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McCarthy Calling Bluffs? - September 15th, Hour 2
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A lot going on within the Republican caucus.
Apparently the entire caucus got together yesterday and things got pretty heated.
And House Speaker Kevin McCarthy uh, you know, went after uh he's having a battle that's been ongoing with Congressman Matt Gates of Florida and and some Freedom Caucus members, and we're gonna talk to a couple of them in a second.
Um anyway, during this this meeting of the caucus, you know, the issue of whether whether some may put forward a motion to vacate, which would be an attempt to remove McCarthy as speaker, came up.
And you know, McCarthy responded back.
If you want to file a motion to vacate, then file an effing motion.
He said that.
Anyway, also Kevin McCarthy laid out uh addressing the threats from Matt Gates to vacate the seat and uh and then Matt Gates' response to this.
Let me play it both.
Threats don't matter, and sometimes people do those things because of personal things, and that that's all fine.
And I don't walk away from a battle.
I knew changing Washington would not be easy.
I knew people would fight or try to hold leverage for other things.
I'm gonna continue to just to focus on what's the right thing to do for the American people.
And you know what?
If it takes a fight, I'll have a fight.
I'm concerned for the speaker that he seems to be a little rattled and unhinged in a time when we need focus and strong effort.
Uh whether or not McCarthy faces a motion to vacate is within his own hands.
All he has to do is come into compliance with the deal we made in January.
All right, joining us now, House Freedom Caucus members, Congressman Andy Ogles of uh Tennessee and Congressman Tom uh Tiffany, Wisconsin.
Uh welcome both of you to the program.
Uh how are you both doing?
Uh this is Andy from Tennessee.
I'm doing well.
Uh glad to be on here with my buddy uh Tom.
And uh yeah, no, it it's fantastic, and there's a lot of work to be done.
All right, Andy, let's start with uh you know, one of the things I said from the beginning when you guys have a slim majority, I mean this is tough because you got all these disparate groups even within your caucus.
You have only a four-seat majority, and you know, you've got the Freedom Caucus group, which I tend to support the most, not tend to, I support the most, and the Tuesday group and the study group and the Friday, Saturday, Sunday, and holy day group.
I mean, you got all these you know different groups.
You have you do have a moderate part of the caucus.
Uh not an easy job for anybody that's gonna be speaker, frankly.
Uh what do you think of the events as they've been unfolding this week?
Well, you know, I think it's a reflection of just the tension in Washington right now.
I mean, we we've got a country that's under attack from within.
We've got a two tier justice system, we've got a border that's wide open, and so tensions are running high.
And you know, I'm I'm one of the your more conservative members of commerce.
Uh and and so like I there's things that I want to accomplish, like, you know, cutting spending and securing the border and doing all those things that you want to do, right?
Uh and so this I think is a reflection of that.
And there's probably some personality going on between the two of them, but look, you know, uh you know, you talked about the various factions within the Republican Party.
It's affectionately known as the five families.
And what I can tell you, and what the media is not really reporting on is that the five families we're meeting.
We're working on what is it that you need, what is it that you want versus what we want.
And I can tell you from my perspective, if we don't secure that bo border, then I'm not voting for any more funding.
We've got to close our border.
It's a disaster.
I was just down there.
I can tell you all about it, but it's worse than you can imagine.
Well, let me ask you this, and then and then we'll go to Tom in a second here.
Because I completely agree with you.
Here's the problem.
This this idiotic omnibus bill that that Mitch McConnell and others signed on to uh over Christmas is now put these artificial restraints as it relates to spending.
And and I look at, you know, what what you know we we have one half of one we have three branches of government, we have one half of one of them.
Let's put it that way.
And it makes it very, very hard.
And and then, for example, even on the issue of an impeachment inquiry, you know, I count six or so Republicans in your caucus that don't even want the inquiry for crying out loud.
Well, I mean, look, whether you support uh an impeachment or not, it's important that we have the inquiry.
And I'll tell you what, is that you have a two-tier justice system in this country right now.
And look, you can like Donald Trump, you cannot like Donald Trump.
But the way that these woke district attorneys are weaponing their weaponizing their offices to go after a specific individual should frighten you.
It should scare you because if they can do it to him, they can do it to you, Sean.
They can do it to me.
They can do do it to the next person that they don't like.
And that type of politics where you go to jail if you disagree with someone, that didn't work in Rome, it didn't work in the British Empire, and it's not going to work here.
And we have to fight like hell to restore the rule of law in this country, and part of that is going to be securing the border.
But if this came down to a vote for the inquiry, you would have had fellow members voting no.
Well, uh I am cautiously optimistic, and I'm privy to some of the evidence that once the evidence is laid before the House of Representatives, and and so I'm I'm privy to the evidence.
I'm laying it out every night.
There's never been a stronger case that I can lay out.
I I I think the votes will be there.
Uh and and maybe I'm naive.
You know, I I'm the new kid on the block, you know.
But but that being said, is the evidence is there.
We we have a constitutional obligation to do this.
We can get them accountable.
Tom Tiffany, first of all, your take on the intramural squabbling that's going on.
You you know, I take the position that one way or the other, you're either going to succeed or fail as a as a caucus as a team.
And you know, my suggestion to both Kevin and to Matt, and I've said it to them both privately, I'll say it publicly.
I've said it to them publicly too, is that everybody in the caucus, get in a room, lock the door, leave your phones outside, and don't leave until you leave until you have full agreement.
Representative Ogles um used the term personality is exactly right.
I served in the state legislature for ten years in Wisconsin, and boy, we went through some of the most contentious times.
But you set aside the personalities and you pull constant focus on policy, and that's what we're going to do.
The personality stories are going to be out there, but we're gonna uh uh focus on the policy.
Next week we have attorney general Merrick Garland coming before us and the judiciary committee, and we're going to get answers.
And I think what we should do, and I think uh Andy Oldle's kind of inkled at this.
What we should do is if we're going to do, for example, a continuing resolution or something like that, what we need to do is let's give the Democrats and Joe Biden a choice.
Are you going to secure the border, close the border, and keep the government open?
Are you going to close the government and leave the border open?
We need to put that choice before Democrats, because Democrat cities across America, including the city you hail from, that you work from, Sean, they're saying it's a disaster, and it's Democrats that are.
Yeah, by the way, thanks for reminding me what an idiot I am.
I appreciate it on my own show.
Thank you.
But no, you're right.
I mean, it's out of control.
They're talking about $12 billion.
They're taking away soccer fields and ball fields, schools that already were failing are now inundated with uh all these kids of illegal immigrants that but the most of which cannot speak English.
They don't they're not hiring any teachers.
A minimum they're talking about a 15% across the board cut in services in New York, which by the way, they could easily withstand uh because they spend too much, but you're right.
Let me get back to the fundamental though, Tom, if I can, and that is really simply is are you guys gonna uh are you all gonna pull together here?
I mean, I'm I'm a freedom caucus guy.
I'm with you.
However, if you can't get along with the moderates Tuesday group and study group and all these other the five families, as you call it, if you all can't get along and you can't get the job done, that's a problem for everyone moving forward.
Let's look back at this uh that's a speaker vote at the speaker vote.
Three days, what was it, fifteen votes, and um you know, people are like, man, I was getting text messages that geez, you guys look you guys look terrible, you look um uh that you there's no that's just chaos in your caucus.
This will not be pretty through September 30th.
But as you get to deadlines, that's what focuses people's minds.
And we've got a couple weeks to be able to do that.
I'm an optimist.
I think we can get there.
And I think there was some good movement yesterday that went on in regards to we're not going to simply do a for example, a clean continuing resolution.
There has to be something that we get in return for that, something significant, whether it's um fiscal responsibility or let's get back to energy independence or secure the border.
And I am with secure the border.
We've passed the best secure the border bill in this Congress in the history of any Congresses with HR2 that we passed through the House of Representatives a couple months ago.
Let's put that with the CR and give it to the Democrats, and they get to choose.
Are you going to secure the border and keep the government open?
Or are you going to close the government and open the borders?
Unlike a lot of people, I've never been afraid of these government shutdowns.
I've reported on a number of them over the years.
Here's what happens.
The government never fully shuts down.
Our armed services are still protecting us.
Social Security checks will go out, uh, Medicare will be up and running, essential services will continue, and then you'll have a bunch of federal employees that might bitch and whine and moan and groan and complain, uh, but in the end they'll get back pay and they end up with a free vacation by the end of all this.
Isn't that usually how it works?
Oh, yeah, absolutely.
And look, you know, let's let's be honest, when Congress is not in session, they're not, you know, we're not wasting your money.
But that being said, it's important that we in the House of uh representatives hold the line on spending and make sure that as we're fighting, and it's some are gonna say that we're fighting amongst ourselves.
What we're fighting for is the American people for the future of this country.
So John Quincy Adams loved the House of Representatives.
It was the chamber where you argued and you debated.
It was the most raucous chamber, but it was the people's house.
And we have a job to do.
And so I'm willing to fight to do to do and to get to the right thing.
And and like I said, it's gotta be the border.
Border's the issue.
Look, that's a 60 to 70 percent issue, even in a Democrat district right now.
AOC had a press conference earlier today, and the people at her press conference at her town hall or whatever it was were yelling at her to secure the border.
So if that's happening up there, up in the woke New York, right?
We can do this.
We can do what's right for the American people.
And Sean, I was just at the southern border, just south of Tucson, and I went to an area of the border that is literally controlled by the cartel.
And I crossed into Mexico.
I guess technically I'm an illegal, but I crossed into Mexico, and the moment I did that, you had cartel members that came up over the ridge and were watching me and watching what I was doing.
This is unacceptable that you have a part of our border that is in control, control of the Mexican cartel, and they're poisoning our kids, and it pisses me off.
And I'm gonna fight and I'm gonna fight, and I and I'm never gonna back down on that issue.
We have to secure this border.
All right, quick break, we'll come right back more with Congressman Andy Ogles, Tennessee, Congressman Tom Tiffany, Wisconsin, as the deadline for the The budget September 30th quickly approaches 15 days from now.
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All right, we continue now with House Freedom Caucus members, Congressman Andy Ogles of Tennessee, Congressman Tom Tiffany of Wisconsin.
Do you both believe, and Andy, I guess I'll ask you first, do you both believe that this is going to end up with uh, you know, intramural, you know, battle and motions to vacate, or do you think you can bypass that?
I'm gonna echo Tom Tiffany.
You know, uh, we were in a meeting yesterday.
We're having we're moving in good directions.
There's there's a consensus.
It's it's not complete, it's not perfect, but we're moving the right direction.
We agree that we have to do certain things for the country.
And look, I'm I'm gonna predict we're going to have a a government shutdown.
I think it's going to be short-lived, but we can't have a continuing resolution that's quote unquote clean, because if it's clean, then we're we're funding all the woke bull crap that the Democrats and Biden have put on burden this country with.
And again, my district, the people of Tennessee, quite frankly, most of the country are tired of that nonsense.
And by the way, you'll be battling your your fellow Republicans in the Senate because they're just pathetic, to be honest.
And they, you know, that they've already said they want a clean CR.
Uh Gates also brought up the issue of votes on term limits, a balanced budget, and wanting the appropriations bills to be done and to be done individually.
Those are all positions I support.
When do these votes have to take place?
Tom.
Yeah, those votes need to uh need to happen here real soon.
I don't know that we are able to get them done now with uh two weeks left in September.
And I think the frustration with uh many people in just in particular Freedom Caucus, as well as other conservatives that are not in HFC, is that why wasn't there more work done in August?
Well, that's behind us now.
We need to get that work done.
If they want to do a continuing resolution, Speaker McCarthy's gonna have to offer leadership now, and he's going to have to make sure something significant is included with that.
Secure the border would be the best thing.
HR2.
Let's get that done.
And if it's going to take uh continuing resolution for a couple weeks into October, I'm willing to do that as long as we get something in exchange for it.
And then let's get those individual spending bills done.
Let's get to work, let's get it done.
As you said, Sean.
Get in the room, lock the door, leave the phones out, and get the work done on the people of the United States.
I would support you if I was a member of Congress, which I would never do in my life because I couldn't get elected dog catcher.
Andy, we'll give you the last word.
Well, I just, you know, thank you for being a voice for conservatism.
And look, you know, uh, we just tell your constituents.
The next enlightened like Tom Tiffany said, the next one tell Mike I don't have constituents, thank God.
I have listeners and viewers, but go ahead.
Well, but it it it might be a little bit messy, but just know that the outcome that we're striving for is I don't by the way, I don't mind messy.
I like messy.
Have a big fight and fight for principles we believe in.
That's what you guys were hired to do.
Well, always liken the U.S. economy to the Titanic.
It's it's on a course and there's a collision ahead.
And if we don't correct course, we are headed toward it toward a catastrophic collision.
We don't have a choice here.
It's going to be messy, but what we get is going to be better than what we have.
Let me tell you something.
The best the best way to get re-elected is to keep the promises you made the last time.
I don't think that's complicated.
Anyway, we appreciate you both.
We may get updates from you in the next you know couple of weeks as this is unfolding.
Hopefully the Republican caucus can unite on some very simple, basic, fundamental conservative principles, promises that they made when they were running.
Anyway, Congressman Ogles, thank you.
Congressman Tiffany, thank you.
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Well, we did find out how Joe Biden feels.
Not that we're ever going to hear from Joe Biden himself.
By the way, I assume they called a lid on everything for now, and Joe's probably comfortably, you know, laying on the beach in Delaware as we speak.
I have no idea.
It's not even worth hearing from him anyway, because you can't understand him anymore.
He mumbles and bumbles, you know, his way through every every speech or press conference.
Uh but Jen Saki is saying that Joe Biden is heartbroken.
I think on the politics of this, uh, you know, millions of Americans have dealt with family members who haven't dealt with drug addiction, who've dealt with alcohol addiction, who have dealt with a range of addiction.
My bet is right now this is a heartbroken president in the White House who is worried about his son.
I wonder if if they had the same compassion when the sons and the daughter of Donald Trump were being investigated over a hoax that was perpetuated in large part by her network.
Wonder if there's any compassion.
I wonder if it goes both ways.
But I think I think the gold star of the week has to go to this idiot, Congressman Dan Goldman.
Hunter Biden is getting the worst of a two-tiered system of justice.
You gotta be kidding me.
The only reason he got charged is because plan A to totally exonerate him blew up because of IRS whistleblowers, and plan B blew up uh because you had a judge in Delaware that identified on page 15 buried deep in the gun diversion provision portion of the plea agreement, uh that they offered full immunity.
Uh and and plan C is oh, we actually have to enforce the law now.
Anyway, but he says Hunter's getting the worst of a two-tiered justice system.
They are they are I've never heard of this uh charge being brought.
I understand it is occasionally brought here and there.
Um, but in the discretion, you know, I was in the Southern District of New York.
Um we we looked for felons who were in possession of guns.
Uh we did not look for people who were subject to uh substance abuse for 11 days in the possession of a gun.
Um so this is unusual, and when you hear of the two tiered justice system, I would argue that uh Hunter Biden is getting worse of the worst of it because his last name is Biden, not the other way around.
And the only reason he had eleven days is because his girlfriend at the time is, I believe, wasn't it Haley Biden at the time, uh Hunter's ex-wife?
I so it was eleven days, but why was it eleven days?
Because the girlfriend of Hunter Biden dumped it uh in a d put it in a dumpster somewhere, thank God somebody responsible found it and gave it to the police.
We don't know if there was any secret service involvement in this.
I'd like to think not, uh, protecting Hunter, uh, but obviously his girlfriend at the time did not think he was safe to have that gun.
It's the only reason it was eleven days.
We see pictures all over the laptop from hell of Hunter, you know, doing drugs, hanging with hookers and and having the gun in his hand.
Not exactly a pretty sight or a safe site.
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All right, Sam in Pittsburgh, apparently a leftist, wants to talk to us.
What's up, Sam the leftist?
How are you?
Good, Sean.
Actually, uh, I was actually on your show not too long ago, a little while ago.
Do you remember I was on your show on uh Fox?
I don't remember.
What's your last name?
Uh Perez.
What was it about?
What was the topic?
Uh we spoke we tried to speak about uh gun control at that time, but I just think it's interesting now that you are on the side of of prosecuting people uh for the gun regulations that we have.
Are you how would we how would we uh implement that uh around the whole country so that we start arresting uh we we already have these laws on the books.
Uh I ever every gun that I've purchased I've had a background check done on.
And by the way, uh for example, in New York they have such stringent laws.
I actually fire uh hired a former law enforcement uh individual who's well versed on gun laws in New York to make sure that every weapon I have is New York state compliant.
And by the way, they have some of the most stringent com uh, you know, laws on the books regarding, you know, what you what is legal and what's not legal, but I follow the law to the letter.
Can I ask you a question, Sean?
I'm listening.
What's your question?
Yeah, I just was wondering, I I know that uh during uh after every uh mass shooting, um people say, well, he got it legally, but the problem is that the Republicans have made the definition of legally having a heartbeat, and so anybody can get a gun.
And if you're gonna That's not true.
Convicted felons are not allowed to have firearms in this country.
That's not true.
If you're gonna start prosecuting people who have You didn't okay, so you want you so you're just angry that the law is being enforced.
Did you know this judge in a similar case in Delaware put somebody in jail for five years for a similar charge?
I think it's fine.
I think it's fine.
You think it's fine.
So do you think Hunter is above the law?
Should Hunter be given special treatment?
No, I don't think he should.
Do you think it should have taken five years for David Weiss investigating Hunter Biden and tens of millions of dollars uh and and let the statute of limitations run out on massive amount of taxes that he owed the government?
You think that should have happened?
I don't know why Trump didn't uh in the I'm not talking about Trump.
We're talking about Hunter.
I asked You think Hunter should receive what he should receive preferential treatment.
Let me ask you this.
If Sean Hannity violates the gun laws, what do you think is gonna happen to Sean Hannity?
Sh Sean, I don't What do you think's gonna happen to Sean Hannity?
Probably nothing because you're a millionaire.
Probably nothing.
Probably nothing because you're a millionaire, just like nothing's happened at you are delusional.
Wait a second.
I take great care to pay every penny in taxes I owe to comply with every gun law that I am required to uh uh to obey.
You know, there was a point in New York where, you know, I could only have seven bullets in my magazine, and I took out the the the three bullets and one in the chamber.
So I complied with the law, didn't agree with it, but it's not my place to break the law.
I'm not talking about that.
Um I don't think you're gonna see people on the right defending Hunter Biden.
Uh uh actually I don't think Excuse me.
I don't want people that are mentally ill or a history of mental illness or a history of felonies being able to get firearms or violent crimes.
No, I don't want that.
And when people call this show, Sammy, uh, and they ask me about firearms, and they'll say, Hannity, uh, thinking about getting a weapon.
What do you think?
An AR or a shotgun or you know, what do you think?
Uh, you know what I always tell them?
What do you know what I tell people when they call me and ask me a question like that?
I don't know.
I don't think it matters.
I'll no, it does matter.
Because I tell them as a responsible gun owner, I say, Well, uh, I would look at the weapon that you're willing to spend the time and get trained in the safe use of.
I don't think, you know, I I I'm huge on gun safety.
Because when I learned how to shoot, my mother had a revolver next to her bed, and it was a loaded revolver, and I was a curious kid, and she didn't want a curious kid not to know the danger that was in the house.
And she took me to a gun range, and one of her colleagues that worked at at the prison where she worked at had this gun range in town, and I went down there, and uh the guy went through gun safety, spent an hour, gun safety, pointed down range, never pointed at an individual how to deal with a gun that jams.
On and on and on.
And then at the end of the hour, the guy says, All right, I want you to tell me everything that I just told you.
And I I told him every answer was perfect on my score.
And then the guy said, Great.
When you come back next week, if you remember it, uh I'll let you fire the weapon.
And then at a young age, I learned the safety and use and respect that everybody should have for firearms.
I've been carrying my entire adult life.
I've had carry permits in New York.
I've had him in Rhode Island, California, Alabama, and Georgia.
I've carried a weapon my entire adult life, and I'm extremely careful.
It's not a toy.
Can I speak now, Sean?
Go right ahead.
I don't understand why you're changing the subject, talking about your mom and her revolver.
Because we've got images of your of your friend Hunter on videotape, naked, holding a gun with his finger on the trigger for crying out loud, uh, knowing he's using crack and knowing that he's with hookers.
You think that's a good picture?
You think that's a safe use of a firearm?
Are you out of your mind?
Sean, did you Do you think that is a those pictures that we've all seen?
Do you think that is the proper safe use of a firearm?
He should be arrested.
Did you hear me or did you not?
Finally, I got you there.
So he's not being treated differently, is he?
I don't know why, but probably he's a millionaire.
But I'm just saying he should be arrested.
He's a millionaire and he got charged.
You said, Well, Hannity, you're a millionaire.
You're not gonna get charged.
Money has nothing to do with it if you either obey the laws or you don't.
Sean, you know he's gonna get off, right?
He might.
He's got Abby Lowell as an attorney, and I know Lab Abby Lowell to be a brilliant attorney.
He's one of the best out there.
Sean, you know who who don't get off, right?
You know the people who don't get off, right?
The people like the people who were arrested in January 1st, they didn't get off, even though Trump said he was gonna get them out.
Those people don't get off.
Well, why didn't we arrest the people in the summer of 2020 that were rioting and throwing bricks and rocks and bottles and Molotov cocktails at cops and burning down police precincts and businesses?
Why didn't we arrest all those people?
Why didn't we have hearings on that?
They have been arrests.
There's been sixteen hundred arrests for that summer from the Yeah, and how many people actually were how when did where were the hearings?
Where were the prosecutions?
I don't know.
You had five hundred and seventy-four riots, billions of dollars in property damage.
You know, we had a couple of dozen dead Americans that summer.
And no, they didn't pay the same attention to the 574 riots the way they did January 6th because they couldn't politicize that.
Did you did you report on any of those cases?
I reported on all of them.
Any of the people that were I reported on all of them as as the rest of the media.
I'd love these shots that we put up a fake news CNN and MSDNC.
They have nothing but a city burning in the background.
But mostly peaceful protests tonight.
I'm like, yeah, is that why those cities on fire?
You said you reported on those.
Can you name me some of the people that would are that were arrested during that summer?
You said I am telling you we never use the video tape evidence that we had an instance after instance of people looting and burning down stores and causing billions of property damage, the images of people pelting cops with bricks,
rocks, bottles, and Molotov cocktails, the people trying to set up blaze, you know, courthouses in Portland, uh, the people in the in the Chop Chaz, Summer of Love, Spaghetti Potlug Dinner Zone, you know, and and people got killed there.
So you just don't want to hear the truth.
And here's the reason why.
Because you're just a biased democratic hack.
That's all you are.
I'm just looking for equal justice.
You want unequal justice, and you don't like it that Hunter got charged, do you?
I want to end this conversation in a good way.
Okay.
I think that anybody that breaks the law should be arrested.
Whether it's the right or the left.
Do you agree?
I think people that break the law need to be treated equally.
I believe in equal justice and equal application of our laws.
Wait, wait, wait.
They break the law, they should be arrested.
If they broke the law, they should be arrested, correct?
Well, I don't know.
I think I'm leaning towards no bail laws, and I think I'm leaning towards uh, you know, defunding the police now.
You've you've convinced me that's gonna that's worked out so well.
Well, I mean, the right is the one that's cl that's looking to defund the FBI.
That's last I checked David.
No, they're not.
That's not no, they're not.
They're looking to defund some of the upper echelon within the Department of Justice and reconfigure it so it's not corrupt.
It's not it's not politicized or weaponized.
That's a very different scenario.
What you're saying is not true.
If you break the law, then it's proven that you broke the law.
Should you go to jail, yes or no?
It's she if it's proven you broke the law, yeah, you should go to jail.
Okay, so if you if you broke the law and it's proven that you that you broke the law, you should go to jail, right?
If you're so what you're what you're saying is, well, when Donald Trump's convicted, I don't think Donald Trump's getting a fair trial.
And that goes into the question of whether or not the our justice system is politicized and weaponized.
And under a weaponized uh Department of Justice, I don't believe Donald Trump could get a fair trial in New York in DC or in Fulton County, Georgia.
Now, I think he'll have a much better chance of winning on appeal.
The problem is his trials will take place in the election year, and then the appeals where he has a much better chance of winning will take place post-election.
How convenient.
Why didn't they bring the charges two years ago?
It was so outrageous.
I gotta run.
Appreciate the call.
800-941 Shauna's on number if you want to be a part of the program.
I know, probably a waste of my time, right, Linda.
You're shaking your head.
Uh anyway.
I give me a lot of credit.
You did good there.
I I did good.
Wow, I got a gold star and everything.
I feel so good.
Thank you for your vote of confidence.
All right, when we come back, Sean Davis with the Federalist, co-founder, CEO, also Kaylee McGee White, uh, who is the opinion page editor at the Washington Examiner.
Is Joe Biden going to be the candidate for the Democratic Party, or are the dominoes now starting to fall against that?
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