Bill, how are you?
Hey, Sean, how are you?
I'm good, sir.
What's going on?
Well, I got in on a little bit of your conversation yesterday with Congressman Donalds, and I'd just like to say I don't necessarily agree with everything those guys are doing, but what he's doing, I think he needs to be turned loose and let them go.
Some of these young guys are willing to go fight, and some of our old guys, not to mention Mitch McConnell and some of those guys, they need to go.
They need to be out.
See, I think the House, if they would stick together and stand on the principle that we've got to rein in reckless spending and control our borders, which are two of the major things they're fighting for in this.
And I think if they can stand together and get a bill and then get into conference with the Senate, I think then all responsibility will then shift to them.
All pressure will shift to them.
And that's where the pressure ought to be because they're the ones more willing to go along, get along with Chuck Schumer and the radical leftists.
And the idea that Mitch McConnell just wants to capitulate and sign on to another reckless Schumer spending bill is insane to me.
And it's certainly not, well, he's talking about the short-term politics of it.
I'm talking about the long-term consequences for our country.
And I agree.
And I agree with that wholeheartedly.
My point being is that we need to have that fight now.
And that's, I think, letting the news media pick them apart because the Democrats, they rule with an R and fist.
And everything they do, they all do as a team, which is not necessarily good.
Just like all this stuff going on with the Biden crime family.
You tell me we ain't got one Democrat or two Democrats somewhere with the wherewithal to stand up and say, if this is true and we need to look at it, then something needs to be done.
Nobody's got the integrity.
None of the Democrats got the integrity to stand up and say anything.
We need to fight now.
So when it gets to the floor, then our side, our guys are already had that fight.
And they're, like you're saying, we're ready to go forward and fight the good fight.
Appreciate the call, Bill.
Thank you.
800-941 Sean.
Back to South Carolina and Candace.
Hey, Candace, how are you?
How are you doing today?
I'm good, ma'am.
Glad you called.
Absolutely.
So I'm a vet myself.
I grew up a poor kid, and I wanted to go to college.
So I joined the National Guard when I was 17.
I had to get my parents to sign.
And it was a rude awakening at that age, I will say, to I went between my junior and senior year of high school, actually.
And while I was there, I was with a ton of other juniors in high school.
So our drill sergeants were babysitting 180, 17-year-old kids.
And not one of us could keep our mouths shut all summer long.
I swear I spent the summer in the front leaning rest position.
And while I was in basic training summer of 2009, there was a government shutdown.
Michael Jackson also died.
But when the shutdown happened, our drill sergeants were just so rattled.
They were so upset.
You know, like we didn't get to know what was going on in our lives or anything.
But like you have 180, 17-year-olds.
You're out here babysitting for a living at this point, and you're not getting paid for it.
Well, let me give you some examples.
2013, 2018, you know, there were approximately 850,000 out of a 2.1 million non-postal federal employees that were furloughed.
2013, most of the 350,000 civilian employees at the Defense Department were summoned back to work within a week.
Furloughed employees are not allowed to work, don't get paychecks, but are guaranteed back pay due to the legislation they passed in January of 2019.
And federal contractors have historically not received back pay.
Now, at the beginning of the 2018-19 shutdown, 380,000 employees furloughed, smaller number than usual since a large number of federal employees, such as Veterans Affairs defense programs, they're already funded.
Another 420,000 employees reported to work, but didn't get a paycheck until the shutdown ended.
So that does happen.
There is an inconvenience.
But yeah, I think that's got to be a part of the deal, and I'd like to see all our military taken care of during this time.
You know, they shouldn't have to be calling the people that are holding their note on their car or their house.
Hey, I need a little extra time because I've just been furloughed by the federal government.
Although I will say, and I know from experience and friends of mine, that it's often the case that they will work with those people under those circumstances.
Anyway, I wish you the best.
I know it's giving a lot of people anxiety.
You know, what are we going to do?
Not fight?
We're just going to allow another $2 trillion to be added to this year's budget debt?
I mean, because that's what Joe Biden gave us this year.
$2 trillion more in debt.
Look, I want to talk about what is your personal security strategy?
What if, God forbid, somebody breaks into your house, wants to bring harm to you or your family or your place of business or even just driving around, whatever it happens to be?
All of us need to factor in our personal safety, all of us.
Now, maybe some of you, maybe you want another non-lethal option short of a firearm.
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This is not any just self-defense tool.
I like it as a non-lethal option.
I like to have both options.
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Anyway, safety matters.
I like choices.
I like options for my personal security strategy.
I think you're going to love the option that is a burner.
Now, look, if you end up taking somebody's life, defending yourself, it has far-reaching consequences.
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Bad for America.
Sean Hannity telling the truth that mainstream media likes to hide.
Sean Hannity.
We're going to wrap things up for today.
I mean, we've had a disastrous day.
Biden now wants to write another check to Ukraine.
On top of that, we now have Joe Biden with the illegal immigrant transportation program that you're paying for.
And 43 destinations straight from your country into a city in America.
Don't worry about the laws of the land.
Just come right in.
You can't make it up.
And cutting the razor wire.
By the way, Texas Governor Greg Abbott will weigh in on that.
Audience show, 9 Eastern.
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