Why Is The Border So Important? - July 6th, Hour 3
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Hey, welcome back to the Shot Hidden Show.
It's Jordan Secular from the ACLJ.
We've been hosted a broadcast that takes a shot at his team for assisting us with that and our team as well.
You know, what issue?
We talk so much about the border.
We talk about the consequences from having a poorest border.
You look in the news, you see the deaths from fitol, uh, celebrity deaths from fitness, celebrity family members' deaths from fitness.
You hear about trafficking of humans, and we talk about all these sub-issues of the problem of having a porous border.
And then but sometimes we kind of just talk about them and move on.
And we kind of say, this is why we need to do X and Y. But we don't realize that law enforcement is having to deal with all these situations and overwhelmed in many cases.
Whether it's the drug crisis in America, we know is overwhelming, the crime crisis in America, we know that's overwhelming.
And then issues that honestly we've been working on for decades at the ACLJ, people don't always love.
Sometimes they want to turn off because they just don't want to hear about it, is the fact that child trafficking is not just an international issue that happens in third world countries.
It's happening right on your in your neighborhood in America, all across the country.
Yeah, I mean, there's a big movie out right now that's dealing with that.
Uh but we're fortunate to have a good friend of ours in the studio with us.
Father Peter Sparrow is a Greek orthodox priest here in uh Nashville, Tennessee.
But he also works with the Tennessee Bureau of Investigation on the issue of child and sex trafficking and also our senior counsel, Andy Economer, who also has served as an assistant district attorney and a state's attorney general and a U.S. attorney and has dealt with this issue.
Thanks to both of you for being here.
Father Peter, I wanted to start with you because one of the things we wanted to do on this segment of the broadcast is bring this home about how sear when we talk about sex trafficking, human trafficking, what are we and child trafficking?
What are we talking about?
What kind of numbers are we talking about?
What kind of situation is this?
Well, the numbers are uh we can't really quantify all the numbers because there's so many different uh unreported cases.
So, but I will give you uh some I I talked to our special agent, uh assistant special agent in charge uh last night, and I'm gonna just give you some statistics here real quick.
Um the TBI in uh 2018 um and 2019 uh had 72 hotline calls in the entire year.
Uh today is the hundred and eighty-seventh day of the year, and we've had six hundred and forty-nine tips already in Leeds, which is three and a half three and a half tips per day average.
Uh so we're These are coming in from citizens.
They're coming in from all different uh places.
There's hotlines, there's uh law enforcement.
Um we we do uh sting operations at at uh TBI.
Uh they've done seven sting operations this year.
Um they've had sixteen arrests directly from TBI, and then they work to assist other law enforcement agencies too to um also get uh uh additional uh arrests done.
But uh sex trafficking uh and it is one aspect of trafficking, and I think that's the one that gets the most uh bandwidth, especially uh with TBI is focused on sex trafficking and especially with juveniles too.
So when we say juveniles, you're talking about young kids.
I'm talking from uh birth to uh adulthood.
So uh I went to a conference in uh in Greece in February, which was an international uh human trafficking conference, and some of the the international issues for trafficking is not only sex trafficking, it's not only labor, but they have organ trafficking, which is a frightening,
um frightening situation where humans are being uh picked, uh selected, taken, uh their organs are being removed from them unwillingly many times, or some even sell their organs for a better life and then realize that they're being trafficked after they even sell their organs.
Uh surrogate mothers, yeah.
Uh they so not only prostitution, but uh they might take a woman and say, now you're going to bear children for uh specific type, uh a blue-eyed uh blonde child, and they they purchase uh children.
Let me ask you this, Andy.
You've been a prosecutor for a long time, and we talked about this on our broadcast on Seculo often, that this situation on trafficking affects every community.
If you're near an expressway, you're you're you're witnessing this.
Well, you are, Jay, and that's exactly right.
I was an indis assistant district attorney in the Brunswick uh judicial circuit in Florida, and that was uh the circuit through which I-95 flows.
I-95 is a major artery in the United States.
It goes from Florida all the way to Maine, and trafficking occurs on that, and I've prosecuted trafficking cases, and it involves minors, as Father Peter said, we're talking about children from birth, literally from birth, uh uh on, who are trafficked and used as human slave traffic.
And I've seen this in raids that we conducted near the mill the Navy base at Kings Bay uh in uh near Jacksonville, in which the uh uh Koreans and people from East Asia and Asia were used basically as sex slaves put in these places and uh isolated there and used by traffickers.
So this is uh a thing that affects every single community.
Father Peter, so much of this was focused, I think incorrectly over the last I'm going back 20 years or so, when it was they'd arrest the the the victim.
And then the prosecution, we prosecute the victim for prostitution or whatever it might be.
And rather than realizing that the individual you're prosecuting is actually the victim here.
Absolutely.
So uh in different uh scenarios where they where they pick up someone for prostitution, they're asking a whole different set of questions and a whole different uh approach to policing as well, instead of just saying uh you you're uh arrested for prostitution, they say, where were you from?
What's what's your background?
They look at the age, they look at all the the the these key questions that they now ask people.
But that's also in the development of the understanding of what human trafficking is as well, because a lot of people, when you speak to them about human trafficking, they think it's putting a bunch of people in a in a truck and carrying them over the border, and they don't realize that it's it's the force fraud and coercion of a person against their will and selling uh a person in what would be considered today, and many people say is the modern day slavery of our country.
A lot of people probably want to know is it cartels?
Is it is that the kind of groups, the same groups that are moving drugs, are these specific to trafficking, or I mean I would imagine that the people involved in this at the at the top are pretty bad bad people.
And big operations.
There are some big operations, um, and that we see that um statistically, and you know, the statistics are kind of all over the place.
So some people will say there's 27 million active traffic in the United States, some will say f up to 40 million.
Um but I mean, say that number again.
Some say 27 million.
27 million worldwide, up to 42 million, I think is kind of the range, and then they say there's between 15 and 17,000 a year in the United States.
But um trafficking has really taken a difference uh or moved to a different way of understanding it because a lot of times people think it was just grabbing a child, throwing them in the back of a truck and then taking them out.
Uh now it's the internet.
So we have all these websites, we have marginalized um uh people, we have people with uh issues of domestic violence, of you know, all kinds of uh mental dysfunctions and are they uh did they become the target of these?
Absolutely, because they go in these chat rooms or they find people that befriend them and say, Hey, I can I understand what you're going through, I can help you.
And then most traffic victims are walking literally out the door on their own will to be with a trafficker, not a big deal.
Andy, you and I did a case for uh uh the state of Georgia that went to the Georgia Supreme Court on uh grooming, where there was a situation where a uh defendant was grooming these young kids, teenage girls, uh, and these teenage girls, as you just said, Father Peter would meet, and yet they hired lawyers that argued a First Amendment challenge to the Georgia statute prohibiting this.
We won the case at the Georgia Supreme Court.
I I will add that.
But they these groups get sophisticated lawyers involved.
Oh, really?
They do.
I mean, Jay, you argued that case before the Supreme Court, and that was a very high-paid lawyer from Texas, I believe, who goes around the country uh defending these kinds of cases and these kinds of criminals.
And I think that the point is that the traffickers are the ones that are the criminals here.
The victims are the people who are the oppressed and who are suppressed and brought into these organizations, but they get very expensive lawyers, they are paid a lot of money to defend them, they invariably lose, I hope, in the appellate courts and in the trial courts, but we have to be vigilant of this happening All over the country.
By the way, and we do that work at the American Center for Law and Justice.
Yeah, absolutely.
I mean I think listen, uh, one of the issues that you have to also realize with this, which is significant, is that internationally there's a move at the United Nations to decriminalize what uh what it means to be a pedophile.
So the idea that uh they're doing it in the name of of sexual liberation of young people.
So instead of they flip that definition.
Instead of focusing it on the adult, uh see it as which is pretty much recognized as 18 or above, or at some places different laws, a couple years in between there.
But they're they're flipping it to say young people have sexual freedom rights.
So if they want to engage, at least if they could consent.
They can't consent to getting an aspirin in ice school.
But I mean, you think about how that would then boost this entire trade.
You Father Peter, you come from a law enforcement background, in addition to being member of the clergy.
When you look, I know that at the TBI, the Tennessee Bureau of Investigation, which is the state investigative agency, this is a big issue.
Is this a national issue now where states are really grappling with the seriousness of this?
Yes, I think more and more it comes more to the forefront of the news.
I think before it was you'd hear about it, but it would kind of get muffled in the news and wasn't really um the education wasn't there and the mechanisms to to actually help weren't there either.
And I think we still have an issue with uh victims coming forward and acknowledging that they're a victim and receiving help because the infrastructure is not as good as it could be, especially on a global scale.
And I heard that uh when I was at that conference overseas too, that they just don't have the mechanisms in place to to be able to receive um the the victims to help them.
We only have a couple minutes here, but I think this is important.
How do you when you got the situation and you're you're working on this?
What is the most important thing in in your view that can be done right now on this issue?
Education, awareness, awareness and education.
Yeah.
So I I had started um just recently a Protect program through TBI, which is prevention response offering traffic trafficking education, collaboration, and training for faith-based organizations.
So it's a free service that we offer through the chaplain division at TBI.
Um that is to help pastors and and faith-based leaders to understand what to look for in their communities, to reach out.
If you're a homeless child, you have a 20% chance of being trafficked.
So if you have someone in your community who is suffering from financial um issues, it's important that you understand that they could uh have a problem.
Andy, from a prosecutorial standpoint, as you've seen it, what's the priority of this issue right now?
The priority of this of the issue is to interdict these people who are the traffickers and prosecute them as if they were burglars, murderers, and armed robbers, and to give that same attention that we give to violent criminals to these people who don't use necessarily the violence that we're used to, but who are as insidious and as destructive to society as a killer.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I I think again it's one of those issues you can't shy away from.
Uh also we have to just be honest about that it's happening.
And and you're working with law enforcement officials to work and to make sure that again, you don't just say, well, this is a scary issue, I don't like thinking about it, and and we're just gonna let it go because we don't want this to infect our communities more than it already has.
Yeah, Father Peter.
I just wanted to add one last thing that I do uh run a foundation that offers educational and uh vocational.
Where can people get information about that?
Uh Restevi.org, A-R-I-S-T-E-V-I.org, and uh we help traffic survivors from a private foundation to to go from a job to a career.
Let's let's let's give that address the website again.
Ristevi.org.
A R-I-S-T-E-V-I.org.
Yeah, very important for you to get involved.
What look, this is an issue we've been involved in at the ACLJ literally uh for many decades.
We helped redraft the laws of the states that were focusing on the wrong that were prosecuting, as I said, the victim.
Uh Father Peter, we appreciate you being here, Andy, as well, as we continue to fight for these issues.
We've got more ahead on the Sean Hannity program to get information about what we do, ACLJ.org is a great way to find out.
You can join the ACLJ also, and any donation you make is not only tax deductible.
We're getting a matching gift at ACLJ.org.
Back with more of the Sean Hannity program in just a few minutes.
Welcome back to the Sean Hannity show.
This is Jordan Secular.
There is a lot of work the ACLJ is doing around the country.
You've heard a lot about it on the show today, some of the national issues, but we're going to update you too on issues that are going on in courts that again are making their way through the courts right now that affect all of us.
You know, we've seen the attack on parental rights all over since really since COVID, the idea that you can't be involved in your child's education, but we've also seen people fighting back and how angry they are at some of the groups who are saying, you know, we want to take action again.
We're going to start impacting the school boards, and they're demonized for speaking out.
Well, we represent a client.
We'll walk you through this when we come back from the next break.
That you just won't believe how outrageous it is what these school boards are doing, these administrators are doing.
We've also seen the attack on just being pro-life.
Now, and again, you can't talk about attack.
You're talking about physical attack.
Physically attacked, and what we have to do, of course, is make sure the government even does their job and arrest the attackers.
I mean, because they want to look the other way.
They don't want to spend attention on that.
They don't want to acknowledge that that's a serious problem that since Dobbs, since the overturning of Roe vs.
Wade, 70% of the violence related to abortion has been against the pro-life community and pro-life pregnancy system.
One of the things we do with the ACLJ and Logan Seculos here too is we not only um do the legal work on it, but we also provide a lot of content on social media and other places for people to know what's going on.
That's right.
We're available wherever you find your content.
That's been a big push for us.
It's not to be behind a paywall, not to be stuck where you can't find us.
We want to make sure our message actually gets out.
It's easy to create an echo chamber, put yourself behind a paywall, and hopefully all your friends say, yay, it's great.
But instead, we decide to put ourselves everywhere except TikTok.
We're available.
So you can find us on for obvious reasons.
So you can find us on all your favorite social media platforms.
You can find us on our website at ACLJ.org, always in the news.
We have a PR department, we have a media department that is out there getting this information out because we know it's important.
But all of that is also funded through the matching challenges and things like we're doing right now here at the ACLJ.
So if you want to join the work of what we're doing, uh standing up for you and your family, go to ACLJ.org.
You make a donation of any amount of money.
It's tax deductible, and we get a matching gift at the ACLJ at ACLJ.org.
Back with more in a moment.
Hey, welcome back to the Sean Hannity show.
This is Jordan Seculo.
Listen, we appreciate too Sean and his team for having us back uh to host the show.
And we always uh enjoy doing it so we can talk about, of course, the issues of the day, what's going on in our our uh in the world in the United States, politically, legally, but also to give you a little bit about what we do too at the American Center for Law and Justice.
You hear us on Sean's broadcast sometimes talking about those issues.
We got a few cases right now that I think there's a spot on of kind of these national debates that we've been having.
Parents taking control back from their school boards and say, you know what, hey, we don't have to let these nuts run at the school board.
We can run for the school board, and we can then set the the uh the uh standards.
We can set the curriculum.
We don't have to allow uh the teachers' unions to run every decision.
And they, of course, they they don't like no, they don't they've demonized these moms who have stood up and I called them all sorts of names, but we have a mom we represent out in Nevada, Clark County, huge school district, obviously, Las Vegas, Vegas.
She has a teenage daughter, she's in an art art class, but in a class, basically acting class, where you write uh kind of monologues to perform.
And they did this exercise where you write a monologue, then everybody puts it into a like a uh, you know, the jar of the hat, it gets shaken around, you pull a random one.
She pulls one that's very sexually explicit.
Profane, actually.
Profane, explosion.
So I mean, there's profanities, there's sexual explicit.
I mean, it's just very so she's uncomfortable with it.
Tells the teacher.
Tells the teacher she's uncomfortable with performing it.
Can I do something else?
No.
You've got to perform it, you have to do this.
She then tells her parents, her mom goes to the school board.
We have the the footage up to us on our website, ACLJ.org, and just tries to read to the school board, which is adults.
This is what you made my daughter read.
And they cut her off two sentences in because she used profanity.
So it was too profane and obscene for the adults at the school board, but like we were talking about the sex trafficking, but not for 15-year-olds.
That's the problem with all of this.
And this is a case of the American Center for Law and Justice.
But let me take you behind the scenes at the ACLJ in a situation like this.
So we handle it illegally, we're in federal court.
But then there is Logan, an entire media operation at the ACLJ to get the message out to encourage parents to stand up and to fight back.
And in that particular case, that's exactly what we did.
Yeah, a lot of times media is what it takes.
Sometimes it's not just going to court.
Obviously, we go to court a lot, but there are some times where all you have to do to win these cases or to win these issues and win hearts and minds of people is to expose it through your media.
And we can do that with the operation we have built here.
We knew that we had to counterbalance it.
We had to balance what we do in the legal side of it.
Obviously, it's incredibly important, but we had to also be able to make an impact.
That's between us and a lot of other organizations who do good work, uh, but they don't have the impact media-wise.
They're not here doing three hours on Sean Anthony.
They're not doing these type of things to make sure their messages get out.
So we do that, whether that is through being on all platforms, whether that's Rumble or YouTube, whether that is on Twitter or now on threads, we are there to make sure that people see this message and it can't be ignored.
And when there's a situation like what's happening, it doesn't matter a thousand people, you know, retweet it and say, This is a lie.
We know that's true.
We know it's true.
And you know what?
Thousands of people, even people who disagree with you, now have seen the message of the ACLJ.
And I don't care if they hate us or they love us, the message gets out there.
You know what's interesting.
You said they tweeted and said this is a lie.
So we put we had our team clipped uh a portion of what uh our clients said at the school board meeting, and as Jordan said, they shut her down.
They said we do not allow profanity and obscenity in our school board meetings, and to which she said, but you allow it in the 15-year-old's classroom, which was the whole point of this.
And people put up when we we send it out, and you know you're gonna get this, like you said, oh, this can't possibly be true.
And we played the video and the audio of what it was.
But we're also, in addition to getting it broadcast, we're also in federal court fighting back on this.
And that's what all of the you've got to have a synergistic uh approach to this to make the kind of impact.
That's why we're so thrilled to be hosting Sean's broadcast.
What happens to these students is just it's uh it's almost it is absurd, but it gets to the point where there's there's a assault battery claim here that we're working on because when the student objected, uh they said, you know, uh when the school tried to rectify it on their own, which they didn't do a very good job of they did a horrible job of making it worse.
The student said, Don't put me in the room with a man to discuss this.
I don't want to talk about this to just by myself, you know, behind closed door with a man.
What did they immediately do?
They put it in with assistant principal as a man.
Then they said, Don't put me alone with the teacher.
Then they put her alone with the teacher who grabbed her and said you're lying.
Yeah, you know, and and then put up then again we put so the these individuals when they stand up.
I I say like this most kids are afraid to stand up.
Most kids wouldn't even tell their parent.
But this is we know is happening.
And the problem is that what the left tries to do is say, no, it's not, it's not really happening.
But if we find these cases and expose this, it's protecting your kids too.
Because these administrators figure out, oh, I can have my career over.
I could go to the city.
Yeah, that actually scares them.
Actually, this could financially ruin me.
Yeah, yeah.
Because I could have an assault and battery charge against me.
Yeah, and that's absolutely necessary.
Because when you need that, again, you need that exposure out there, and yeah, not only could it could it get you in trouble at your job, is it becomes a national news story, and guess what?
It probably ruins your career.
You know what they don't want it on?
John Hannity program.
Right.
Yeah, when millions of people are listening and hearing uh this each and every day, same with our broadcast, that they hear it, they it gets exposed, and then we actually can shine a light on it, not just through a YouTube video, which is excellent, but also you can take them to court.
You know, we have there was another case we had, another student case.
This kid, you know, young kid had a uh an after-school Bible study program for kids.
They gave the kids a cross.
And this kid, this kid had a cross on, and he was he's wearing the cross.
And when wearing the cross, here's what happens.
This is shows you how ridiculous is the teacher said that she takes the cross off him and says that pop you had to steal that cross because these were underprivileged kids.
Couldn't afford it.
You couldn't afford that nice cross.
Ends up being that the after yeah, accuse him of being a thief, after school program gave the crosses to the kid, one of those parents, by the way, in the after school program on the school board, okay.
But what makes it even more interesting when we tie the legal in with the media.
Here's where it works.
So eventually we we do a preservation letter.
We tell the school district, do not get rid of any video tape.
They said he was slinging the cross around with his hand.
That he was creating a disturbance in the school.
So, of course, there's video in all these schools, right?
So we send a preservation letter saying, Don't you destroy that video because we're going to court and we want that video.
Well, they hemmed and honed for m weeks about letting us see the video.
And then the video comes to light, and you know what it shows?
The kid had the cross on the entire time.
Yeah, exactly.
And that's you know that is sort of a pushback that's happening along these schools.
A lot of times they definitely don't want to show you the footage.
That is one of the big things.
You know there is footage.
We know there are cameras in almost every school, but for some reason, they push back his privacy, whatever it is, they'll come with some excuse, but also because they know it most of the time we'll vindicate the student.
Yeah, but they also did that during COVID, where the kids were having to do the schools classes remote, and they were telling the parents we don't want you looking in.
Yeah, don't listen to what we're saying.
No, so we saw that we we've also got a case that this is this is what I think, you know, if you want to contact us, if you ever feel like you've got your rights are being violated, you just go to ACLJ.orgslash help, and I always tell people don't think your case is too small.
Here's an example of another one that is very important uh to fight for because most people won't fight back.
It's just the bottom line truth is they just want to shrug their shoulders and move on.
But when you don't fight back, you lose your rights.
And suddenly over time, if you don't fight back at all, uh courts start looking the other way, people start looking the other way, you kind of also even lose the in the court of public opinion.
This individual, he had a Trump sticker on his personal vehicle.
He's a volunteer at a state park in Washington State.
When he is a volunteer.
When he's working for the state park, he's never been accused of talking about his politics, takes people on tours.
Literally, someone saw his truck and complained, uh, and said, I, you know, I don't like seeing that truck here.
And they told him, you can no longer volunteer here.
You also lost your he had a job working for them when he drove another vehicle that he did not have stickers on because it was on it was a work vehicle.
And so this was because of his personal car, and they banned him from volunteering at the park, fire him from his job for a bumper sticker.
Now, a lot of folks now are too scared to put bumper stickers on.
I always say, I think we have to we have to be we have to prove a point for those of us who tell people, hey, get involved in politics, get involved in these things, we can't be afraid to put the bumper sticker on our car.
You gotta kind of live it and own it.
If you're gonna tell other people to do that, I always do that election year.
You know, we get a couple months out or a couple you know, a month out, we know who our nominee is.
I'm gonna put that nominee on the back of my car.
Because I'm telling a bunch of other people they should be doing that.
But people are afraid now.
I don't have to worry about that in my job.
But people are afraid now, if they put a bumper sticker on their personal vehicle, they could lose their job, they could lose their opportunity just to volunteer and give back to their community.
So we represent him against that's against the state of Washington.
And then I want to talk about this case, which is horrific.
So we had two pro-lifers uh folks, and these are what they're called sidewall counselors, they hand out literature in front of abortion clinics, they don't block access, they don't hinder people, they don't cause problems.
Two guys, older guys, been doing it for decades in Baltimore, Maryland, and they get attacked by a pro-abortion individual who's still on the loose, by the way.
And I'm not talking about just attacked.
I mean put in the hospital, kicked on the ground.
This one of the guys was almost 80 years old.
And first effort we had to do was to put media pressure on, and legal pressure, of course, too, but media pressure also on the police department in Baltimore to get them to get because they got a lot of problems in Baltimore, to get them to look for the individual.
We finally got an all points bulletin release and a video.
Yeah, and that's the work we can do.
You if you submit these requests, you can actually do it.
We've seen the video now, we showcase that video.
Uh, and it what it clearly showed is how brutally violent this guy turns.
Now, one of the things we're still on the search for is that guy.
So what I encourage you to do is go to ACLJ.org.
You can find out all the information.
If you recognize this person in the Baltimore area uh and you're willing to turn him in, we encourage you to do that.
We give you a way to do it, give you the phone number, all the information you need to do.
Because he is uh out on the run.
It has been now for weeks, and uh unfortunately, you obviously are dealing with a pretty pro-choice uh area in Maryland.
Baltimore.
Uh, you know, I don't know how how close, I mean clearly the police are getting involved, but I don't know how prioritized this is.
Not high.
Not high.
Uh, but if you see these guys who've had their faces kicked in, lit I mean literally, literally their faces kicked in, uh, this is a violent, a very violent individual.
This is not a bar fight, there's not a scrap, this is someone with, you know, has fractured their face.
But this is where doing broadcasts like this, doing Sean's broadcast, doing our broadcast secular at noon at uh Eastern time really makes a difference, Jordan, because we can shine a light on this.
I mean, you go back to the case involving the parent.
The kid is 15 years old, doesn't want to read the obscenity and pornography in her classroom.
The teacher makes her do it.
Now you're gonna Make her do it.
She gets discipline for it.
The parent goes to read the same thing at the school board meeting and they say no, it's too obscene and too profane.
And that's where the American Center for Law and Justice, working with programs like Hannity, come in and can change the dynamic for that entire community.
Yeah, and so I always want to encourage people, everybody listening right now.
If you feel like or some your family members feel like your rights have been violated, whether it's your state, your rights at the local level.
I mean, it could be uh community, a city, a school, a state, the federal government.
We do it all at the ACLJ, and none of it's too small.
Like we're mostly talking about people who these people stand up.
These cases make go all the way to the Supreme Court sometimes.
But they don't always have to go there.
In fact, a lot of the times we can get these resolved potentially without even having to go to court.
So even if you're even if you're worried, like I don't know if I want to go to court yet, but you think something's going wrong, or you've been mistreated, and your rights have been violated.
Make sure you contact us at ACLJ.org slash uh ACLJ.org slash help.
It's free.
Uh ACLJ attorney is going to respond and let you know if it's something we need more information about or if we think we can help you or if we can't.
No one's going to be nasty about it.
So don't be afraid to contact us at ACLJ.org slash help.
Nothing's too small.
And remember, it's these individuals who are willing to stand up and protect all of our rights.
And that's what makes a huge difference when people speak up.
Yeah, and it's reviewed.
Like Jordan said, reviewed pretty much immediately by an attorney, usually within a few days, uh, you know, based on the request uh intake, that within a few days, you're not going to have it's like passed off to some call center or some email response farmed out in another country.
This is uh our legal team that gets it immediately and then can decipher whether it's something we need more information, like you said, or to press forward what we need to do, or if it's something that's in our scope.
And it's really easy.
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Because as Jordan said, uh no cases are too small, that you never know uh what we could make and make your story a national story.
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Back with more Hannity in a minute.
Oh, welcome back to the Sean Hannity Show.
This is Jordan Secchio.
We appreciate you joining us today on Sean's show and appreciate Sean letting us uh take the host chairs uh for these three hours with you.
Again, uh just to talk about a little bit about us.
If you've been listening to the broadcast, you say, you know, these guys maybe you've seen us uh Sean's show or you've heard us on Sean's radio show or it in the news, uh, but haven't spent three hours with us before.
We do it, we have hosted Sean's show before, but also we've got our own broadcast so we kind of deep dive into these legal issues and policy issues, and of course, we actually do this work.
So uh while we talk about it and then we do talk about the media, and that's a big part of our job.
Uh our other part of our job, which is that much more important, is actually doing all this work that we talked about throughout the broadcast today.
I mean, every one of the issues we talked about, we're doing work on.
We've got an entire legal team, an entire government affairs team.
We have offices all over the world, including all over the United States.
Uh and so we do work internationally.
We haven't gotten into a lot of that today on the broadcast, but we want you to learn more about who we are at ACLJ and the American Center for Law and Justice.
You do that by going to ACLJ.org.
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Also, thank you to uh Sean's team and our team for putting this great program together.
We appreciate that.
It's always great to h host with our for our friend Sean Hannity.
Let me also say this a lot of these cases you talked about, folks, are real people.
Uh, all these cases involve real people, and that's what we do at the American Center for Law and Justice, standing up for you.
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