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So we look at this, you know, Donald Trump uh uh it wasn't really an arraignment, uh, goes to Georgia yesterday.
How nice of Joe Biden.
Apparently, and maybe maybe Joe Biden has set a precedent for when, you know, this entire bribery money laundering uh these scandal allegations uh come to fruition.
Maybe this is a preview of coming attractions involving him.
Uh you know, I played it in the last hour.
Victor Schoken, the prosecutor that fired, uh got fired.
Uh isn't Biden given giving money in exchange for my firing alone a case enough?
Yeah, he actually went further and said this was about bribery.
An exact point about the Biden crime family.
He says he confirms that Joe Biden took bribes, saying that uh Joe and Hunter accused them of corruption.
They took large money, bribes from Barisma, and were behind his firing.
I don't want to deal in unproven facts, but my personal conviction is that yes.
He said this to Brian Kilmate.
This was the case.
They were being bribed.
Well, billion dollars, and this now we know came after the official policy in the Obama administration uh was that they have made enough progress in Ukraine as it relates to corruption that they it was their official policy to give them the billion dollars, and that's that should have been the main reason that Joe was in Ukraine speaking to the Parliament.
But of course, that was five days uh uh earlier, the phone call from Dubai with Hunter and Barisma executives, they desperately needed DC help.
We know what the help was.
Joining us now to analyze the impact of this on the 2024 campaign and much more is former Speaker of the House, Newt Gingrich, author of a book everybody should read, uh March to the Majority, which by the way, is a roadmap for Republicans to get back power.
How are you, sir?
I'm doing great, and uh, but I have to confess I'm deeply troubled by the kind of things that are going on.
It's just to me it's astonishing uh that we could be living through this and that we could have a former and potentially future President of the United States being treated this way by a clearly corrupt and partisan district attorney whose indictment I think is so phony and so full of flaws that it's it's just embarrassing for America.
So the question is, I mean, I don't think in any of these venues they're gonna be particularly friendly to Donald Trump.
Twelve percent of New York City, the population of New York City voted for Trump.
A little over five percent in DC.
Uh Fulton County is a little better, but that comes in at a low 24%.
Um, and even though in a RICO statue, you have to prove criminal intent that they knew that it was unlawful and that they purposely set out to break the law.
Um, I would argue, Mr. Speaker, and I I would assume that uh you know I interviewed President Trump a lot, and I would assume you would had spoken to him during the time.
I would bet any amount of money I had that he'd pass a lie detector test this day that he still believes that he won Georgia.
Right.
And then look, the the whole problem with this thing is, and you see it both with use of a RICO statue, which remember, was designed for the mafia and for drug dealers.
I mean, to apply that to a president of the United States is just so insultingly stupid and arrogant.
And then frankly, uh Jack Smith using the 1870 South Carolina Ku Klux Klan Act.
I mean, these are people who and I and this is my one criticism of lawyers who go on these shows and try to explain it.
This isn't about the rule of law.
This is about the rule of power.
This is like Ortega in Nicaragua locking up the Catholic bishop.
Uh It has nothing to do with the law.
They just make up crimes and then they say you're guilty.
It's like uh, you know, Putin's major political rival just said an additional nineteen year sentence while he was in prison.
Uh they brought her back up and said, Oh, well, we're going to retry you.
The seven-year sentence isn't enough, right?
And another nineteen.
He told a reporter, I basically have a uh death sentence.
The only question is whether it's my death or Putin's.
But he said, I'll never get out of here while Putin's alive.
Well, that's kind of the Biden attitude.
These people working for Biden, uh, who are people who work for Obama, uh, they believe they're above the law.
They believe they can break the law, and they believe the rest of us are too dumb to realize that this has nothing to do with the rule of law and everything to do with politics.
So, you know, if if what what is your advice now to Donald Trump and and how do you see this playing out?
And you know, he keeps calling this election interference.
Well, we we did have the FBI in two presidential elections, in my view, put the the cinder blocks on the scale of an election.
One by exonerating Hillary for the very same thing they raided Mar-a-Lago about, and that's top secret classified documents.
Uh two, the other big issue is you know, whether or not Donald Trump may have erased surveillance tapes or wanted to r erase them but didn't.
Um and and meanwhile she did erase 33,000 subpoenaed emails, nothing happened to her.
Joe Biden had top secret classified documents in four separate locations.
He didn't get raided.
Uh his special counsel doesn't seem in a rush to do anything.
Uh then we have the Biden sweetheart deal by a friend of Bo Biden who was investigating for four plus years, allowing the statute of limitations to run out.
Uh, and then of course big tech being talked to weekly by the FBI warning them of a possible misinformation campaign against against uh uh against them, uh that probably or likely would be about Joe or Hunter Biden, but they knew that the laptop was very real and they wouldn't confirm it to Twitter and Facebook when asked directly.
It sounds like they they had they wanted a certain outcome in these races.
Well, of course they did.
I mean, the 2000 election, 2020 election is the most rigged election in American history, uh, which is different than saying it was stolen on election day, but you you can't take things like the four hundred and twenty million dollars Zuckerberg put into uh in the selective turnout,
or the fact that all of the big uh social media companies you collectively suppressed the New York Post, or the fact that fifty-one uh intelligence officers signed a total lie, which was then used by Biden uh in the last debate with Trump.
Uh so I mean you just you go through this again and again, and what you find out is this is a very sick, very corrupt system.
Trump is the first person to have the guts to take it head on, and he's frankly being attacked for defending all of us from what is a potential tyranny.
You know, but you understand uh a political reality here.
I know I know his base is very, very strong.
And you know, now we're gonna head into 2024, and he's facing the possibility of four separate trials in the middle of a primary season.
I mean, if the special counsel has his way, the Washington, D.C. case would start on January second.
If Fannie Willis from Fulton County has her way, well, that case would start on March 4th, the day before Super Tuesday.
Um and then we have two other cases that he's got to deal with.
Now, do you foresee uh uh a scheduling conflict for somebody running for president?
Because I do, and and how do you handle that?
Yeah, I don't.
I I think uh and I've said this publicly the the morning President Trump walks into a courtroom under duress, he will have fifteen or twenty million surrogate campaigners who will come forward and volunteer to campaign for him.
Uh and it will be people don't understand it.
He's not a candidate.
He is the leader of a national movement.
He's fully as much as Nelson Mandela was, fully fully as much as any other figure in history who has been locked up for being the leader of a movement that sought a different outcome than the establishment was.
But you know, but you know liberals hearing this and the mob in the media hearing this.
Uh Newt Gingrich just compared Donald Trump to Nelson Mandela.
Blah blah blah.
You'll get criticized for that.
I don't care.
I know I know I've known you long enough to know you don't care.
That that I know.
Well, uh I but look, I was one of the people who voted to impose sanctions on South Africa to end apartheid and helped it pass the Congress against the Reagan administration.
Uh I was honored to be able to host Nelson Mandela in the Capitol.
Uh he's in a remarkable figure.
I'm not saying that Trump is like Nelson and Dolly.
I'm saying that the regime in South Africa putting Nelson Mandela in prison for two decades is very similar to what Biden wants to do.
The regime in uh Nicaragua putting the Catholic bishop in prison is very much like what Biden wants to do.
The Chinese dictatorship putting a 90-year-old cardinal in prison is very much like what Biden wants to do.
Let's be honest.
Biden wants as a to have take a dictatorial position of putting in jail the leading opponent who has millions and millions of supporters.
Now I'm perfectly happy to have some nutcake on the left say, well, Gingrich is is describing this inaccurately.
Tell me the inaccuracy.
Because they, the very person who's going to criticize me, wants to put Donald Trump in jail.
How does this play out with independent voters who decide every election?
Well, I think look, I think that this is a two-part campaign.
Uh almost classically going back to the politics of a generation ago.
Uh first Trump has to become the nominee.
If Trump does become the nominee, and everything indicates he probably will, then he has to wage a campaign in which it is not just it's not a referendum on Trump, uh, it is a choice.
And if he can make clear that the choices between the affordable job creating uh world of Donald Trump and the unaffordable uh destructive world of Joe Biden, uh he might do amazingly well.
I'm I I think it's possible.
If they campaign on the right issues next year, for example, parental choice.
Uh parents ought to have the right to decide where their children go to school.
Parents ought to know what's happening to their child in that school.
Um, versus the teacher's union ought to own your child, and the teachers' union ought to be t able to tell your child in the third grade whether or not they ought to change genders.
Now I think in that debate, Trump wins by an amazing margin, including among women.
Because bo most women are very uncomfortable with that idea.
If the debate on abortion uh is uh handled correctly by Trump and the Republicans, that is, we are we think 15 weeks is a reasonable limit to abortion.
We think life of the mother, um uh incest, uh uh uh and rape reasonable exemptions versus a party committed to killing your baby on the last day, or in some cases, committed to killing your baby up to thirty days after it's born.
I think we win that fight.
But we have to have the guts to make it.
We can't back off from it.
So I'm I think we can win the general election with Trump or with DeSantis or with Ramaswamy or or Nikki Haley.
I mean I'm I'm I'm an I'm very optimistic that the country's not crazy.
And you know, the the there's gonna be two choices.
It's either gonna be Joe Biden or if he literally can't get there.
I think it's gonna be Kamala Harris.
And I don't think this country will elect Kamala Harris president.
It's it's pretty interesting.
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All right, we continue now with former Speaker of the House, Newt Gingrich.
So what if there is maybe two of the four trials, and let's say Donald Trump is convicted?
You know, play out that scenario for me.
Well, then he has to campaign from jail.
How do you campaign from jail?
I think I think at that point the country goes crazy.
I mean, I mean, first of all, how how does the Secret Service handle its legal obligation to protect a former president if he's put in jail?
I don't know.
Is he surrounded in jail by armed Secret Service agents?
That's what I'm saying.
I mean, this whole thing is insane.
I mean, what what you know?
Maybe there's a reason why this is uh a former president has never been indicted in history, and a a a leading rival has never been uh charged with with felonies like this, four separate charges, well, ninety-one total, but the yesterday Ramaswamy had exactly the right point.
He said, Look, the American people get to judge Donald J. Trump, not a corrupt Justice Department, not a rigged jury, not a rigged uh prosecutor.
And I think most Americans will agree that in the end, the the prospect of putting a former president in prison is crazy.
Don't you think when you look at the the map in terms of it looks like the trials will be held in an election year and where I believe Donald Trump would have a much more uh much more fair chance of winning would be in the appeals process.
Uh that would happen post-election.
That doesn't seem fair either.
No, I no, I I don't know.
I I think first of all, I think we're a lot further from trials than these people would like us to believe.
Um second, I think that uh an appeal process to the Supreme Court would would occur pretty quickly, not slowly.
Uh but I also think that the more the country understands who the players are, the more the country understands that the Supreme Court has already repudiated Jack Smith unanimously for having tried to rig a jury trial against the Republican governor of Virginia.
Uh I mean, he was picked by the attorney general because he's basically like a rabbit dog.
Uh and he will do anything to win, and he is a total hardline left winger.
Uh exactly the opposite of what you'd like in a prosecutor who'd like to have as a balanced, reasonable and responsible person.
So I I don't I I said to you the other day, um I don't think we're in a political environment.
I think we're in the historic environment.
History is bigger than we are, and I don't know how this is all going to work out.
Uh I mean, I think this is uh one of the most remarkable, it's probably the most unstable period uh since the eighteen fifties, which led up to a civil war.
That's pretty frightening, Mr. Speaker.
Really is.
And people and people and by the way, what's happening to the country economically, our place in the world is is chilling also.
These are rough times.
Uh former Speaker of the House, New Gingrich, his book, by the way, in bookstores across the country, Amazon.com.
We put it up on Hannity.com.
It's called March to the Majority, sir.
It's always a pleasure.
Have a great weekend.
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Um let me this this is getting very interesting.
And I I keep laying out the timeline here because it's fresh in my mind.
You have Maureen Dowd writing that that column in the New York Times is eviscerating Joe Biden, being heartless and soulless by not recognizing his seventh granddaughter for over four years.
It results in Joe saying, Oh, Hunter gave me permission now to recognize her.
Okay, so I'll now finally recognize her.
Okay.
Nobody believes that either.
Um then it led to the New York Times, Washington Post, Politico now beginning to dig a dip their toe into this this issue in involving the Joe Biden, what is his bribery and money laundering uh allegation scandals.
And uh now you've got Van Jones over at fake news CNN uh saying what I what I've been telling you is now happening.
You'll know it's real when you see real investigative work into what we have been reporting, you know, almost single-handedly on television and radio.
The hard work of of John Solomon played a big big part in all of this, and that is Democrats are really concerned about Joe Biden.
Nobody wants to go on TV and say it.
Well, he said it.
Listen.
Well, you know, that's that's a tricky one.
Uh I think people are concerned about Joe Biden.
Uh, they really are.
I mean, Democrats are, you know, they they they talk behind their hand.
Uh, nobody wants to get on TV and say it because we all like to be able to go to you know uh barbecues and house parties, but uh people are concerned.
Uh and uh I I do think that um uh anybody but Trump going up against someone like Biden, uh given some of his his uh his challenges recently, uh probably uh might have a good shot and could make that age an issue.
The problem is when you put a Biden up against a Trump, Trump has so many other issues, and he's not that much younger, uh, that it becomes a little bit of a wash, and then people kind of just go back to their respective corners.
Okay.
Now, if this issue involving Victor Schoken, uh doing an interview with my colleague uh Brian Kilmead, uh talking about bribery, listen.
I do not want to uh deal in on proven facts.
This is just my first personal conviction is that yes, this was the case.
Remember, the fact that uh Joe Biden gave away one billion dollars in uh U.S. uh money in exchange for my dismissal, my firing.
Isn't that alone a case of corruption?
Yes, that would be a case of corruption.
So as they get all giddy, our old Fred Nicole Wallace, remember she ran the the McCain campaign.
She worked for George W. Bush.
I don't know what's happened to her politically, but you know, I I always got along with her.
You know, listen to how she fights back her laugh as she talks about Trump headed to jail where three people have died.
Really?
Imagine if I said this and it was Joe Biden.
He will surrender himself for processing at an overcrowded jail with a reputation for violence and neglect.
A jail that is accustomed to holding defendants facing charges up to and including violent crimes or stabbings are frequent.
Actually, three people have lost their lives over the last month.
That jail is where the disgraced ex-president of these United States is heading right now.
What's gonna happen when if if this Biden bribery and money laundering scandal results in Joe Biden having to go through the same thing?
Wonder if they're gonna be as giddy over at MSDNC at that moment.
Anyway, let's get to our busy phones.
Uh Chad in Texas.
Chad, how are you?
Glad you called, sir.
Sean, I'm good.
Thanks for asking.
Hope you're doing well.
Happy Friday to you.
And the short word here is my top talking point is about the mugshot herd round the world.
That's the short version of it.
And I hope there's time here to get this in.
First and foremost, Sean, and this also goes to your staff.
You're it's not a one-man show that you have there.
So everything that you do day in and day out is especially now in these troubling times, even though you say every day, let not your heart be troubled.
Well, even for individuals like myself and you and Faith and all of that, it is a little bit trouble these days.
So you're the shiny light and a and a beacon of voice to uh to keep us sane and to know that you know at the end, uh hopefully everything is gonna be okay.
So the muckshot heard round the world and obviously and then seen around the world, another one of those things that broke the internet.
So I saw this in different ways and I narrowed it down to two.
Number one, obviously it's no surprise uh that this is happening.
These events unfolding, unprecedented unprecedented events not ever happened before in our country, and it's happening to one specific man that they still cannot get over, that they cannot get rid of.
And he is in the way of all of us.
We all know that.
He doesn't have to do this.
He didn't have to do it in a twenty sixteen.
Ever since June fifteenth, twenty sixteen coming down that escalator, he has been the target of the left more than the most vicious criminals in our country's history.
He didn't have to do in a twenty twenty obviously did his reelection campaign.
He's doing it now when he doesn't have to have to.
The other side of it is it's very troubling.
And my son just turned fifteen years old last week and tried to explain it to him, of course.
I don't always talk politics or whatever.
It's very difficult to explain why, you know, this is happening, or even e anyone that doesn't even follow politics but may side to the right, why is this happening?
And there's there's other things that I can say here at constraints of time.
I cannot go into it.
But it's a very sad of where this country is and where it's going.
And we have one day coming up here in the next couple of weeks.
September the eleventh is where we could put all of this aside and come together as one.
That is the only day.
We can't even do that at Christmas sometimes.
But for us Americans here, especially the the ones I don't want to do left, right, or center, but no right from wrong, can see it for what it is.
Once September the twelfth happens, and then boom, it's back to square one.
It is back to hearing all of these indictments and arrest and and this Well, I I I think a lot of people have already forgotten about nine eleven.
I think one of them is Joe Biden.
I mean, this deal that his Justice Department wants to cut with the Al Qaeda five, including Khalid Sheikh Mohammed, is unfathomable to me.
And I you know, it's I I just can't believe the stupidity of it all.
Um yeah, nine eleven did bring Americans together, uh like we hadn't seen in a long time, and we could probably use a little bit more of that for sure.
Uh, but it's in this political environment, I don't see it.
I just don't.
And I think that, you know, we now are living through really dangerous times for the Republic.
I've if our Department of Justice is weaponized and politicized, then the same with our FBI, weaponized and politicized.
You know, that scares me.
And by the way, I'm not looking for unfair justice.
I want I want Lady Justice to be blind.
But it's not blind in this case.
In this case, it's get this guy at all costs.
That's what this is.
And it's obvious to anybody with eyes to see.
Right.
When when is the last time anything has been said about, you know, well, they pretty much forgotten about the cocaine found in the White House.
I mean, that's never happened before in our country.
All of the you know, all of this stuff is going at him to defer from the guy the I shouldn't say the guy that is a president from the president that is in in in office right now and everything that has conspired of his of his dealings over with Hunter and all of that is to uh attack continually attack,
throw it on Trump, so where hopefully the stuff about the Biden family syndicate that you do an incredible job in your staff as well and your team do an incredible job of bring it to light, but that other side of the aisle, they don't want that.
It is everything to shy away from it to continue to pile on to Donald Trump, and so yeah, as you said it best, these are very, very troubling times, and it it's it it's hard to see that you know, some line at the end of the tunnel, but you know, let get us to 2024 and as Donald Trump always says, let's see what happens.
Well we really don't have any other choice, do we?
Um, if you're asking me if I feel particularly confident, I don't.
Uh I'm very concerned about the country, the the direction of the country.
And you know, this guy is uh Van Jones is right.
You know, he's just saying what very few Democrats will say publicly.
But however, the dam might break, the dominoes may begin to fall, and I may be proven right.
Uh, we'll find out.
Anyway, Chad, thank you.
Have a great weekend.
Appreciate the call.
Uh David in Vegas, he's on K Don Radio.
What's up, uh David?
How are you?
Happy Friday.
Good, John.
How are you doing, man?
Happy Friday.
Uh, all good.
What's going on?
You know, I I call because I just can't believe that it hasn't it hasn't surfaced up to the top yet that we really need to be in a position.
We're our we are in a position where we can impeach Merrick Garland.
I mean, he he testified in Congress, not just a yes or no answer, but he vehemently testified that Weiss had more power than a special counsel.
He didn't need to be a special counsel because he had more power than a special counsel, and now he's assigned him a special counsel.
So there are a couple of benefits he gets out of appointing David Weiss as the special counsel.
And one of them is now David Weiss, who was accused by IRS whistleblowers that took contemporaneous notes when David Weiss was complaining he didn't have the power to go into other jurisdictions in his investigation into Hunter and that he allowed the statute of limitations to run out on many of these these charges,
and he never charged him with a fairer crime, and the initial plan was to just give him a pass on all of it anyway, and and only because the whistleblowers came out that he come up with a sweetheart plea agreement.
Well, that also takes off the table any ability he would have to go before Congress and answer that question, he'd say, Well, this is all part of an ongoing investigation.
I'm not allowed to comment at this time.
And that's that that provides both of them cover.
Because I believe the whistleblowers.
I think they did tell the truth.
And I do believe that Weiss did say he didn't have the authority, and that would mean that Garland didn't tell the truth.
That would mean that David Weiss didn't tell the truth.
And you know what?
There's just too much credibility behind these whistleblowers to make me believe otherwise.
And you know, we've there were four other people in that room.
We got to hear from them, and Republicans are making efforts to hear from them too.
So stay tuned.
I think that's an unfolding story.
Uh appreciate the call, David.
Have a good weekend.
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Chris, Washington State.
What's up, Chris?
How are you?
I'm well, Sean.
Thanks.
Honor to speak with you.
Honor's all mine.
What's going on?
Well, I'm I don't terribly concerned about these January 6th people that have been jailed and persecuted, prosecuted.
Um look, I I think this is going to be a stain on our republic and our constitution that we're going to look back, you know, five, ten, whatever years, and and shake our heads that this is that this has gone on.
And you know, I'd I would like to see everyone that was on that debate stage hold their right hand up and say, you know, and and and pledge to pardon these people.
I think here's the problem with what you're saying.
And I have a very different problem with with this whole issue.
I uh I don't like the dual standard of justice.
You're gonna treat what happened on January 6th, but those people that did enter the Capitol unlawfully, they broke the law.
You know, now do I think some of them have been punished excessively and made an example of, etc.
Yeah, I believe that.
Selective prosecution, but you know, we have all this video footage of 574 riots in the summer of 2020, and we we've not we've not prioritized looking at the people responsible for killing a couple of dozen dead Americans,
uh killing uh a couple of of uh dozen Americans, they're dead now, and also causing billions in property damage, and and those that injured you know over two thousand cops hauling, you know, bricks and rocks and Molotov cocktails at at cops that got injured.
Uh why didn't we use all the video evidence and footage there to go after them?
Where where's the summer of 2024?
I'm sorry, 2020 riot committee in Washington.
We didn't have one.
And there's been very little to zero follow-up in spite of all the evidence, video evidence that we have available to us.
That bothers me.
I'll give you the last word.
Oh, I agree.
I agree completely.
You know, and and and also, you know, I agree, I I like what Newt Gingrich had to say, you know, how they're coming after Trump, and and then always remember Donald says they're you know when they're coming after me, they're coming after you, and they are and they already are.
When you look at what's going on with these these these jailed J6 folks, and it's not gonna stop there if if if things don't change and the DOJ's not, you know, we we the weaponization of the DOJ is frightening.
It's one of the most uh egregious things I've seen as a as a patriotic um uh well it's interesting you bring this up because former FBI agent Nicole Parker and uh Eric Eggers with the Government Accountability Institute.
We're gonna take a deeper dive into the Joe Biden, uh, what is now a bribery and money laundering allegations scandal that seems to be getting more real by the hour.
But of course, the media is trying to ignore that.
Anyway, appreciate the call.
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